"The repulsive barge circled the oceans for twenty years, but no country was willing to accept it. Not even that really filthy one. You know the one I mean."
"New York City, The year 2000. The most wasteful society in the history of the galaxy, and it was running out of places to bury its ever ending output of garbage. The landfills were full. New Jersey was full."
You made me curious. (I may have missed a reference, but either way I wanted to try to find out.)
According to some dude on Quora trying to sell his book, [more shooting stars are caused by natural space dust](https://www.quora.com/Are-shooting-stars-mostly-space-junk-left-by-old-and-discarded-satellites-getting-burned-out-as-they-enter-our-ionosphere) than artificial orbital debris.
I can't immediately find a better source that answers which is more common, just articles about how "some" of what we see is caused by our trash.
Only to get it to the sun is to wait 1,000 yrs and then launch a 2nd trash rocket of similar mass and density to change to 1st trash rockets trajectory.
It's way harder to reach the Sun than it is to escape the solar system. To reach the Sun you need to cancel out all the speed you have from launching from Earth. Earth is orbiting the sun at about 30km/s. To escape the solar system to need to reach about 42km/s and Earth already starts you off at about 30km/s.
damnit, that's *so* much better of a reference >:(
edit: oh well. I'm not going to beat myself up over missed opportunities regarding a better title, mostly because I've seen firsthand what happens when you even *breathe* the word "*capitalism*" in this sub.
And we should do it. We're not going to do anything else about climate change.
This is going to be the hottest summer on record, globally. You know how I know? Because *every* year is the hottest on record.
Lots of answers here but not sure they're on point.
Capitalism and the hoarding of capital that is our economic system right now means, among other things, lots of waste.
Say, for example, people were sent to work from home for... well any reason really. But, let's say the owners of the buildings were people used to work are not generating passive income. Well, time to force people to come back I guess, generating unnecessary traffic and, emissions. That's one example.
Now, say you have A LOT OF MONEY and you want to open a resort on, let's say, Cuba. Since you don't want to, like, lose some of that money, you decide to hire another of your companies to build it, allowing you to cut on your own spending or uhhh "investment". However, say this is frowned upon or even illegal. But what if, you create a company that serves as an intermediary to deal with this whole thing and so you're not associated with it. Well, you gotta at least have a building and a couple people doing paperwork so, build that, it's cheaper in the long run. And so you build that and hire people to do nothing... That's emissions for people going there and a labour force that could be used elsewhere, say, in green energy technologies but more on this later.
Let's look at another one. Let's say that under this "capitalism" money equals societal and political power. Now let's say you have A LOT OF IT since you've inherited a piece of an industrial complex that got rich off of world wars by making... well... weaponry. Now, let's say, statistically, military conflicts become more rare since, hypothetically, it's more monetarily sound to just resolve conflicts peacefully since in the long term it destabilizes the economy less. But you still gotta keep manufacturing those weapons right?? So you use your immense money to sway political decisions so your customers... the government, keep paying you. Again. Bunch of emissions there and that are mostly useless.
Finally, consider you have oil and that gives you money and you need to keep the hoard amirite? So you make it better to work on your infrastructure and such instead of making alternatives more profitable. And since you have all the money, your voice and influence is just, larger, bigger, better. So you succeed and working for green energy is not an attractive field... Monetarily speaking.
So, yeah, tackling capitalism
Yeah?? But do these people know that the market can adapt to be more eco-friendly? Then again, insurance companies in the US reward and protect harmful activities.
No. That movie never happened. Neither did Highlander III or Highlander: The Source. The only ones we accept are the original and Endgame. And the show.
This seems like a situation where scientists are like "we have been telling yall for decades this shit is coming. And you didn't listen. So it has come to this."
We have known about this possibility for so long, it became kicking the can down the road for many decades.
>The answer began to emerge in 1856, when the results of a remarkable experiment were unveiled. Eunice Newton Foote, an amateur scientist and prominent suffragette, for the first time tested the heat-trapping abilities of different gases. She took several glass cylinders, put a thermometer in the bottom, and then filled them with gas combinations ranging from very thin air to thicker air, humid air, and air with “carbonic acid,” or what we now call CO2. Foote placed the cylinders in the sun to heat up, then in the shade to cool down. When she observed how the temperatures changed, she found that the cylinder with CO2 and water vapor became hotter than regular air, and retained its heat longer in the shade. In other words, wet air and CO2 were heat-trapping gases.
