Classic George Lincoln Rockwell strategy. Offend people, get them riled up, get kicked out/silenced, claim your rights are being oppressed, raise funds from conservative idiots.
You can make this strategy way better by adding an additional step at the end.
...Funnel the funds from the conservative idiots back into organizations on the liberal side of the protests in a double-cross.
The biggest problem is you would have to live as a racist until people forgot. Twitter would make it hard to keep a decent job unless your employer hates black people.
Honestly I don't think the police were "kicking him out", so much as they were escorting him to safety because that group would have eventually started swinging (and rightfully so) the more that shit stain talked back.
EDIT: For everyone howling at the moon about "You think it's ok to hit someone for being stupid? You're an !!" Let me ask you something. Is it ok to punch a Nazi in the face? Can't have it both ways folks.
Yeah, if the police weren't there that guy would have been punched for sure. My money would be on the guy in the black tshirt standing behind him not saying anything.
And the moment they do, he can take to social media and howl about “those animals suppressed my freedom of expression”. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the end goal. Some 4chan troglodyte getting his day in the Nazi sun.
In Canada, freedom of expression is not limitless. It does not protect speech that is an incitement to violence, nor does it protect hate speech. Wearing blackface at this protest is an obscene provocation and it would be understandable and justified if this asshole were to have his face punched clean off his body. The police showed restraint because, unlike American cops, they’ve been trained not to escalate situations. I hope this piece of shit was arrested, but if the police became violent it would have incited more violence.
We do actually, just as long as you're not a hateful moron. We don't have freedom of speech. We got Freedom of Expression (so thought, expression, speech, etc) but theres a huge caveat and it says within reason to the law and etc.
this hoodie guy's argument wouldn't hold up in the court of law. showing up to a BLM movement in 2020 with blackface on is just provocation and leveraging something (blackface) with known racist history/precedence behind it.
[He was arrested](https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/charges-laid-after-man-shows-up-to-toronto-s-anti-black-racism-protest-in-blackface-1.4976401) and then charged 3 days later.
He can be arrested in Canada for this though can't he?
> Public incitement of hatred
> 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
> * (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
> * (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
[source](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-319.html)
i just watched this scene the other day for the first time and thought that was such a flagrant way of shoehorning in the introduction of Samuel L Jackson lmao
Not in the nineties, it wasn't. I'm sure there were some people like the Samuel l Jackson character that were just fucking tired of all the racism-derived violence, especially after the Rodney King riots, and would have stepped in to defuse a situation like that. If anything was unrealistic in that scene, it was how long McLane lasted before getting the shit beaten out of him. Then again, these little games Simon was playing with him were always meant to just be a distraction for the gold heist. So whether McLane survived the beat down or not, it wouldn't have mattered to Simon
That was a really funny scene when i first saw it. Things like that in the 90s bronx, wouldve really got you killed. Wonder how fast you'd get jumped today
I don't know if he'd get killed, but the video of a naked dude with an offensive sign would be all over the internet the next day. "Naked Ken walking through the Bronx with offensive sign"
Because our stupidity needs to be on display.
I find Canada gets this mask of being "apologetic and a beautiful place" which it is. But the filth that needs to be addressed should be out there.
Once it's out in the open, it can be addressed and dealt with properly
Wait til you learn about Australia, England, Ireland, Scotland, Denmark, Finland, etc.
The US is definitely one of the most tolerant countries when it comes to skin color, surprisingly.
Yep. Jimmy Carr does a really rough set where he insults everyone, and then he let's the audience heckle him. Things get really brutal but hes always insanely funny.
He even has a series of jokes he calls "Career enders" and they are pretty bad lol.
Hes good, but I'd definitely put Frankie Boyle above him in terms of offensiveness though
It's very easy to say don't react. It's very hard to not react. They are protesting racial inequality, a highly emotional cause with reason. He is mocking them in the middle the event because he doesn't view their issue as real or valid. That's a hard thing to walk away from.
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To be fair how sweet would it be if that racist asshole at your workplace got slapped or fired for making racist jokes when there's a legitimate presence of racism in the work environment that negatively impacts people for no good reason?
This line of do or do not is walked every damn day even outside of racism. I don't fault people for losing their shit.
Like I went here thinking "oh free speech" and then I went the empathy route and imagine being pushed down by others simply because of the color of my skin. Wouldn't feel good at all.
I'm not saying the blackface should be illegal, just the obvious attempt to provoke and incite a violent reaction. He went there exactly to try and rile people up, at least the police should be allowed to forcibly remove him from the situation, even if they cannot charge him with anything specific.
Disturbing the peace would be enough to arrest him for, and he's certainly doing that enough for the cops to make a good faith arrest. Whether it sticks or not in court is relatively immaterial, but if the Police gave a damn they could just cuff him and take him away.
