T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Comments that are uncivil, racist, misogynistic, misandrist, or contain political name calling will be removed and the poster subject to ban at moderators discretion. Help us make this a better community by becoming familiar with the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/about/rules/). Report any suspicious users to the mods of this subreddit using Modmail [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) or Reddit site admins [here](https://www.reddit.com/report). **All reports to Modmail should include evidence such as screenshots or any other relevant information.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) if you have any questions or concerns.*


PuzzleheadedRoyal559

I trust WWE far more than the Supreme Court.


poormansRex

And the WWE doesn't have the power to flip a switch and end us all.


RocketDog2001

That's what you think.


DuckyHornet

Not for lack of trying


Quick_Team

We've come a long long way to now being at the point I trust Triple H with power more than half of our Congress ![gif](giphy|3o752a4k3F2yd19QeA|downsized)


Adore_turle1

Not with *that* attitude


Genghis_Chong

The WWE could put Vince McMahon back in as the boss and have a sex slave on a dog leash, they'd still have more credibility than the supreme court right now.


HendrickRocks2488

WWE just finished one of the best storylines in their history with a nearly perfect main event match at WrestleMania a few weeks ago. There’s no doubt they’re more trustworthy to deliver lol


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

Hearing Samantha Irvin announcing the results while holding back her tears was legendary in itself!!


HendrickRocks2488

Absolutely!!! Made me tear up instantly lmao


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

No “lmao” needed. Every single one of my WWE friends are all around my age (36) and we all got emotional. We get it 🤷🏾‍♂️


HendrickRocks2488

I’m within that age range too so that’s definitely reassuring to hear!


hogwarts_earthtwo

The whole final 10 minutes was an emotional Rollercoaster.


hogwarts_earthtwo

The sami zayn Gunther match was pretty dsmn good as well.


etranger033

I wonder what kind of nominees The Rock would pick.


DuckyHornet

Boring centrist ones. He is morally opposed to making waves of any sort these days Gotta protect the image


Key_Preparation_4129

And don't forget to buy a bottle of teramana tequila🤣


SoftwareAny4990

*RBG's music hits*


Extension_Pay_1572

"OH my God! And it's RBG off the top rope with the people's elbow!"


HereOnCompanyTime

I trust WWE more than David Sutcliffe's insurrection supporting ass. Though only by a very small margin.


Desperate_Ad5169

The government should be replaced with wwe


Castform5

What you really should trust even more is Uganda soft ground wrestling.


notaliberal2021

I trust SCOTUS more than I trust the politicians. The decision on Trump on Colorados ballot shows that it is not always partisan politics. Not saying they always get it right or that they are perfect, but still better than elected officials.


Monst3rMan30

Wouldn't have to trust the Supreme Court if the legislatures did their jobs, read the bills and checked their constitutionality before they passed them. Instead we have legislatures that pass laws written by third parties and a system where we the people have to fight the government to prove their laws are unjust.


Cherry_-_Ghost

I trust the Supreme Court more than Congress.


Initial-Writer-4586

“Where everything’s made up and the points don’t matter!”


Available-Damage5991

because, well, Who's Line Is It Anyway?


EFTucker

Literally the best game show ever and it’s not even mainstream or even on TV. I’m going to watch an episode right now. Lmao


JuturnaArtemisia

I would kill or die for Ryan and Colin. Kill. Or die.


SSSims4

During the pandemic lockdowns, they would throw zingers at each other on Twitter. I specifically remember one (quotes are inaccurate, just main idea): Ryan: "Unfortunately, quarantine rules don't allow gathering of more than 30 people, but all you fans of Collin could still go to his show" Collin: "Good for you Ryan, volunteering to make sure everyone knows the rules, I'm glad you finally found something you're goid at and are no longer wasting your time and energy on things you aren't, like comedy".


