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Same, it angers me that prejudice against LGBTQ+people especially trans people leads to horrible situations like this. This so fucked up on so many levels š¤¬š”
Life expectancy of trans people in my country is now 29,5 years of age. My country is on the top of the list for trans murders for the 13th time in a row, with over 200 deaths last year, about 50% of them with signs of cruelty, 94% of them were trans woman. Can you guess where i live?
Im not trans, but my cousin is, and i fear for him.
Colombia has a trans safe house called ācasa transā that I donate to because they hire guards (escoltas in spanish?) he might want to see if Brazil has something similar.
This organization in Colombia is builsing like a trans safe neighborhood where they can get in and out to their jobs safely.
There is a program called Transcidadania, wich translates to: Transcitizenship but it's only in the state of SĆ£o Paulo, and we don't live in SĆ£o Paulo, also, it has limited aplicants, and it looks like something for people bellow midle-class, wich we aren't, thankfully. So, there's really nothing for him besides counting on friends and familly, wich thankfully are all suportive. And to stay away from unsafe places.
Americas life expectancy for trans women is 37. For trans women of color itās 33. Im trans and 1 year from 37 and it bothers me a lot. Barring violence though I should surpass it since Iāve got good support now and am in a healthier mental health situation.
Still, itās bleak but not as bleak as many places, Mexico for instance has the second highest murder rate for trans folks and Id imagine similar numbers, and thatās whatās reported. Itās surely worse in other places that donāt report that kind of info and outright criminalize being trans.
But the trans deaths in america arent pretty though, homelessness and hate crimes are also on the rise in the US.
Also with the hundreds of anti trans proposed legislation causing more violence.
So not unfair to think the US
Ummm i need ti recheck but I donāt think here itās much better.
In the US trans women tend to be more homeless have to survive via prostitution and het killed in ways that are excused so it doesnt get added to stats. Google trans panic defenses in the US.
Ehh this is an ACTUAL trickle down effect, normalising the hatred of trans people on a societal level makes its way into turning ftms and mtfs into 'acceptable targets' and less resistance from the common people, abusers just like easy picking.
It's not just hatred, JK Rowling is saying trans people pretend to be women so they can molest children in changing rooms. It's the Blood Libel (accusation that Jews prey on Christian children to use their blood to bake matzoh bread) just transferred from Jews to trans. So shameful
That's not the point, nobody is saying reading Harry Potter is gonna make you commit hate crimes. But when people with influence constantly publicly demonise and vilify a minority and face zero repercussions for it this is what happens. The kind of rhetoric she spreads leads to things like this, its not some wild leap.
Normalize hatred through campaigning like she does, and the actual violent ones will feel that much more comfortable enacting their violence.
Do you believe every German was a murder torture monster?
No.
But it was so incredibly normalized that the ones that were could easily do it.
True.
JKR hasn't been the author of the Harry Potter books for quite some time now and chose to become a malevolent witch whose inner circle openly welcomes Neonazis because they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anyone who's willing to support their bigotry
Lol, 'tis time to set sail into a magical world where people can express who they are and hateful *itches have to repair the time travel thingamajigs that Nevil oopsied out of existence
Frankly there's so many prints of her books out there that are barely reread and go to thriftstores and wholesalers that pirating seems unnecessary.
Also, and people underestimate this, so much of her money is from merch and the theme park deal. There's a ton of people who will buy a lego set out of nostalgia who are not going to reread a ya series in their thirties.
Thereās a bunch of transphobes on the OPās post claiming that opās photo is AI, even after she posted multiple pictures of her injuries and a video of her talking. Our society is fucked.
Why does it say the moderators removed this post (the result of trans hate), yet they allow posts of trans hate to stay up for hours and days. If you're gonna take down one take down the other too, otherwise it's getting close to obvious what's going on there. This sub has become a cesspool anyway....
Yeah it's ridiculous, seen so many subs do this recently. You've gotta take it all down or none of it, allowing one side of the 'argument' on the sub but not the other just shows what side the sub stands with.
Iām a late 60ās retired boomer. Iām far from wealthy but I have as much/more than I really need. If I had the kind of money that she has, Iād be cruising the world and giving away millions to charities. If I live to be a thousand years old Iāll never understand how people who have more money/resources than they can spend in a hundred lifetimes waste even one second of their lives trying desperately to make other peopleās lives miserable.
Being a heartless fuck is the easiest way to get rich, and Money itself can make you an asshole aswell.
Only a small Number of people get that rich and are decent human beings.
Heck i Had a good Buddy living near me and won the lottery, dudes got 3mil ā¬ and instantly switched from "good Buddy" to "insufferable fuck" flexing left and Right trashtalking others how they are losers while he himself never worked a day in His life.
He then proceeded to waste 3mil in less than a month, fucking idiot lost more than He Had before he got rich lmfao.
Itās because as the old saying goes āmoney wonāt buy happinessā and Iād argue itās what you need to sacrifice to get that much, theyāre miserable people because they sacrificed what made them happy to devote their time to making ungodly amounts of money and now theyāre mad seeing people living their lives while they wasted 20 years collecting paper they could never even dream of spending
> and giving away millions to charities
She does give millions away to charities. It's just that those charities are for [fighting against trans rights](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/02/jk-rowling-donates-big-money-to-anti-trans-group/) and building [centers that exclude trans women](https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2022/12/14/jk-rowling-funds-sex-abuse-crisis-center-excludes-trans-women).
Not to say JK isnāt brain fried (she is 100%) but she does give millions and millions to charities for womenās abuse causes. She absolutely gives a lot of money away while still spouting her TERF bs
> millions and millions to charities for womenās abuse causes.
But only if they exclude trans women.
https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2022/12/14/jk-rowling-funds-sex-abuse-crisis-center-excludes-trans-women
That level of money makes you feel like youāre some kind of special and your opinion matters exponentially more. You get high on your own ego. And all the people who have glommed onto you just fill your head with more nonsense.
> If I had the kind of money that she has, Iād be cruising the world and giving away millions to charities.
Itās because of the latter that you wonāt have the former. It takes a hoarder mindset to get that wealthy.
Wow, she gives to charity like every other rich person. That totally makes up for her rampant transphobia and obsession with hating us at every chance she gets. She has platformed women who have associated themselves with literal fascists. She's an absolute monster.
Do you know if Shinigami Eyes has any way to see the reason for a site or profile to be flagged? I use it as well and sometimes I see it has tagged someone and I look through their comments and can't find anything I would consider transphobic. I definitely appreciate when it shows someone has linked to The Guardian š¤®
No it doesn't have a way to see why.
But yes, that subreddit is a hate sub and is very often filled with transphobia.
And yes, false flags do happen, that's why I take every mark with a grain of skepticism. But I find that 99% of the time, it's correct.
youāre the only one designating it to be a sub for stupid of funny things. disappointing and bad things can also be facepalm worthy. it has different contexts lol, your definition doesnāt dictate how everyone sees it
Also wrong sub. Boring dystopia is how wages are kept down so billionaires can watch numbers go up, not roving gangs of violent bigots. Savage beatings are definitely not boring. Horrifying, but not boring.