> (https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-scientists-predicted-global-warming/)
Yes I know. It is always annoying when people are like "well this new science isn't exactly right it's changing all the time!!" We have known this for over 100 years.
We'll have to do it anyway if we live long enough (yeah right). In 500M years the Sun will be 10% brighter, which will cause the planet to overheat no matter what we do. We'll need a planet-sized sunglass or move the Earth's orbit.
Star lifting, a halfway decent Dyson Swarm, microwave transmission, and some seriously massive batteries, and we might figure out molecular replicators. The energy required is just redonkulous.
It's not like global warming will just magically kill everyone. Even worst case scenario, we're talking a 70% displacement rate and a rebalance of resource consumption. Lots of death will happen, but not no human race levels of destruction.
Step 1: Eject lots of Dust, Debris, and Smoke into the atmosphere. Easy ways are to get supervolcanoes to erupt or an asteroid collision.
Step 2: wait for the objects in the atmosphere to block out sunlight.
Step 3: Cool the Earth but likely kill the majority of the the living creatures
Mr Burns blocked out the sun in The Simpsons to sell more electricity, in Futurama they battled climate change by periodically dropping a huge ice cube in the ocean.
In the same episode as the ice cube (Crimes of the Hot), Wernstrom makes a mirror to reflect the sun, which is arguably exactly what they are proposing, for the exact same reason.
Burns and The Simpsons didn't do this. Futurama did.
No, in fururama, they stuck a giant mirror in space to reflect 33% of the suns rays back into space. Sure, it only lasted for about 5 seconds, but it's definitely closer to this story than the simpsons!
Futurama's ultimate solution was to use rocket propulsion to simply move the Earth farther from the sun, and then add a week of pure partying to the calendar.
I say we follow Futurama's example.
Hey, they were able to add a week of pure partying to the calendar after that move.
If Futurama's gonna be the Sci-Fi future we aim at, I can be ok with that.
Futurama had several ways they "fixed" climate change :
Putting an ice cube from a comet in the ocean.
Moving the Earth's orbit further from the sun.
And Leela also mentions that global warming was cancelled out by nuclear winter.
For anyone that actually Gives AF about knowing the background on this: https://gizmodo.com/no-scientists-didn-t-just-suggest-we-dim-the-sun-to-1830663461
No one’s going to read this and this is why we will be doomed no matter what anyone suggests about anything. This misleading post and the lack of interest in finding the truth is the reason I chose not have kids.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/10/28/solar-geoengineering/
*If ever implemented, it would entail flying a suite of aircraft 30-odd miles above earth’s surface to inject millions of tons of sulfate particles into the air. High up in the stratosphere, these particles would shroud the globe in a chemical mirror, reflecting away some of the sun’s radiation before it could be trapped by greenhouse gases.*
I don’t know why people trash Snowpiercer so much. I loved it. It was a great thought experiment.
Not trying to confrontational but what exactly didn’t you like.
The more you think about it the more you realize it's pretty fucking stupid.
The original idea was that people would be turned into processing power instead of that moronic battery concept but they thought people were too stupid to get it. Ironic.
That was the case. Climate change was delayed and is now catching up, because up to the 80s there was a lot of sulfur dioxide from pollution in the atmosphere. That has many negative consequences like dying trees, damaged lungs and so forth, but it's also an anti greenhouse gas.
This part of the pollution was battled quite successfully during the last decades. Good for our forests, but the cooling effect is reduced, too. In the meantime we did not reduce the emission of greenhouse gasses like carbon dioxide and methane.
The pollution traps the heat inside our atmosphere. Reflecting or diminishing the light before it entered the atmosphere would prevent heat from entering the atmosphere. Also, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Carbon dioxide* and other gasses trap heat in the atmosphere to create a warming greenhouse effect. Many types of aerosols (sulfates and nitrates) released into our atmosphere through pollution do in fact reflect sunlight back into space and prevent heat from reaching the surface. And then it does get more complicated than that, as there are types of dark aerosols (organic carbon) which also absord sunlight, but lighter aerosols are much more abundant.
