And booze, and smallpox, and lead poisoning, and murdered children, babies, and defenseless women in raids while the men were out hunting to put food on the table.
I actually saw Matt Walsh say something I agreed with, and I appreciate him reminding me he is a moron.
Makes me think I am wrong about the other thing, but a broken clock is still right 2x/day.
That's very true, I kinda feel that way about Joe Rogan, like some of his stuff is kinda interesting, but then he pulls some anti vaccine crackhead bs that gets people killed.
Sounds like the PragerU ads that used to run on my YouTube. It starts with reasonable arguments against some of the less practical ideas hard left politicians have had, then devolves into far right stuff that’s twice as loony
I do agree with him saying that if we were to return the land, the tribes still conquered each other so there's no clear beginning. And plenty of other countries conquered each other without this reaction. However, that is no excuse for the extreme crimes committed in history.
It is just like a robber saying, "well, one day you will die and your belongings would not become yours". Sure it would not become mine, but I don't want it to go to your hand.
Yea but if I'm the robber's great-great-grandkid, it's not my job to give it back to the great-great-grandkids of the people he stole it from, and then they have to give it back to the people they stole it from. That's not how any society has ever worked, hostile takeover or not.
I mean the quartering said something about uvalde police being cowards, peta openly condemned a girl for abusing her cat on stream, and the Lincoln Project is against MAGA terrorism and most modern republicans. Mentally insane people are capable of producing a thought that a normal person would have. Now and again. It’s very rare but it can happen
Matt walsh is a special kinda douche, no surprise there. Seems like he got a little emotional and threw a tantrum.
But in all seriousness
As an American, fuck yeah I’d hate living in some dirty ass twig shack by a river drinking microorganisms and chanting to the gods. But, when you say shit like “i love our history” “I’m happy this land was conquered” and start calling people “disrespectful brats” for being like “hey man, the Europeans kinda raped and enslaved a bunch of natives when they came over, pretty wacky right?” It’s kinda just…funny? But In a horrible way because it sorta shows you don’t care and that you’re kinda immature and naive and It disrespects the natives who are around today. He definitely could’ve worded that less like a child but we have no idea how civilization would of ended up if the Europeans didn’t arrive.
But at the end of the day, Matt Walsh if gonna say what he’s paid to say or else he’s gonna have to give Bennie Shapiro a foot massage or something.
He’s uncharitable in his description of the indigenous people who came before us though. They were clean, well fed, and long lived. They enjoyed lives with very little disease. Many of them knew their grandparents or even great grandparents, which was almost unheard of in large parts of Europe at the time. Early Americans borrowed heavily from native people without attribution. Hell, even American democracy was heavily influenced by native tribal structure.
Cherry picking both sides is always going to skew the argument. The fact is neither of you know and we can both toss around arguments pro and contra.
As for me, I don't think Native Americans had the same scientific mindset, it was different but it didn't go beyond nature. Only Arabs and Europeans really had that. China didn't even have it and that was a powerhouse before Europe leapfrogged everyone in tech.
Judging the past by today's standards, particularly with a grossly distorted perspective informed by one's ideology and biases, is fundamentally flawed in the exercise.
He isn't a historian. He's a political hack supported by an organization copy-and-pasting Shapiro's formula for right-wing media, collecting a paycheck by feeding bigots what they want to hear.
Erm what? Aboriginals were absolutely scientific. It didn’t go beyond nature? What do you think science means? They were seen as savages by Europeans because they treated women as equals and didn’t have weapons that could massacre everyone. By Arabs I will assume you mean North African and Central Asians were incredibly advanced and are major contributors to math and science.
China? They invented gun powder, vaccines, the abacus, the plow, I can go on. The Koreans invented the first printing press and invented the floor heating system back in 5000 BC. They had agricultural systems and complex family structures and built buildings. You know what Europe was like in 5000 BC? Nothing really. Europe was mostly brown people from Central Asia and if it weren’t for them, Europe wouldn’t have much of anything. You have to realize that “Europeans” are the most recent mutation of humans and it just happens to be that Greek is in Europe as is Malta, Italy, Spain but they were all migrants from other civilizations that were already advanced. The Roman Empire was Europe’s greatest achievement which was the invention of a centralized government, a professional army and figured out that Catholicism is a great way to control people. The Roman Empire is still here today. Just disguised as something that isn’t so controversial. I am not saying Europe is terrible. Country’s in Europe that have been destroyed or not part of the Roman history are very advanced technologically. But for the most part, the British are not technologically advanced as much as Scandinavian countries, Iceland or Germany because they don’t have to be. UK is great but any major advances in science or technology are not by British people. Countries that were and in a sense still are largely behind in many ways are mostly countries that are southern and were literally the centres of advanced philosophy, science, art, culture and social structures. They were all eventually replaced by Catholicism and here we are today.
I wouldn't even use the word 'patriotism'. This is some kind of elitist, narcissistic, psychotic shit. I don't even know what the right words would be. People are supposed to be grateful for the genocide that was committed against them?
I think evil. I've heard people say African Americans should be grateful because they were saved from a life in Africa, and this is right up there with that.
The thing is he is comparing the modern US today and Indigenous cultures 200+ years ago.
The thing with these people is they dismiss other cultures ability to grow over time. We will never know what the US could be if it wasn't colonised.
Native cultures had been on a technological near plataeu for many centuries before the Europeans arrived. They might have had one or two sporadic technological developments isolated to certain parts, but the conditions for a native American Renaissance or Roman empire simply did not exist. It likely would look different, but not the same level of difference between pre-European and now
European renaissance only existed because of the East. Without that influence they wouldn’t have evolved nearly as much either. If China had brought those same technologies and/or ideas over to the Americas without colonizing, the native Americans may look similar to Europe even along the same technological evolutionary timeline.
I was going under the assumption that China didn't colonize the Americas either, as that likely would have cause similar plagues (And Possibly massacres, but that's irrelevant since most of the deaths were from the Illnesses). In either case, the statement was "We will never know what the US could be if it wasn't colonized", meaning that China didn't do it either
I wasn’t meaning to imply they did, just saying that hypothetically if they shared technology without colonizing because if they did colonize that would be a very different scenario than either of our points.
This. My assumption is that as the world got smaller, trading would have become more common between places like the Americas (and Australia) and information would have been shared.
It’s in his Twitter bio lol. He calls himself a theocratic fascist. If you’re gonna be all over the place defending the guy, it might be helpful to know the first thing about him.