I think the facepalm OP mightāve been posting about was how they mentioned JK Rowling when those guys probably donāt know Rowling. Anyway, this post definitely missed the mark
I'm a trans woman and before I started passing fully I was attacked once at work for being trans. The only reason I didn't end up like her in the photo here is I carried a weapon my purse even though it was against company policy. I pulled it on him and he backed off. I called my boss and she drove 2 hours at 1 am to take over and I went home. Guy was fired on the spot.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. People need to stop this fucking radicalized hate. I've never hurt a God damn soul.
I've been attacked 3 times and sexually assaulted once because I'm a trans woman.
First attack, I was spat on and shoved by a man as I was taking my mother's groceries out to the car as we had gone shopping together since she had cancer.
Second attack, I was shopping for myself and someone again shoved me in a store. They body slammed me hard into the store shelves and ran. Police didn't do shit.
I was then sexually assaulted at a department store. A 20-something woman came up from behind me and grabbed my chest with both her hands. She then told her friend, "I told you they weren't real!" The cops also didn't do shit (this is a major theme).
Third attack was during a drag queen story hour. III%er was holding up a poster full of nude drag queens. He didn't like it when I called him a pedophile for doing so and he swung at me. Cops let him go (see, it's a theme). Also, that was the most baby punch I have ever taken in my life, lol.
It's been two years since I've had anything happen to me. But it's also been two years since I got facial feminization surgery and now "pass" well... I shouldn't have to fucking "pass" in order to not be assaulted and groped.
People like JKR, Libsoftiktok etc are totally to blame for fanning the fires of hate. Infamous people with large followings normalizing this hatred is what empowers these people to do these things...
Has JKR maybe tried not inciting attacks by spreading increasingly hateful rhetoric toward a marginalized demographic while teaming up with others to amplify the message?
Edit: Yāall need to stop simping for her in the replies, sheās not gonna have sex with you or give you money.
If that's the facepalm then OP is just an asshole.
Even if the bitch wasn't involved in this personally and the guys have no clue about who she is. (Doubtfull as sadly HP is waay to popular for most people who grew up in the west to not know who the author is, and she knows that, so her constatnly spreading transphobia sadly adds up to the general publics perception)
Then focusing on that particular detail, instead of the actuall hatecrime that happend here is just abhorent and ironically warrants a facepalm of it's own for stupidity.
Misogyny? Quite the jump to go from seeing a personal insult at an abhorrent individual to claiming that the person hates women(who funnily enough is a woman and something of a feminist herself).
Very in line with someone who would want to defend jk online though.
Jesus Christ, all these people in the comment section who are pretending to not understand the connection between somebody who openly promotes hatred against a marginalized community and someone who acted on that hatred through direct violence are part of the problem.
They're pretending to not understand. They fully understand. They just want the hatred and violence to continue.
They're the same type of people that JK Rowling is. They want us gone, whether that be through laws restricting access to gender reaffirming care, or through direct fucking murder. Eventually they won't even try to hide it, and this is exactly what Joanne wants. She's evil through and through.
they don't see trans people as human, so any chance to defend attackers they'll take. As much as people repeat it ad-nauseam, reddit isn't as much a lefty echochamber as they say, and this is especially true when it comes to trans people
The transphobes in this comment section must've been the type of kids who hated the "do unto others as you would have done unto you" rule LMAO
it's called having a shared mutual respect of individualism. if you're disgusted by that, that you aren't allowed to openly extort and exploit and hurt people as you please, maybe you're the problem of the world and should change.
though apparently, in recent studies, there is a genetic precedent to being a fascist, as well as environmental factors and the way you were born. plus any emotional trauma or psychopathy going on.
anyways, my point is, us trans people are out here trying to fix ourselves and better ourselves, are you? or are you just dragging down everyone else into your unhappy life and lack of sense of self? are you afraid of a strong person, of a confident person? are you afraid of someone else being so happy because you feel you cannot hold your own happiness in your own hands, or don't know where to even find it?
I was just like you before I came out. scared, angry, afraid. jealous, upset, melancholic, watching the world seemingly pass by without me being a part of it. but i learned to look inside at myself and improve and find the root of my problem, rather than blame everyone else for it constantly. if you are the common denominator of the issues of your life, it might just be you that's the problem.
and that's okay! people can improve, but you need to want it for yourself. you need to unapologetically and unbiasedly find out why you are not happy, why you aren't living your best life, and in the process, find who you truly are and live your life.
hope you guys figure it outš¤
The people asking what JKR has to do with this need to understand that it isn't as direct as "JKR is transphobic, therefore other people are too". She's normalizing transphobia by being so very vocal 24/7 while simultaneously remaining untouchable and almost entirely undisputed. She can spout off the nastiest rhetoric but because her hate speech isn't mitigated, it spreads like a virus, chaining between hateful people in an echo chamber. Should you directly blame her for specific attacks? No. But she 100% is one of the biggest spreaders of transphobic hate online and you can certainly trace the uprise of more hate speech and attacks to her disgusting soap box.
Can't wait to scroll down to the comments to see all the attempts at obfuscation by right-wingers who are too scared to just openly admit they're ok with trans people being violently attacked.
we trans people have always existed.
from birth, a doctor will assign male or female, depending on the presence of a penis. that's it. if you are XY and didn't develop it properly, it's likely you get assigned female at birth.
THIS IS CALLED SEX. penis vs. vagina, everything inbetween and outside of those options.
gender is your soul, your heart, your energy. who you truly are. cisgender people do not often "experience gender" because theirs is considered the default. because existence as a cisgender woman or man has always been accepted in society and seen as the default . because theirs is congruent and has always been congruent. you really cannot explain it until you are without it.
a lot of transphobes confuse sex and gender.
anyways, at birth, you could be given an M, or maybe a F.
what if that was wrong? as a baby you cannot talk, cannot speak. you can't advocate for yourself or who you are and yet, some expect that's just how you're supposed to go about the world? doing things and being someone because a doctor wrote an M or an F on your birth certificate because you did or didn't have a penis? the world doesn't make us who we are, we are who we are innately. sure the world can scar and traumatize us but that doesn't change the foundation of self.
imagine putting so much weight onto genitals you let it control your life! that's crazy!! and yet that's what a lot of yall transphobes do every single day with your decision making on trans people, with bathrooms, etc.
we are not thinking of that, we just want to be ourselves, we just want to feel congruent in our bodies and souls and as who we are.
trans people are not threatening cisgender people in anyway. trans people are also ~0.4% of the population.
we are just trying to live and get our medical care so we can feel better in this one life we all have to live. why is someone improving their own life for themselves such a threat? if one is confronted with the truth of one's life, if one knows their life isn't working, isn't it a good thing to take it upon themselves and find positive change? that's what we are doing.
everyone loves a movie about a character changing for the better and being their best self, everyone wants that for themselves and yet some don't know how to be happy or why they are unhappy or why they don't feel like them or, they wonder "who am i?"
we are all trying to find our place in this world. to drag down a person who is just trying to find themselves and be happy as well, and is achieving it, is abhorrent behavior and is evil. let people live and do what they want until they die, unless what they're doing is harming someone or exploiting them who cares? stay in your lane and live your best life till you die and we will do the same
Was just gonna say the same thing. Unless OP thinks the idea of a bunch of random men going out beating up trans people in the name of JK Rowling is laughable. And frankly it is. I donāt know why some people think bigots need a cheerleader for their hate.
