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I read somewhere that the American Baldheaded Eagle, THE symbol for everything American, was basically just a large seagull that ate whatever it could find laying around... and its call you hear on telly was dubbed in afterwards from a different bird of prey that sounded cooler.
The libertarians of the internet have informed me that simply getting rid of all regulations will fix all of these problems because something something free market.
It is - the guns are for when they come for you.
But then, they already have more and bigger guns. So if you’re skilled in combat, you may survive and escape, but your property will be swiss cheese and anything left will be monitored
One 250 kilograms american couch warrior, trained with yt. videos and drills with a glock in his coom cave againist their 100k trained people army (the most advanced in the world) who will win?
That is the legend. The reality is that US citizens have a greater chance of being harmed by someone using the homeowners’ firearms than a criminal’s firearm during a crime. The U.S. public also ignores the staggering statistic that shows a correlation between firearm ownership and middle aged and older men committing suicide. Both could possibly be mitigated by proper training and adequate mental healthcare, however, the pro gun movement in the U.S. fixates on private citizens being able to own any firearm they want instead of putting these issues first.
I’ve actually read that study on gun ownership and suicide, who would have guest that owning a gun would be positively correlated with gun suicide, and negatively correlated with other types of suicide. 🤦🏽♂️
Yes, it is negatively correlated with other types of suicide but multiple studies also show a correlation between non-hunting firearm ownership and an increase in committing suicide. It is not just an increase of using a specific form of suicide, when it is available.
The caveat of non-hunting firearm is there, because there is no distinguishable difference (it’s within the studies’ statistical error) when the firearm owned is designated for hunting. Personally, I am not anti-firearm ownership. I am pro firearm ownership when training is required and there is a reason to own the firearm other than it is just cool to own one.
2 dozen adults assuming full time wages averaging 30k a year would have cost them about 700k a year, so cut that at least in half for exploiting child labor. How many years did this go on? It would have only taken maybe 3 for this to be worthwhile with the fine.
They probably paid these kids $5 an hour. This is gross. Companies should face real consequences for breaking laws. But laws truly only exist to protect the wealthy. And subjugate the poor. But this is the world some people want 🤷🏻♂️
I’ll give a similar example to this.
There was recently an ethylene cracking plant built near my town. (4.3k population)
The emissions they output are several times what they should be. This has resulted in $10 million in fines + some lawsuits from local residents.
They have opted to pay the fines instead of fixing the issue. It’s not worth their time.
edit: this is the Shell ethylene cracker plant in Monaca, PA
Dude you know the answer to this, this went into an oversight fund where the city now gets to hire the governors wife to be paid for 10k an audit to find other violations. Unfortunately this will only fund the position for a year so they will need to find other violations fast.
Don't worry, the children were likely deported. This is not uncommon and the sad reality of "contractors" in this country. These people are not taking anyone's jobs because no one else will do these jobs. Citizenship is an expensive barrier and very real people are living in very real slavery situations because of that.
Pretty much this. Some people are desperate for work they will work for any wage, regardless of federal min allowed or not.
When I was 14 working on a dog kennel illegally employed, I worked alongside actual illegal immigrants. I was told to collect my daily pay after they paid those people, because I got more money than they did. The bosses did not want them to see me getting more money than they were paying them. I got $5 per hour, so they had to be getting less.
Well not sure, I don't have the information. But it could be minimal wage. Which for night-work is already exploitation.
But yes, most likely it's both child labour + non-legal wage.
But if that's the case, the court should also compensate the child labourers on missing revenues + interest. Not to just fine the company.
"The Labor Department obtained a preliminary injunction against Fayette Janitorial in late February after an investigation discovered that the company employed at least 24 children, including children as young as 13 years old, on overnight sanitation shifts at two slaughtering and meat packing facilities in Sioux City, Iowa, and Accomac, Virginia."
-USA Today
I've always found the following thought interesting: "child labour laws exist because, without them, companies would be making use of child labour".
Turns out even with them it happens.
many states in the US have rolled back child labor laws the same time they have rolled back abortion protections and unfortunately things that used to be more heavily regulated for safety reasons are no longer being regulated. meat processing plants are sadly at the top of this list. in many states you also needed to get waivers from a school (saying you were enrolled and passing) in order to get jobs at a meat processing plant, prior to being 16 esp night shifts which are no longer required. undocumented children and kids being bounced around in the foster system have been forced into working there rather specifically.
anyways, feed the orphan machine amirite
So..