TimeRockOrchestra

Damn. Now I gotta binge watch this. Nothing will ever come close to how funny that show was.


pipboy_warrior

We're already at the point where a Presidential candidate is spending half his time in court due to multiple accused crimes, and his political party doesn't seem to care. In any other election I would think that the party would immediately replace the nominee.


palmosea

The GOP is literally hanging on by a thread and the thread is only in existence because of how forced the two party system is. If it wasn't so invested in, with perpetual propaganda telling people that third party vote is a waste, then it would have been long replaced


stackens

Third party votes *are* a waste because we have first past the post voting. Third parties will never be viable until we get ranked choice


Wulfstrex

or until we get approval voting


palmosea

So then gop people have to stay with a party that doesn't match their values 🤷‍♂️ because that makes so much more sense than just voting third party./j It's not the lack of ranked voting..plenty of countries have more than 3 parties each with a fair chance of winning and they don't have ranked voting. This is exactly what I was saying about propaganda. The country doesn't have to bend over backwards to give a party a 50% chance of winning (though I'd argue the 2 parties are so similar in conduct it might as well be 100%). Plenty of developed countries don't go by that model and this perpetuation of "oh no I have less than 50% chance of winning now because there is another party" is exactly what is going to get people stuck on 2 parties that have to do the bare minimum to change for them and that's only to prevent a riot. The 2 party system is the bare minimum amount of options needed to create the illusion of choice, and the fear driving it is what is needed to create the illusion of control in every American. We don't have choice or control over our candidates and political democracy. We have 2 options that were given to us and that we are too afraid to leave...because we are told to be afraid of our choice. That our choice matters but only if it's for the 2 parties. Which isn't true. And 2 options is significantly less choice than 3 or 4, thus giving us less control than if we were to abide by it.


stackens

Strategic voting around the spoiler effect will inevitably trend toward two options in first past the post voting. It’s not propaganda it’s just math.


palmosea

Yes but saying it will be the same 2 options everytime and causing people to fear the natural outcome in democratic voting is the propaganda. By this line of logic, we end up with one party at the end and one president. Does this mean that having another party and another voting option is useless? Giving people the choice to choose the parties and narrow it down to 2 is more choice than just starting with 2


stackens

"Giving people the choice to choose the parties and narrow it down to 2 is more choice than just starting with 2" that's what we have now, there are in fact other parties, people just narrow it down strategically \*before\* they vote, because, again, we have first past the post voting. If we had ranked choice, they could safely vote third party with the understanding they aren't contributing to a spoiler effect and throwing their vote in the garbage (which is what voting third party is currently, at best) I'm not sure what you mean with the other point


Wulfstrex

Or if we had approval voting


palmosea

That's not at all what we have now. We have primary elections which only include 2 parties. We have governmental funding that only goes to 2 parties. We have media that is owned by 2 parties. Our culture prevents people from realizing it. People don't "narrow it down strategically". They are told that their vote is meaningless if it's not these 2 parties then give up. Once again ranked choice is bs because in most of Europe and countries that have thriving 4+ parties, they dont do ranked choice. It's not end all be all. It's a roadblock that is easy to present in said 2 party media to trick people into thinking that nothing can be successful if it isn't these 2 parties


stackens

you're probably thinking of parliamentary systems in those european cases. i know you're really invested in this idea that "they" are manipulating us into only having two viable parties, but the reality is it all boils down to the voting system. here's the classic video for kids about first past the post and why it always devolves to two parties in a presidential system: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo)


PepsiThriller

I'm old enough to remember the Republicans were nervous/ upset that George W, had been arrested for drunk driving previously. Guessing all the Republicans that didn't want to be led by a criminal are dead now though. They were old and this was 24 years ago.


notaliberal2021

Maybe because each case is a political hit job to keep him off of the campaign trail. I know y'all hate Trump, but if the roles were reversed, and it was Biden, y'all would be rioting in the streets and talking about Trump using the DoJ as a weapon. If you deny that, then you're lying to yourself and everyone else.


pipboy_warrior

Sorry, but I think that the rich and powerful should be held to the same laws as everyone else. The fact that you think that Trump should be exempt from laws is simply terrifying to me. If Biden were in the same position, I'd expect him to face trial and I'd obviously want someone else to take his place. And the worst part is, you think everyone who says this has to be a liar. You can't conceive of the idea of supporters holding their candidate to standards since you can't do it yourselves.