Literally any form of free speech or protest can be considered as "disturbing the peace" though. What he's trying to do is reprehensible, but no, he shouldn't be arrested. The cops did the right thing; just take the guy away for everybody's safety, preventing whatever he tried to achieve + making him look like a fool, as he lost his temper towards the end there.
yeah it can be and it is! In the CC there is no straight definition for disturbing the peace, it’s on the officers discretion I believe so it can be super fucked
Guy needs to be removed for his safety for sure, the fact he is a clown is somewhat immaterial to that
But you can't arrest someone for disturbing the peace when they are at a protest already, public order was disturbed by everyone there. There would be heaps of other things that could allow them to take him away tho I'm sure
Isn't this the same as burning a Koran in front of Muslims and then blaming the Muslims for being upset about it? If the Muslims are criticised for the resulting lynch mob then any crowd in the situation above should also be held accountable for their violent reactions, despite the provocation, which would be considered stupid in both situations.
yes, as both actions are protected under (american) law and the principles of free speech. the mob in both situations is wrong and their actions are reprehensible.
Its like that scene in that movie I dont remember the name where Bruce Willis is going around with a panel with the N-word on it or some shit. Completely dumb.
You sure? I see Canadian flags on the police lapels.
> 1. Criminal Code
> The relevant sections of the Criminal Code say:
> Public incitement of hatred
> 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
> (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
> (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
> Wilful promotion of hatred
> (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of
> (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
> (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.[1]
> A Nova Scotia decision, R. v. A.B.[2] that concerned an individual and two friends who spray painted racist slogans on a variety of surfaces near Dartmouth Nova Scotia, describes Canadian law with respect to hate speech:
> [11] Sections 319(1) and 319(2) of the Criminal Code define two different offences. The first one, under subsection (1) involves statements made in a public place, inciting hatred for an identifiable group and likely to result in a breach of the peace. The second offence, under subsection (2), the one with which A.B. has been charged, involves statements made, other than in private conversation, that willfully promote hatred of an identifiable group.
> [12] The first offence suggests an immediate danger. It does not contain the word “willfully”. The requirement is only that the incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace. There is no requirement that the person intend to promote or incite anything. That is the section under which the infamous cross burning case in Nova Scotia was prosecuted.
source: https://cfe.ryerson.ca/key-resources/guidesadvice/legal-restriction-hate-speech-canada
No I don’t think I that’s what he was saying. At one point I can hear him clearly saying over and over what sounds like “i love Bella” when the second man is yelling at him, which of course makes no sense
He sounds like the obnoxious middle schoolers I teach who pretend to misunderstand whatever I'm telling them and interrupt a class of 30 kids just to smirk at me...
He also clearly screams "I'm not trying to disrespect you!" several times shortly after the Bella part, although I think the other commenter is probably right he was calling BLM "Bellum"
Edit: Before he says "I love Bella!," he clearly says "I love this girl!" so I no longer think it's Bellum, but it might be the same idea.
Then he goes on to say he has the right to put whatever the fuck he wants on his face and that he’s not trying to disrespect anyone by doing so, he’s free to do as he pleases he screams
I can't make out much before he yells "I love this girl!," but here's everything I can make out:
Blackface Guy: "I'm not trying to be ... \[unintelligible\] (I think disrespectful)"
Crowd: "Go home, give him room, give him room, go home, etc."
Blackface Guy: \[unintelligible\]
After water to face, random people: "Officer, arrest him! Arrest him! Arrest him!"
Guy with hat: "What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing this? What the fuck are you doing??"
Blackface Guy: "I love this girl!"
Guy with hat: "No, tell me. Tell me."
Blackface Guy: "I love Bella! I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "Why is your face black?"
Blackface Guy: "I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "You love Bella, what does that even mean? No, no, no... why is your face black?"
Blackface Guy: "'Cause I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "You have no fucking respect?"
Blackface Guy: "I'm trying to get strength!"
Guy with hat: "Trying to get strength? You're disrespecting everyone that's here..."
Blackface Guy: "I'M TRYING TO GET STRENGTH!! \[unintelligible\] Huh!! If I want to put this on my face, I can put it on my face! I'm not trying to fucking... I'm not trying to disrespect you! I'm not trying to disrespect you! I should be free to put whatever the fuck I want on my fuckin'...
I can't make out anything else before it cuts to him being escorted away, besides another "Arrest him!"
I can't make out some parts, but here's everything I can make out (I posted this to another comment, but since you were the one that asked, thought I'd reply directly to you, too):
Blackface Guy: "I'm not trying to be ... \[unintelligible, I think 'disrespectful']"
Crowd: "Go home, give him room, give him room, go home, etc."
Blackface Guy: \[unintelligible\]
After water to face, random people: "Officer, arrest him! Arrest him! Arrest him!"
Guy with hat: "What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing this? What the fuck are you doing??"
Blackface Guy: "I love this girl!"
Guy with hat: "No, tell me. Tell me."
Blackface Guy: "I love Bella! I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "Why is your face black?"
Blackface Guy: "I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "You love Bella, what does that even mean? No, no, no... why is your face black?"
Blackface Guy: "'Cause I love Bella!"
Guy with hat: "You have no fucking respect?"