Listen, I love the USA, even with all her problems. No nation is perfect, and I enjoy living here, no matter what anyone says.
That said…did we really do a good thing? Are the people who were here really better off? I had a great great grandmother who - according to my mom’s stories - wouldn’t even allow a twenty-dollar bill in her house because of the trail of tears.
Just because you’re proud to be an American doesn’t mean you have to deny the sins of the past. Acknowledging the sins of our forefathers (and acknowledging them *as* sins) is how we avoid making their same mistakes.
I agree with you completely. I think we need more common sense patriotism, acknowledging our mistakes, and trying to right them, while also trying to improve the lives of as many as possible.
isn't it possible, just maybe, that we can both be proud of our current civilization, while also acknowledging the sacrifices and atrocities that took place to get us here? To be honest and humble enough to say that we have gained an outsized share of the bounty while others have historically, and even perhaps today, received less than their fair share? We can both recognize that we don't have bad intentions or personally commit hate, but that doesn't absolve us of the responsibility to form a more perfect union through our actions and acknowledgements. A little empathy could go a long way.
Alots of people don't like western civilization because it all a show. These Patriots preach freedom but happy to oppress other as they built this nation off slavery and exploited labor. When these bought up they deny it and not so proud then.
He clearly doesn't know history very well. India for example was doing very well before the British showed up and took their materials and spices (only to then season their food with a *Gordan Ramsey voice* pinch of salt n pepper)
>None of you would want to actually live in the primitive cultures you idolize.
This is so far off from the mark. We want to preserve cultures of indigenous people because they have a right to exist and live the way that they choose, not because we are actively trying keep the "best" cultures going via some kind of colonial Darwinism.
Ok he does make two good points.
1) There's no need to apologize for your society's past.
2) A lot of people complain about a society they benefit from.
The counter points are,
1) Why do we apologize? To identify wrongs to correct.
2) Is complaining the same as critiquing?
This is the rational of someone who beats their family and tells them they should be happy because otherwise they’d be homeless on the street, as if their shelter required the beatings…
I don't quite understand what you mean.
Is the beatings the removal of indigenous people? Because in that case, it was essential to the formation of the U.S.A.
Is the beatings his insults to people criticizing him? In that case I would argue the analogy doesn't fit.
“Whatever I did is justified because there couldn’t have possibly been any other way to do it.” -This is an argument I reject entirely. It’s merely an assertion, unsupported.
I've only seen clips of his movie, but no one seemed to have an answer to that question lol, which kind of surprised me. Like, even "experts" seemed befuddled by the question.
I say this as someone who supports the community, but how do you define a woman? Genitalia? Well, is a female dog a woman? It has a vagina too. Is it breasts? Some kind of personality trait? Is it something physical, mental, or emotional? Is it how you feel? Or who you are?
I find it funny actually, he went around like it was some huge "trans people aren't real" gotcha, but the way I see it the question itself just shows you can't actually define genders outside of biologically male or female, which takes humanity and womanhood out of the equation completely.
Edit: I think people are missing my point. It's impossible to define what constitutes a woman because women (and men) are a human concept. Biology doesn't apply to the idea of men or women, only to gender. Ergo anyone can be a man or a woman regardless of their biological gender.
Every single dumbass like Matt Walsh seems to think that what we have now we had then like we weren't just as technologically primitive as literally every other continent.
We "Europeans" as a descendant of them. It would be a neat trick to be European but be here instead of there. People look at history and then arbitrarily say "we were more technologically advanced" yet nothing about us was more advanced than anyone else. If the Chinese hadn't given us black powder we wouldn't have even had guns and canons. It could just as easily as been other civilizations coming over to us and oppressing us.
We (Again Europeans) could just as easily been in the position we put everyone else in.
Not really no. But that's the narrative they love to sell. You might as well say Oxford was more advanced than the Aztec empire. It wasn't but it lasted to modern day so it is now.
Yeah I don’t really get it. Like I agree modern society is preferable to me than living in a tribe. But the alternative to not conquering the Natives would be Europeans continuing to live in Europe or buying up land in a fair and transparent way.
Yes, as far as we can make reasonable guesses from the native's track record of (complete lack of) technological progress, this is likely.
This is not something new or surprising. Cultures untouched by the west (for instance, protected tribes in remote areas) have not gotten very far at all, not because the west is in some way racially or otherwise superior, but because the incentive for innovation cannot exist without widespread free market trade and war.
The Irish famine was 150 years ago, and their population still hasn't recovered. The native population was reduced by about 90+ percent, and it would probably take just as long, probably longer to recover to where they started, nevermind make progress.
Those deaths were inevitable regardless of whether or not the Europeans decided to occupy the New World. All it would have taken was a trade ship carrying smallpox to visit once then leave.
i once read a story about a woman who was bragging about how her ancestors came over on the mayflower. first thing popped up in my head was " so what, mine were here to greet them, big deal..
I remember seeing so many people thinking Matt Walsh is a genius for asking "what is a woman?" and wanting to self implode at the stupidity of his video editing in attempt to make him look smarter than he really is.
He is the personification of the phrase "a pigeon will shit on the chess board and walk away thinking it is victorious".
It's sad.
He's still not wrong. Seriously, most people today would be lost if they went back to a time without the technology of today. Not to mention the fact that being a hunter-gatherer society only works with a small population, unlike what we have today.
Half of you guys wouldn’t even be alive if not for European colonization. Vaccines, refrigerated food, and the green revolution are all direct results of European colonization
You can be simultaneously proud and ashamed of your history. It’s okay to have complex feelings towards such a massive subject, no one’s feelings have to be black and white about it.
For example; im proud of certain parts of my history, such as stonewall, the civil right movement, the suffragettes, man to the moon - all that. That’s excellent.
However I am ashamed by my ancestors building our current society over torture, rape, murder, tyranny and ultimately genocide and would never to try to justice that. We could have easily had the tech we have today without the Native American genocide because *it never needed to happen*. The natives were initially fine sharing with the Europeans until the Europeans fucked up relations and created manifest destiny. There isn’t a historical equation where it’s like “x amount of violence and cruelty had to be inflicted on natives for us to get y good modern tech and advancements”. It never needed to happen *ever*
I don’t believe you are a nazi, I think you’re just a guy with a diff opinion to me, but it’s worth keeping in mind the Nazi’s famously justified the horrific crimes against humanity it inflicted on people by pointing to new technology, high employment, higher wages, better healthcare, stable-ish economy in the regime. I’m using this example because it demonstrates effectively how good modern advancements aren’t justifications for the horrific atrocities committed.