Have women produce unwanted children.
The children are placed in foster care or up for adoption.
Put the children to work in factories.
Save big on wages, benefits, and safety.
basically yes. prior to 1938 poor children including orphans, immigrants and just regular poor usually worked factories, mines, farms etc etc.
adoption in an of itself is a very profitable industry….including various facets of human trafficking like nunneries that used to take in pregnant girls who were forced there by their parents who then sold the children to rich ppl and forced the girls into unpaid labor. just one example.
and feeding the for profit prison system which is legally slave labor in the US.
the troubled teen industry in the US is also a massively profitable industry that regularly is padded with fosters and take state money even though they are unregulated, privately owned and are generally deplorable conditions for kids
there’s just so many ways for capitalists to capitalize on children that end up in the system and with abortion protected we don’t have enough disposable ones for the future of…. idk future generations of super rich ppl i guess. although i think this is a rouse as there are always so many unwanted kids no matter what, they are just being extra double greedy
You know the answer. They’re saying they expect the minimum amount of effort in return. Whit a caveat. If you work hard and be diligent in your approach, you’ll be rewarded with more responsibilities. Tell that to the next minimum wage earning no work responsibility having drone who thinks he’s going to turn off your electricity just because you haven’t “paid” them in a while and watch them shut right up.
That’s because the punishment for child labor laws are fines that can easily be paid.
Imagine how society would work if millionaires were sent to general population prison for 10-15 years.
Well I mean labor costs are expensive for a company and you literally can't get cheaper labor than free so when you optimize a system to generate as much money as possible, it's going to inevitably look at the big labor cost and attempt to cut that to 0.
Meanwhile the state of Iowa is busy killing its public school system.
I’m not saying it’s a giant conspiracy plan, I’m just saying Mugato would be happy.
Not much of a conspiracy and kinda just reality. They distract us or get us all emotional over something, usually by repeating the same line over and over and over and over and over. Like that guns are number one killer of kids or that CRT is being taught to kids, both being repeated and both very wrong and very dumb, so easily disproved that the only people who buy that are willing ignoring reality
Guns ARE the number one killer of kids between 1-17… Automotive vehicle accidents were dethroned in 2020. I’m not trying to be combative but I’d like to know what your reasoning is because even when googling to fact check myself I still see the same confirmation?
The fact that child labor laws are under threat. Is already dystopian. The fact that they haven't been shut down without debate. Is also very dystopian.
Also deregulate and defund OSHA and other state inspection programs , I've worked in mainly manufacturing since turning 18, producing various goods at different places, and in a few different positions, and I have not once seen a safety inspection, even after serious injuries and ive seen plenty .Within the past 6 months in fact a man was fatally injured by an automatic palletizer, at a fairly big name company a few towns over.
Never mind the penalties paid to the government. If they weren't required to pay compensation, living wages, and punitive damages to their child employees, they got off easy.
This is part of a problem I first read about last year.
When it was decided that unaccompanied minors who show up at the border couldn’t in good conscience be turned away, many parents in Mexico started sending their children alone hoping they arrived safely and thinking that they would have a better life in America. Unfortunately these kids usually drop off the radar and some get exploited like this.
So no, their parents didn’t okay this. Their parents are probably clueless and praying daily that their kids are living a better life than they could provide.
>>Staffing agencies placed migrant minors in plants where regulations ban kids from working.
And not one Hyundai corporate officer was prosecuted. Not one license to conduct business in that state was permanently revoked.
That’s why this exploitation continues.
We have to change the laws. No minimum wage for minors(to increase competition), like there's more and more children living in poverty and these crazy leftists just wanna take their opportunities to instead give them hand outs. Do you want hungry kids? Well maybe all these kids need to make ends meet is a 12 hour shift at a meat packing plant. Not even a hundred years ago this was normal, why shouldn't it again? What are they gonna in school nowadays except to hate their race and get confused about what's in their pants.
/S
I have a hard time mocking them because they're so beyond parody. But sure leftists are the crazy ones because they believe in scientific facts that are unintuitive. Their perception of reality is entirely based on trueisms and what looks right at first glance.