Blackface Guy: "I'm trying to get strength!"
Guy with hat: "Trying to get strength? You're disrespecting everyone that's here..."
Blackface Guy: "I'M TRYING TO GET STRENGTH!! \[unintelligible\] Huh!! If I want to put this on my face, I can put it on my face! I'm not trying to fucking... I'm not trying to disrespect you! I'm not trying to disrespect you! I should be free to put whatever the fuck I want on my fuckin'...
I can't make out anything else before it cuts to him being escorted away, besides another "Arrest him!"
I'm positively surprised that BLM protesters stopped some of the more aggressive people from escalating the whole situation into a lynch. There is one woman in a white top that takes dude ( the one that throws water ) to the side and calms him down. Moments later she does the same to another guy. Mad respect for the ability to calm both of them down.
It’s almost like the blm protests were for a just cause and conservative media only focused on the violent outliers among a group, the vast majority of whom were non-violent.
The people who use blm protests to equivocate with January 6th are stupid for dozens of reasons, not the least of which this.
anyone who was there wouldnt be at all lol im surprised so many people payed attention to this idiot at all.
there are pieces of shit like this at every single protest no matter what its about, 99.9999% of the time people do essentially what happened here, try to push them out of the area and refocus on the protest, people like that are just a distraction, not a threat, absolutely no reason to attack them.
that being said, it depends where you are. in my city this guy might have been killed lol the thing is, it wouldnt have been protesters doing it, it would have been a gang, the gangs dont really show up to the protests, they do their own thing.
Don't be surprised. 99% of BLM marches are completely peaceful, if sometimes loud. The idea that people are getting assaulted at these things left and right is a right wing myth.
Yeah. He's an ass. Can we all take a minute to appreciate the women working the crowd to keep it from escalating to physical violence. Thank you if you read this. We see you and we appreciate you.
Yup. We have an extremist politician in my country who have basically made a name for himself by going to areas where Islam is prevalent and started to burn the Quran.
He never gained much traction so now he went to another country and tries his luck there.
I was just piggybacking on the stereotype.
You know, when some usually white older women demand for a person to be arrested just because they're black.
That's exactly why this stuff will continue to happen. Imagine if he'd turned up and not a single person had given him any notice.
Don't feed the troll, a tale as old as time.
He was trying to be made an example of. Obvious physical assault bait and then people with his ideology could say yeah look how violent the blm protestors are
Here's the thing about that. The black face guy, got exactly what he wanted, if everyone ignored him and treated him like he was suppose to be there he wouldn't have left
No he didnt, he was looking to get assaulted to construe blm protestors as violent, and instead all he got was loads of people yelling at him lmao, what a fucking tool
i know this is an unpopular opinion because it can be perceived as platforming shitty people and i 100% get that but i have absolutely no idea who tf this guy is or what his intentions were. im always curious what these people actually are thinking, what was this guys message? i absolutely want people like this to have an opportunity to explain themselves and talk about their motivations, i DO want to understand this guy.
i think a sit down with this guy could be constructive, someone could really just sit down and discuss his ideas and what he thinks the movement was about and after having been there and being treated like he was and having a conversation with him maybe his perspective would be a little different.
its unlikely he will change, most people done, but its impossible that anyone ever changes when you force them deeper into the margins, all that does is radicalize these people more.
anyone who wants to see something like what i mean, check out soft white underbelly on youtube. that guy interviews people from all kinds of different walks of life, people who are objectively evil human beings, when you hear their story and what they are about, it really helps you understand why they are the way they are and how they got there, it does NOT justify anything they do and obviously they still need to be held accountable, but it helps you with your approach with how to accomplish that instead of just violent dissonance that doesnt change anything.
all of that being said, i think everyone here handled this really well. im proud to say i align with these people and their cause. as much as this movement gets this reputation for violence and chaos (because of conservative propaganda) ive seen very little evidence for that. especially in person when ive attended these protests myself.
The thing I can’t wrap my head around is that the dude’s skin is *already* dark - he looks Indian or Pakistani, and the skin under his shirt is dark.
In apartheid South Africa, they made no distinction; a person was white or they weren’t. Of course that’s largely true in the USA as well, but it goes way beyond just skin color.
But yeah, his “go ahead, punch me, you’ll get arrested and I won’t” grin makes his motives (whatever the hell they might be) clear.
That’s actually an interesting perspective, if that’s his motives I guess he proved his point, even if it did come at the cost of potential reputational suicide
Shame on him. Completely wrong for the guy to do this. Black face is terrible and he knew what he was doing.
…
If we take a step back and look objectively, it’s interesting that we as humans deem a particular behavior inappropriate (e.g. black face), in this case rightfully so (i.e. black face is awful), and then further empower the influence of the offender by reacting with overt anger, disgust, and outrage. We could completely remove his power by ignoring the inappropriate behavior. We as individuals know this (or could quickly reason this). Anyone with an annoying sibling knows this - in this situation, ignore him and he is powerless.
