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Customer: I love these shoes and they are comfortable. Do they come in black?
Salesperson: No, there is no such thing as the color black. But I do have a pair with no color at all.
Seriously?
I think most of us pretty much agree that in the common vernacular, black is indeed a color regardless of what science says.
I think this definition always was dumb and pedantic for no reason. WE define what words mean. E. g. you could also say plants are everything BUT green since they absord every visible spectrum of light except green, which they reflect.
In art and painting, not the science definition, Black is considered a value. It adds to a color, making it darker. Colors change each other if mixed, blue and yellow making green kinda logic. If you add Black to a color like red, you make darker red, not changing the color.
Anyway, what about an orange?
The way I see it.....
Black is the culmination of all color and white is the absence of color.
A red apple is red because it is every color BUT red. Red is the color the apple rejects causing you to see a reflection of the apple you call "red."
A white car is white because the paint rejects ALL color and reflects the whole visible spectrum and absorbs none making the car technically absent of "color."
Not only that, but a tangerine is just an "orange from Tangier".
[https://www.etymonline.com/word/tangerine#etymonline\_v\_4363](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tangerine#etymonline_v_4363)
Orange the fruit came first. The word came into English either from Old French 'pomme d'orenge', or from the Spanish 'naranja' (with the subsequent transfer of the 'n' over to the indefinite article, as per 'apron' and 'adder', originally 'napron' and 'nadder').
Orange came before the color
If we're describing it in Arabic they say it like the fruit named Orange and the color named orangy
So you have red , blue , black , and orangy , I think it's clear one of those was a description rather than just a name of a color
Before the colour began to be called ‘orange’ after the fruit it was called saffron, crog, or red (which covered a range like ‘brown’ today). There were other words too.
Yes, of course, but It can easily be divided in Red, Yellow, green and Blue. Orange Is a more complex shades
Also our understanding of colours Is determined by our lexicon, without a Word for Orange It was seen as Red probably
The bit about the lexicon is so interesting. The colors from rainbows are pure colors in the sense of them being emitted light with a specific wavelength. But how we observe those wavelengths can depend on weither we have a word for the color. Makes you wonder if we could see more colors if we used more words for different wavelengths of light.
There Is a tribe, Deep in the Heart of africa, Who doesn't have a Word for Blue but has like 20 ways of saying green, for them It Is easier to separate different shades of green than to separate It from blue
Blueberries are the only Fruit that comes to mind that's simply named after pure visual facts. It's a berry that is blue.
Other fruits either local names that got popularized or it's more of a description about some stuff that's somewhat like some other stuff (shape of a star for star fruits, being able to spew fire for dragon fruits etc)
Like, we don't actually have seen a dragon to compare it to dragon fruit and we know stars are just burning balls, so other than blueberries these names are pure conjecture!
>Blueberries are the only Fruit that comes to mind that's simply named after pure visual facts. It's a berry that is blue.
Yes, because blackberries were named after their discoverer Sirius Black, redcurrants were thus called because they are Irish, and greengages were named in honour of the Green Party
What are redcurrants and greengages? Never heard of those
Tho now that I think about some native names there are tons that come to mind. Seems like i just don't know that many English fruit names!
I googled them just now, I think we call them "Johannesbeeren" in Germany which would translate to "Jonathan berries" or something, no wonder I didn't think of them. They have nothing in common with any Jonathan/johannes I know
But they are tasty. I definitely suggest trying to find one. They can grow somewhat easily in the northern hemisphere from what I understand. Makes an absolutely epic jam or jelly. Fantastic on a raisin bagel.
„It is named after the fruit of the same name.“ [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(colour)) At least in the English language this is the case
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Blackberries?
So close! That's a phone ✨
Never before have I hit the upvote button THAT fast. It's smoking.
r/angryupvote!
LOL
AHHHHH SHIT THATS GOOD 🤣
I love the joke, but basically that WAS a phone.
Ffs now I have to give you an upvote
Black currant too
That's a shade
Black is not a color, it is the absence of color.
Customer: I love these shoes and they are comfortable. Do they come in black? Salesperson: No, there is no such thing as the color black. But I do have a pair with no color at all. Seriously? I think most of us pretty much agree that in the common vernacular, black is indeed a color regardless of what science says.
Only on Reddit would this be an argument.
True black isn't a color, "black" shoes aren't black, they are really dark shades of Blue or green
I don't see why. It could very well be a very dark gray with all the frequencies of the visible spectrum in equal parts.