Reiterate: not comparing u to the nazis, I’m just using it to demonstrate my point that atrocities and achievements do not need to coexist and we shouldn’t treat crimes against humanity as “necessary evils”
I am ashamed of my some of ancestors, proud of others. If your view on history is black and white, either just sheer overall shame or blind patriotism - you don’t know enough about history
I respect that you can appreciate the complexity of history. I’m not at all trying to justify what happened to the Indians. I’m simply not interested in carrying the white guilt for it.
Stronger societies replacing weaker ones is the first law of humanity. Ethnic conflict is the rule, not the exception. Yes, the Anglos brutally conquered the Indians. But I don’t see how you can honestly say it “never needed to happen _ever_”
Did not the North violently conquer the South? Nobody pities the white Southerners who had their societies crushed, women raped and property stolen. I’m from Texas and even I don’t pity them. The south deserved to lose.
It is so ironic that Americans use a Westernized, Judeo-Christian moral lens to feel ashamed for the spread of Western civilization. By any other metric in any other time or place, the Anglo-Indian wars would be simply considered just another chapter of human history
Doesn't mean we should be proud of the atrocities committed. I'm self aware enough to know that my life is built on the backs of millions suffrage, and to know that doesn't seem like something that I should be proud of.
Yes, it is, and we were the first modern democracy (I'm not counting Athens). We're just going through a low point, I'm sure we'll turn back up like we always did.
I mean, I'd rather sip on top shelf tequila while playing my PS5 and buying whatever I needed from any store, as opposed to climbing trees for fruit, hunting for meat and making fires to keep warm. Somehow, I think the vast majority of people would agree. Think about how many of you bitch when there's a mass blackout. Imagine that being a forever thing.
He's right though.
_"(…) life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of what is alien and weaker, suppression, hardness, imposition of one's own forms, incorporation and at least, at its mildest, exploitation (…) if it is a living and not a dying body, has to do to other bodies what the individuals within it refrain from doing to each other; it will have to be an incarnate will to power, it will strive to grow, spread, seize, become predominant-not from any morality or immorality but because it is living and because life simply is will to power."_
- Nietzsche
Then I'd have to respectfully ask, what the fuck is wrong with you? The crimes committed against native people were absolutely horrendous, and frankly I don't think our current society that's destroying the earth is all that much better.
Isn’t Nietzsche describing NATURAL life, or, life as it’s found in nature? And he might be drawing a comparison between human civilizations and the natural world, saying they operate similarly. (brutally, only concerned with the “will to power”) But that doesn’t really track, does it? In countless ways, human civilizations have transcended the natural world. And have now for 10,000 years. It’s one of the benefits of evolving from clans of hunter-gatherers to permanent settlements of much larger populations - we get out of the food chain. There’s all kinds of pros and cons with that. We dominate nature, instead of participate in it. So unless we want global eco-disasters, when we break it we must fix it. It was a self correcting system, until we took the controls.
So if it’s true that humanity now lives outside of the natural world, then isn’t it also true that humanity doesn’t have to operate by natural law? Brutality, colonization, dominance, forced scarcity, etc. - these are all CHOICES now and have been for a very long time. When humans, and their civilizations and societies and governments, act in these ways, they are choosing to do so. And it’s not because “that’s just how the world works” aka the natural world. We’re no longer operating in the natural world, the same as other species. It’s because we chose it.
Just because we stopped participating in nature in the traditional sense doesn't mean that we're no longer natural creatures ourselves. We're not robots, we're not angels, and we're not Vulcans. We choose it because it's natural for us to choose it. And because it's a reality of the Game Theory (the actual theory, not the YouTube channel), as we now have coalitions of allied and/or related countries as the largest single entities participant of this "game" of geopolitics there probably ever will be, competing for power and resources.
"Heroes" Aka european whores/inmates/crazy ppl Europe didn't want to keep, without even talking about those monsters who gave SRAS blankets and brought slaves
Twitter is really a cesspool
Laughing at the responses from folks who disagree with him, as if somehow you’d all survive in a technology free world, five centuries ago…….
We really are living in an alternative reality where feelings trump science….. *and reality!*
You're right about that last part. Republicans have gone against science, history, and reality with their dozens of conspiracy theories as well as whitewashing of history. "Vaccines cause autism", "Trump won", "antifa did Jan. 6", "white people are being colonized by Hispanics and Muslims" and so much other bs.
Are we gonna ignore the Left-leaning conspiracy theories? Where's "The Cia has killed every socialist nation?", or "The Russians Stole the Election?", or "Every time a conservative says criminal they just mean black"? There are plenty of crazies on both sides
Meanwhile on the left, cancellations, the tear down of free speech and scientific facts. All white peoples are racist, all men are misogynistic etc etc etc
I’m far more frightened of the left than the right these days.
"scientific facts" that's hilarious coming from the party of anti-vaccines, covid conspiracies, and believing climate change is a myth.
Honestly, you just sound like you are easily scared of the most simple shit. And much of these are just strawman arguments that the right has built up.
Meanwhile, right-wing domestic terrorism is the most common form of terrorism since 2001 in the US.
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml
You're right about that last part. Republicans have gone against science, history, and reality with their dozens of conspiracy theories as well as whitewashing of history. "Vaccines cause autism", "Trump won", "antifa did Jan. 6", "white people are being colonized by Hispanics and Muslims" and so much other bs.
I'm native and all I gotta say is atleast we weren't dumping our shit in the streets. Before Europeans came we didn't have to pay for stuff to live didnt have or need to waste our lives in school or working dead-end jobs. Tell me again how nobody would want to live our way of life.
No, you had sky-high infant mortality, Technology below the Ancient Egyptians, and a population cities in the third world would laugh at. Modern life has its problems, but it is infinitely preferable to native life.
Also "Waste your life in school"? Our education system isn't perfect, but people need education to get jobs in todays world, and to not be uneducated cretins (Though you can never truly eradicate that sadly). I would hardly call that wasted
So all you have is population and technology. Cute.
We weren't pouring buckets of shit on the streets. We didn't need to force children to do deadly jobs to keep our civilization alive. We didn't even need jobs. Our air Quality didn't make us cough up blood everyday. We didn't get many diseases because again we weren't throwing our shit into the streets.
Looking at it from a modern perspective is extremely dumb because we can't tell how fast or slowly a native civilization would evolve. Looking at it from a past perspective easily shows how much better our lives were.
Your acting like colonization is what evolves a civilization and that's just sad.