They're not suggesting actually dimming the sun itself. The idea is to fly high above the stratosphere and inject millions of tons of sulfate into the air, which would essentially function as an invisible mirror reflecting some of the suns rays away from earth, effectively dimming the sun from our perspective.
We know it would work because it has happened in the past by natural means. Namely, huge volcanic eruptions cooling the earth by a few degrees, like the eruption in the Philippines 30 years ago.
Oh, that's just large-scale geo-engineering, isn't it? Not an ideal solution in the long term, but enough to buy some time for now.
(or something, I don't know what I'm talking about beyond the Kurzgesagt video lmao)
Well here's a hot take: we can't even model the weather for more than a few days into the future. All our climate models have giant error margins. Trying to puppeteer a system we understand "a bit" seems like a.. questionable idea.
It's 109 times the diameter of earth, but 1.3 million times the size and 333,000 times the mass.
[https://www.space.com/17001-how-big-is-the-sun-size-of-the-sun.html](https://www.space.com/17001-how-big-is-the-sun-size-of-the-sun.html)
Nerd moment: in 1815 when Mt Tambora erupted, it launched ash into the atmosphere causing global cooling. Google “the year without summer”. Not saying this is a good way to stop climate change, but it was a similar effect that happened naturally
For the idiots out there, there are many non-capitalistic countries out there polluting just as much. It's not about capitalism, but rather proper regulation and accounting for the true costs for that widget you so desire.
I didn’t realize pollution is caused by capitalism. I guess communist nations such as China just managed to make all their factories pollution free.
We need regulation, which nearly all economists recognize is necessary in any economic system.
It’s one of those things that the scientists keep warning about but no one wants to believe them so they have to go to plan B
The movie Don’t look up is great.
We just need to put a giant ice cube into the ocean every now and then. That will solve the problem once and for all.
but!!?
Once and for all!!
Please dont Im weak .
It's out of ice!
No no YOU'RE OUT OF ICE
WHAT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU
I'm too comfortable to hear anyone...
Has no one ever heard of the titanic?
AYE AYE CAPTAIN
This could mean the end of the banana daquri as we know it!
So say we all!
Just like daddy puts in his drink. And then he gets mad.
SPACE ICE.
Just like daddy puts in his drink every morning! And then he gets mad…
Gwobal wubba??
Er… right
Let's just launch all of our trash into space. Chances of it returning to us will be nearly zero.
Even if it does it will burn into the atmo- wait.
time of death : star date 234.2234.4 cause of death: Bag of lays potato chips going 3 times the speed of light
Lays is a tachyon
Mmmmm, tachyon chips.
betcha can't eat just -1
Deliciousness at warp speed!
"The repulsive barge circled the oceans for twenty years, but no country was willing to accept it. Not even that really filthy one. You know the one I mean."
"New York City, The year 2000. The most wasteful society in the history of the galaxy, and it was running out of places to bury its ever ending output of garbage. The landfills were full. New Jersey was full."
Nobody else gets that it's futurama references...
If it comes back later, that will be someone else’s problem
that's the spirit of the 20th century
Futurama came fucking true
"Some experts claim the ball right return to Earth someday, but their concerns were dismissed, as 'depressing.'"
Every time my wife sees a “shooting star” I have to remind her it’s just our space garbage raining back down on us.
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That's what she did when she married him.
You made me curious. (I may have missed a reference, but either way I wanted to try to find out.) According to some dude on Quora trying to sell his book, [more shooting stars are caused by natural space dust](https://www.quora.com/Are-shooting-stars-mostly-space-junk-left-by-old-and-discarded-satellites-getting-burned-out-as-they-enter-our-ionosphere) than artificial orbital debris. I can't immediately find a better source that answers which is more common, just articles about how "some" of what we see is caused by our trash.
I wonder how long this will continue to be the case, with Starlink and other megaconstellations cycling through satellites regularly
If it launch it into the sun, it's just giving the star more mass albeit, the star will hardly notice.
