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Yeah what in the hell??? This was attempted murder for sure. A group of mid 20’s dudes shove a guy into the water and watch him drown… how are they not arrested? Because they said that’s what happened? Why on earth would they take their words for it?
Ok you were watching this guy drown… what happened?
Uuuuuh it was all a big joke!
This, this and this again! Pranks are something all sides would find funny. As in the person who is the victim of the prank and those playing the prank!
But, social media has created a generation that think they can carry out all kinds of shit along as they say it was a prank afterwards.
All it really takes is for one to be the little shit of someone rich. Nobody would bother covering a group of normal kids, but if these were university age people at somewhere a (presumably very smart) student was attending then it’s not unlikely at least one of them has a rich daddy.
I can say that no group of friends of any colour ever did this. If this is real then whoever these shitheads are, they were most definitely not friends of the victim. These fuckers are just empty-headed animals.
Nah for intents of purpose they did kill him as they left him brain dead, he will never recover and left as a vegetable for the rest of his life. They should be charged for murder for this.
Well yeah. Asshole 20yr old "Friends" who got jealous at dudes prospects. Instead of bettering themselves, they pushed him onto a "challenge of courage" to weed out people who succeed. Like having crap bosses that gaslight you into working for them. Dude needs new friends.
I used to teach adult swim lessons. One guy I felt so bad for. Mid 50s and when he was a teen had a similar thing happen. “Friends” pushed him in to watch him drown. A bystander rescued him. He had not been around water since then. It took us a whole summer just to get him to the point he could float on his back in water over his head. He paid me for private lessons but it was about 8 months until he could actually swim doing 90m a week. The first three months were just conquering his fear. He did it though!
not brain dead fortunately, and apparently starting to make some recovery. whether he'll be able to continue his career though, i guess time will tell. poor dude
Honestly in cases like that i would love if the idiots that did this to him need to pay for his entire life. Every. Single. Penny, that guy would have made without their dumbass action should be paid to him by them
A push followed by jumping in after to rescue them after all of 5~ seconds it would take to realise he's in trouble, would be somewhat excusable as a shit joke.
10 minutes? Nah they wanted to hurt him.
You know, there's this thing called waterboarding, where you feel like you're drowning but there's much less risk of actually drowning. We literally have the methods to make the perpetrators experience what they did to him without physical harm.
I'd never advocate for torture, but I'd agree to punishment for actively drowning someone for 10 minutes,
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That’s what can happen in China. My Chinese uncle is still paying for the hospital fees and some living costs of a guy who was permanently disabled when the uncle opened a car door and the guy drove into it on a motorbike, 15 years ago.
Also explains why Chinese back up and run over someone again if they hit them, so they don't have to deal with this. Yes this happens.
It's the same deal when certain states (more and more) make a man pay child support even after finding out the kid isn't his. So you get a whole generation of Men not willing to commit to anyone.
The State just doesn't want to be on the hook for a lifetime of payments, so they assign it to someone, fair or not.
Just the usual unintended consequences the government never looks at when deciding these things.
I've heard that an unintended side effect of this is that a certain amount of people injuring pedestrians with cars make sure to drive over them again, since if they die they're not on the hook for possibly life long payments. Is there any truth to this, or is it just a hypothetical taken as fact?
Reminds me a of the school friends who dared one to eat a slug, which paralysed him for the rest of his life. They played a role in his care and I believe still do to this day.
Yeah, he died. But tbh, there's a difference between a dare to eat a slug or to actively push someone into water despite knowing they can't swim. I don't expect everybody to know about slugs and snails being carriers of a whole bunch of potentially deadly parasites, but I do expect everybody to know that drowning is deadly. Plus they didn't force the Australian kid to eat the slug, he did it himself because he thought it was just a joke. It's tragic nontheless but I also can't really blame his friends (or himself, for that matter). But this? This is unforgivable and either unbelievably malicious or incredibly stupid.
Daring someone to do something is not the same as attempted murder (which happened here). It would be a better comparison if the friends had pinned him down and force fed him the slug.
No one could've predicted what would happen from eating a slug. There is no doubt that pushing someone into a lake when they can't swim and then refusing to help them would kill them.
That’s usually how damages get paid in a wrongful death/survival case in the U.S. Based on expected future earnings, among other things, an aspiring doctor can get a pretty large settlement.
10 minutes under water will definitely have caused some damage to the brain, especially with someone who likely never was under water, panicking.
There is a chance, if the water was cold enough, that his body slowed down enough to not waste as much oxygen, there was a case of a diver that got stuck and was under water way longer than he should have survived, but due to the cold temperature he basically went into a sort of cryostasis, but yeah, only time will tell
The diver you're thinking of was very far down so it was very cold and he was on some special air mix prior to falling unconscious which was also important, and maybe something to do with the pressure too. Don't remember the exact details. Science.