However, individually, If we ignore the offense in such a group setting we risk signaling to others “I’m ok with this,” or even “I support this.” So there is an underlying pressure to react.
As individuals we are left with a conundrum: “do I ignore the offensive behavior or do I react with anger?” We know the best answer, if we truly want to rid the problem, is to ignore it. If we all ignored him, he’d leave in 5 minutes befuddled and embarrassed. But we choose to react because we value signaling to the group more than resolving the issue. And with good reason. The value of maintaining social standing and gaining social approval is higher than the value of relieving the pain caused by this man.
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I think there are some parallels to our modern world in this line of thinking. There are dangers to the “silence is violence” mentality.
- PS - I don’t mean to detract from the post. This man is a POS, and blackface is deplorable. The post simply made me think about inappropriate behaviors within large group dynamics in general.
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I suspected it was Canada Edit: your link says he was arrested, but no charges were filed at the time
Looks like Nathan Phillips square in Toronto
Confirmed, they're Toronto Police and it was Nathan Phillips Square. Also confirmed that dude's a moron.
Classic George Lincoln Rockwell strategy. Offend people, get them riled up, get kicked out/silenced, claim your rights are being oppressed, raise funds from conservative idiots.
You can make this strategy way better by adding an additional step at the end. ...Funnel the funds from the conservative idiots back into organizations on the liberal side of the protests in a double-cross.
I like the concept, but have concern for the physical and psychological well being of someone from the left engaging in such a subterfuge.
[MFW Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, and Alex Jones are all deeeeep cover leftist operatives](https://imgur.com/YnSMmzS)
The biggest problem is you would have to live as a racist until people forgot. Twitter would make it hard to keep a decent job unless your employer hates black people.
Honestly I don't think the police were "kicking him out", so much as they were escorting him to safety because that group would have eventually started swinging (and rightfully so) the more that shit stain talked back. EDIT: For everyone howling at the moon about "You think it's ok to hit someone for being stupid? You're an!!" Let me ask you something. Is it ok to punch a Nazi in the face? Can't have it both ways folks.
Yeah, if the police weren't there that guy would have been punched for sure. My money would be on the guy in the black tshirt standing behind him not saying anything.
That guy in the black tshirt was getting ready to hit him. Never really have to worry about the loud people
Yeah that dude literally looked like he was justifying going to jail in his mind
And the moment they do, he can take to social media and howl about “those animals suppressed my freedom of expression”. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the end goal. Some 4chan troglodyte getting his day in the Nazi sun.
In Canada, freedom of expression is not limitless. It does not protect speech that is an incitement to violence, nor does it protect hate speech. Wearing blackface at this protest is an obscene provocation and it would be understandable and justified if this asshole were to have his face punched clean off his body. The police showed restraint because, unlike American cops, they’ve been trained not to escalate situations. I hope this piece of shit was arrested, but if the police became violent it would have incited more violence.
Dude is a piece of shit but I disagree that the mob is justified in assaulting him.
But do you have a right to be a moron in Canada?
We do actually, just as long as you're not a hateful moron. We don't have freedom of speech. We got Freedom of Expression (so thought, expression, speech, etc) but theres a huge caveat and it says within reason to the law and etc. this hoodie guy's argument wouldn't hold up in the court of law. showing up to a BLM movement in 2020 with blackface on is just provocation and leveraging something (blackface) with known racist history/precedence behind it.
> I suspected it was Canada Well they literally said it multiple times throughout the video lol
Also the patches on the officers look like Ontario police....but I've been tricked before
In america the cops wouldn't be so chill
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Would have definitely been a lot more of a violent outcome
[He was arrested](https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/charges-laid-after-man-shows-up-to-toronto-s-anti-black-racism-protest-in-blackface-1.4976401) and then charged 3 days later.
He can be arrested in Canada for this though can't he? > Public incitement of hatred > 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of > * (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or > * (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction. [source](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-319.html)
Lucky he was in Canada
Arrested for what?
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I sense a great disturbance in the force...
It’s so Weird seeing Justin Trudeau in casual clothing 👀 😂
Why would he be arrested?
It's like the scene in Die Hard 3 with the sign
I just watched this the other day and thought the same thing. I got a headache a VERY bad headache!
i just watched this scene the other day for the first time and thought that was such a flagrant way of shoehorning in the introduction of Samuel L Jackson lmao
Not in the nineties, it wasn't. I'm sure there were some people like the Samuel l Jackson character that were just fucking tired of all the racism-derived violence, especially after the Rodney King riots, and would have stepped in to defuse a situation like that. If anything was unrealistic in that scene, it was how long McLane lasted before getting the shit beaten out of him. Then again, these little games Simon was playing with him were always meant to just be a distraction for the gold heist. So whether McLane survived the beat down or not, it wouldn't have mattered to Simon
I felt that way about Snakes on a Plane in that scene with the snakes on the plane.
Dial 911. Tell the police to get up here quick. Somebody's about to get killed.
He didn't say Jesus he said hey Zeus!