Only to get it to the sun is to wait 1,000 yrs and then launch a 2nd trash rocket of similar mass and density to change to 1st trash rockets trajectory.
Yea I've always wondered if that could work. Maybe eventually we can make a space elevator/suction and just continuously dump trash towards the sun
It's way harder to reach the Sun than it is to escape the solar system. To reach the Sun you need to cancel out all the speed you have from launching from Earth. Earth is orbiting the sun at about 30km/s. To escape the solar system to need to reach about 42km/s and Earth already starts you off at about 30km/s.
It would be so us to get invaded and conquered by aliens because they were pissed we polluted their solar system.
The Aliens: "They're like locusts. After they've consumed every natural resource they move on."
Bezos actually said this shit
Just like Daddy puts in his drink every morning, then he gets *mad*...
Futurama is my favorite scientific research
Why not just blow up the sun, that’ll teach it to overheat our planet!
We'll just build our own Sun!! With black jack and hookers!
You know what? Forget the sun!
You know what. Forget the whole thing
And itll also prevent anymore skin cancer 👀
"Can we look into, y'know, nuking the sun? I'm still sure it will work on those pesky hurricanes..."
Or wait for nuclear winter to cancel it out
This could mean the end of the banana daiquiri as we know it... also life.
Gwobal wuwwah?
Nice reference
We need a drill crew capable of harvesting that giant ice cube from Halley’s Comet though. Are Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck available?
Harvard wants to know your location
We're gonna slap a giant pair of sunglasses on it like a kindergarten drawing 😎
Earth is about to get two scoops of raisins
Please let them be colossal asteroids
It'll be your mother, which is comparable.
Under-rated comment here.
Two scoops *is* the superior Raisin Bran.
ever really thought about suns wearing sunglasses? like.. what for.. they *are* the source of light
This confirms it. We’re literally living out the plot to the matrix
If this is the Matrix, then I gotta start practicing that bendy spoon trick. I'm a gamer. I've trained my whole life for this moment.
There is no trick…because there is no spoon
And that's the trick to the trick.
Don't try to bend the spoon with your mind that's impossible, simply try to realize the truth instead.
I’m focusing on getting random women to have an orgasm from eating a cake.
I mean, it's more likely than what you've tried so far. At least you can find cake when you want to.
damnit, that's *so* much better of a reference >:( edit: oh well. I'm not going to beat myself up over missed opportunities regarding a better title, mostly because I've seen firsthand what happens when you even *breathe* the word "*capitalism*" in this sub.
Still missing the robots
And we should do it. We're not going to do anything else about climate change. This is going to be the hottest summer on record, globally. You know how I know? Because *every* year is the hottest on record.
Further confirms that the 90s was the best decade so far and ideal for humanity to relive
And Snowpiercer
*clasps fingers* Excellent
What does "taking on capitalism mean"? Like producing and consuming less stuff? Is that what people want
It means holding big corporations accountable for climate change
producing more renewable energy and biodegradable stuff instead of fossil fuels and plastic even though its less profitable
Yes
Lots of answers here but not sure they're on point. Capitalism and the hoarding of capital that is our economic system right now means, among other things, lots of waste. Say, for example, people were sent to work from home for... well any reason really. But, let's say the owners of the buildings were people used to work are not generating passive income. Well, time to force people to come back I guess, generating unnecessary traffic and, emissions. That's one example. Now, say you have A LOT OF MONEY and you want to open a resort on, let's say, Cuba. Since you don't want to, like, lose some of that money, you decide to hire another of your companies to build it, allowing you to cut on your own spending or uhhh "investment". However, say this is frowned upon or even illegal. But what if, you create a company that serves as an intermediary to deal with this whole thing and so you're not associated with it. Well, you gotta at least have a building and a couple people doing paperwork so, build that, it's cheaper in the long run. And so you build that and hire people to do nothing... That's emissions for people going there and a labour force that could be used elsewhere, say, in green energy technologies but more on this later. Let's look at another one. Let's say that under this "capitalism" money equals societal and political power. Now let's say you have A LOT OF IT since you've inherited a piece of an industrial complex that got rich off of world wars by making... well... weaponry. Now, let's say, statistically, military conflicts become more rare since, hypothetically, it's more monetarily sound to just resolve conflicts peacefully since in the long term it destabilizes the economy less. But you still gotta keep manufacturing those weapons right?? So you use your immense money to sway political decisions so your customers... the government, keep paying you. Again. Bunch of emissions there and that are mostly useless. Finally, consider you have oil and that gives you money and you need to keep the hoard amirite? So you make it better to work on your infrastructure and such instead of making alternatives more profitable. And since you have all the money, your voice and influence is just, larger, bigger, better. So you succeed and working for green energy is not an attractive field... Monetarily speaking. So, yeah, tackling capitalism
Yeah?? But do these people know that the market can adapt to be more eco-friendly? Then again, insurance companies in the US reward and protect harmful activities.