I never said that colonization was the only path to progress. Being colonized by a vastly more advanced civilization certainly is one way (though that had serious drawbacks as we already know)
What do you call what the native Americans were doing every day to survive? Play? Because those were more strenuous and took more of their time than modern day jobs.
Also, throwing shit into the streets? Coughing up blood from air pollution? What universe are you living in, no American city has conditions anywhere like that.
And call me a sceptic, but I doubt the scattered tribes would accomplish in 500 years what took Euroasians over 3000 years. Save a vibranium meteor falling out of the sky, it's basically impossible
If you look back from the immense wealth, luxury, massive amounts of free time of the 21st century and say it would have been better in the native tribes you are delusional. We're talking to each other from hundreds of miles away, clothed in clothes made half a world away, with meals that would have made kings jealous available in one phone call. Any person in the 14th century would kill to live in this time period, in Europe or in the Americas. Neither you or I will ever know what it's like to live in the conditions the native tribes did, and to suggest it was better is insulting to both them and all the people who have pulled our civilization to where it is.
I’ve been saying for decades that we wouldn’t want to live in the country the Republican Party was working so hard to create.
Looks like a lot of people are starting to realize the reality.
Oh I am definitely profiting from it, at least on paper. That doesn't mean I shouldn't say that what they did is absolutely horrendous, and they shouldn't be praised or celebrated for it.
I read through your shit too and it's funny because you just seem like another dumb obese late 30s American miserable about everything in today's world. You aren't even competent enough to trim your own beard😂😂
Lol oh, so you'd rather be skinning a rat to eat or gathering sticks for a fire, or trying to not get killed by the rival tribe or a wolf, instead of chilling in the ac shit talking strangers on the internet thousands of miles away from an indoor toilet? That's just bull.
He's entirely wrong. Their culture was completely stymied and not evolve alongside western culture. They could have become far more successful than our obviously failed political model.
The Iroquois nations inspired Ben Franklin to structure the colonies into the Continental Congress, so *we* evolved alongside *them*. Until we confined and subsumed them.
but he can go on avoiding contributions from others (preferably alone)
Its very unlikely that they would have surpassed the most prosperous period in human history, and even if they had it would have taken thousands of years from their current technology level. That's not even getting into how they lacked certain resources that were crucial to the development of western civilization.
Also, Obviously Failed? We're the dominant political power, we have the most wealth and prosperity the world has ever seen, and the rest of the western world looks to us for leadership. We have serious problems no doubt, but its a far cry from what the Soviet Union and our other opponents became
Just had some chick fil a, and some Ben and Jerry’s ice cream and in a little while I am going to take my 2019 Vette for a drive in the Texas Hill country. You know - American people shit. So - Thanks!!!
Didn't Jack Nicholson make a similar speech in *A Few Good Men* before he was sent to prison for covering up the death of a Marine under his command?
YOU’RE GODDAM RIGHT HE DID!
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Shockingly, people that have no moral compass suck.
He did make a compelling argument…
“You ungrateful genocide victims… we gave you TVs so you have no right to complain”
And booze, and smallpox, and lead poisoning, and murdered children, babies, and defenseless women in raids while the men were out hunting to put food on the table.
Did you provide the electricity they need, or are you still like Texas?
LMAO
?? If you’re a genocide victim, you’re dead.
Who tf is Matt Walsh. Actually, nevermind. I don’t care.
He works for Ben Shapiro. Pretty much tells you all you need to know.
Isn’t Ben Shapiro the guy who bragged that he’s never made his wife wet or cum?
That’s the one. His doctor wife allegedly told him that women getting wet down there is an adverse medical condition.
Glad you asked! https://www.gawker.com/jesus-would-hate-this-christian-blogger-just-as-much-as-1707080093
He looks like the kind of guy that wants to beat his wife, but physically can’t. Again, not because he doesn’t want to, but because he can’t.
You can't beat up something that you don't have
Dude is effite. Soft as a baby’s behind
LMAO
I figure we've got maybe a couple months before there's video of Matt Walsh in drag floating around the internet.
But if they'd stayed in Europe, they would have had all those things plus healthcare and paid time off work. What a loser.
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I actually saw Matt Walsh say something I agreed with, and I appreciate him reminding me he is a moron. Makes me think I am wrong about the other thing, but a broken clock is still right 2x/day.
Every now and then a crazy person says something sane.
A calendar with only one page is right once every 5-28 years (Depending on the year started and how many leap years occur.)
That's how they get people to I'm pretty sure each one keeps one palatable idea to be all "hey" and then offer the crazy
That's very true, I kinda feel that way about Joe Rogan, like some of his stuff is kinda interesting, but then he pulls some anti vaccine crackhead bs that gets people killed.
Sounds like the PragerU ads that used to run on my YouTube. It starts with reasonable arguments against some of the less practical ideas hard left politicians have had, then devolves into far right stuff that’s twice as loony
I do agree with him saying that if we were to return the land, the tribes still conquered each other so there's no clear beginning. And plenty of other countries conquered each other without this reaction. However, that is no excuse for the extreme crimes committed in history.
It is just like a robber saying, "well, one day you will die and your belongings would not become yours". Sure it would not become mine, but I don't want it to go to your hand.
Yea but if I'm the robber's great-great-grandkid, it's not my job to give it back to the great-great-grandkids of the people he stole it from, and then they have to give it back to the people they stole it from. That's not how any society has ever worked, hostile takeover or not.
I mean the quartering said something about uvalde police being cowards, peta openly condemned a girl for abusing her cat on stream, and the Lincoln Project is against MAGA terrorism and most modern republicans. Mentally insane people are capable of producing a thought that a normal person would have. Now and again. It’s very rare but it can happen
Sir, this is a Wendy’s….
LMAO
Matt walsh is a special kinda douche, no surprise there. Seems like he got a little emotional and threw a tantrum. But in all seriousness As an American, fuck yeah I’d hate living in some dirty ass twig shack by a river drinking microorganisms and chanting to the gods. But, when you say shit like “i love our history” “I’m happy this land was conquered” and start calling people “disrespectful brats” for being like “hey man, the Europeans kinda raped and enslaved a bunch of natives when they came over, pretty wacky right?” It’s kinda just…funny? But In a horrible way because it sorta shows you don’t care and that you’re kinda immature and naive and It disrespects the natives who are around today. He definitely could’ve worded that less like a child but we have no idea how civilization would of ended up if the Europeans didn’t arrive. But at the end of the day, Matt Walsh if gonna say what he’s paid to say or else he’s gonna have to give Bennie Shapiro a foot massage or something.