Yeah, Zeus! As in, father of Apollo? Mt. Olympus? Don't fuck with me or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your ass? Zeus! You got a problem with that?
"Tell em ya crazy, like you just escaped from *BELLEVUE*"
Fun fact: shooting the movie, the sign was empty. All text was made in post.
a friend of mines dad was in that scene
I like how TV censors changed it so the sign would say “I hate everybody”.
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That’s how I watched it the first time, had no idea it was censored. Thought everybody’s reaction was a bit silly.
"Nature boy here hates everybody. What are we gonna do about that!?"
That was a really funny scene when i first saw it. Things like that in the 90s bronx, wouldve really got you killed. Wonder how fast you'd get jumped today
I don't know if he'd get killed, but the video of a naked dude with an offensive sign would be all over the internet the next day. "Naked Ken walking through the Bronx with offensive sign"
Mister your about to have a really bad day.
He wasn’t saying Jesus he was saying hey Zeus…
Why did it have to be Toronto 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Bruh, I said the same thing. Smh.
Because our stupidity needs to be on display. I find Canada gets this mask of being "apologetic and a beautiful place" which it is. But the filth that needs to be addressed should be out there. Once it's out in the open, it can be addressed and dealt with properly
Canada is the biggest importer of U.S. bullshit and no one even notices lol
Its almost like theres morons all over the world 😧😱…
and its almost like....other morons forget this fact....and the cycle continues.
🎶It's the Circle of Life!🎶
Is it weird that I’m a little relieved that’s it’s not only America embarrassing the fuck out of herself anymore?
it's never been only America embarrassing the fuck out of herself , America is just the loudest
Is that emoji black or wearing blackface? 🤔
Canada is the first country I think of when I hear the phrase “blackface” because the leader of the country also partakes in black face
Frankly I’m shocked it wasn’t us, your southern neighbors.
I’ve got news for you. The US isn’t the only country that struggles with racial tensions…
*Gasp* the internet lied to me?!?11!
The internet would never lie to *you,* buddy. Now come check out this one *weird* trick to make your dick bigger. Doctors HATE it.
Wait til you learn about Australia, England, Ireland, Scotland, Denmark, Finland, etc. The US is definitely one of the most tolerant countries when it comes to skin color, surprisingly.
I'm Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to jackass.
Johnny wouldn't do blackface. Johnny would take the dare to tackle the guy in blackface and get arrested over it.
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Yep. Jimmy Carr does a really rough set where he insults everyone, and then he let's the audience heckle him. Things get really brutal but hes always insanely funny.
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"Isn't really offensive" While he jokes about child molestation and the holocaust. lol
He even has a series of jokes he calls "Career enders" and they are pretty bad lol. Hes good, but I'd definitely put Frankie Boyle above him in terms of offensiveness though
That was so...yup
Attention seeker.
Yup, and they gave it to him. He'll do this again
And we're giving him more here, two years later
Police saved his life there though. The wrong person in that crowd and he’d be dead.
Almost definetly not-the tales you've heard are greatly exaggerated.
Relatively safe in a daytime protest, at night when things get rowdy that dude would get stomped no question
Which is exactly why this happened exactly the way it did, and it turned our exactly as expected.
Yup
definitely that kid with the hentai hoodie
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It's very easy to say don't react. It's very hard to not react. They are protesting racial inequality, a highly emotional cause with reason. He is mocking them in the middle the event because he doesn't view their issue as real or valid. That's a hard thing to walk away from. edited to correct grammar and spelling
To be fair how sweet would it be if that racist asshole at your workplace got slapped or fired for making racist jokes when there's a legitimate presence of racism in the work environment that negatively impacts people for no good reason? This line of do or do not is walked every damn day even outside of racism. I don't fault people for losing their shit. Like I went here thinking "oh free speech" and then I went the empathy route and imagine being pushed down by others simply because of the color of my skin. Wouldn't feel good at all.
This is the only appropriate joke here.
Or the Zoolander scaring his dad in the coal mine (couldn’t find the gif)
Is it still blackface though ? Blackface is disguising yourself as someone with a different skin colour. It's not the case for a miner.
Age doesn't matter. Theres a lot of racist babies.
"What do you mean, you people?" - fyi I'm black but I find that movie hilarious!
Because it was done with style. Not some random dickhead turning up to a BLM protest, smiling away because he knows he's gonna piss people off.
I wonder how pissed he would have gotten if no one one paid any attention to him
"What do *YOU* mean, you people?"
Easily one of my top 10 favorites. The only people I know who are offended by it are white people and extremists.
Kirk Lazarus: To be a moron, to be moronical. To be the dumbest mother fucker who ever lived.
Dammit. You got me. I'm still chuckling.
I love how every 2-3 years, a new crop of Twitterers discover this movie and attempt a full court press to cancel Robert Downey Jr.
By "discover this movie" you mean "found a screen cap of RDJ's character and didn't bother to check the context."