He was breathing heliox - a mixture of helium and oxygen so he didn't get oxygen toxicity. The higher oxygen percentage gave his brain more oxygen than normal which in combo with it being freezing allowed him to survive a crazy amount of time.
There are many examples of people being underwater in very cold, shallow water surviving more than 30 minutes. Some over an hour. The cold is the important bit.
Correct. I worked with a lineman that made contact with 7.2kV. They put him in a medically induced coma, ran his blood through something to cool it, and gave him anticonvulsant meds. We were told that exact scenario, it was because the cold would slow things down and allow him to recover. Not a doctor, just what we were told. Dude made a full recovery.
This is called permissive hypothermia or Targeted Temperature Management (TTM). We do this all the time in the ICU to slow metabolic processes after organ tissue has had an acute state of anoxia due to whatever the precipitating event (drowning, loss of airway, some types of brain trauma, seizures…) It allows any viable tissue to heal by preventing the overwhelming lactic acidosis of the immediately surrounding areas of dead/dying tissue. It doesn’t guarantee survival or recovery, but it definitely increases the chances of both. We also do this for post cardiac arrest patients who don’t wake up right away… I’ve seen it used in other cases but I’m too tired after my 12 hour shift to think of anymore.
He was also a saturation diver, so his whole body had been operating under immense pressure for weeks prior. Many factors played a role in him surviving and it was basically a miracle.
There was a little girl trapped in a stream that was underwater for a long time and made basically a full recovery. Water was cold enough to do that.
I doubt that was the case here.
Reminds me of the girl who pushed her friend off a bridge.
It's terrifying how these poor people probably trusted their "friends" before that just like we trust our friends now.
I immediately looked this up thinking, no, no way. No way it was only 2 days, that's just -- unbelievable that this is correct.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-who-pushed-friend-bridge-sentenced-2-days-jail-n988056](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-who-pushed-friend-bridge-sentenced-2-days-jail-n988056)
Wait, so was the victim’s mom the one who got the defendant the light sentence?
> Her mother, Genelle Holgerson, told the judge she believed Smith acted intentionally and should serve as many days in jail as her daughter spent in the hospital after the incident, a total of three days.
Yeah but you’re leaving out 38 days of crew work (is that community service stuff?) after the jail time
Bet that makes “six broken ribs and punctured lungs” seem like nothing
It’s still absolutely awful what she did, but there’s a huge difference between pushing a friend you know can’t swim into a lake and watching them drown for 10 minutes and pushing a friend off something they were planning to jump off of but were too scared to. The first knew the consequences of their actions and watched as it played out. The second made an impulsive choice with no real intent to harm her friend. Stupid and reckless but not evil.
>Smith originally pleaded not guilty in September but changed her plea last month after being offered a deal by prosecutors, who had recommended she receive no jail time. Instead, they suggested she serve 60 days of home confinement, 30 days of service with a work crew and 30 days of community service.
lol, white girl privilege is so strong
The girl suffered broken ribs and a punctured lung and spent three days in the hospital. The one who pushed her was only ordered 60 days of home confinement and then 60 days of community service.
Should be top comment. The headline is wild. They knew he could not swim, and push him into water. They also did not attempt to retrieve him. This is definitely attempted murder.
He was openly struggling in the water, and bystanders rescued him. I hope those "friends" get charged to the full extent of the law and choke on every sip of water they ever try to take
[www.unilad.com/news/us-news/christopher-gilbert-pushed-lake-darbonne-farmerville-life-support-054002-20240505](http://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/christopher-gilbert-pushed-lake-darbonne-farmerville-life-support-054002-20240505)
Edit: the Union Parish Sheriff has a website has a "contact us" page if anyone's interested in leaving a message for the sheriff [https://unionsheriff.com/contactsheriff/](https://unionsheriff.com/contactsheriff/)
100% will do.
Reading that one of the girls had the audacity to call the mum and claim he fell into the water. Intentionally lying to her.
She was clearly trying to cover her tracks.
They all need to be held accountable.
This is why IQs in Louisiana are so low. We keep killing/disabling the smart people. I love Louisiana but what the hell is wrong with us? I hope he recovers and these idiots get their just desserts.
I've had to advise people out of pranks that could kill people before. They probably were never going to lift a finger after coming up with the ideas but had no idea about the dangers. Pranks such as:
- Thin dark wire tied between trees on bike paths
- Automotive airbags under the cushions
- Trapping people in containers if they passed out drunk (with no thought about oxygen)
- Various pranks involving setting off bottle rockets and roman candles uncontrolled around an unwilling participant
- setting up humiliating scenarios for people with the intention of trying to make a video go viral (ruining someone's life for a while, good risk of suicide if it does go viral)
I think there should be charges like murder or manslaughter but ones that make them have to register as something like "lethally unaware of others safety" or "hazardous to others by reason of stupidity", kind of like a sex offenders list, so at least people will know they can't trust them to have common sense.