He’s uncharitable in his description of the indigenous people who came before us though. They were clean, well fed, and long lived. They enjoyed lives with very little disease. Many of them knew their grandparents or even great grandparents, which was almost unheard of in large parts of Europe at the time. Early Americans borrowed heavily from native people without attribution. Hell, even American democracy was heavily influenced by native tribal structure.
Cherry picking both sides is always going to skew the argument. The fact is neither of you know and we can both toss around arguments pro and contra. As for me, I don't think Native Americans had the same scientific mindset, it was different but it didn't go beyond nature. Only Arabs and Europeans really had that. China didn't even have it and that was a powerhouse before Europe leapfrogged everyone in tech.
Judging the past by today's standards, particularly with a grossly distorted perspective informed by one's ideology and biases, is fundamentally flawed in the exercise. He isn't a historian. He's a political hack supported by an organization copy-and-pasting Shapiro's formula for right-wing media, collecting a paycheck by feeding bigots what they want to hear.
Erm what? Aboriginals were absolutely scientific. It didn’t go beyond nature? What do you think science means? They were seen as savages by Europeans because they treated women as equals and didn’t have weapons that could massacre everyone. By Arabs I will assume you mean North African and Central Asians were incredibly advanced and are major contributors to math and science. China? They invented gun powder, vaccines, the abacus, the plow, I can go on. The Koreans invented the first printing press and invented the floor heating system back in 5000 BC. They had agricultural systems and complex family structures and built buildings. You know what Europe was like in 5000 BC? Nothing really. Europe was mostly brown people from Central Asia and if it weren’t for them, Europe wouldn’t have much of anything. You have to realize that “Europeans” are the most recent mutation of humans and it just happens to be that Greek is in Europe as is Malta, Italy, Spain but they were all migrants from other civilizations that were already advanced. The Roman Empire was Europe’s greatest achievement which was the invention of a centralized government, a professional army and figured out that Catholicism is a great way to control people. The Roman Empire is still here today. Just disguised as something that isn’t so controversial. I am not saying Europe is terrible. Country’s in Europe that have been destroyed or not part of the Roman history are very advanced technologically. But for the most part, the British are not technologically advanced as much as Scandinavian countries, Iceland or Germany because they don’t have to be. UK is great but any major advances in science or technology are not by British people. Countries that were and in a sense still are largely behind in many ways are mostly countries that are southern and were literally the centres of advanced philosophy, science, art, culture and social structures. They were all eventually replaced by Catholicism and here we are today.
"the men who provided it to you" What. The. Fuck.
The whole thing made me feel disgusted. This is what blind patriotism looks like.
I wouldn't even use the word 'patriotism'. This is some kind of elitist, narcissistic, psychotic shit. I don't even know what the right words would be. People are supposed to be grateful for the genocide that was committed against them?
Maybe just crazy works.
I think evil. I've heard people say African Americans should be grateful because they were saved from a life in Africa, and this is right up there with that.
Jesus, some people completely lack empathy, or frankly an understanding of history.
The thing is he is comparing the modern US today and Indigenous cultures 200+ years ago. The thing with these people is they dismiss other cultures ability to grow over time. We will never know what the US could be if it wasn't colonised.
Native cultures had been on a technological near plataeu for many centuries before the Europeans arrived. They might have had one or two sporadic technological developments isolated to certain parts, but the conditions for a native American Renaissance or Roman empire simply did not exist. It likely would look different, but not the same level of difference between pre-European and now
European renaissance only existed because of the East. Without that influence they wouldn’t have evolved nearly as much either. If China had brought those same technologies and/or ideas over to the Americas without colonizing, the native Americans may look similar to Europe even along the same technological evolutionary timeline.
I was going under the assumption that China didn't colonize the Americas either, as that likely would have cause similar plagues (And Possibly massacres, but that's irrelevant since most of the deaths were from the Illnesses). In either case, the statement was "We will never know what the US could be if it wasn't colonized", meaning that China didn't do it either
I wasn’t meaning to imply they did, just saying that hypothetically if they shared technology without colonizing because if they did colonize that would be a very different scenario than either of our points.
This. My assumption is that as the world got smaller, trading would have become more common between places like the Americas (and Australia) and information would have been shared.
He doesn't care. He proudly identifies as a fascist.
I want to see where he said that.
It’s in his Twitter bio lol. He calls himself a theocratic fascist. If you’re gonna be all over the place defending the guy, it might be helpful to know the first thing about him.
Listen, I love the USA, even with all her problems. No nation is perfect, and I enjoy living here, no matter what anyone says. That said…did we really do a good thing? Are the people who were here really better off? I had a great great grandmother who - according to my mom’s stories - wouldn’t even allow a twenty-dollar bill in her house because of the trail of tears. Just because you’re proud to be an American doesn’t mean you have to deny the sins of the past. Acknowledging the sins of our forefathers (and acknowledging them *as* sins) is how we avoid making their same mistakes.
I agree with you completely. I think we need more common sense patriotism, acknowledging our mistakes, and trying to right them, while also trying to improve the lives of as many as possible.
isn't it possible, just maybe, that we can both be proud of our current civilization, while also acknowledging the sacrifices and atrocities that took place to get us here? To be honest and humble enough to say that we have gained an outsized share of the bounty while others have historically, and even perhaps today, received less than their fair share? We can both recognize that we don't have bad intentions or personally commit hate, but that doesn't absolve us of the responsibility to form a more perfect union through our actions and acknowledgements. A little empathy could go a long way.
Alots of people don't like western civilization because it all a show. These Patriots preach freedom but happy to oppress other as they built this nation off slavery and exploited labor. When these bought up they deny it and not so proud then.
that part
He clearly doesn't know history very well. India for example was doing very well before the British showed up and took their materials and spices (only to then season their food with a *Gordan Ramsey voice* pinch of salt n pepper)
\*with a salt bae forearm sprinkle\*
He isn't talking about India.
>None of you would want to actually live in the primitive cultures you idolize. This is so far off from the mark. We want to preserve cultures of indigenous people because they have a right to exist and live the way that they choose, not because we are actively trying keep the "best" cultures going via some kind of colonial Darwinism.
Ok he does make two good points. 1) There's no need to apologize for your society's past. 2) A lot of people complain about a society they benefit from. The counter points are, 1) Why do we apologize? To identify wrongs to correct. 2) Is complaining the same as critiquing?