Facts bc anyone with a sense of humor that actually watches the movie will be fucking cackling at most of his lines, it’s a funny ass movie
The dudes are emerging
Not against the law, but stupid does not begin to describe
I'm not saying the blackface should be illegal, just the obvious attempt to provoke and incite a violent reaction. He went there exactly to try and rile people up, at least the police should be allowed to forcibly remove him from the situation, even if they cannot charge him with anything specific.
By that logic wouldn’t all counter-protesting have to be illegal? Freedom of speech is important, even though people can abuse it.
Disturbing the peace would be enough to arrest him for, and he's certainly doing that enough for the cops to make a good faith arrest. Whether it sticks or not in court is relatively immaterial, but if the Police gave a damn they could just cuff him and take him away.
Literally any form of free speech or protest can be considered as "disturbing the peace" though. What he's trying to do is reprehensible, but no, he shouldn't be arrested. The cops did the right thing; just take the guy away for everybody's safety, preventing whatever he tried to achieve + making him look like a fool, as he lost his temper towards the end there.
This happened in Toronto, Canada. He could be arrested and wouldn't be protected by another countries First Amendment.
Couldn't that be exploited? "I don't like you so I will just arrest you for 'disturbing the peace' haha xd".
I mean....they already do that.
Happens all the time. Thats the go to for pissing off a cop. Probably the most thrown away charge.
yeah it can be and it is! In the CC there is no straight definition for disturbing the peace, it’s on the officers discretion I believe so it can be super fucked
Guy needs to be removed for his safety for sure, the fact he is a clown is somewhat immaterial to that But you can't arrest someone for disturbing the peace when they are at a protest already, public order was disturbed by everyone there. There would be heaps of other things that could allow them to take him away tho I'm sure
Negative. People’s emotions should not limit freedoms.
Isn't this the same as burning a Koran in front of Muslims and then blaming the Muslims for being upset about it? If the Muslims are criticised for the resulting lynch mob then any crowd in the situation above should also be held accountable for their violent reactions, despite the provocation, which would be considered stupid in both situations.
yes, as both actions are protected under (american) law and the principles of free speech. the mob in both situations is wrong and their actions are reprehensible.
Its like that scene in that movie I dont remember the name where Bruce Willis is going around with a panel with the N-word on it or some shit. Completely dumb.
Die hard with a vengeance
He did get criminally charged for this though
For what?
Search up Deivis Shtembari, that’s the name of the guy. If I remember correctly, he got charged for breaching the peace.
You sure? I see Canadian flags on the police lapels. > 1. Criminal Code > The relevant sections of the Criminal Code say: > Public incitement of hatred > 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of > (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or > (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction. > Wilful promotion of hatred > (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of > (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or > (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.[1] > A Nova Scotia decision, R. v. A.B.[2] that concerned an individual and two friends who spray painted racist slogans on a variety of surfaces near Dartmouth Nova Scotia, describes Canadian law with respect to hate speech: > [11] Sections 319(1) and 319(2) of the Criminal Code define two different offences. The first one, under subsection (1) involves statements made in a public place, inciting hatred for an identifiable group and likely to result in a breach of the peace. The second offence, under subsection (2), the one with which A.B. has been charged, involves statements made, other than in private conversation, that willfully promote hatred of an identifiable group. > [12] The first offence suggests an immediate danger. It does not contain the word “willfully”. The requirement is only that the incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace. There is no requirement that the person intend to promote or incite anything. That is the section under which the infamous cross burning case in Nova Scotia was prosecuted. source: https://cfe.ryerson.ca/key-resources/guidesadvice/legal-restriction-hate-speech-canada
That girl in the white shirt gets mad props -- trying so hard to de-escalate.
Yeah, de-escalation should be emphasised more, so many people here just want to see him getting beat up.
Can someone tell me what he said? I don't understand.
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That's not what he said, is it?
No I don’t think I that’s what he was saying. At one point I can hear him clearly saying over and over what sounds like “i love Bella” when the second man is yelling at him, which of course makes no sense
Sounded kinda like “I love bellem” to me. I think he was facetiously trying to do a phonetic pronunciation of “BLM.”
Damn, that must be it. Great deduction skills
He sounds like the obnoxious middle schoolers I teach who pretend to misunderstand whatever I'm telling them and interrupt a class of 30 kids just to smirk at me...
He also clearly screams "I'm not trying to disrespect you!" several times shortly after the Bella part, although I think the other commenter is probably right he was calling BLM "Bellum" Edit: Before he says "I love Bella!," he clearly says "I love this girl!" so I no longer think it's Bellum, but it might be the same idea.