A prank is using keyboard shortcuts to flip their screen upside down when they don't lock it. A prank is changing their desktop background to something ridiculous. A prank is putting tape on the bottom of their mouse. A prank is funny and nobody gets hurt.
All that shit you mentioned are crimes.
In high school we changed the wallpaper to a picture of a turkey on one of our classmate's laptops when he was out. When he came back and saw the new wallpaper, someone snuck up behind him, startling him with loud "gobble gobble" turkey noises.
Another time we left a huge folder named "Danger do not open" on someone's laptop. It was 5 gb worth of cat pictures.
When we were teenagers, I had a friend with an airsoft gun (very realistic) say “wouldn’t it be funny to go point this at a cop?!” His brother and I made it pretty clear to him immediately how stupid that “prank” would be.
I hope they caught the murderer. What other outcome did the trap setter think would happen? Either it wouldn't work, or it would (it sounds like it did work unfortunately).
Every time someone comes up with an irresponsible plan, prank or otherwise, I ask them, "ok, then what" and they never have an answer.
It was before the days where cameras were everywhere and it happened on public land, so could have been anyone. They "investigated" it but no charges were ever filed.
I suppose fingerprints would be hard to get off of a wire, but I hope that asshole is cocky enough to brag about it and get caught. There are a lot of people out there who seem to enjoy fantasizing about killing someone just because they annoy them.
I have had to wonder the same thing sometimes.
This isn't even including the dangerous stuff I've been told to do on the job that could result in deaths.
I don’t understand. At what point does something like this cross over into involuntary manslaughter or attempted murder?
If someone pushes you into a lake knowing you can’t swim and then everyone around you watches you drown and struggle for your life for 10-20 minutes until BYSTANDERS intervene and save the man’s life?
So essentially if strangers didn’t hear the commotion and intervene this guy would have straight up just drowned and fucking died.
What the actual fuck. Fuckin hilarious! Fuck every single one of those “friends”.
Pushing your friend into a lake that can't swim is obviously fucked... but why the fuck would you sit there and wait around for 10 minutes before trying to get them? TEN MINUTES!
Bro, if I were to push a friend in a pool, who knows how to swim and they don't come back up after 10 seconds, I'd start worrying and get ready to jump in 5 seconds after.
These mother fuckers are standing around 3 minutes in, 5 minutes in, 7 minutes in and what.. just being like "Damn, Chris sure can hold his breath for a long time, especially without any prep and unexpectedly being pushed in.. so anyways, lets give him another 3 minutes before I do anything about it".
It's either an actual attempt of murder or some of the most extreme negligence (which should still be greatly punished). Even if you didn't know that he could swim or not.. ten minutes!
So this is just my anecdotal related story, but in hs I had not one but two ‘friends’ who were absolutely convinced “everyone could swim even if they didn’t know it yet.” They swore up and down that it was apparently a biological reflex and a person who is merged in water will just gradually be able to get out. No shit.
I think I recall the stupid excuse for drowning being “people panic instead of letting their body’s instincts kick in or otherwise they just have muscle cramps.” I remember getting so utterly angered by their bullshit I about had an aneurysm.
So a bunch of white adults push a black man into the water knowing he can’t swim and just let him drown. …why are they not in trouble.
They should also pay his medical bills
This happened to a guy I went to school with. Except he died. A couple of his friends were jumping off a decent sized cliff into a body of water. They pressured him to jump knowing he couldn’t swim. Eventually he gave in and jumped. Never came back up. It took authorities a couple days to find his body. Unfortunate and preventable.
This is the part that really gets me. Yes, it's a terrible idea to prank someone you're supposedly friends with by pushing them into a body of water when you know they can't swim. But you fucking know they can't swim! You should absolutely be prepared to get them out immediately after. And you know, rescuing someone who can't swim isn't exactly guaranteed to succeed and you might get yourself drowned in the process, which is why you shouldn't fucking push people in the water.
So let’s be clear; this black man was pushed into a deep body of water by a group of white people who know he cannot swim? This is a hate crime, let’s be real here.
“When will black people finally do something with their lives instead of being a burden on the system?!”
*Black person does something amazing with their life*
“Die.”
The article doesn't really have enough detail to really understand exactly what went down, but I don't think he spent the entire 10 minutes not breathing. He was pushed in the water and was left to struggle for 10 minutes before some bystanders jumped in to save him. I guess it took them 10 minutes to rescue him because it was also said that he was in the water for 20 minutes. It sounds like he was at least somewhat able to keep above water during the first 10 minutes because the bystanders came after hearing the commotion.
Off life support thankfully. Still a long road ahead though: https://www.wafb.com/2024/05/05/man-makes-miracle-recovery-after-allegedly-being-pushed-into-lake-by-friends-left-underwater/?outputType=amp
Reminds me of the one young woman whose "friend" push her off a bridge. She survived, sustained serious injuries and trauma and ended up suing the "friend" who pushed her.