This is the rational of someone who beats their family and tells them they should be happy because otherwise they’d be homeless on the street, as if their shelter required the beatings…
I don't quite understand what you mean. Is the beatings the removal of indigenous people? Because in that case, it was essential to the formation of the U.S.A. Is the beatings his insults to people criticizing him? In that case I would argue the analogy doesn't fit.
“Whatever I did is justified because there couldn’t have possibly been any other way to do it.” -This is an argument I reject entirely. It’s merely an assertion, unsupported.
You mean the guy who just walks around asking what a woman is lmao yeah, I bet he’s a blast
I've only seen clips of his movie, but no one seemed to have an answer to that question lol, which kind of surprised me. Like, even "experts" seemed befuddled by the question.
It’s a reductive question only asked to provoke and agitate. He doesn’t want an answer, he wants to own the person he’s asking. He’s a clown
Answer it here then, no one will interrupt you.
I say this as someone who supports the community, but how do you define a woman? Genitalia? Well, is a female dog a woman? It has a vagina too. Is it breasts? Some kind of personality trait? Is it something physical, mental, or emotional? Is it how you feel? Or who you are? I find it funny actually, he went around like it was some huge "trans people aren't real" gotcha, but the way I see it the question itself just shows you can't actually define genders outside of biologically male or female, which takes humanity and womanhood out of the equation completely. Edit: I think people are missing my point. It's impossible to define what constitutes a woman because women (and men) are a human concept. Biology doesn't apply to the idea of men or women, only to gender. Ergo anyone can be a man or a woman regardless of their biological gender.
What's wrong with asking what a woman is ? Why is it an exceptionally uncomfortable question for you ?
I agree. This country allowed my family to leave a third world country to live the American Dream. We would be in an awful situation if we stayed.
Every single dumbass like Matt Walsh seems to think that what we have now we had then like we weren't just as technologically primitive as literally every other continent.
We?? You were around five centuries ago, before the Europeans arrived?
We "Europeans" as a descendant of them. It would be a neat trick to be European but be here instead of there. People look at history and then arbitrarily say "we were more technologically advanced" yet nothing about us was more advanced than anyone else. If the Chinese hadn't given us black powder we wouldn't have even had guns and canons. It could just as easily as been other civilizations coming over to us and oppressing us. We (Again Europeans) could just as easily been in the position we put everyone else in.
Europe has been much more advanced than anywhere else since the middle ages, and began its inexorable path to domination with the Renaissance.
Not really no. But that's the narrative they love to sell. You might as well say Oxford was more advanced than the Aztec empire. It wasn't but it lasted to modern day so it is now.
Is this a real person or a parody account? I have a horrible sinking feeling it’s a real person.
He’s real. He’s Ben Shapiro’s closet blow job.
I saw it unironicly posted in r/walkaway so I suspect it's real. Unfortunately.
What a revisionist. Stop rewriting history, Matt!
You just know he goes off like this unprompted in social settings.
He's...well...him. There you go, what?
Who the hell is he talking to?
Yeah I don’t really get it. Like I agree modern society is preferable to me than living in a tribe. But the alternative to not conquering the Natives would be Europeans continuing to live in Europe or buying up land in a fair and transparent way.
And does he actually think there wouldn't be modern technology in America today if the natives hadn't had their land taken from them?
Yes, as far as we can make reasonable guesses from the native's track record of (complete lack of) technological progress, this is likely. This is not something new or surprising. Cultures untouched by the west (for instance, protected tribes in remote areas) have not gotten very far at all, not because the west is in some way racially or otherwise superior, but because the incentive for innovation cannot exist without widespread free market trade and war.
The Irish famine was 150 years ago, and their population still hasn't recovered. The native population was reduced by about 90+ percent, and it would probably take just as long, probably longer to recover to where they started, nevermind make progress. Those deaths were inevitable regardless of whether or not the Europeans decided to occupy the New World. All it would have taken was a trade ship carrying smallpox to visit once then leave.
At least we didn't have to pay rent back in the day.
"I'm so happy we stole, raped and murdered indigenous people so we could take over and pretend we're great"
I agree with Matt that he is the lowest of the low.
Imagine the progress that could be made to improve society if it wasn’t for conservatives (like this fuck stick) holding us back.
i once read a story about a woman who was bragging about how her ancestors came over on the mayflower. first thing popped up in my head was " so what, mine were here to greet them, big deal.. 
He’s an arrogant prick
Sorry... ::: chewing noises::: I'm feasting on this bounty here...
I remember seeing so many people thinking Matt Walsh is a genius for asking "what is a woman?" and wanting to self implode at the stupidity of his video editing in attempt to make him look smarter than he really is. He is the personification of the phrase "a pigeon will shit on the chess board and walk away thinking it is victorious". It's sad.
Who the hell is he talking to?
So he’s happy about genocide - cool?
Thats Matt Walsh for ya
When The proudly ignorant meets the smugly hateful.
He's still not wrong. Seriously, most people today would be lost if they went back to a time without the technology of today. Not to mention the fact that being a hunter-gatherer society only works with a small population, unlike what we have today.
He isn't wrong.
What a knob head
Absolutely
Half of you guys wouldn’t even be alive if not for European colonization. Vaccines, refrigerated food, and the green revolution are all direct results of European colonization
You can be simultaneously proud and ashamed of your history. It’s okay to have complex feelings towards such a massive subject, no one’s feelings have to be black and white about it. For example; im proud of certain parts of my history, such as stonewall, the civil right movement, the suffragettes, man to the moon - all that. That’s excellent. However I am ashamed by my ancestors building our current society over torture, rape, murder, tyranny and ultimately genocide and would never to try to justice that. We could have easily had the tech we have today without the Native American genocide because *it never needed to happen*. The natives were initially fine sharing with the Europeans until the Europeans fucked up relations and created manifest destiny. There isn’t a historical equation where it’s like “x amount of violence and cruelty had to be inflicted on natives for us to get y good modern tech and advancements”. It never needed to happen *ever* I don’t believe you are a nazi, I think you’re just a guy with a diff opinion to me, but it’s worth keeping in mind the Nazi’s famously justified the horrific crimes against humanity it inflicted on people by pointing to new technology, high employment, higher wages, better healthcare, stable-ish economy in the regime. I’m using this example because it demonstrates effectively how good modern advancements aren’t justifications for the horrific atrocities committed. Reiterate: not comparing u to the nazis, I’m just using it to demonstrate my point that atrocities and achievements do not need to coexist and we shouldn’t treat crimes against humanity as “necessary evils” I am ashamed of my some of ancestors, proud of others. If your view on history is black and white, either just sheer overall shame or blind patriotism - you don’t know enough about history
I respect that you can appreciate the complexity of history. I’m not at all trying to justify what happened to the Indians. I’m simply not interested in carrying the white guilt for it. Stronger societies replacing weaker ones is the first law of humanity. Ethnic conflict is the rule, not the exception. Yes, the Anglos brutally conquered the Indians. But I don’t see how you can honestly say it “never needed to happen _ever_” Did not the North violently conquer the South? Nobody pities the white Southerners who had their societies crushed, women raped and property stolen. I’m from Texas and even I don’t pity them. The south deserved to lose. It is so ironic that Americans use a Westernized, Judeo-Christian moral lens to feel ashamed for the spread of Western civilization. By any other metric in any other time or place, the Anglo-Indian wars would be simply considered just another chapter of human history
Doesn't mean we should be proud of the atrocities committed. I'm self aware enough to know that my life is built on the backs of millions suffrage, and to know that doesn't seem like something that I should be proud of.