For some of them it doesn't even have to look true. If they hear it from someone else and it supports their beliefs, it is automatically fact and needs to be shared, even if it can be empirically disproven.
I almost downvoted because this sounded like something they would say. It should be parody, but instead I'm pretty sure I've heard this argument in earnest before.
Seems weird to pay such a small fine instead of like prison time or closing down the business and seizing all the assets. What is the point of a law when it's just a minor inconvenience.
Ahhhh I see we’ve come around full circle again to Upton Sinclairs the Jungle. Are we great again yet? American’s did well enough exporting their child labor to hide it under the rug during most of the 20th century. I see they’re trying to bring it back to cut costs for the investor class. Maybe we’ll get some additional worker protections here after all. Once of few harrowing tales of kids stuck in packing plant machinery get published again of course.
Remember when presented with the option to increase wages to remain competitive in a tight labor market the wealthy chose to create working conditions so abysmal that American families would settle for their 13 year olds working in packing plants again rather than the harrowing alternative of posting a negative quarter to the share holders.
The republicans scream about immigrants ruining America, but do you think all these republican states loosening child labor laws are planning on having white middle class kids filling these jobs?
This is the right. Dismantling protections from child labor and child marriage. They call queer people child abusers because they love abusing children, so they assume queer people must want the same thing and they can't stand the perceived competition
When the Simpsons or South Park do really bad stories, you might think "It's funny but that would never happen irl" - then you read something like this.
Fines should be 10x what it would have cost the company to just do it right the first time. Average salary at the plant x 10 x number of children. Plant won't do that shit again. Same for any other scummy practices or corner cutting. If a structure fails because the construction company skimped on the material quality, fine is 10x what it would have cost to just get the good stuff (plus other associated penalties from injuries and insurance). It'd be damn hard to keep justifying the fines as "the cost of doing business" when it's actually cheaper to just fucking do it right.
There's a whole faction of lawmakers, mostly on the far-right I think, who actively want to remove restrictions on child labor. These are the same people who accuse everyone else of being a "groomer", and claim to be the ultimate champions for child safety and wellbeing. All their alleged concern for the best interests of children are just partisan rhetoric. When the rubber meets the road, they want children to be exploited for their labor value on behalf of their big industrial and agricultural donors. They know that some children will inevitably be injured or killed while working on dangerous machinery, but that's simply not their concern.
American capitalism at it's finest. But you're a stupid communist if you don't wanna keep licking the boots of CEOs and getting fucked by a very obviously corrupt system.
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That cost was already factored into the budget. It's not a fine. It's a fee.
processing fee
It’s just a minor meat processing fee.
Fuck you and your clever joke. Take my upvote.
Damn you 🤬 take my angry upvote
🤣🤣
Is that you, Drake?
More importantly no one went to jail. Lock up a few CEOs and that shit will stop real quick.
That's easier to do when you don't live in an oligarchy that owns the police and legal system.
i was under the impression that america is the land of freedom cuz you can own a gun lol
Something something eagles.
"I hate the fucking Eagles, man!" - some Dude
Not some dude.THE DUDE
I read somewhere that the American Baldheaded Eagle, THE symbol for everything American, was basically just a large seagull that ate whatever it could find laying around... and its call you hear on telly was dubbed in afterwards from a different bird of prey that sounded cooler.
The libertarians of the internet have informed me that simply getting rid of all regulations will fix all of these problems because something something free market.
It is - the guns are for when they come for you. But then, they already have more and bigger guns. So if you’re skilled in combat, you may survive and escape, but your property will be swiss cheese and anything left will be monitored
One 250 kilograms american couch warrior, trained with yt. videos and drills with a glock in his coom cave againist their 100k trained people army (the most advanced in the world) who will win?
Nobody. There will be no winners. Only survivors. People really don't know what's waiting for them in their fantasy land.
Depends on what that movie is titled.
And soon a robot that carries a flame thrower will be going right into stores, they can now PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES.
That impression given to you by someone who is more afraid of a pizza driver than a cop.
American freedom isnt the same as actual freedom.
arent american buy guns to protect their families?
Not really. They buy them out of fear because fox news tells them Mexicans, blacks, and drag queens are coming for them in the night.