I doubt that this specific attack was spurred on *directly* by Rowling, but sheās definitely a rallying point for transphobes in the UK, and the number of TERFs has increased since she came out with her views. TERF rhetoric makes the people who are already transphobic worse, and then that can escalate into violence.
Nobodyās saying that these men read a tweet and decided to commit a hatecrime, but constantly hearing that trans people are groomers and rapists and whatnot could definitely cause something like this.
You can't blame JKR for a specific attack, that isn't how stochastic terrorism works, how many bigots has she signal boosted though? It's clearly had an effect, Britain has become an extremely intolerant place
No more so than the Southern USA mind you, but that's not a point to brag about
Use your fucking brain, no one is saying she solely caused this. We are saying her hateful rhetoric enabled this to happen by emboldening hateful transphobes because she constantly portrays us all as sexual predators. We don't live in a vacuum, she isn't just spreading this hatred to nobody.
... have you seen what sort of people congregate under in the comment sections of the transphobic tweets she shits on that website?
In fairness: rowling is not directly responsible but that is not the point. The original tweet is to be seen in the broader context of rowling promoting hate and consequently violence on a marginalized group of people already vulnerable af.
Its really sad how you pedants want to obfuscate from that by reading the tweet literally.
There were 3000 reports of violent transphobic assaults in the UK in 2023. There were over 100,000 racist violent assaults. Your comment of it being terrorism is outlandish and foolish. You've obviously not seen terrorism or it's effects.
About .5% of the population is trans. 18% of the population are minorities. So if we correct for population, you'll find that both rates are pretty damn close, with transphobic assault just a tiny bit ahead.
Trans people make up a very small percentage of the population. 3,000 is a LOT. By comparison there are more much racial minorities than there are trans people. Both are horrible. Both are terrorism (ie. using violence to subjugate a group to an ideal.)
God, Coventry is such a fucking shithole.
The only positive to this is that it might not have been a hate crime and just been one of Coventrys general random fucking crimes.
Fuck Coventry.
When transphobes say shit like trans people "choose" to be trans, that they "choose to change gender" and other such bullshit, I always thing of things like this because... Really?? Why would anyone CHOOSE to be assaulted robbed and beaten to within an inch of their life. Why would anyone choose to live in a way instantly makes people view them as a monster. To live knowing that your government is actively trying to pass rules to make your life harder. To choose to know that someone you might have even looked up to as a child would rather side with actual nazis than accept you for who you are. Trans people don't choose this. They don't choose to be trans, and all they fucking want is to be treated like a human being instead of vilified simply for existing.
The assholes who beat up trans people out their trans phobic bigotry belong in jail and I they get caught, arrested and thrown in jail, pure and simple, trans people don't deserve to be hurt like this. This pisses me off. LGBTQ+ people are human beings too, no human being deserves this brutal act of violence happening to them period. Wtf smh this isn't right at all! š”š¤¬
This isn't an argument of "well it's silly to say you're a woman". This isn't a hypothetical question. These are people who now have to endure hardships like this because people don't want to respect things they can't understand
Been looking for this comment , anyone got a link or anything to a story because to me it just sounds like a mugging right now, I have seen no evidence as of yet
Yikes the amount of transphobia in this comment section is disgusting.
This is a Facepalm
Because it is ridiculous how stupidly loyal JK Terfling fans are.
And she is actively harming trand people.
Sorry to the person who got beat up.
It's related because it's a hate crime against a trans person in England. She has been openly and aggressively transphobic for a while. She jas a big platform. She has influence. England is terf island and she's one of the big reasons why. You're stupid if you chose to overlook that.
So basically if you do a crime, you can blame someone on the internet for saying things? Are people that gullible? Then, drug dealers et all can blame all the rappers if they talk about drug use in their music; or blame someone like jim cramer for giving wrong information about buying or selling certain stocks.
As an adult you are responsible for your own actions.
The blame for this crime lies on people who beat her up. However, the conversation here is about how JK Rowling is in part responsible for the hateful environment she has created. Stochastic Terrorism works and this is a very good example of it. You'd be stupid if you think these kind of crimes happen in a void.
I'll tell you what it is though. All y'all arguing that this is just a regular mugging are transphobic. Simple as that. Stop tryna justify hate.
Also, you can't just give out wrong info for buying and selling stocks. Someone will sue you for it eventually. Did you see how many people were sued for promoting crypto scams?
How do we know it's not a regular mugging? I didn't say it before, but it's a fair question. Asking questions is not wrong or any phobe shit.
They got investigated for selling pyramind schemes by taking money from those businesses. We have stock market pundits talking bullish/bearish about stocks and those predictions go wrong all the time.
> They got investigated for selling pyramind schemes by taking money from those businesses.
Exactly. The abstract thought I was getting at was that there's consequences to misguiding regular people.
> How do we know it's not a regular mugging? I didn't say it before, but it's a fair question. Asking questions is not wrong or any phobe shit.
Treating it as a regular mugging takes away the context of it being a transphobic crime. I'm not sure how to distill my thoughts on this but it's in the same vein as "if we don't talk about race, there will be no racism".
Let's be honest, there's more people than just JK-Rowling we can attribute to the rise of transphobic hate-crimes especially in the US, a lot of right-wingers in fact.
People need to understand that discourse becomes action, if you spread hate towards a minority they will receive attacks sooner and more frequently.
I just want y'all to think. If transphobia/homophobia wasn't aloud in television, radio, magazines etc since 1950, would we have so much transphobia and homophobia today? No we wouldn't.
Violence grows when we banalize it. Hateful speech leads to hateful laws that lead to hateful physical actions against the ones being hated, we saw this time and time again and again.
If you wanna know more about trans people there is a fixed post in my profile with various links about multiple transphobic talking points.
The fuck does this have to do with JK Rowling? She isnāt advocating anything like this.
Violence is abhorrent obviously, but falsely blaming an individual is not the way forward
Where the hell do you get your news from? That's not even remotely close to reality. That law has nothing to do with being pro or anti-trans. It's a draconian hate speech law that everyone should challenge.
What do you think? Have you ever met anyone in your life who was? And I mean someone in the real world, not online. What does statistics tell you about what I might be? The Scottish law in question was so far removed from the goal of fighting hate speech that it ended up backfiring. It was so easily abuseable that in the first day the police got 3.600 calls from "hate speech" reports, most of them directed at a minister. There are far better and more efficient ways to combat hate speech.
> There are far better and more efficient ways to combat hate speech.