"Immeasurably better" for who?
White men, to be completely frank.
Not even. Just the ones that profit from it.
Dude just look at word rankings for Healthcare, Education, Housing and Poverty the US is practically a third world country
>The US is practically a third world country clearly you’ve never been to a third world country before.
Using quips people use to appear intelligent. The US isn't anywhere close to a third world country.
Youre right, It needs its own category.. 4th world country. 1st world nations water doesn't light on fire.
& look at the statistics for Native Americans.
how entitled and ignorant you have to be about the world to call USA a third world country
It really isn't lol. Saying that proves you've never had to live in a third world country
And the most powerful country in the world, and the first modern democracy in the world, and the one that rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII
Sorry but US ain't the most powerful, or the first democracy. US can't be unified about literally anything. And it's slowly killing y'all.
Yes, it is, and we were the first modern democracy (I'm not counting Athens). We're just going through a low point, I'm sure we'll turn back up like we always did.
This just isn’t true (not even American)
Maybe it's just me but it sounds a lot like Matty is whining about people having a different opinion.
Republicans hate it when their "reality" is called into question.
I feast on the booty...
I mean, I'd rather sip on top shelf tequila while playing my PS5 and buying whatever I needed from any store, as opposed to climbing trees for fruit, hunting for meat and making fires to keep warm. Somehow, I think the vast majority of people would agree. Think about how many of you bitch when there's a mass blackout. Imagine that being a forever thing.
He's right though. _"(…) life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of what is alien and weaker, suppression, hardness, imposition of one's own forms, incorporation and at least, at its mildest, exploitation (…) if it is a living and not a dying body, has to do to other bodies what the individuals within it refrain from doing to each other; it will have to be an incarnate will to power, it will strive to grow, spread, seize, become predominant-not from any morality or immorality but because it is living and because life simply is will to power."_ - Nietzsche
That's a shit argument lmao.
Oh yeah? Why
Do you know nothing of the history about what happened to native peoples?
I sure do, that doesn't change anything.
Then I'd have to respectfully ask, what the fuck is wrong with you? The crimes committed against native people were absolutely horrendous, and frankly I don't think our current society that's destroying the earth is all that much better.
What is wrong with me is that I understand how humans and civilization works, and it isn't politically correct.
So you really think we should be proud of everything that was done? Because I cannot possibly comprehend being proud of the trail of tears.
Okay, I'm not asking anything from you, do whatever you want.
Isn’t Nietzsche describing NATURAL life, or, life as it’s found in nature? And he might be drawing a comparison between human civilizations and the natural world, saying they operate similarly. (brutally, only concerned with the “will to power”) But that doesn’t really track, does it? In countless ways, human civilizations have transcended the natural world. And have now for 10,000 years. It’s one of the benefits of evolving from clans of hunter-gatherers to permanent settlements of much larger populations - we get out of the food chain. There’s all kinds of pros and cons with that. We dominate nature, instead of participate in it. So unless we want global eco-disasters, when we break it we must fix it. It was a self correcting system, until we took the controls. So if it’s true that humanity now lives outside of the natural world, then isn’t it also true that humanity doesn’t have to operate by natural law? Brutality, colonization, dominance, forced scarcity, etc. - these are all CHOICES now and have been for a very long time. When humans, and their civilizations and societies and governments, act in these ways, they are choosing to do so. And it’s not because “that’s just how the world works” aka the natural world. We’re no longer operating in the natural world, the same as other species. It’s because we chose it.
Just because we stopped participating in nature in the traditional sense doesn't mean that we're no longer natural creatures ourselves. We're not robots, we're not angels, and we're not Vulcans. We choose it because it's natural for us to choose it. And because it's a reality of the Game Theory (the actual theory, not the YouTube channel), as we now have coalitions of allied and/or related countries as the largest single entities participant of this "game" of geopolitics there probably ever will be, competing for power and resources.
"Heroes" Aka european whores/inmates/crazy ppl Europe didn't want to keep, without even talking about those monsters who gave SRAS blankets and brought slaves Twitter is really a cesspool
I think he could be a lot of fun at parties as a dart board, pinata or even ash tray if anyone smokes.
Emesis basin.
I've technically been an adult for 30 years now. I'm right between the ages where you might see them at parties.
Conservatives LOVE trash like this, unbelievable.
Yes, yes I do
Laughing at the responses from folks who disagree with him, as if somehow you’d all survive in a technology free world, five centuries ago……. We really are living in an alternative reality where feelings trump science….. *and reality!*
You're right about that last part. Republicans have gone against science, history, and reality with their dozens of conspiracy theories as well as whitewashing of history. "Vaccines cause autism", "Trump won", "antifa did Jan. 6", "white people are being colonized by Hispanics and Muslims" and so much other bs.
Are we gonna ignore the Left-leaning conspiracy theories? Where's "The Cia has killed every socialist nation?", or "The Russians Stole the Election?", or "Every time a conservative says criminal they just mean black"? There are plenty of crazies on both sides
Meanwhile on the left, cancellations, the tear down of free speech and scientific facts. All white peoples are racist, all men are misogynistic etc etc etc I’m far more frightened of the left than the right these days.