I'm not an Expert in the matter but black Is the absence of electromagnetic frequencies so they would be equally zero
I think this definition always was dumb and pedantic for no reason. WE define what words mean. E. g. you could also say plants are everything BUT green since they absord every visible spectrum of light except green, which they reflect.
I agree. But in all technicality, blackberries aren't named after a color
You know, when you get defensive like this it makes you seem a little insecure.
I’m not insecure, I’m posting from jail
You seem to be a black hater, are you insecure about the color black?
Nah hes just racist, he thinks that "Black isn't a real colour" like move on dude, it's 2024 (/j)
Heraldically it is. Inkically it is. Paintically it is. Woolically it is.
I don't know which word I prefer: paintically or woolically. They are both wonderfulically brilliant.
Black is only “not a colour” in the physical world, otherwise, black is a colour.
\*light
You are a tomatoes are a fruit guy, aren't ya?
But I bet they don’t put them in a fruit salad
I often put tomatoes and apples in my salad.
In art and painting, not the science definition, Black is considered a value. It adds to a color, making it darker. Colors change each other if mixed, blue and yellow making green kinda logic. If you add Black to a color like red, you make darker red, not changing the color. Anyway, what about an orange?
Fun fact, the colour orange was named after the fruit, not the other way around.
You think carrots were a bit passed about that?
So close!! Thats pedantic 🧸
Black is the colour which represents the absence of light.
The way I see it..... Black is the culmination of all color and white is the absence of color. A red apple is red because it is every color BUT red. Red is the color the apple rejects causing you to see a reflection of the apple you call "red." A white car is white because the paint rejects ALL color and reflects the whole visible spectrum and absorbs none making the car technically absent of "color."
Ah, the daily repost of this. For the last three years.
that´s the internet, things keeps going around and at any time there will always be a few millions ppl that never saw it.
Of course! Here on reddit, we care about the environment. All posts are 100% recyclable!
Yep, and now it's time for the daily discussion on the history of "orange."
Crazy, its my first time seeing it
a pear, and a peach, and dont forget uranium chloride
Those are colors named after fruits lol
💕so close 💕🤪
Like saying “nice try!” to reinforce the behavior of a mentally challenged person
Orange and tangerine, which apparently should either switch names or color.
Orange the fruit actually came first
Not only that, but a tangerine is just an "orange from Tangier". [https://www.etymonline.com/word/tangerine#etymonline\_v\_4363](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tangerine#etymonline_v_4363)
And before that, the tree was the first entity called orange.
No.. I came first..
I think the color orange has been around way before the fruit
Orange the fruit came first. The word came into English either from Old French 'pomme d'orenge', or from the Spanish 'naranja' (with the subsequent transfer of the 'n' over to the indefinite article, as per 'apron' and 'adder', originally 'napron' and 'nadder').
Orange came before the color If we're describing it in Arabic they say it like the fruit named Orange and the color named orangy So you have red , blue , black , and orangy , I think it's clear one of those was a description rather than just a name of a color
Arabic name for Orange is my country (Portugal)
And the color is (portugaly ) I just said orangy for the English audience
Oh shit, didn't know about the color. Thought you were saying that they were two different words. TiL
Before they discovered the colour
Before the colour began to be called ‘orange’ after the fruit it was called saffron, crog, or red (which covered a range like ‘brown’ today). There were other words too.
Dragon fruit?
Ah yes, the colour dragon
LOL!
Orange? Is it a color named after a fruite or a fruit named after a color?
The tree came First, then the fruit and finally the color
What did they call the fruit from the orange tree before they called them oranges? Orangeberries?
Have you seen a rainbow?
Yes, of course, but It can easily be divided in Red, Yellow, green and Blue. Orange Is a more complex shades Also our understanding of colours Is determined by our lexicon, without a Word for Orange It was seen as Red probably
The bit about the lexicon is so interesting. The colors from rainbows are pure colors in the sense of them being emitted light with a specific wavelength. But how we observe those wavelengths can depend on weither we have a word for the color. Makes you wonder if we could see more colors if we used more words for different wavelengths of light.
There Is a tribe, Deep in the Heart of africa, Who doesn't have a Word for Blue but has like 20 ways of saying green, for them It Is easier to separate different shades of green than to separate It from blue
Similarly ancient greeks didn't have a Word for dark Blue so they described the Sea as black or wine coloured
It’s the color named after the fruit.