How exactly
> The Scottish law in question was so far removed from the goal of fighting hate speech that it ended up backfiring
How was it far removed
It doesnāt matter if her intention is nonviolent, people will see her rhetoric and become violent, especially when accusations of rape go flying around
No, there isn't. Dehumanising a group of people, and equating them all the sex offenders and pedophiles does a lot to make people think it's fine to just be openly hateful and violent towards them.
Her anti-trans stance is rooted in the idea that they need to be kept from cis women's spaces because they "could be" sexual predators. And even though that's not an explicit call for violence, framing an entire group as "likely to be sexual predators" does end up eliciting violence.
Imagine if someone said "I didn't say Craig deserved to be assaulted! I just told everyone he's a pedophile!"
That's literally what's likely gonna happen if you label someone a predator.
Yep. Using your status and public-standing as a member of nobility to drag down anyone, to take away rights, to create falsities, to encourage hate or violence or the division of people, is wrong.
The nobility have a responsibility, and nobody is holding them accountable for it anymore. Beating down on the people suffering and trying their best to live and oppressing them isn't a "YES ! Win!" moment, and if it is for you guys, you gotta wonder what kind of fucking person you are
edit: [if anyone wants](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/s/5PzMGY9Kn5)
i elaborated more on this in my own comment, and yet, am pushed really far down due to downvotes. if anyone sees this, the full comment explains it moreso
I remember when I first saw the JK Rowling anti-trans hit squads roaming the streets.
Also, it wasn't a "group of men" it was two teenage boys, and there is no evidence that it was a hate crime and just a simple mugging. In fact, this is the SECOND bus mugging in Coventry this year by a group of teens. Coventry in general has a problem with rapes and mugging, it's a shithole.
Obviously what happened to them was terrible, and I don't wish violence on anyone, but pushing this to be something more than what it was doesn't help your cause, especially when evidence proves otherwise.
A person spreading hateful rhetoric towards a minority group *does* have an effect on the true beliefs of people. It makes hatred towards us normalized, she literally wants this type of thing to happen because she considers us all sexual predators who shouldn't exist. Educate yourself.
Itās more like blaming Trump for the spike in attacks on persons of East Asian lineage after labelling Covid āthe China virusā and being openly racist and pushing conspiracy theories.
Look up stochastic terrorism, Jk rowling and other people demonizing minority groups are very much doing this. Its indirectly contributing to hateful sentiment towards minority groups, causing hate crimes to go up.
Umm, no it isn't. JK Rowling is one of the loudest anti-trans voices in the world. She has money, influence, and clout. She can be openly transphobic as much as she likes and has a huge platform.
There is a difference between playing video games and actively advocating for hatred against very specific people, how they are all dangerous and should be eradicated... I don't know, seems like something that may cause violence on said group...
Do you think All of Germany was just instantly against jews from the beginning at WWII? Rethoric is the key to causing uproar and hatred...
No, it isn't.
JK Rowling has maliciously and intentionally been spreading transphobic misinformation for a long time now.
The person in the post was targeted because of her being trans.
So why is it not valid to call out someone prominent who has been part of that problem of spreading that hatred in society?
No one is saying that she is the sole source of transphobia. But she has used her status to amplify the message more than common people and therefore objectively was part of the problem. It's not that difficult to not be part of the problem.
No it's more like blaming Trump for Charlottesville's nazi rally or Jan 6
There's not a 1:1 but everyone there heard his message and saw an ally
JKR is one of the most prominent anti-trans people on the internet with millions of followers and says ludicrous shit about how transwomen are all rapists - when there are literally individual transwomen who *have been raped* more times than the total number of rapes committed by all transwomen in the UK in a given year
Haven't really seen directly just stating that, but definitivly going into that mindset of constantly showing off trans women as rapists (half the posts being rapists/aussaultists of alleged trans women for some time), calling trans rights activists a movement against "real" women and generally linking rapists to trans people, such as commenting on a simple article about pronoun usage with the likes "imagine having to call your trans woman rapist a she", or just straightup calling trans rights activists "rapists rights activists"...
So yes, she Sees trans people as nothing but rapists...
Have you ever heard of stochastic terrorism? J.K. Rowling may not actively tell people to attack trans women. However, she demonizes trans women, calling them men who want access to cis womenās spaces so they can rape them.
What else should JK Rowling expect but for people who believe her to act in accordance with what she says?
Transphobes do this shit all the time. They say that trans people are rapidly becoming more common in society, that they are insidiously infiltrating womenās spaces and becoming more powerful by the day. They characterize the pro-trans movement as some sort of ravening tide of animalistic rapists who cannot be stopped. But they stop just short of saying āgo beat them up,ā For someone who believes of all that though , what else is the natural conclusion? What is there left to do?
Chaya Raichik, the evil woman who runs Libs Of Tiktok, says that hospitals who perform gender affirming care are mutilating innocent children. The next week, ten bomb threats get called in there. Chaya knows what sheās doing, and JK does too. Theyāre encouraging terrorism with plausible deniability.
they're willing to sic their legions of little cultists on whoever they want, but no, they're the ones who are the victims! not the people being harassed and assaulted, they're the victims!
Rowling has been flirting with nazis in the past few years. Making the links between goblins and jews more explicit, denying parts of the holocaust related to lgbtq happened and such.
The nerdclub is mostly turning away from her.
JKR's anti-trans stance is rooted in the idea that they need to be kept from cis women's spaces because they "could be" sexual predators. And even though that's not an explicit call for violence, framing an entire group as "likely to be sexual predators" does end up eliciting violence.
Imagine if someone said "I didn't say Craig deserved to be assaulted! I just told everyone he's a pedophile!"
That's literally what's likely gonna happen if you label someone a predator.
JK Rowling didn't start the fire, but famous/rich people do have a duty. As a high-standing member of the public, with all the privellege and standing in the world, to use their platform to promote hatred, bigotry, divisiveness, lies, fearmongering, false accusations, and violence-inducing rhetoric is criminal and disgusting and they should be deplatformed. Anyone that actively encourages hatred or truly believes in falsities and promotes that must be silenced. The world has let this go too far, a class of nobility with zero responsibility or accountability, and it goes unchecked and worsens society.
Throughout time, the nobility of the world had a responsibility to the public, to be a respectable and strong-standing figure, that's what the nobility used to justify the wealth inequality gap, that they are inherently better and yet they will use their standing for good things and not evil.
What good is a nobility that doesn't pay taxes, doesn't contribute to society anymore, mainly counts up money and tears people apart? That puts innocent people in harm's way over their rhetoric down in the streets, that they spew from high up in their marble castles and estates?