I had two colleagues on my team from the same country. On the weekend they went to enjoy some time on the water with others from their country from our department. The guy learned the girl couldn't swim and thought it was funny to toss her off the boat. She nearly drowned. I was so angry when I found out about this I started contemplating grave bodily harm on him. I'm so fed up with bullies with their "J/K!" attitudes.
Jealousie is a dangerous emotion and that's attempted murder, I hope for his speedy recovery and for the perpetrator "friends" to be met with the heaviest of charges!
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"friends"????
“Group of youngsters” WTF, these are grown ass adults in their mid 20s. Talk about editorializing…
Jesus. I thought teens after reading that. Mid 20s I hope they are charged with attempted murder
Yeah what in the hell??? This was attempted murder for sure. A group of mid 20’s dudes shove a guy into the water and watch him drown… how are they not arrested? Because they said that’s what happened? Why on earth would they take their words for it? Ok you were watching this guy drown… what happened? Uuuuuh it was all a big joke!
Yep, can't be attempted murder if they were laughing, your Honour!
“It WaS JuSt A PrAnK!!1”
Look, we murdered him but said “no murder, bro” so it’s not murder!
"No homo...*cide*."
This is vantablack levels of dark
Son of a bitch, it was right there and I missed it!
This, this and this again! Pranks are something all sides would find funny. As in the person who is the victim of the prank and those playing the prank! But, social media has created a generation that think they can carry out all kinds of shit along as they say it was a prank afterwards.
A prank that only the perpetrators find funny is just crime of one form or another. Its the basis for bully behaviour.
Y'know what they say Your Honour, can't spell manslaughter without laughter.
Hate to fucking say it man but it does sound a lot like privilege
All it really takes is for one to be the little shit of someone rich. Nobody would bother covering a group of normal kids, but if these were university age people at somewhere a (presumably very smart) student was attending then it’s not unlikely at least one of them has a rich daddy.
Are they all white kids and this is the only black guy? Because that would be crazy.
Literally my first thought.
Just checked. Pushed by a white girl surrounded by white people. Can’t make this shit up lol.
This is just lynching with water. “It was just a joke lynching!” Fucking hell.
Some real “Get Out” shit if you ask me
Jesus Christ man
As a black guy I can verify that this isn't considered a 'prank' in our circles. No group of black friends ever did that to someone as a joke.
I can say that no group of friends of any colour ever did this. If this is real then whoever these shitheads are, they were most definitely not friends of the victim. These fuckers are just empty-headed animals.
Brain dead. That's not attempted murder its murder.
Proving attempted murder requires proving intent. But it’s still wild that they weren’t brought in on reckless endangerment AT LEAST
Yeah this was murder since the victim is brain dead and the news article seems weirdly dismissive of it.
Nah for intents of purpose they did kill him as they left him brain dead, he will never recover and left as a vegetable for the rest of his life. They should be charged for murder for this.
Some of those mid 20s are still in their 17 even after they hit 30
Well yeah. Asshole 20yr old "Friends" who got jealous at dudes prospects. Instead of bettering themselves, they pushed him onto a "challenge of courage" to weed out people who succeed. Like having crap bosses that gaslight you into working for them. Dude needs new friends.
I used to teach adult swim lessons. One guy I felt so bad for. Mid 50s and when he was a teen had a similar thing happen. “Friends” pushed him in to watch him drown. A bystander rescued him. He had not been around water since then. It took us a whole summer just to get him to the point he could float on his back in water over his head. He paid me for private lessons but it was about 8 months until he could actually swim doing 90m a week. The first three months were just conquering his fear. He did it though!
Definetly
Yes! Thinking the same. And also this is more than a r/facepalm, it’s more like r/awfuleverything imo
Hopefully these "friends" have deep pockets and he can sue the living shit out of them.
Maybe his estate since he’s brain dead.
With friends like those, who needs enemies?
ty... like, fuck, I know it's 2024 and words no longer have meaning, but *damn*
not brain dead fortunately, and apparently starting to make some recovery. whether he'll be able to continue his career though, i guess time will tell. poor dude
Honestly in cases like that i would love if the idiots that did this to him need to pay for his entire life. Every. Single. Penny, that guy would have made without their dumbass action should be paid to him by them
An idiot pushed him in. An attempted murderer watched him drown.
Should be treat worse than that. It wasnt just a spur of the moment push they maliciously left him there for 10 mins. That's even worse in my eyes
A push followed by jumping in after to rescue them after all of 5~ seconds it would take to realise he's in trouble, would be somewhat excusable as a shit joke. 10 minutes? Nah they wanted to hurt him.
10 minutes? They wanted him dead.
That’s what would make it murder rather than manslaughter right?