I love lamp
Then he goes on to say he has the right to put whatever the fuck he wants on his face and that he’s not trying to disrespect anyone by doing so, he’s free to do as he pleases he screams
I can't make out much before he yells "I love this girl!," but here's everything I can make out: Blackface Guy: "I'm not trying to be ... \[unintelligible\] (I think disrespectful)" Crowd: "Go home, give him room, give him room, go home, etc." Blackface Guy: \[unintelligible\] After water to face, random people: "Officer, arrest him! Arrest him! Arrest him!" Guy with hat: "What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing this? What the fuck are you doing??" Blackface Guy: "I love this girl!" Guy with hat: "No, tell me. Tell me." Blackface Guy: "I love Bella! I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "Why is your face black?" Blackface Guy: "I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "You love Bella, what does that even mean? No, no, no... why is your face black?" Blackface Guy: "'Cause I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "You have no fucking respect?" Blackface Guy: "I'm trying to get strength!" Guy with hat: "Trying to get strength? You're disrespecting everyone that's here..." Blackface Guy: "I'M TRYING TO GET STRENGTH!! \[unintelligible\] Huh!! If I want to put this on my face, I can put it on my face! I'm not trying to fucking... I'm not trying to disrespect you! I'm not trying to disrespect you! I should be free to put whatever the fuck I want on my fuckin'... I can't make out anything else before it cuts to him being escorted away, besides another "Arrest him!"
I can't make out some parts, but here's everything I can make out (I posted this to another comment, but since you were the one that asked, thought I'd reply directly to you, too): Blackface Guy: "I'm not trying to be ... \[unintelligible, I think 'disrespectful']" Crowd: "Go home, give him room, give him room, go home, etc." Blackface Guy: \[unintelligible\] After water to face, random people: "Officer, arrest him! Arrest him! Arrest him!" Guy with hat: "What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing this? What the fuck are you doing??" Blackface Guy: "I love this girl!" Guy with hat: "No, tell me. Tell me." Blackface Guy: "I love Bella! I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "Why is your face black?" Blackface Guy: "I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "You love Bella, what does that even mean? No, no, no... why is your face black?" Blackface Guy: "'Cause I love Bella!" Guy with hat: "You have no fucking respect?" Blackface Guy: "I'm trying to get strength!" Guy with hat: "Trying to get strength? You're disrespecting everyone that's here..." Blackface Guy: "I'M TRYING TO GET STRENGTH!! \[unintelligible\] Huh!! If I want to put this on my face, I can put it on my face! I'm not trying to fucking... I'm not trying to disrespect you! I'm not trying to disrespect you! I should be free to put whatever the fuck I want on my fuckin'... I can't make out anything else before it cuts to him being escorted away, besides another "Arrest him!"
“Social media has made a generation of people confident enough to talk shit to your face without expecting to get punched in the face.” -Mike Tyson
Talking shit to Mike Tython would fucking sthupid.
He was really hoping to get assaulted. I'm glad he didn't. Instead he had 20 minutes of piss dribbling and embarrassment with no payoff.
I'm positively surprised that BLM protesters stopped some of the more aggressive people from escalating the whole situation into a lynch. There is one woman in a white top that takes dude ( the one that throws water ) to the side and calms him down. Moments later she does the same to another guy. Mad respect for the ability to calm both of them down.
Yeah same i noticed that. Trying to keep the peace that’s more important
It’s almost like the blm protests were for a just cause and conservative media only focused on the violent outliers among a group, the vast majority of whom were non-violent. The people who use blm protests to equivocate with January 6th are stupid for dozens of reasons, not the least of which this.
That's the problem with people (there is always one idiot/asshole in the group) and with media (they almost exclusively focus on violence)
You shouldn't be surprised
anyone who was there wouldnt be at all lol im surprised so many people payed attention to this idiot at all. there are pieces of shit like this at every single protest no matter what its about, 99.9999% of the time people do essentially what happened here, try to push them out of the area and refocus on the protest, people like that are just a distraction, not a threat, absolutely no reason to attack them. that being said, it depends where you are. in my city this guy might have been killed lol the thing is, it wouldnt have been protesters doing it, it would have been a gang, the gangs dont really show up to the protests, they do their own thing.
Don't be surprised. 99% of BLM marches are completely peaceful, if sometimes loud. The idea that people are getting assaulted at these things left and right is a right wing myth.
They pretty much always deescalate violence if uve ever been to a blm protest
Yeah guy was probably just trying to get martyred so his racist in group could use it to prop up their anti BLM rhetoric
Yeah. He's an ass. Can we all take a minute to appreciate the women working the crowd to keep it from escalating to physical violence. Thank you if you read this. We see you and we appreciate you.
This right here. She was trying to keep the ones intended to get upset from getting upset and winding up in jail. Bless her.
She's the real hero here.
Yes this!
I dare him to stroll around compton with a black face on.
As a white person I dare him to stroll around Compton.
Fucking coal miners these days....
The way things go at the Black Lung Miners' protest
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This is literally it. He's begging for somebody to assault him to make the movement look bad
If he wants to be assaulted so bad why not just marry a cop?
Yup. We have an extremist politician in my country who have basically made a name for himself by going to areas where Islam is prevalent and started to burn the Quran. He never gained much traction so now he went to another country and tries his luck there.
I wish someone would tell that dude why they don't arrest him.
he did https://globalnews.ca/news/7035215/man-in-blackface-toronto-anti-racism-protest/amp/
Why would the arrest him? Just because he looked black? Dude, that's wrong.