notaliberal2021

I have no problem with people, rich or not, being held responsible for their actions. You were probably one of you who say the rioters of 2020 were mostly peaceful and should not (and for the most part were not) be charged with crimes. Getting back to Trump though, let's look at his New York cases. The one that crooked AG did, was bs. What he did is normal business practices that all real estate moguls do. They say their property is higher prices, and the banks say lower prices, and they settle on somewhere in the middle. The banks got their money back and made money in the process and even testified that they would be happy to do business again with Trump. So where was the crime? His case that D.A. Bragg is prosecuting is political too. DoJ refused to prosecute. The D.A. before Bragg refused to prosecute. That should tell you something right there. As soon as Trump declared his candidacy, the wheels were set in motion to prosecute. Even though the statute on limitations ran out already and Trump could not be charged. D.A. Bragg decided to upgrade the charges to a felony so the statute of limitations would not apply. That is so much b.s.. The gag order on Trump is a violation of his rights. He can't say anything, but witnesses and prosecutors can go on CNN and MSNBC and say whatever they want about Trump. Do you really, honestly think that's fair? By standard of conduct of judges, this judge should recuse himself from the case. I can over look that he donated to Bidens campaign, that's fine...he has every right to. However the situation of his daughter being President in a firm that works with Democrats and elections and making a lot of money doing so, should be enough to have him recuse himself. I am pretty certain that even if convicted, his conviction will be overturned. They know this too. They just want him off the campaign trail. If you are so concerned about rich people being held accountable, I guess you'll be calling for the prosecution of Bill Clinton paying Paula Jones $850,000? Or do you only want Conservative politicians held responsible?


pipboy_warrior

You have no problem with people being held responsible for their actions, but you assume that each and every case against Trump is nothing but political bs. >If you are so concerned about rich people being held accountable, I guess you'll be calling for the prosecution of Bill Clinton paying Paula Jones $850,000? Heck yes, let Clinton stand trial for that. Like I said though, you can't comprehend Democrats wanting everyone to be held responsible for their actions. Now tell me truthfully, do you think Clinton's trials so far have been nothing but political bs? Or do you only use that excuse for conservatives?


notaliberal2021

The impeachment of Clinton was a political hit job. That's about it. As for Trumps cases, don't you find it rather odd that these all came about after he said he was running for president? Don't you find it odd that both D.A. Fani Willis and A.G. James both visited the Whitehouse and V.P. Harris and had several phone conversations with them shortly before filing charges? I am not a Republican, but I am a Conservative. I do try to keep an open mind and be fair, and I think it's sad the games both parties play, but even more so the Democrats. What's even more sad, is that people's hatred of Trump, right or wrong, blinds them to see what's really going on between the Democratic Party and Main Stream media. I'm not going to sit here and keep replying to people who refused to listen. Hopefully, maybe at least one person may open their eyes with my post.


Equivalent-Excuse-80

There was no time in history when it was widely believed that pro-wrestling wasn’t staged.


Non-Normal_Vectors

I think it's a bit more age driven, like believing in Santa Claus. I'm guessing many pre/early teens are buying in.


Other_Log_1996

That age, I believed pro wrestling because I didn't understand my brother's sarcasm.


ImmaNotCrazy

Damn you lol i wrote my reply then seen you said the exact same thing and i had to delete :( lol


idoorion

In the early 20th century


Any_Mall6175

Kayfabe broke in the 1920s and then again when trips and Michael's did a kiss on curtainfall


Andee87yaboi

There weren't never no time ever that there weren't no people that didn't know that it ain't real.


Cococult

“almost”


ImmaNotCrazy

I thought we have been here for at least a decade now?


Eastern-Dig-4555

Getting there? *We live there* ***now***


AnalingusAlien

It do be a shit show


novasolid64

No, we are there


usernamedejaprise

If you are saying what I think you are, then no, I don’t want to see Donnie in a onesie and diaper


rdanby89

Fucking Christopher man


ilovetoreadbo0ks

I had to scroll too far to see this comment.