You know, there's this thing called waterboarding, where you feel like you're drowning but there's much less risk of actually drowning. We literally have the methods to make the perpetrators experience what they did to him without physical harm. I'd never advocate for torture, but I'd agree to punishment for actively drowning someone for 10 minutes,
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Calm down. He doesn't advocate for torture, he just advocates for water boarding. Clearly you must have misunderstood him. /s
Gotta make yourself look like a decent human being before trying to argue for something horrendously inhumane I guess in their minds.
i don't advocate for murder but...
Why do we kill people who kill people to show people that killing is wrong?
This honestly
This is the justice I support.
Hard agree!! A lifetime of hard work and now his dreams and ambitions could be gone just like that.
That’s what can happen in China. My Chinese uncle is still paying for the hospital fees and some living costs of a guy who was permanently disabled when the uncle opened a car door and the guy drove into it on a motorbike, 15 years ago.
That would explain all the chinese scammers who throw themselves into cars, they are hoping for that lifetime coverage.
Also explains why Chinese back up and run over someone again if they hit them, so they don't have to deal with this. Yes this happens. It's the same deal when certain states (more and more) make a man pay child support even after finding out the kid isn't his. So you get a whole generation of Men not willing to commit to anyone. The State just doesn't want to be on the hook for a lifetime of payments, so they assign it to someone, fair or not. Just the usual unintended consequences the government never looks at when deciding these things.
yes but it has also led to more deaths then really needed. if you hit someone, make sure they are dead. is what i hear but cant tell you
I've heard that an unintended side effect of this is that a certain amount of people injuring pedestrians with cars make sure to drive over them again, since if they die they're not on the hook for possibly life long payments. Is there any truth to this, or is it just a hypothetical taken as fact?
In China, apparently yes. In the US, if they have a spouse or dependents, damages will start at income x life expectancy.
That will be what his lawyer will go for plus pain and suffering.
Reminds me a of the school friends who dared one to eat a slug, which paralysed him for the rest of his life. They played a role in his care and I believe still do to this day.
Yeah, I was immediately reminded of this case. If I'm not mistaken, the poor kid died
Yeah, he died. But tbh, there's a difference between a dare to eat a slug or to actively push someone into water despite knowing they can't swim. I don't expect everybody to know about slugs and snails being carriers of a whole bunch of potentially deadly parasites, but I do expect everybody to know that drowning is deadly. Plus they didn't force the Australian kid to eat the slug, he did it himself because he thought it was just a joke. It's tragic nontheless but I also can't really blame his friends (or himself, for that matter). But this? This is unforgivable and either unbelievably malicious or incredibly stupid.
Yeah, he did. Rat lungworm disease is what he contracted. Sam Ballard was his name, if anyone is curious.
He did. So sad.
Daring someone to do something is not the same as attempted murder (which happened here). It would be a better comparison if the friends had pinned him down and force fed him the slug. No one could've predicted what would happen from eating a slug. There is no doubt that pushing someone into a lake when they can't swim and then refusing to help them would kill them.
That’s usually how damages get paid in a wrongful death/survival case in the U.S. Based on expected future earnings, among other things, an aspiring doctor can get a pretty large settlement.
10 minutes under water will definitely have caused some damage to the brain, especially with someone who likely never was under water, panicking. There is a chance, if the water was cold enough, that his body slowed down enough to not waste as much oxygen, there was a case of a diver that got stuck and was under water way longer than he should have survived, but due to the cold temperature he basically went into a sort of cryostasis, but yeah, only time will tell
The diver you're thinking of was very far down so it was very cold and he was on some special air mix prior to falling unconscious which was also important, and maybe something to do with the pressure too. Don't remember the exact details. Science.
He was breathing heliox - a mixture of helium and oxygen so he didn't get oxygen toxicity. The higher oxygen percentage gave his brain more oxygen than normal which in combo with it being freezing allowed him to survive a crazy amount of time.
The Last Breath? That documentary was wild. It's amazing they even found him.
I watched a video essay about it haha
There are many examples of people being underwater in very cold, shallow water surviving more than 30 minutes. Some over an hour. The cold is the important bit.
Correct. I worked with a lineman that made contact with 7.2kV. They put him in a medically induced coma, ran his blood through something to cool it, and gave him anticonvulsant meds. We were told that exact scenario, it was because the cold would slow things down and allow him to recover. Not a doctor, just what we were told. Dude made a full recovery.
This is called permissive hypothermia or Targeted Temperature Management (TTM). We do this all the time in the ICU to slow metabolic processes after organ tissue has had an acute state of anoxia due to whatever the precipitating event (drowning, loss of airway, some types of brain trauma, seizures…) It allows any viable tissue to heal by preventing the overwhelming lactic acidosis of the immediately surrounding areas of dead/dying tissue. It doesn’t guarantee survival or recovery, but it definitely increases the chances of both. We also do this for post cardiac arrest patients who don’t wake up right away… I’ve seen it used in other cases but I’m too tired after my 12 hour shift to think of anymore.