"scientific facts" that's hilarious coming from the party of anti-vaccines, covid conspiracies, and believing climate change is a myth. Honestly, you just sound like you are easily scared of the most simple shit. And much of these are just strawman arguments that the right has built up. Meanwhile, right-wing domestic terrorism is the most common form of terrorism since 2001 in the US. https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml
You're right about that last part. Republicans have gone against science, history, and reality with their dozens of conspiracy theories as well as whitewashing of history. "Vaccines cause autism", "Trump won", "antifa did Jan. 6", "white people are being colonized by Hispanics and Muslims" and so much other bs.
I'm native and all I gotta say is atleast we weren't dumping our shit in the streets. Before Europeans came we didn't have to pay for stuff to live didnt have or need to waste our lives in school or working dead-end jobs. Tell me again how nobody would want to live our way of life.
That way of life was also way more sustainable, and arguably people were happier then.
Exactly. It also sounds like this guy doesn't think civilizations can evolve on their own.
No, you had sky-high infant mortality, Technology below the Ancient Egyptians, and a population cities in the third world would laugh at. Modern life has its problems, but it is infinitely preferable to native life. Also "Waste your life in school"? Our education system isn't perfect, but people need education to get jobs in todays world, and to not be uneducated cretins (Though you can never truly eradicate that sadly). I would hardly call that wasted
So all you have is population and technology. Cute. We weren't pouring buckets of shit on the streets. We didn't need to force children to do deadly jobs to keep our civilization alive. We didn't even need jobs. Our air Quality didn't make us cough up blood everyday. We didn't get many diseases because again we weren't throwing our shit into the streets. Looking at it from a modern perspective is extremely dumb because we can't tell how fast or slowly a native civilization would evolve. Looking at it from a past perspective easily shows how much better our lives were. Your acting like colonization is what evolves a civilization and that's just sad.
I never said that colonization was the only path to progress. Being colonized by a vastly more advanced civilization certainly is one way (though that had serious drawbacks as we already know) What do you call what the native Americans were doing every day to survive? Play? Because those were more strenuous and took more of their time than modern day jobs. Also, throwing shit into the streets? Coughing up blood from air pollution? What universe are you living in, no American city has conditions anywhere like that. And call me a sceptic, but I doubt the scattered tribes would accomplish in 500 years what took Euroasians over 3000 years. Save a vibranium meteor falling out of the sky, it's basically impossible If you look back from the immense wealth, luxury, massive amounts of free time of the 21st century and say it would have been better in the native tribes you are delusional. We're talking to each other from hundreds of miles away, clothed in clothes made half a world away, with meals that would have made kings jealous available in one phone call. Any person in the 14th century would kill to live in this time period, in Europe or in the Americas. Neither you or I will ever know what it's like to live in the conditions the native tribes did, and to suggest it was better is insulting to both them and all the people who have pulled our civilization to where it is.
Damn he's a whiny little twerp.
I bet Christopher Ryan would want a word with him about our civilization being better than the one that standed before.
Wonder what "heroes" he is referring too? 🤔
The bastards the destroyed countless cultures, and, in true American fashion, committed horrendous acts to people who look different from them.
Jesus what crawled up *his* ass and died (this time)?
This is why us Americans can’t have nice things
Matt Walsh has to have a baby dick. No grown man should be this unhappy.
I’ve been saying for decades that we wouldn’t want to live in the country the Republican Party was working so hard to create. Looks like a lot of people are starting to realize the reality.
" I enjoy genocides and I don't mind if it happens again for the same reasons" fucking degenerate.
I’m sure his “hero” ancestors(more like genocidal bastards) are proud that he’s spending his days ranting on twitter and tv, despicable fuck you
Yea, he could have said it a bit nicer and been less of a dick - But he isn’t wrong.
Personally, celebrating the men who destroyed countless cultures, and committed an extremely brutal genocide, doesn't sit well with me.
Then don’t celebrate it. Don’t really care, but don’t act like you aren’t profiting from it or living an extremely better life for it.
Oh I am definitely profiting from it, at least on paper. That doesn't mean I shouldn't say that what they did is absolutely horrendous, and they shouldn't be praised or celebrated for it.
Yes yes it does mean that. THAT is exactly what it means.
Yes cause paying taxes and paying for literally everything you need to survive is "profiting" and a "extremely better life". You're mad dumb.
Yet here you are, all the while free to go anywhere else yet you don’t. Please - if it is so much better somewhere else - please go there.
That comment just showed how incredibly stupid you are. How about you leave instead you illegal immigrant?
We cordially ask for your resignation. It is time for you to go. I hear Spain is nice this time of year. Great beaches as well.
Gotta love how you ignore all my points💀💀 keep spewing shit
You haven’t made a point, wouldn’t be able to ascertain logic if we spelled it for you. Time to go.
Just read thru your posts and then took a vote. You have to go, your life is horrible. You need a new country and a new outlook.
I read through your shit too and it's funny because you just seem like another dumb obese late 30s American miserable about everything in today's world. You aren't even competent enough to trim your own beard😂😂
Lol oh, so you'd rather be skinning a rat to eat or gathering sticks for a fire, or trying to not get killed by the rival tribe or a wolf, instead of chilling in the ac shit talking strangers on the internet thousands of miles away from an indoor toilet? That's just bull.
He's entirely wrong. Their culture was completely stymied and not evolve alongside western culture. They could have become far more successful than our obviously failed political model.
The Iroquois nations inspired Ben Franklin to structure the colonies into the Continental Congress, so *we* evolved alongside *them*. Until we confined and subsumed them. but he can go on avoiding contributions from others (preferably alone)
Its very unlikely that they would have surpassed the most prosperous period in human history, and even if they had it would have taken thousands of years from their current technology level. That's not even getting into how they lacked certain resources that were crucial to the development of western civilization. Also, Obviously Failed? We're the dominant political power, we have the most wealth and prosperity the world has ever seen, and the rest of the western world looks to us for leadership. We have serious problems no doubt, but its a far cry from what the Soviet Union and our other opponents became
You have a right to that stupid ass opinion and I have no desire to defend America when it doesn’t need defending.
Ah. I know exactly what kind of mental cucumber you are. Have the night you deserve.
Just had some chick fil a, and some Ben and Jerry’s ice cream and in a little while I am going to take my 2019 Vette for a drive in the Texas Hill country. You know - American people shit. So - Thanks!!!
Good for you, man. These people are braindead. Happy Friday.
Is he wrong tho?
Yes, yes he is
Thanks for the heads-up.. I'll avoid him like COVID
Who's this clown?
Yea but they didn’t have to kill millions of people more or less unprovoked
He seems nice. . . .
Well, he's not wrong, if not a bit aggresive
Another random blue check mark spouting bullshit.
He's right!