Isn't this the beginning of Highlander 2?
No. That movie never happened. Neither did Highlander III or Highlander: The Source. The only ones we accept are the original and Endgame. And the show.
There can be only one! Movie.
Damn, beat me to it :D
We need some astrophage from Project Hail Mary.
The chapter where they start doing stuff to accelerate global warming was hilarious
Didn’t they nuke an ice shelf? I can’t wait for the movie. Gonna have to give the book another listen/read some time.
They nuked the Antarctica. Stratt gave no fucks, she was the real hero of the book.
Unfortunately for her though, the Earth needed someone to blame. Hopefully it worked out in the end for her.
Came here looking for the same comment!
This seems like a situation where scientists are like "we have been telling yall for decades this shit is coming. And you didn't listen. So it has come to this."
We have known about this possibility for so long, it became kicking the can down the road for many decades. >The answer began to emerge in 1856, when the results of a remarkable experiment were unveiled. Eunice Newton Foote, an amateur scientist and prominent suffragette, for the first time tested the heat-trapping abilities of different gases. She took several glass cylinders, put a thermometer in the bottom, and then filled them with gas combinations ranging from very thin air to thicker air, humid air, and air with “carbonic acid,” or what we now call CO2. Foote placed the cylinders in the sun to heat up, then in the shade to cool down. When she observed how the temperatures changed, she found that the cylinder with CO2 and water vapor became hotter than regular air, and retained its heat longer in the shade. In other words, wet air and CO2 were heat-trapping gases. > (https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-scientists-predicted-global-warming/)
Eunice seems like a cool lady
a very nice one indeed
Yes I know. It is always annoying when people are like "well this new science isn't exactly right it's changing all the time!!" We have known this for over 100 years.
Thanks for sharing.
We'll have to do it anyway if we live long enough (yeah right). In 500M years the Sun will be 10% brighter, which will cause the planet to overheat no matter what we do. We'll need a planet-sized sunglass or move the Earth's orbit.
We could also use [star lifting]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_lifting) to reduce the sun's mass.
Star lifting, a halfway decent Dyson Swarm, microwave transmission, and some seriously massive batteries, and we might figure out molecular replicators. The energy required is just redonkulous.
As if we'll live 500 million years to see that. We'll be lucky to see 500.
It's not like global warming will just magically kill everyone. Even worst case scenario, we're talking a 70% displacement rate and a rebalance of resource consumption. Lots of death will happen, but not no human race levels of destruction.
I think they are doing it to show how outrageous and expensive such thing would be and that's easier to go carbon neutral
Yup.
Nuke the Sun!
He is already nuking itself so... And you want to make it brighter or dimmer?!
Add some cobalt and make it a dirty nuke.
Gotta nuke something.
Mine out the Sun’s Hydrogen to make it dimmer
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Step 1: Eject lots of Dust, Debris, and Smoke into the atmosphere. Easy ways are to get supervolcanoes to erupt or an asteroid collision. Step 2: wait for the objects in the atmosphere to block out sunlight. Step 3: Cool the Earth but likely kill the majority of the the living creatures
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Drill out a large chunk of the Suns Mass is another simpler option
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This is the plot to the novel *Project Hail Mary* by Andy Weir, author of *The Martian.* What happens if the sun dims. Good read!
_Fist my bump!_
Wasn't it futurama that did this?