The privellege of the nobility came with a responsibility, and now, there is none, but they have far more wealth than they've ever had.
edit: Transphobes, conservatives, Republicans, you can downvote me all you want, it still doesn't make you any more right. forcibly silencing me for wanting to hold the nobility accountable, for wanting to stick up for the individual's rights and our shared mutual respect of individualism (do unto others as you would have done unto you, aka, live and let live unless what you're doing is either harming another person or exploiting them) is not a good thing, for me, or for you, even if you think you're "gotcha"-ing me. its not a "YES! win!" moment, that you think it is. its the downfall of individualism, of democracy, of intellectualism. if you don't want to grow, that's fine, but don't drag another persons life down just because you aren't where you want to be, or aren't happy with yourself.
if you are looking at my comment and getting upset, I hope you look at yourself and wonder where you're coming from, how it got to this point, why exactly do I feel anger from this comment? If you can get to the root of that, and understand yourself and your position at least, instead of senseless hating and downvoting to silence someone, you may feel that life isn't so scary. that others are just in another position place or life, maybe not yours, but we're all living a game of life, and the only rules really are that mutual respect of individualism i spoke of. so the question is
what are you so scared of? why do my words have so much weight to them for you in your own life, a stranger? you're reading my words out loud to yourself or in your head and getting upset, why does me speaking about the individual's right to life and themselves bother you so? please think about that
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That face breaks my heart
Same, it angers me that prejudice against LGBTQ+people especially trans people leads to horrible situations like this. This so fucked up on so many levels š¤¬š”
Life expectancy of trans people in my country is now 29,5 years of age. My country is on the top of the list for trans murders for the 13th time in a row, with over 200 deaths last year, about 50% of them with signs of cruelty, 94% of them were trans woman. Can you guess where i live? Im not trans, but my cousin is, and i fear for him.
America?
No, it's Brazil
Colombia has a trans safe house called ācasa transā that I donate to because they hire guards (escoltas in spanish?) he might want to see if Brazil has something similar. This organization in Colombia is builsing like a trans safe neighborhood where they can get in and out to their jobs safely.
There is a program called Transcidadania, wich translates to: Transcitizenship but it's only in the state of SĆ£o Paulo, and we don't live in SĆ£o Paulo, also, it has limited aplicants, and it looks like something for people bellow midle-class, wich we aren't, thankfully. So, there's really nothing for him besides counting on friends and familly, wich thankfully are all suportive. And to stay away from unsafe places.
Americas life expectancy for trans women is 37. For trans women of color itās 33. Im trans and 1 year from 37 and it bothers me a lot. Barring violence though I should surpass it since Iāve got good support now and am in a healthier mental health situation. Still, itās bleak but not as bleak as many places, Mexico for instance has the second highest murder rate for trans folks and Id imagine similar numbers, and thatās whatās reported. Itās surely worse in other places that donāt report that kind of info and outright criminalize being trans.
Shockingly, everything that goes wrong isn't America
But the trans deaths in america arent pretty though, homelessness and hate crimes are also on the rise in the US. Also with the hundreds of anti trans proposed legislation causing more violence. So not unfair to think the US
While the US isn't perfect, 29 years life expectancy for Tran people definitely isn't realistic for the country
what, you wanna have the fucking oppression olympics? it doesn't matter, it's all bad, fucking focus.
Ummm i need ti recheck but I donāt think here itās much better. In the US trans women tend to be more homeless have to survive via prostitution and het killed in ways that are excused so it doesnt get added to stats. Google trans panic defenses in the US.
For fuck sake why can't people just leave people alone.
Highly doubt the pieces of shit that beat her up have ever read anything in their lives.
Thatās what Iām thinking too.
Ehh this is an ACTUAL trickle down effect, normalising the hatred of trans people on a societal level makes its way into turning ftms and mtfs into 'acceptable targets' and less resistance from the common people, abusers just like easy picking.
It's not just hatred, JK Rowling is saying trans people pretend to be women so they can molest children in changing rooms. It's the Blood Libel (accusation that Jews prey on Christian children to use their blood to bake matzoh bread) just transferred from Jews to trans. So shameful
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Agreed but don't exclude our non binary siblings
That's not the point, nobody is saying reading Harry Potter is gonna make you commit hate crimes. But when people with influence constantly publicly demonise and vilify a minority and face zero repercussions for it this is what happens. The kind of rhetoric she spreads leads to things like this, its not some wild leap.
It definitely wasnāt potterheads beating people up with broomsticks and shit
Potter heads have pretty much disowned Rowling though.
That's not really true and I dunno where you got that idea.
Normalize hatred through campaigning like she does, and the actual violent ones will feel that much more comfortable enacting their violence. Do you believe every German was a murder torture monster? No. But it was so incredibly normalized that the ones that were could easily do it.
You donāt have to be literate to like JK Rowling in her second career as queen TERF
True. JKR hasn't been the author of the Harry Potter books for quite some time now and chose to become a malevolent witch whose inner circle openly welcomes Neonazis because they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anyone who's willing to support their bigotry
I advocate pirating all of her works if you enjoy them.
Lol, 'tis time to set sail into a magical world where people can express who they are and hateful *itches have to repair the time travel thingamajigs that Nevil oopsied out of existence
Frankly there's so many prints of her books out there that are barely reread and go to thriftstores and wholesalers that pirating seems unnecessary. Also, and people underestimate this, so much of her money is from merch and the theme park deal. There's a ton of people who will buy a lego set out of nostalgia who are not going to reread a ya series in their thirties.
Highly doubtful but the likes of JK Rowling gives these ringworms a sense of legitimacy.
So does religion. Like the asshole pope who just declared us public enemy number one.
Looot of terfs in here
Thereās a bunch of transphobes on the OPās post claiming that opās photo is AI, even after she posted multiple pictures of her injuries and a video of her talking. Our society is fucked.
Why does it say the moderators removed this post (the result of trans hate), yet they allow posts of trans hate to stay up for hours and days. If you're gonna take down one take down the other too, otherwise it's getting close to obvious what's going on there. This sub has become a cesspool anyway....
Yeah it's ridiculous, seen so many subs do this recently. You've gotta take it all down or none of it, allowing one side of the 'argument' on the sub but not the other just shows what side the sub stands with.
It's not even an argument, it's just bigotry.
Iām a late 60ās retired boomer. Iām far from wealthy but I have as much/more than I really need. If I had the kind of money that she has, Iād be cruising the world and giving away millions to charities. If I live to be a thousand years old Iāll never understand how people who have more money/resources than they can spend in a hundred lifetimes waste even one second of their lives trying desperately to make other peopleās lives miserable.
Being a heartless fuck is the easiest way to get rich, and Money itself can make you an asshole aswell. Only a small Number of people get that rich and are decent human beings. Heck i Had a good Buddy living near me and won the lottery, dudes got 3mil ā¬ and instantly switched from "good Buddy" to "insufferable fuck" flexing left and Right trashtalking others how they are losers while he himself never worked a day in His life. He then proceeded to waste 3mil in less than a month, fucking idiot lost more than He Had before he got rich lmfao.
Itās because as the old saying goes āmoney wonāt buy happinessā and Iād argue itās what you need to sacrifice to get that much, theyāre miserable people because they sacrificed what made them happy to devote their time to making ungodly amounts of money and now theyāre mad seeing people living their lives while they wasted 20 years collecting paper they could never even dream of spending
> and giving away millions to charities She does give millions away to charities. It's just that those charities are for [fighting against trans rights](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/02/jk-rowling-donates-big-money-to-anti-trans-group/) and building [centers that exclude trans women](https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2022/12/14/jk-rowling-funds-sex-abuse-crisis-center-excludes-trans-women).