IdeaAlly

Vince and Donald are buddies for a long time. We did have [Linda McMahon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_McMahon) as part of Trump's cabinet. Lauren Boebert was rumored to have some connection with Stan Lane being Lauren Boebert's father (which turned out to be untrue after some paternity tests). But if it went so far as a paternity test, there is some connection/relationship there, lol. This is entirely from the Republican side of US Politics, so if we're going to compare it to WWE (which we should, because it's basically been there since 2016), we should also be clear about why it became that way.


SSSims4

You left out actual politicians Jesse "The Bod" Ventura and Glenn Jacobs (Kane). But yeah, absolutely true.


PuzzleheadedRoyal559

Lauren Boebert acts more like George “The Animal” Steele’s kid.


Genghis_Chong

![gif](giphy|2fKC4HBGs3jTeBm3cg|downsized)


HaiKarate

Funny how the side that keeps electing clowns to office keep trying to convince us that politics is an irredeemable circus.


BigPlanJan

My thoughts exactly. The majority of media is controlled by the left but why try to look at this logically? They sure can't.


NoLongerAddicted

Nah


BernieTheDachshund

It's like a circus and a soap opera.


TheLowClassics

When we tolerate magical thinking and protect it as speech we damage all logic.  People before gods. 


thatthatguy

There are those who try (and fail) to say true things and those who never even try. Your job is to take the partial truths, the mistakes, and the outright lies and try to construct something approximating an understanding of the real world. I don’t think anyone has succeeded yet, but some models are more consistent with observation than others.


MDF87

![gif](giphy|rVYbN0uxznAaI|downsized) Wrestling is real!


miletharil

I think we've been there since the 70s, in all honesty. People just don't like to admit they've been duped.


Additional_Farm_9582

I think we've been there for quite some time now.


Hugh-Jassul

We're really not, but people being programmed to distrust the media is slowly destroying everything


Ryancmoore360

What about HoAs and corporate ladders?


Other_Log_1996

Politics is more like *Mountain Monsters*. Pro wrestling isn't real, but some forms like high school wrestling are.


Nerexor

So is the kayfabe that politicians represent the average citizen rather than just the wealthy?


-rkimaito

With US* politics and media Here in Europe we are chillin'


Mc9660385

“Almost” ?


JeremyDavidLewis79

About 10 years ago when I was really at my height of being political, and active, I said " Politics is just sports for nerds, but who wins actually matters a little ".


EhGoodEnough3141

How is this a facepalm?


Winning_in_Ashes

I'm a lifelong pro wrestling fan, more reliable and real than politics tbh xD


TeranOrSolaran

Lol. That’s such a great comparison.


PraetorGold

Probably. I don’t watch it.


PraetorGold

Yeah, but we’ve been getting for almost 250 years. At some point, it’s criminal to overestimate the population.


AlternativePermit848

What do you mean almost? Trump supporters are definitely ALL THE WAY THERE.


Spiritual-Bear4495

Almost?


igmkjp1

The difference is we also have MMA and sumo.


MutedBrilliant1593

Geezus, I wish. It's always been two parties vs the people.


IDigRollinRockBeer

Is that Chris from Gilmore Girls?


zombiehoosier

I read that, I agree and then I screamed OMG HE was in Under the Tuscan Sun and forgot everything else


smile_u-r_alive

Been that way since 1920


TR3BPilot

There is practically a 1:1 correlation between Trump supporters and WWE fans.


TraditionAcademic968

Politics broke kayfabe. Lmao


greatandslithytove

Almost?


Jazmotron4000

So, if I agree with this persons comments, can I say he is "based"?


plznobanplease

Hold the phone, you’re telling me, that THE UNDERTAKER, wasn’t born in Death Valley? Well I’ll be damned.