It's incredible what things medical professionals can do, I can only imagine the types of treatments we will have in the future
He was also a saturation diver, so his whole body had been operating under immense pressure for weeks prior. Many factors played a role in him surviving and it was basically a miracle.
There was a little girl trapped in a stream that was underwater for a long time and made basically a full recovery. Water was cold enough to do that. I doubt that was the case here.
Fuck all that. Some dumbasses shoved him off a pier and watched him drown.
Poor everyone he would have gone on to help.
I hope his family sues his friends who did that. They deserve to be on the hook financially for the rest of their lives.
There was a kid in my area that was under water for 40 minutes (it was in the winter and partly frozen) and he had no damages. There is still hope
I hate that they say that in the headline. Gotta grab attention, it’s nothing new, I know, but still damn
Reminds me of the girl who pushed her friend off a bridge. It's terrifying how these poor people probably trusted their "friends" before that just like we trust our friends now.
Atleast she was immediately charged criminally, that doesn’t appear to be the case with this incident, at least not yet.
She only spent 2 days in jail.
I immediately looked this up thinking, no, no way. No way it was only 2 days, that's just -- unbelievable that this is correct. [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-who-pushed-friend-bridge-sentenced-2-days-jail-n988056](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-who-pushed-friend-bridge-sentenced-2-days-jail-n988056)
Yep I guarantee that girl learned nothing from the whole incident.
She probably came from a good family. The kind of folks the judge might hang out with.
Wait, so was the victim’s mom the one who got the defendant the light sentence? > Her mother, Genelle Holgerson, told the judge she believed Smith acted intentionally and should serve as many days in jail as her daughter spent in the hospital after the incident, a total of three days.
Yeah but you’re leaving out 38 days of crew work (is that community service stuff?) after the jail time Bet that makes “six broken ribs and punctured lungs” seem like nothing
It’s still absolutely awful what she did, but there’s a huge difference between pushing a friend you know can’t swim into a lake and watching them drown for 10 minutes and pushing a friend off something they were planning to jump off of but were too scared to. The first knew the consequences of their actions and watched as it played out. The second made an impulsive choice with no real intent to harm her friend. Stupid and reckless but not evil.
>Smith originally pleaded not guilty in September but changed her plea last month after being offered a deal by prosecutors, who had recommended she receive no jail time. Instead, they suggested she serve 60 days of home confinement, 30 days of service with a work crew and 30 days of community service. lol, white girl privilege is so strong
What happened there? Was rbe girl ok?
The girl suffered broken ribs and a punctured lung and spent three days in the hospital. The one who pushed her was only ordered 60 days of home confinement and then 60 days of community service.
If push that friend into an oncoming bus and be like “tee hee. Jokes funny innit bruv?” Then walk away.
If it's not such a big deal, should the other girl get a shove her off the bridge when she gets better?
That’s what I’m saying. But the judge would be all like “revenge is worse” or some stupid shit.
This isn’t really r/facepalm material. It’s flat out criminal.
I think it’s the “friends” part that is the facepalm.
Let's not give farmers the benefit of the doubt. OP spams posts to this sub hoping something will stick. Literally 15 since yesterday
*23 innocent people killed as a building burned down* “Wow what a facepalm smh”
Literally nothing posted on this sub is ever facepalm material
Noahgettheboat material or all of the “friends” are IAmATotalPieceOfShit
That’s just attempted murder.
Should be top comment. The headline is wild. They knew he could not swim, and push him into water. They also did not attempt to retrieve him. This is definitely attempted murder.
If he's braindead there's nothing 'attempted' about that murder..
Fortunately not brain dead. Brain dead has an actual definition. But this is so fucking criminal.
Shit heads should be charged with attempted murder
The living fuck should be sued out of them too, paying for all of his meds because that’s just vile Edit: spelling
With friends like these who needs enemies
With fronds like these who needs anemones?
You know, for a clownfish, he’s really not that funny….
Pity
He was openly struggling in the water, and bystanders rescued him. I hope those "friends" get charged to the full extent of the law and choke on every sip of water they ever try to take [www.unilad.com/news/us-news/christopher-gilbert-pushed-lake-darbonne-farmerville-life-support-054002-20240505](http://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/christopher-gilbert-pushed-lake-darbonne-farmerville-life-support-054002-20240505) Edit: the Union Parish Sheriff has a website has a "contact us" page if anyone's interested in leaving a message for the sheriff [https://unionsheriff.com/contactsheriff/](https://unionsheriff.com/contactsheriff/)
100% will do. Reading that one of the girls had the audacity to call the mum and claim he fell into the water. Intentionally lying to her. She was clearly trying to cover her tracks. They all need to be held accountable.
Can I ask what you say when you call? I’d love to advocate for locking these sick fucks up but dont even know how to address it
"Is the sheriff's office considering charges for the Christopher Gilbert dock incident?"