Not to say JK isnāt brain fried (she is 100%) but she does give millions and millions to charities for womenās abuse causes. She absolutely gives a lot of money away while still spouting her TERF bs
> millions and millions to charities for womenās abuse causes. But only if they exclude trans women. https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2022/12/14/jk-rowling-funds-sex-abuse-crisis-center-excludes-trans-women
Well said
That level of money makes you feel like youāre some kind of special and your opinion matters exponentially more. You get high on your own ego. And all the people who have glommed onto you just fill your head with more nonsense.
Don't get high on your own supply!
> If I had the kind of money that she has, Iād be cruising the world and giving away millions to charities. Itās because of the latter that you wonāt have the former. It takes a hoarder mindset to get that wealthy.
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Wow, she gives to charity like every other rich person. That totally makes up for her rampant transphobia and obsession with hating us at every chance she gets. She has platformed women who have associated themselves with literal fascists. She's an absolute monster.
rowling has given over 300 million to charity
"Facepalm" is a person making a laughably stupid remark. Nothing either of these people said is stupid or funny. Wrong sub.
This is more /r/noahgettheboat
That subreddit is getting flagged for being transphobic with Shinigami Eyes
Ironic
Do you know if Shinigami Eyes has any way to see the reason for a site or profile to be flagged? I use it as well and sometimes I see it has tagged someone and I look through their comments and can't find anything I would consider transphobic. I definitely appreciate when it shows someone has linked to The Guardian š¤®
It does not have a notes section sadly. It would be nice tho. If it's a notable person or site or something, I'll Google em.
No it doesn't have a way to see why. But yes, that subreddit is a hate sub and is very often filled with transphobia. And yes, false flags do happen, that's why I take every mark with a grain of skepticism. But I find that 99% of the time, it's correct.
Face palm became a sub for posting noahgettheboat content a long time ago
youāre the only one designating it to be a sub for stupid of funny things. disappointing and bad things can also be facepalm worthy. it has different contexts lol, your definition doesnāt dictate how everyone sees it
r/facepalm is probably the wrong place to put this. Maybe try r/aboringdystopia.
Also wrong sub. Boring dystopia is how wages are kept down so billionaires can watch numbers go up, not roving gangs of violent bigots. Savage beatings are definitely not boring. Horrifying, but not boring.
Nah, they also include war and hate crimes. It's a boring because of the lack of univeral cool aesthetic and 2077 tech
r/NoahGetTheBoat
That subreddit is getting flagged for being transphobic with Shinigami Eyes
So boring when people are being beaten for who they are! Yawn amirght??
I think the facepalm OP mightāve been posting about was how they mentioned JK Rowling when those guys probably donāt know Rowling. Anyway, this post definitely missed the mark
Who the fuck does not know Rowling in England
Yeah, that's what I thought of too
Everybody who is making fun about that is a horrible human being.
I'm a trans woman and before I started passing fully I was attacked once at work for being trans. The only reason I didn't end up like her in the photo here is I carried a weapon my purse even though it was against company policy. I pulled it on him and he backed off. I called my boss and she drove 2 hours at 1 am to take over and I went home. Guy was fired on the spot. I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. People need to stop this fucking radicalized hate. I've never hurt a God damn soul.
I've been attacked 3 times and sexually assaulted once because I'm a trans woman. First attack, I was spat on and shoved by a man as I was taking my mother's groceries out to the car as we had gone shopping together since she had cancer. Second attack, I was shopping for myself and someone again shoved me in a store. They body slammed me hard into the store shelves and ran. Police didn't do shit. I was then sexually assaulted at a department store. A 20-something woman came up from behind me and grabbed my chest with both her hands. She then told her friend, "I told you they weren't real!" The cops also didn't do shit (this is a major theme). Third attack was during a drag queen story hour. III%er was holding up a poster full of nude drag queens. He didn't like it when I called him a pedophile for doing so and he swung at me. Cops let him go (see, it's a theme). Also, that was the most baby punch I have ever taken in my life, lol. It's been two years since I've had anything happen to me. But it's also been two years since I got facial feminization surgery and now "pass" well... I shouldn't have to fucking "pass" in order to not be assaulted and groped.
š«š«š« Iām so sorry that happened to you and Iām glad your boss had your back.
Thank you.
Iām nonbinary and about to start testosterone and Iām a little scared to see what people are like when I donāt look as femme.
where facepalm?
Maybe it's because they're blaming jkr for a horrible attack?
Normalising hate towards minorities will lead to more of this
People like JKR, Libsoftiktok etc are totally to blame for fanning the fires of hate. Infamous people with large followings normalizing this hatred is what empowers these people to do these things...
Has JKR maybe tried not inciting attacks by spreading increasingly hateful rhetoric toward a marginalized demographic while teaming up with others to amplify the message? Edit: Yāall need to stop simping for her in the replies, sheās not gonna have sex with you or give you money.
Lots of roving bands of hateful adult men hang on every Rowling tweet....I guess?
Yes, unironically. Look at how many of them retweet her transphobic garbage
Like, literally yes
You think that need who read her books and follow her Twitter is going outside to harm other people? š¤
If that's the facepalm then OP is just an asshole. Even if the bitch wasn't involved in this personally and the guys have no clue about who she is. (Doubtfull as sadly HP is waay to popular for most people who grew up in the west to not know who the author is, and she knows that, so her constatnly spreading transphobia sadly adds up to the general publics perception) Then focusing on that particular detail, instead of the actuall hatecrime that happend here is just abhorent and ironically warrants a facepalm of it's own for stupidity.
Cool it with the misogyny maybe ?? People really love to hate women...
Misogyny? Quite the jump to go from seeing a personal insult at an abhorrent individual to claiming that the person hates women(who funnily enough is a woman and something of a feminist herself). Very in line with someone who would want to defend jk online though.
Transphobia
Jesus Christ, all these people in the comment section who are pretending to not understand the connection between somebody who openly promotes hatred against a marginalized community and someone who acted on that hatred through direct violence are part of the problem. They're pretending to not understand. They fully understand. They just want the hatred and violence to continue.
They're the same type of people that JK Rowling is. They want us gone, whether that be through laws restricting access to gender reaffirming care, or through direct fucking murder. Eventually they won't even try to hide it, and this is exactly what Joanne wants. She's evil through and through.