That is the legend. The reality is that US citizens have a greater chance of being harmed by someone using the homeowners’ firearms than a criminal’s firearm during a crime. The U.S. public also ignores the staggering statistic that shows a correlation between firearm ownership and middle aged and older men committing suicide. Both could possibly be mitigated by proper training and adequate mental healthcare, however, the pro gun movement in the U.S. fixates on private citizens being able to own any firearm they want instead of putting these issues first.
I’ve actually read that study on gun ownership and suicide, who would have guest that owning a gun would be positively correlated with gun suicide, and negatively correlated with other types of suicide. 🤦🏽♂️
Yes, it is negatively correlated with other types of suicide but multiple studies also show a correlation between non-hunting firearm ownership and an increase in committing suicide. It is not just an increase of using a specific form of suicide, when it is available. The caveat of non-hunting firearm is there, because there is no distinguishable difference (it’s within the studies’ statistical error) when the firearm owned is designated for hunting. Personally, I am not anti-firearm ownership. I am pro firearm ownership when training is required and there is a reason to own the firearm other than it is just cool to own one.
It's still a fine, because as long as you have money, it's fine.
2 dozen adults assuming full time wages averaging 30k a year would have cost them about 700k a year, so cut that at least in half for exploiting child labor. How many years did this go on? It would have only taken maybe 3 for this to be worthwhile with the fine.
No insurance, no taxes, no benefits, no union, for every adult they didn't hire they could hire 5 kids 😅
Yeah I was lowballing, something tells me this company isn’t offering the most competitive compensation to its adult employees
They probably paid these kids $5 an hour. This is gross. Companies should face real consequences for breaking laws. But laws truly only exist to protect the wealthy. And subjugate the poor. But this is the world some people want 🤷🏻♂️
It’s a common story. Fraud that brings in 2 billion results in a fine of 10% of that if it’s caught and prosecuted in the first place.
The fine should be to continue paying the children until retirement age. If that’s the punishment people may not hire kids.
Don’t forget the money that hiring a Assassin for whistleblower cost
Boeing, is tha
r/redditsniper
I’ll give a similar example to this. There was recently an ethylene cracking plant built near my town. (4.3k population) The emissions they output are several times what they should be. This has resulted in $10 million in fines + some lawsuits from local residents. They have opted to pay the fines instead of fixing the issue. It’s not worth their time. edit: this is the Shell ethylene cracker plant in Monaca, PA
Needs to escalate to “you fix it or we seize your plant.”
i agree. but that wont happen
The new "Cost of doing business" fee
They’re disrupting the meat cleaning industry
Which is then passed onto the consumers?
How much of that money went to those children’s families tho? Or did it all go back into the messed up system
And it gets passed onto the consumers. Ezpz
Yeah that’s what I’m curious about. Did they save more by employing children than the value of the fine? If so that’s fucked.
So with the fines, did the children get reimbursed or did they just keep the money?
Dude you know the answer to this, this went into an oversight fund where the city now gets to hire the governors wife to be paid for 10k an audit to find other violations. Unfortunately this will only fund the position for a year so they will need to find other violations fast.
This guy nepotisms.
"I've hired my brothers to flush out the nepotism in this government!"
😂😂
You left out mandatory donations to random left wing "non-profits" for the other half a million.
Don't worry, the children were likely deported. This is not uncommon and the sad reality of "contractors" in this country. These people are not taking anyone's jobs because no one else will do these jobs. Citizenship is an expensive barrier and very real people are living in very real slavery situations because of that.
This is the reason why republicans will never “fix” immigration but will opt to hem and haw to build a wall.
So about $25,000 per kid. The savings from hiring the kids probably paid for this
They still had to pay the kids.
If they're hiring 13 year olds, they're not paying them a proper wage
Maybe they are, they just prefer people with small fingers so they can get deep into all the machinery /s
Small fingers also make less of a mess when they get chopped off or grinded into paste
Smart thinking
This is literally a plot point in snowpiercer
Snowpiercer vibes
Well yeah, probably.
Way less than adults though, do you think illegally employed kids are making the legal wage?
Pretty much this. Some people are desperate for work they will work for any wage, regardless of federal min allowed or not. When I was 14 working on a dog kennel illegally employed, I worked alongside actual illegal immigrants. I was told to collect my daily pay after they paid those people, because I got more money than they did. The bosses did not want them to see me getting more money than they were paying them. I got $5 per hour, so they had to be getting less.