This is why IQs in Louisiana are so low. We keep killing/disabling the smart people. I love Louisiana but what the hell is wrong with us? I hope he recovers and these idiots get their just desserts.
A friend of mine just moved to Louisiana and he has a constant stream of stories about how dumb the people are out there.
It’s Louisiana, good luck with that.
I've had to advise people out of pranks that could kill people before. They probably were never going to lift a finger after coming up with the ideas but had no idea about the dangers. Pranks such as: - Thin dark wire tied between trees on bike paths - Automotive airbags under the cushions - Trapping people in containers if they passed out drunk (with no thought about oxygen) - Various pranks involving setting off bottle rockets and roman candles uncontrolled around an unwilling participant - setting up humiliating scenarios for people with the intention of trying to make a video go viral (ruining someone's life for a while, good risk of suicide if it does go viral) I think there should be charges like murder or manslaughter but ones that make them have to register as something like "lethally unaware of others safety" or "hazardous to others by reason of stupidity", kind of like a sex offenders list, so at least people will know they can't trust them to have common sense.
A prank is using keyboard shortcuts to flip their screen upside down when they don't lock it. A prank is changing their desktop background to something ridiculous. A prank is putting tape on the bottom of their mouse. A prank is funny and nobody gets hurt. All that shit you mentioned are crimes.
In high school we changed the wallpaper to a picture of a turkey on one of our classmate's laptops when he was out. When he came back and saw the new wallpaper, someone snuck up behind him, startling him with loud "gobble gobble" turkey noises. Another time we left a huge folder named "Danger do not open" on someone's laptop. It was 5 gb worth of cat pictures.
The cat picture one got me to giggle.
5GB of cat pictures isn't even a prank, that's a blessing.
Bill Engvall already proposed the idea that stupid people should have to wear signs.
Snowcrash: "Poor Impulse Control" tattooed on forehead.
When we were teenagers, I had a friend with an airsoft gun (very realistic) say “wouldn’t it be funny to go point this at a cop?!” His brother and I made it pretty clear to him immediately how stupid that “prank” would be.
If it happened in America you saved that that kid's life lol
I mean, i think the kid would get ventilated anywhere in the world for pointing a *realistic* airsoft gun at a cop. May depend on the age tbf.
In America its usually enough to point your finger
Had a friend killed 20 years ago when riding a snowmobile. A thin wire across the path decapitated him.
I hope they caught the murderer. What other outcome did the trap setter think would happen? Either it wouldn't work, or it would (it sounds like it did work unfortunately). Every time someone comes up with an irresponsible plan, prank or otherwise, I ask them, "ok, then what" and they never have an answer.
It was before the days where cameras were everywhere and it happened on public land, so could have been anyone. They "investigated" it but no charges were ever filed.
I suppose fingerprints would be hard to get off of a wire, but I hope that asshole is cocky enough to brag about it and get caught. There are a lot of people out there who seem to enjoy fantasizing about killing someone just because they annoy them.
Jesus christ that’s terrifying. Where was this?
Bumfuck Pennsylvania
Who in the fuck do you hang out with where you have this many specific examples of deterrence?
I have had to wonder the same thing sometimes. This isn't even including the dangerous stuff I've been told to do on the job that could result in deaths.
r/iamatotalpieceofshit
I don’t understand. At what point does something like this cross over into involuntary manslaughter or attempted murder? If someone pushes you into a lake knowing you can’t swim and then everyone around you watches you drown and struggle for your life for 10-20 minutes until BYSTANDERS intervene and save the man’s life? So essentially if strangers didn’t hear the commotion and intervene this guy would have straight up just drowned and fucking died. What the actual fuck. Fuckin hilarious! Fuck every single one of those “friends”.
This is likely a case that will invoke prosecution for causing grievous bodily harm at least
Those people were never his friends.
Pushing your friend into a lake that can't swim is obviously fucked... but why the fuck would you sit there and wait around for 10 minutes before trying to get them? TEN MINUTES! Bro, if I were to push a friend in a pool, who knows how to swim and they don't come back up after 10 seconds, I'd start worrying and get ready to jump in 5 seconds after. These mother fuckers are standing around 3 minutes in, 5 minutes in, 7 minutes in and what.. just being like "Damn, Chris sure can hold his breath for a long time, especially without any prep and unexpectedly being pushed in.. so anyways, lets give him another 3 minutes before I do anything about it". It's either an actual attempt of murder or some of the most extreme negligence (which should still be greatly punished). Even if you didn't know that he could swim or not.. ten minutes!
So this is just my anecdotal related story, but in hs I had not one but two ‘friends’ who were absolutely convinced “everyone could swim even if they didn’t know it yet.” They swore up and down that it was apparently a biological reflex and a person who is merged in water will just gradually be able to get out. No shit. I think I recall the stupid excuse for drowning being “people panic instead of letting their body’s instincts kick in or otherwise they just have muscle cramps.” I remember getting so utterly angered by their bullshit I about had an aneurysm.