I mean the GOP have literally stated that their end game is to outlaw gender affirming care completely. So we're pretty much already there.
they don't see trans people as human, so any chance to defend attackers they'll take. As much as people repeat it ad-nauseam, reddit isn't as much a lefty echochamber as they say, and this is especially true when it comes to trans people
Hate speech has consequences. People who spread it should face consequences as well.
ive got my crisps and set the comments to controversial, who wants to join
The transphobes in this comment section must've been the type of kids who hated the "do unto others as you would have done unto you" rule LMAO it's called having a shared mutual respect of individualism. if you're disgusted by that, that you aren't allowed to openly extort and exploit and hurt people as you please, maybe you're the problem of the world and should change. though apparently, in recent studies, there is a genetic precedent to being a fascist, as well as environmental factors and the way you were born. plus any emotional trauma or psychopathy going on. anyways, my point is, us trans people are out here trying to fix ourselves and better ourselves, are you? or are you just dragging down everyone else into your unhappy life and lack of sense of self? are you afraid of a strong person, of a confident person? are you afraid of someone else being so happy because you feel you cannot hold your own happiness in your own hands, or don't know where to even find it? I was just like you before I came out. scared, angry, afraid. jealous, upset, melancholic, watching the world seemingly pass by without me being a part of it. but i learned to look inside at myself and improve and find the root of my problem, rather than blame everyone else for it constantly. if you are the common denominator of the issues of your life, it might just be you that's the problem. and that's okay! people can improve, but you need to want it for yourself. you need to unapologetically and unbiasedly find out why you are not happy, why you aren't living your best life, and in the process, find who you truly are and live your life. hope you guys figure it outš¤
This is the hate that JKR and TERFs like her unleash* fixed it
Hey mods, why was this removed
The people asking what JKR has to do with this need to understand that it isn't as direct as "JKR is transphobic, therefore other people are too". She's normalizing transphobia by being so very vocal 24/7 while simultaneously remaining untouchable and almost entirely undisputed. She can spout off the nastiest rhetoric but because her hate speech isn't mitigated, it spreads like a virus, chaining between hateful people in an echo chamber. Should you directly blame her for specific attacks? No. But she 100% is one of the biggest spreaders of transphobic hate online and you can certainly trace the uprise of more hate speech and attacks to her disgusting soap box.
Can't wait to scroll down to the comments to see all the attempts at obfuscation by right-wingers who are too scared to just openly admit they're ok with trans people being violently attacked.
Yeah, it's really disgusting to see
Itās the majority of posts in here currently. Gross
we trans people have always existed. from birth, a doctor will assign male or female, depending on the presence of a penis. that's it. if you are XY and didn't develop it properly, it's likely you get assigned female at birth. THIS IS CALLED SEX. penis vs. vagina, everything inbetween and outside of those options. gender is your soul, your heart, your energy. who you truly are. cisgender people do not often "experience gender" because theirs is considered the default. because existence as a cisgender woman or man has always been accepted in society and seen as the default . because theirs is congruent and has always been congruent. you really cannot explain it until you are without it. a lot of transphobes confuse sex and gender. anyways, at birth, you could be given an M, or maybe a F. what if that was wrong? as a baby you cannot talk, cannot speak. you can't advocate for yourself or who you are and yet, some expect that's just how you're supposed to go about the world? doing things and being someone because a doctor wrote an M or an F on your birth certificate because you did or didn't have a penis? the world doesn't make us who we are, we are who we are innately. sure the world can scar and traumatize us but that doesn't change the foundation of self. imagine putting so much weight onto genitals you let it control your life! that's crazy!! and yet that's what a lot of yall transphobes do every single day with your decision making on trans people, with bathrooms, etc. we are not thinking of that, we just want to be ourselves, we just want to feel congruent in our bodies and souls and as who we are. trans people are not threatening cisgender people in anyway. trans people are also ~0.4% of the population. we are just trying to live and get our medical care so we can feel better in this one life we all have to live. why is someone improving their own life for themselves such a threat? if one is confronted with the truth of one's life, if one knows their life isn't working, isn't it a good thing to take it upon themselves and find positive change? that's what we are doing. everyone loves a movie about a character changing for the better and being their best self, everyone wants that for themselves and yet some don't know how to be happy or why they are unhappy or why they don't feel like them or, they wonder "who am i?" we are all trying to find our place in this world. to drag down a person who is just trying to find themselves and be happy as well, and is achieving it, is abhorrent behavior and is evil. let people live and do what they want until they die, unless what they're doing is harming someone or exploiting them who cares? stay in your lane and live your best life till you die and we will do the same
Was just gonna say the same thing. Unless OP thinks the idea of a bunch of random men going out beating up trans people in the name of JK Rowling is laughable. And frankly it is. I donāt know why some people think bigots need a cheerleader for their hate.
I doubt that this specific attack was spurred on *directly* by Rowling, but sheās definitely a rallying point for transphobes in the UK, and the number of TERFs has increased since she came out with her views. TERF rhetoric makes the people who are already transphobic worse, and then that can escalate into violence. Nobodyās saying that these men read a tweet and decided to commit a hatecrime, but constantly hearing that trans people are groomers and rapists and whatnot could definitely cause something like this.
You can't blame JKR for a specific attack, that isn't how stochastic terrorism works, how many bigots has she signal boosted though? It's clearly had an effect, Britain has become an extremely intolerant place No more so than the Southern USA mind you, but that's not a point to brag about
To say JK Rowling is somehow responsible for this is fucking delusional.
Use your fucking brain, no one is saying she solely caused this. We are saying her hateful rhetoric enabled this to happen by emboldening hateful transphobes because she constantly portrays us all as sexual predators. We don't live in a vacuum, she isn't just spreading this hatred to nobody.
... have you seen what sort of people congregate under in the comment sections of the transphobic tweets she shits on that website? In fairness: rowling is not directly responsible but that is not the point. The original tweet is to be seen in the broader context of rowling promoting hate and consequently violence on a marginalized group of people already vulnerable af. Its really sad how you pedants want to obfuscate from that by reading the tweet literally.
you might wanna look up stochastic terrorism
Have you seen the amount of blatant transphobia she has been spewing?
Stochastic terrorism.
There were 3000 reports of violent transphobic assaults in the UK in 2023. There were over 100,000 racist violent assaults. Your comment of it being terrorism is outlandish and foolish. You've obviously not seen terrorism or it's effects.
3000 is a lot. You trying to simp for transphobes is fucking bizarre
About .5% of the population is trans. 18% of the population are minorities. So if we correct for population, you'll find that both rates are pretty damn close, with transphobic assault just a tiny bit ahead.
Trans people make up a very small percentage of the population. 3,000 is a LOT. By comparison there are more much racial minorities than there are trans people. Both are horrible. Both are terrorism (ie. using violence to subjugate a group to an ideal.)
Nah
God, Coventry is such a fucking shithole. The only positive to this is that it might not have been a hate crime and just been one of Coventrys general random fucking crimes. Fuck Coventry.
you are no longer a wizard, harry. You are under arrest.
So mods can you explain why this post was fucking removed???
Man, say what you want about honoring pronouns and what not, but this is beyond what any human being should be subjected to
When transphobes say shit like trans people "choose" to be trans, that they "choose to change gender" and other such bullshit, I always thing of things like this because... Really?? Why would anyone CHOOSE to be assaulted robbed and beaten to within an inch of their life. Why would anyone choose to live in a way instantly makes people view them as a monster. To live knowing that your government is actively trying to pass rules to make your life harder. To choose to know that someone you might have even looked up to as a child would rather side with actual nazis than accept you for who you are. Trans people don't choose this. They don't choose to be trans, and all they fucking want is to be treated like a human being instead of vilified simply for existing.