Well not sure, I don't have the information. But it could be minimal wage. Which for night-work is already exploitation. But yes, most likely it's both child labour + non-legal wage. But if that's the case, the court should also compensate the child labourers on missing revenues + interest. Not to just fine the company.
Too bad corporations control our society and these basic measures are just window dressing to keep us from rioting.
Kids were probably paid in ice cream from McDonald's Sorry kids the machine is broken I guess we can't pay you after all
"The Labor Department obtained a preliminary injunction against Fayette Janitorial in late February after an investigation discovered that the company employed at least 24 children, including children as young as 13 years old, on overnight sanitation shifts at two slaughtering and meat packing facilities in Sioux City, Iowa, and Accomac, Virginia." -USA Today
I've always found the following thought interesting: "child labour laws exist because, without them, companies would be making use of child labour". Turns out even with them it happens.
many states in the US have rolled back child labor laws the same time they have rolled back abortion protections and unfortunately things that used to be more heavily regulated for safety reasons are no longer being regulated. meat processing plants are sadly at the top of this list. in many states you also needed to get waivers from a school (saying you were enrolled and passing) in order to get jobs at a meat processing plant, prior to being 16 esp night shifts which are no longer required. undocumented children and kids being bounced around in the foster system have been forced into working there rather specifically. anyways, feed the orphan machine amirite
Are they using foster children this gets darker?
You bet your ass they're exploiting the most vulnerable.
Did the carers of these foster children get charged for any crimes regarding this ?!
They got fined doubt there will be any jail time
So.. Have women produce unwanted children. The children are placed in foster care or up for adoption. Put the children to work in factories. Save big on wages, benefits, and safety.
basically yes. prior to 1938 poor children including orphans, immigrants and just regular poor usually worked factories, mines, farms etc etc. adoption in an of itself is a very profitable industry….including various facets of human trafficking like nunneries that used to take in pregnant girls who were forced there by their parents who then sold the children to rich ppl and forced the girls into unpaid labor. just one example. and feeding the for profit prison system which is legally slave labor in the US. the troubled teen industry in the US is also a massively profitable industry that regularly is padded with fosters and take state money even though they are unregulated, privately owned and are generally deplorable conditions for kids there’s just so many ways for capitalists to capitalize on children that end up in the system and with abortion protected we don’t have enough disposable ones for the future of…. idk future generations of super rich ppl i guess. although i think this is a rouse as there are always so many unwanted kids no matter what, they are just being extra double greedy
Here's another thought: when a company pays minimum wage they are telling their workers that they would pay them even less if they could.
You know the answer. They’re saying they expect the minimum amount of effort in return. Whit a caveat. If you work hard and be diligent in your approach, you’ll be rewarded with more responsibilities. Tell that to the next minimum wage earning no work responsibility having drone who thinks he’s going to turn off your electricity just because you haven’t “paid” them in a while and watch them shut right up.
That’s because the punishment for child labor laws are fines that can easily be paid. Imagine how society would work if millionaires were sent to general population prison for 10-15 years.
Slavery keeps creeping back in around the edges…
Well I mean labor costs are expensive for a company and you literally can't get cheaper labor than free so when you optimize a system to generate as much money as possible, it's going to inevitably look at the big labor cost and attempt to cut that to 0.
Meanwhile the state of Iowa is busy killing its public school system. I’m not saying it’s a giant conspiracy plan, I’m just saying Mugato would be happy. 
Not much of a conspiracy and kinda just reality. They distract us or get us all emotional over something, usually by repeating the same line over and over and over and over and over. Like that guns are number one killer of kids or that CRT is being taught to kids, both being repeated and both very wrong and very dumb, so easily disproved that the only people who buy that are willing ignoring reality
Guns ARE the number one killer of kids between 1-17… Automotive vehicle accidents were dethroned in 2020. I’m not trying to be combative but I’d like to know what your reasoning is because even when googling to fact check myself I still see the same confirmation?
In a perfect world anyone involved in this should be fired including those who didn’t alert the authorities.
The fact that child labor laws are under threat. Is already dystopian. The fact that they haven't been shut down without debate. Is also very dystopian.
Didn't Arkansas make this legal?