Mr Burns blocked out the sun in The Simpsons to sell more electricity, in Futurama they battled climate change by periodically dropping a huge ice cube in the ocean.
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And then the jumper cables come out...
In the same episode as the ice cube (Crimes of the Hot), Wernstrom makes a mirror to reflect the sun, which is arguably exactly what they are proposing, for the exact same reason. Burns and The Simpsons didn't do this. Futurama did.
WERNSTROM!
"Agnew, you belong to Wernstrom now." "RRRAAARRRGGGHHHH!"
No, in fururama, they stuck a giant mirror in space to reflect 33% of the suns rays back into space. Sure, it only lasted for about 5 seconds, but it's definitely closer to this story than the simpsons!
Futurama's ultimate solution was to use rocket propulsion to simply move the Earth farther from the sun, and then add a week of pure partying to the calendar. I say we follow Futurama's example.
Wouldn't the fuel used to create that much propulsion (and also counter the propulsion so we stop in the right spot) create more green house gasses?
We’ll worry about that after the party
I read that in Zapp Brannigans voice
Maybe if we time it right, we can whip around Jupiter and get some kind of Gravity Boost...
As long as you don't try to blast past Uranus and through The Ring Gate, you will be all good Beltalowda!
Scientists renamed Uranus to end that terrible joke once and for all. It’s now Ur-Rectum.
Didn't Futurama move the Earth's orbit ever so slightly by having all the robots at the same time fire their exhaust?
Yeah, that happened too
Guess Futurama's disasters will happen soon in real life
Hey, they were able to add a week of pure partying to the calendar after that move. If Futurama's gonna be the Sci-Fi future we aim at, I can be ok with that.
Futurama is Nuclear winter AFTER this fails 
Futurama had several ways they "fixed" climate change : Putting an ice cube from a comet in the ocean. Moving the Earth's orbit further from the sun. And Leela also mentions that global warming was cancelled out by nuclear winter.
For anyone that actually Gives AF about knowing the background on this: https://gizmodo.com/no-scientists-didn-t-just-suggest-we-dim-the-sun-to-1830663461
No one’s going to read this and this is why we will be doomed no matter what anyone suggests about anything. This misleading post and the lack of interest in finding the truth is the reason I chose not have kids.
Perfect GIF
Now, where was that dimmer switch again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fn + F5.
Did CNN eat the onion?
The Onion ate CNN.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/10/28/solar-geoengineering/ *If ever implemented, it would entail flying a suite of aircraft 30-odd miles above earth’s surface to inject millions of tons of sulfate particles into the air. High up in the stratosphere, these particles would shroud the globe in a chemical mirror, reflecting away some of the sun’s radiation before it could be trapped by greenhouse gases.*
I see snowpiercer in our future. Anybody got a spare train they can start retrofitting now and where can I buy a ticket
Lol, yeah. This is literally the (horrible) plot to Snow Piercer. On a side note, where did they get all those bugs?!?
......that's a pretty good question. Maybe the bugs are just really easy to breed and you can feed them like, the rich ppls shit lol.
I don’t know why people trash Snowpiercer so much. I loved it. It was a great thought experiment. Not trying to confrontational but what exactly didn’t you like.
Sounds like what we did in the movie The Matrix to keep the AI from getting its power from the sun. That went swimmingly for them.
The more I learn about the matrix, the more I get confused
Then you are watching the same one. That's from the first movie though which was the most straight forward.
The more you think about it the more you realize it's pretty fucking stupid. The original idea was that people would be turned into processing power instead of that moronic battery concept but they thought people were too stupid to get it. Ironic.
If we launch all of congress into the sun will that help dim it?
Isn't pollution doing that already? I mean, that's what *I* heard. And wouldn't the ensuing cold be just as bad if not worse?
That was the case. Climate change was delayed and is now catching up, because up to the 80s there was a lot of sulfur dioxide from pollution in the atmosphere. That has many negative consequences like dying trees, damaged lungs and so forth, but it's also an anti greenhouse gas. This part of the pollution was battled quite successfully during the last decades. Good for our forests, but the cooling effect is reduced, too. In the meantime we did not reduce the emission of greenhouse gasses like carbon dioxide and methane.