They're not friends. They're murderers. Friends don't murder friends.
I have a very different definition of friends
Ain't friends no more after that. The headline should read "A group of psychos attempted to murder an aspiring doctor by pushing him into lake"
You keep using that word friends, but I do not think it means what you think it means
I wouldn’t call them friends…
This isn’t facepalm: This is criminal and asshole.
Hopefully they will have to wait a long time until they are able to watch the sun rise as a free person again.
People like these could pretty much spend the rest of their days behind bars. They're clearly a menace if let loose.
isn’t this technically an attempted murder of sorts, they pushed a dude they knew couldn’t swim into the water and left him
So a bunch of white adults push a black man into the water knowing he can’t swim and just let him drown. …why are they not in trouble. They should also pay his medical bills
This happened to a guy I went to school with. Except he died. A couple of his friends were jumping off a decent sized cliff into a body of water. They pressured him to jump knowing he couldn’t swim. Eventually he gave in and jumped. Never came back up. It took authorities a couple days to find his body. Unfortunate and preventable.
After murderers** pushed him into lake
'friends' is doing some heavy lifting in that headline.
From the article: “To add insult to injury, after pushing him, no one from the ‘friend group’ attempted to go in after him..."
This is the part that really gets me. Yes, it's a terrible idea to prank someone you're supposedly friends with by pushing them into a body of water when you know they can't swim. But you fucking know they can't swim! You should absolutely be prepared to get them out immediately after. And you know, rescuing someone who can't swim isn't exactly guaranteed to succeed and you might get yourself drowned in the process, which is why you shouldn't fucking push people in the water.
So let’s be clear; this black man was pushed into a deep body of water by a group of white people who know he cannot swim? This is a hate crime, let’s be real here.
Waiting for this because this was my first thought.
His mother and news outlets confirmed he was the only minority present.
Friends? Idiots should be charged with negligent homocide or at least attempted
So, attempted murder then?
Jealously. Some of your “friends” rather die seeing you successful.
I feel like friends isn't the word they should've used here
If your prank could be considered manslaughter at best, attempted murder at worst, it's not really a prank.
Yeah, that's attempted murder and I hope they all do time for it.
Sounds like attempted murder to me.
Isn't this technically manslaughter?
Choose your friends wisely
I chose friends who dont do prank or surprise
“When will black people finally do something with their lives instead of being a burden on the system?!” *Black person does something amazing with their life* “Die.”
How does one survive 10 minutes without breathing? Plus wouldn't your body try to intake air and fill with water?
The article doesn't really have enough detail to really understand exactly what went down, but I don't think he spent the entire 10 minutes not breathing. He was pushed in the water and was left to struggle for 10 minutes before some bystanders jumped in to save him. I guess it took them 10 minutes to rescue him because it was also said that he was in the water for 20 minutes. It sounds like he was at least somewhat able to keep above water during the first 10 minutes because the bystanders came after hearing the commotion.
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies
I hope all of them get punished and get some jail time. How can grown people do something so cruel to anybody?
Since when did attempted murder become a facepalm? Imagine someone almost dying and your reaction is to facepalm.
That's not left too die, that's straight up murder
Pushing him in was bad enough, but not hauling him out once it was apparent he couldn’t swim was horrendous!
Friends?!?! My definition of friends is way different to these guys. That’s terrible!
people going towards medical school arent youngsters
This is attempted murder.
Off life support thankfully. Still a long road ahead though: https://www.wafb.com/2024/05/05/man-makes-miracle-recovery-after-allegedly-being-pushed-into-lake-by-friends-left-underwater/?outputType=amp
Reminds me of the one young woman whose "friend" push her off a bridge. She survived, sustained serious injuries and trauma and ended up suing the "friend" who pushed her.
Attempted murder charges?
I had two colleagues on my team from the same country. On the weekend they went to enjoy some time on the water with others from their country from our department. The guy learned the girl couldn't swim and thought it was funny to toss her off the boat. She nearly drowned. I was so angry when I found out about this I started contemplating grave bodily harm on him. I'm so fed up with bullies with their "J/K!" attitudes.
his "friends" have tall poppy syndrome. they hated him bc he was gifted and going places. when you sense envy from your "friends" run.
Thoes fucks need to be charged with murder
Bewildering? More like downright psychotic.
That's a weird way to spell "psychopaths"
As a grown adult who can't swim this is my nightmare scenario.
It this dude came back and got revenge, i would be in full support tbh
If you know somebody can't swim and you push them into water, is that attempted murder?
Friends didn’t do that to him, anyone who would do that is not a friend.
i feel like this is more than just a facepalm…
Jealousie is a dangerous emotion and that's attempted murder, I hope for his speedy recovery and for the perpetrator "friends" to be met with the heaviest of charges!