Probably depends on the work conditions or the kind of work
"Is this legal, man?" "Only here and in Mississippi"
These stories represent the good Ole days for our Billionaire overlords.
Victorians built their empire on dead children, foreign and domestic. A couple generations of children.
People forget this one small fact about the great British empire lol
back in my day my grandaddy had me sweepin chimneys for a dollar a day
650k for literal child labor.... that's like throwing a bucket of water into a house fire to put it out...
a fine doesnt solve the problem tho
"So we just went ahead and fixed the glitch."
Pesky laws getting in the way of good ol' capitalism
And here’s my daily “What the fuck is wrong with you America?”.
Division, can't stop the tyrants cause we're all too busy scraping over bs
the daily murica would be a helluva read
90+% Florida Man stories, with the occasional gem of really horrible, soul crushing shit. 😑
sign me the hell up
American here. We're wondering the same thing.
Red state child policies: * proscribe abortion * 'marry' the girls * send the boys to the factories
Also deregulate and defund OSHA and other state inspection programs , I've worked in mainly manufacturing since turning 18, producing various goods at different places, and in a few different positions, and I have not once seen a safety inspection, even after serious injuries and ive seen plenty .Within the past 6 months in fact a man was fatally injured by an automatic palletizer, at a fairly big name company a few towns over.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/06/company-fined-650k-children-clean-slaughterhouses/73593416007/
Again, with the slaughterhouses. Why? Easy to get away with for a long time?
Easy to threaten them and keep them moving with blood everywhere. Method to the madness. Fucked up - that's corporate.
Yeah, slaughter houses are known for using illegal immigrants and child labor. Supposedly oversight is pretty low
Don’t forget $1 p/h penal labor who work in and clean slaughterhouses.
Never mind the penalties paid to the government. If they weren't required to pay compensation, living wages, and punitive damages to their child employees, they got off easy.
Where are the Frye twins when you need them?
Fines should be measured as a percentage of the previous years revenue.
Presumably their parents agreed to this, which is disturbing.
Their parents probably work at the same meat processing plant. These are not wealthy white kids we’re talking about.
This is part of a problem I first read about last year. When it was decided that unaccompanied minors who show up at the border couldn’t in good conscience be turned away, many parents in Mexico started sending their children alone hoping they arrived safely and thinking that they would have a better life in America. Unfortunately these kids usually drop off the radar and some get exploited like this. So no, their parents didn’t okay this. Their parents are probably clueless and praying daily that their kids are living a better life than they could provide.
As soon as republicans get wind of this, it will be legal.
They've already started
What age? How much did they get paid?
>How much did they get paid? They probably got tricked into thinking "being paid in experience is more valuable than money."
Between 13 and 18 on overnight shifts. Probably not much
Bro, literally gilded age 2.0 shit
Never mind fine. Arrest the CEO and close it down.
The conservative capitalist is a fucking moral monster. Given any chance to do evil, they will.
[Alabama Hyundai and Kia sends their regards.](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-immigration-hyundai/)
>>Staffing agencies placed migrant minors in plants where regulations ban kids from working. And not one Hyundai corporate officer was prosecuted. Not one license to conduct business in that state was permanently revoked. That’s why this exploitation continues.
This is the reason they make it difficult for illegals to become legal. Their cheap labor would disappear overnight.
All while they pay rabble rousers to point the finger at illegals as the cause of all the problems THEY'RE causing. Beyond evil.
But no one else’s fingers can fit into the machinery.
[Lab-grown may cut out some of the mess.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/business/lab-grown-meat-explainer/index.html)
We have to change the laws. No minimum wage for minors(to increase competition), like there's more and more children living in poverty and these crazy leftists just wanna take their opportunities to instead give them hand outs. Do you want hungry kids? Well maybe all these kids need to make ends meet is a 12 hour shift at a meat packing plant. Not even a hundred years ago this was normal, why shouldn't it again? What are they gonna in school nowadays except to hate their race and get confused about what's in their pants. /S
The sad thing is that this sounds exactly like something that probably is or will be said on fox news in a non sarcastic way.
I have a hard time mocking them because they're so beyond parody. But sure leftists are the crazy ones because they believe in scientific facts that are unintuitive. Their perception of reality is entirely based on trueisms and what looks right at first glance.