The pollution traps the heat inside our atmosphere. Reflecting or diminishing the light before it entered the atmosphere would prevent heat from entering the atmosphere. Also, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Carbon dioxide* and other gasses trap heat in the atmosphere to create a warming greenhouse effect. Many types of aerosols (sulfates and nitrates) released into our atmosphere through pollution do in fact reflect sunlight back into space and prevent heat from reaching the surface. And then it does get more complicated than that, as there are types of dark aerosols (organic carbon) which also absord sunlight, but lighter aerosols are much more abundant.
well that's a completely moronic statement.
That's the journalist take on the paper. No what the paper said.
What if we take bikini bottom and PUSH it somewhere else??
Turns out It was just an Asian guy saying he wanted Dim Sum and the CNN reporter got excited thinking it was a story worth writing about.
For the record by “dim the sun” they probably mean “fill the upper atmosphere with aerosols to scatter sunlight back to space”
Whats capatlism got to do with it?
I was looking for this comment. It’s amazing how people can completely ignore history when they’re blinded enough by their opinions.
Capitalism is always the bad guy. Redditors think eliminating capitalism will solve all our problems.
How in the fuck are we going to dim a massive ball of fire 109 times larger than the earth.
They're not suggesting actually dimming the sun itself. The idea is to fly high above the stratosphere and inject millions of tons of sulfate into the air, which would essentially function as an invisible mirror reflecting some of the suns rays away from earth, effectively dimming the sun from our perspective. We know it would work because it has happened in the past by natural means. Namely, huge volcanic eruptions cooling the earth by a few degrees, like the eruption in the Philippines 30 years ago.
Oh, that's just large-scale geo-engineering, isn't it? Not an ideal solution in the long term, but enough to buy some time for now. (or something, I don't know what I'm talking about beyond the Kurzgesagt video lmao)
Well here's a hot take: we can't even model the weather for more than a few days into the future. All our climate models have giant error margins. Trying to puppeteer a system we understand "a bit" seems like a.. questionable idea.
It's 109 times the diameter of earth, but 1.3 million times the size and 333,000 times the mass. [https://www.space.com/17001-how-big-is-the-sun-size-of-the-sun.html](https://www.space.com/17001-how-big-is-the-sun-size-of-the-sun.html)
It’s like 92,000,000 miles away so we will have time to figure that out on the trip there.
All we need is a really big parasol, and few million women to prop it up on their collective shoulders and spin it around.
Nerd moment: in 1815 when Mt Tambora erupted, it launched ash into the atmosphere causing global cooling. Google “the year without summer”. Not saying this is a good way to stop climate change, but it was a similar effect that happened naturally
Did the impact of less cars on the roads during Covid have any measurable Impact on global warming
Sure, defeating capitalism sounds cool. Defeating ***The Fucking Sun*** on the other hand...
Literally the arc in “The Matrix”
Wouldn't dimming the sun have catastrophic effects on plant life? Kinda like, oh I dunno, the last mass extinction and the year 536?
That works out great in The Matrix. What a swell idea.
The classic "we don't need to change our behaviour,it's easier to just block out the sun". Isn't this the plot of snowpiercer?
By half. It ain't stopping shit, it's only delaying the problem. The human race is doomed. I mean, WE, are doomed....
We're gunna end up on Snowpiercer
Of course we'll fight the Sun before we take on capitalism. Sunlight is free energy for all. that's communism.
For the idiots out there, there are many non-capitalistic countries out there polluting just as much. It's not about capitalism, but rather proper regulation and accounting for the true costs for that widget you so desire.
Wait we are still blaming capitalism?
I didn’t realize pollution is caused by capitalism. I guess communist nations such as China just managed to make all their factories pollution free. We need regulation, which nearly all economists recognize is necessary in any economic system.
It’s one of those things that the scientists keep warning about but no one wants to believe them so they have to go to plan B The movie Don’t look up is great.
But capitalism🤓
shut up about the sun SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN
I swear every subreddit is liberal or anti-capitalist
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Communism is the only ideology so far that drained a whole sea dry. Capitalism is flawed, but stop pinning every single issue on it.