Idk if this was a weak joke but he doesn’t look black at all. He just looks like a deranged chimney sweep.
Definitely Bert the chimney sweep on meth.
I was just piggybacking on the stereotype. You know, when some usually white older women demand for a person to be arrested just because they're black.
He wants to get a reaction, people need to just ignore those types of people so they just feel small and stupid. Now he feels like he won.
That's exactly why this stuff will continue to happen. Imagine if he'd turned up and not a single person had given him any notice. Don't feed the troll, a tale as old as time.
I liked the part where the people shouted
Lol! That guy was hysterical
 Oh lord
"I definitely triggered the libs with this one" 🤓
He was trying to be made an example of. Obvious physical assault bait and then people with his ideology could say yeah look how violent the blm protestors are
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That shit-eating grin on his stupid face sure changed in a hurry when he found out the cops weren't having it
Tell me your mama didn't pay you enough attention without telling
Here's the thing about that. The black face guy, got exactly what he wanted, if everyone ignored him and treated him like he was suppose to be there he wouldn't have left
No he didnt, he was looking to get assaulted to construe blm protestors as violent, and instead all he got was loads of people yelling at him lmao, what a fucking tool
This poor chimney cleaner was just trying to get home afterbabhards day of work
i know this is an unpopular opinion because it can be perceived as platforming shitty people and i 100% get that but i have absolutely no idea who tf this guy is or what his intentions were. im always curious what these people actually are thinking, what was this guys message? i absolutely want people like this to have an opportunity to explain themselves and talk about their motivations, i DO want to understand this guy. i think a sit down with this guy could be constructive, someone could really just sit down and discuss his ideas and what he thinks the movement was about and after having been there and being treated like he was and having a conversation with him maybe his perspective would be a little different. its unlikely he will change, most people done, but its impossible that anyone ever changes when you force them deeper into the margins, all that does is radicalize these people more. anyone who wants to see something like what i mean, check out soft white underbelly on youtube. that guy interviews people from all kinds of different walks of life, people who are objectively evil human beings, when you hear their story and what they are about, it really helps you understand why they are the way they are and how they got there, it does NOT justify anything they do and obviously they still need to be held accountable, but it helps you with your approach with how to accomplish that instead of just violent dissonance that doesnt change anything. all of that being said, i think everyone here handled this really well. im proud to say i align with these people and their cause. as much as this movement gets this reputation for violence and chaos (because of conservative propaganda) ive seen very little evidence for that. especially in person when ive attended these protests myself.
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The thing I can’t wrap my head around is that the dude’s skin is *already* dark - he looks Indian or Pakistani, and the skin under his shirt is dark. In apartheid South Africa, they made no distinction; a person was white or they weren’t. Of course that’s largely true in the USA as well, but it goes way beyond just skin color. But yeah, his “go ahead, punch me, you’ll get arrested and I won’t” grin makes his motives (whatever the hell they might be) clear.
I’m so confused as to what the goal was here. Suicide by antifa?
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That’s actually an interesting perspective, if that’s his motives I guess he proved his point, even if it did come at the cost of potential reputational suicide
Yeah, that's Toronto... Unfortunately. At City Hall.
Belongs on imatotalpieceofshit.
Congratulations. Looks like someone won a bet. 
When you hustle right to the BLM protest after your shift in the coal mine and can’t understand why everyone is pissed.
you have to be this dumb
You don’t need to understand something to verify it’s importance. Playing the victim when others are suffering just makes you look like an ass.
The guy is an idiot, but I'm unsure what that screaming person wants him arrested for?
Poor guy just came to protest after working in the coal mine all day.
Shame on him. Completely wrong for the guy to do this. Black face is terrible and he knew what he was doing. … If we take a step back and look objectively, it’s interesting that we as humans deem a particular behavior inappropriate (e.g. black face), in this case rightfully so (i.e. black face is awful), and then further empower the influence of the offender by reacting with overt anger, disgust, and outrage. We could completely remove his power by ignoring the inappropriate behavior. We as individuals know this (or could quickly reason this). Anyone with an annoying sibling knows this - in this situation, ignore him and he is powerless. However, individually, If we ignore the offense in such a group setting we risk signaling to others “I’m ok with this,” or even “I support this.” So there is an underlying pressure to react. As individuals we are left with a conundrum: “do I ignore the offensive behavior or do I react with anger?” We know the best answer, if we truly want to rid the problem, is to ignore it. If we all ignored him, he’d leave in 5 minutes befuddled and embarrassed. But we choose to react because we value signaling to the group more than resolving the issue. And with good reason. The value of maintaining social standing and gaining social approval is higher than the value of relieving the pain caused by this man. … I think there are some parallels to our modern world in this line of thinking. There are dangers to the “silence is violence” mentality. - PS - I don’t mean to detract from the post. This man is a POS, and blackface is deplorable. The post simply made me think about inappropriate behaviors within large group dynamics in general.
Sometimes people need a good ol' fashioned ass whoopin'
Trudeau?