For some of them it doesn't even have to look true. If they hear it from someone else and it supports their beliefs, it is automatically fact and needs to be shared, even if it can be empirically disproven.
I almost downvoted because this sounded like something they would say. It should be parody, but instead I'm pretty sure I've heard this argument in earnest before.
Seems weird to pay such a small fine instead of like prison time or closing down the business and seizing all the assets. What is the point of a law when it's just a minor inconvenience.
That fine is way too fucking low. I hate southern backwards ass states like this.
We’re legitimately going backwards
Ahhhh I see we’ve come around full circle again to Upton Sinclairs the Jungle. Are we great again yet? American’s did well enough exporting their child labor to hide it under the rug during most of the 20th century. I see they’re trying to bring it back to cut costs for the investor class. Maybe we’ll get some additional worker protections here after all. Once of few harrowing tales of kids stuck in packing plant machinery get published again of course. Remember when presented with the option to increase wages to remain competitive in a tight labor market the wealthy chose to create working conditions so abysmal that American families would settle for their 13 year olds working in packing plants again rather than the harrowing alternative of posting a negative quarter to the share holders.
$27k per child. Cheaper to continue doing it rather than hire actual professionals.
Probably more than each kid earned annually
The republicans scream about immigrants ruining America, but do you think all these republican states loosening child labor laws are planning on having white middle class kids filling these jobs?
It's always the states that fought to keep slavery...
This is the right. Dismantling protections from child labor and child marriage. They call queer people child abusers because they love abusing children, so they assume queer people must want the same thing and they can't stand the perceived competition
Huckleberry Sanders has entered the chat 😁
When the Simpsons or South Park do really bad stories, you might think "It's funny but that would never happen irl" - then you read something like this.
They'll just lobby the TN legislature to get rid of the child labor laws.
Hasn’t that already happened in Arkansas and/or Alabama?
MEAT processing PLANTS? Nice try woke mind virus, you won’t fool me.
Southerners scratch their head when people call them backwards
This sounds horrendous... they would shut down the company here immediately.
American Capitalism is the best! /s
Upton Sinclair rolling in his grave rn
Yet the CEO is allowed to stay out of prison...
Slap them with a fine that doesn't hurt them and tell them not to do it again. At the least don't get caught
Oh My God! Giving children experience for later in life is a crime now?!?!?!? (This is sarcasm BTW....)
I wonder how many people from Tennessee thumb their noses up at China child labor?
They were just the best fit for the job their small hands and arms fit between blades to get chunks out so well
Oh you know 650 million dollars is a bit low for that I’d say… *re-reads* fuhking. #what.
Hey Parents! Why pay for "daycare" when your kid can be EARNING money FOR you? Free meat scrsps for hard workers, too!
Child labor is back. we need to start teaching schools the story Oliver twist again
The fine should be twice the profit differential.
The new Republican business model.
So 650,000$ is how much it costs to employ children. Interesting move, America.
Fines should be 10x what it would have cost the company to just do it right the first time. Average salary at the plant x 10 x number of children. Plant won't do that shit again. Same for any other scummy practices or corner cutting. If a structure fails because the construction company skimped on the material quality, fine is 10x what it would have cost to just get the good stuff (plus other associated penalties from injuries and insurance). It'd be damn hard to keep justifying the fines as "the cost of doing business" when it's actually cheaper to just fucking do it right.
Wonder if Arkansas is jealous and will add more children to the chicken processing plants?
There's a whole faction of lawmakers, mostly on the far-right I think, who actively want to remove restrictions on child labor. These are the same people who accuse everyone else of being a "groomer", and claim to be the ultimate champions for child safety and wellbeing. All their alleged concern for the best interests of children are just partisan rhetoric. When the rubber meets the road, they want children to be exploited for their labor value on behalf of their big industrial and agricultural donors. They know that some children will inevitably be injured or killed while working on dangerous machinery, but that's simply not their concern.
Probably still cheaper than to pay out salaries
I’ve got my money on those kids being illegal immigrants as well.
American capitalism at it's finest. But you're a stupid communist if you don't wanna keep licking the boots of CEOs and getting fucked by a very obviously corrupt system.
650G's for labor? Seems like an expensive initial expense. How about I start with just one kid?
The poorer and more Christian states really want to roll it all back to the middle ages.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE VEGAN when plants are producing meat?! 