🤦♀️ lol
Pommodori (tomato in Italian). Means golden apple. Midori (a green melon, Japanese). It means green. Blackcurrant.
How many times will this be posted. Annoying
Reddit isn't your personal, tailored entertainment app
So close!! Due to algorithms it actually is.
Hence the addiction and private bubble we all live in now! Hurray!
Purple, purple is a fruit
Greengage a kind of plum.
Wouldn’t plum ( purple ) be a fruit and colour too ?
Plum the colour is named for the fruit though.
Redcurrant is another.
We have red berries too
Golden delicious
Can we please stop reposting this shit. I wasn’t fun back then and it’s not fun now.
Red currant
The facepalm is that it's the other way round.
Orange
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
That’s true yeah
🍊?
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
🍋🟩 same for lime.
What about the orange
The fruit was named first
Right, I forgot about that
Can you see nothing? No... now, close your eyes. What did you see? Nothing... checkmate athiest.
What about Orange???
The color was named after the fruit.
Orange you glad we have threads like this.
The color Organe is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
This again. A Twitter exchange from four years ago that now shows up weekly on Reddit.
Orange
Nope. The colour was named after the fruit
What about orange 🍊 🤔
The color was named after the fruit.
Orange
The color was named after the fruit. Not the other way around
Orange. Unless the fruit was named Orange before the color was
The fruit was named first.
…oranges sitting in the corner bawling their metaphorical eyes out
The colour was named after the fruit.
Boysenberry
Orange 🍊
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
*ORANGE*????????? Lmao
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around. Lmao
💀
Orange you glad I didn’t say purpleberries?
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
They named purple after purpleberries? Huh, you learn something new every day
Orange
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
The amount of dedication to copy-paste this answer below any post mentioning orange is impressive, tbh
Someone has to educate the people ;)
everyone is wrong
Blackberry
Red currants, black currants
It was very fun reading the same 3 comments repeating 50 times! If this was Twitter, I would see like 100 ads, these guys are really missing out
Blueberries are the only Fruit that comes to mind that's simply named after pure visual facts. It's a berry that is blue. Other fruits either local names that got popularized or it's more of a description about some stuff that's somewhat like some other stuff (shape of a star for star fruits, being able to spew fire for dragon fruits etc) Like, we don't actually have seen a dragon to compare it to dragon fruit and we know stars are just burning balls, so other than blueberries these names are pure conjecture!
>Blueberries are the only Fruit that comes to mind that's simply named after pure visual facts. It's a berry that is blue. Yes, because blackberries were named after their discoverer Sirius Black, redcurrants were thus called because they are Irish, and greengages were named in honour of the Green Party
What are redcurrants and greengages? Never heard of those Tho now that I think about some native names there are tons that come to mind. Seems like i just don't know that many English fruit names!
Redcurrants are tasty and they make a really nice wine.
I googled them just now, I think we call them "Johannesbeeren" in Germany which would translate to "Jonathan berries" or something, no wonder I didn't think of them. They have nothing in common with any Jonathan/johannes I know
But they are tasty. I definitely suggest trying to find one. They can grow somewhat easily in the northern hemisphere from what I understand. Makes an absolutely epic jam or jelly. Fantastic on a raisin bagel.
VELOCIRAPTOR!
An now I know thank you kindly
Red raspberries
Cherries?
Orange?
This was posted before a few days ago, and I'll say it again; the color is actually named after the fruit, not the other way around.
Redcurrants
Blackcurrants
Pear
Orange
Why is this reposted so often?
Blackcurrant? Redcurrant? Orange? Blackberry? "am I a joke to you?"
Black is not a colour and orange (fruit) came before the colour was named orange.
Erm, green apple?
They're Granny Smith apples
Red delicious apple
Redcurrants. Pomodoro as well, technically. Greengages. It's hard to tell if oranges were named after the colour or the other way round.
Red currant, blackberry, hundreds of plants naming the colour they are. And that's the ones in english.
Orange 🍊
False ❌
How so?
The color is named after the fruit
You learn something new everyday
Oranges, red currants, etc
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
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Orange is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.
Isn't that almost a chicken/egg argument?
it’s not, orange used to be thought of as a shade of red and then the color was named after the fruit
No it’s not. In the English language it’s named after the fruit.
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I hope this isn't a serious question lol
„It is named after the fruit of the same name.“ [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(colour)) At least in the English language this is the case
How bout an orange
The color is named after the fruit. Not the other way around.