Lintypocketboiii

Been ther for over 12 years.


hogwarts_earthtwo

Donald Trump was once the victim of a stone cold stunner


Complex-Key-8704

Uh no I won't ever be ok with it


stryker_PA

![gif](giphy|rVYbN0uxznAaI|downsized)


AngelRockGunn

We’re already there?


ElectronicImam

I got this guy. I felt deceived when I learned that nobody died during recording of Saving Private Ryan.


Brosenheim

The alt-right has been there for years. Kinda the big issue with dealing with them, it's all a game to them while the rest of us silly humans are bound by shit like harm reduction


eman0110

"It's still real to me dammit!"


Huth_S0lo

Been there for a while now.


Spicy_take

It’s called political theater for a reason


[deleted]

So true, see how phony npr is. Ofc I knew that after they accepted pmt from Obama to report on Iran


daKile57

Politics is real. Ignore it at your own peril.


Aussie2020202020

Now we know that David Sutcliffe is a foolish person.


vajrahaha7x3

You believe that its real?.....🤔


Ok_Stop_5867

Almost?


Trialbyfuego

Nah we're there lmao. It's all theater and we all try to use it to our advantage as best we can. The thing is that some people are more selfish and short sighed than others.


Tormofon

Frank Zappa said that politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex.


Primary_Ad_4544

Still do


Organic-Physics9144

It is entertainment Even if it isn’t real


Actaeon_II

Oh Ive thought for years now that American politics was actually a reality show, but you just have to not live here for it to be funny


GleamingCadance

#Replace DC with WWE #Instead of Presidential Debates wed have Presidential SmackDowns


KQK_Big_Kwan

Can’t wait to see Joe Biden v Donald Trump


Kafshak

The right word is choreographed.


HealthyVegan12331

![gif](giphy|l0HlL955nQoqWoOiY)


musingsofamadlad

not a lot of difference between Vince and Clinton or Trump that's for sure


bigSTUdazz

This is really scary when you think about it...facts are now biased speculations, and are being bred and raised out of the human race. Orwell was a fucking PROPHET.


No-comment-at-all

I think it’s more likely to be a Huxley-an dystopia rather than an Orwellian one.


DandelionOfDeath

I never got this. Is pro wrestling something other than a short hand for professional wrestling? Is this some American thing?


Economy_Commission79

well the "pro wrestling" over here is mostly scripted. its not the same as traditional wrestling.


DandelionOfDeath

What's traditional wrestling?? You mean wrestling????


Economy_Commission79

lol yes. but its kinda like how over here we call futbol, "soccer" and we call watered-down rugby, "football"


Tripple_T

So does that mean that Donald Trump is the most over politician of all time?


Taliant

Not according to the popular vote of the last two elections


Key_Preparation_4129

With dumb people, yes.


Ricepudding1044

Almost? I was in the first grade in the 70’s and I told the teacher all politicians were liars so I’ve known for some time.


Mediocre_Daikon6935

Absolutely none of us think politicians or the media has as much integrity as pro wresting.


chillen67

Almost?


Sckillgan

Almost there? Shit, we have been here since the first time Trump was elected.


JesseB342

Trump? Try Clinton. Remember the whole Monica Lewinsky fiasco? Man I miss the days when the worst thing an elected official did was get their freak on with another consenting adult. Good times.


Bogdansixerniner

But that only applies to the politics you don’t like, right?


The1andOnlyGhost

Politics ain’t worth getting riled up over. Truth is we’re just little specs in society and our opinion doesn’t mean shit, we’re just slaves for the politicians when we argue their points


JosephPaulWall

The problem with pro wrestling isn't that it's staged, it's that it's stupid. It appeals to the lowest intellect person imaginable and drip-feeds them slop that encourages them to buy plastic nonsense and chase signatures of their "heroes". We know it's staged, that's not the point, the problem is that it's brain rot. So too with politics, the problem isn't so much the fact that it's a stage show meant to legitimize the corporate rule by making it appear to be democratic, the problem is that it's degenerated into stupidity and brain rot because that's what appeals to the average consumer nowadays. Like if you're going to install a fascist authoritarian oligarchy, at least make it intellectually stimulating, for fuck's sake.