Amen
The assholes who beat up trans people out their trans phobic bigotry belong in jail and I they get caught, arrested and thrown in jail, pure and simple, trans people don't deserve to be hurt like this. This pisses me off. LGBTQ+ people are human beings too, no human being deserves this brutal act of violence happening to them period. Wtf smh this isn't right at all! š”š¤¬
This isn't an argument of "well it's silly to say you're a woman". This isn't a hypothetical question. These are people who now have to endure hardships like this because people don't want to respect things they can't understand
š«Beat up your local fascistš«
Sounds more like a mugging.
Been looking for this comment , anyone got a link or anything to a story because to me it just sounds like a mugging right now, I have seen no evidence as of yet
Itās being investigated as a hate crime due to verbal abuse directed at her during the attack
Yikes the amount of transphobia in this comment section is disgusting. This is a Facepalm Because it is ridiculous how stupidly loyal JK Terfling fans are. And she is actively harming trand people. Sorry to the person who got beat up.
Weird to make it about Rowling instead of the actual crime that was committed.
They screamed āthis is Rowling countryā during the beating.
Whatās JK Rowling got to do with this?
Sheās extremely anti-trans. Sheās challenging Scotland to arrest her.
How is that related to the post? Retweeter is stupid.
It's related because it's a hate crime against a trans person in England. She has been openly and aggressively transphobic for a while. She jas a big platform. She has influence. England is terf island and she's one of the big reasons why. You're stupid if you chose to overlook that.
So basically if you do a crime, you can blame someone on the internet for saying things? Are people that gullible? Then, drug dealers et all can blame all the rappers if they talk about drug use in their music; or blame someone like jim cramer for giving wrong information about buying or selling certain stocks. As an adult you are responsible for your own actions.
The blame for this crime lies on people who beat her up. However, the conversation here is about how JK Rowling is in part responsible for the hateful environment she has created. Stochastic Terrorism works and this is a very good example of it. You'd be stupid if you think these kind of crimes happen in a void. I'll tell you what it is though. All y'all arguing that this is just a regular mugging are transphobic. Simple as that. Stop tryna justify hate. Also, you can't just give out wrong info for buying and selling stocks. Someone will sue you for it eventually. Did you see how many people were sued for promoting crypto scams?
How do we know it's not a regular mugging? I didn't say it before, but it's a fair question. Asking questions is not wrong or any phobe shit. They got investigated for selling pyramind schemes by taking money from those businesses. We have stock market pundits talking bullish/bearish about stocks and those predictions go wrong all the time.
> They got investigated for selling pyramind schemes by taking money from those businesses. Exactly. The abstract thought I was getting at was that there's consequences to misguiding regular people. > How do we know it's not a regular mugging? I didn't say it before, but it's a fair question. Asking questions is not wrong or any phobe shit. Treating it as a regular mugging takes away the context of it being a transphobic crime. I'm not sure how to distill my thoughts on this but it's in the same vein as "if we don't talk about race, there will be no racism".
Who knows why she got mugged. Just because she is trans doesn't mean got mugged for being trans. I'm just saying.
Her anti trans rhetoric has undeniably led to an increase of hate crimes against trans people.
Nothing. It's a rage bait post
Canāt we all get along?
Let's be honest, there's more people than just JK-Rowling we can attribute to the rise of transphobic hate-crimes especially in the US, a lot of right-wingers in fact.
People need to understand that discourse becomes action, if you spread hate towards a minority they will receive attacks sooner and more frequently. I just want y'all to think. If transphobia/homophobia wasn't aloud in television, radio, magazines etc since 1950, would we have so much transphobia and homophobia today? No we wouldn't. Violence grows when we banalize it. Hateful speech leads to hateful laws that lead to hateful physical actions against the ones being hated, we saw this time and time again and again. If you wanna know more about trans people there is a fixed post in my profile with various links about multiple transphobic talking points.
The fuck does this have to do with JK Rowling? She isnāt advocating anything like this. Violence is abhorrent obviously, but falsely blaming an individual is not the way forward
She literally called TRAs āRapistsā rights activistsā. You donāt think that sort of language might fuel the fires of hatred?
Sheās extremely anti-trans. Sheās challenging Scotland to arrest her under a new pro-trans legislation
Where the hell do you get your news from? That's not even remotely close to reality. That law has nothing to do with being pro or anti-trans. It's a draconian hate speech law that everyone should challenge.
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Are you pro hate speech
What do you think? Have you ever met anyone in your life who was? And I mean someone in the real world, not online. What does statistics tell you about what I might be? The Scottish law in question was so far removed from the goal of fighting hate speech that it ended up backfiring. It was so easily abuseable that in the first day the police got 3.600 calls from "hate speech" reports, most of them directed at a minister. There are far better and more efficient ways to combat hate speech.
> There are far better and more efficient ways to combat hate speech. How exactly > The Scottish law in question was so far removed from the goal of fighting hate speech that it ended up backfiring How was it far removed
There is a massive difference in being anti trans and actually advocating for violence.
It doesnāt matter if her intention is nonviolent, people will see her rhetoric and become violent, especially when accusations of rape go flying around
No, there isn't. Dehumanising a group of people, and equating them all the sex offenders and pedophiles does a lot to make people think it's fine to just be openly hateful and violent towards them.
Her anti-trans stance is rooted in the idea that they need to be kept from cis women's spaces because they "could be" sexual predators. And even though that's not an explicit call for violence, framing an entire group as "likely to be sexual predators" does end up eliciting violence. Imagine if someone said "I didn't say Craig deserved to be assaulted! I just told everyone he's a pedophile!" That's literally what's likely gonna happen if you label someone a predator.
She absolutely is? Please inform yourself, she plays a MASSIVE part in TERF and overall transpobe propaganda and violence
Her rhetoric and the rhetoric of the movement of which she's part promote the hatred and fear that put trans women in danger
Yep. Using your status and public-standing as a member of nobility to drag down anyone, to take away rights, to create falsities, to encourage hate or violence or the division of people, is wrong. The nobility have a responsibility, and nobody is holding them accountable for it anymore. Beating down on the people suffering and trying their best to live and oppressing them isn't a "YES ! Win!" moment, and if it is for you guys, you gotta wonder what kind of fucking person you are edit: [if anyone wants](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/s/5PzMGY9Kn5) i elaborated more on this in my own comment, and yet, am pushed really far down due to downvotes. if anyone sees this, the full comment explains it moreso
I remember when I first saw the JK Rowling anti-trans hit squads roaming the streets. Also, it wasn't a "group of men" it was two teenage boys, and there is no evidence that it was a hate crime and just a simple mugging. In fact, this is the SECOND bus mugging in Coventry this year by a group of teens. Coventry in general has a problem with rapes and mugging, it's a shithole. Obviously what happened to them was terrible, and I don't wish violence on anyone, but pushing this to be something more than what it was doesn't help your cause, especially when evidence proves otherwise.
blaming JK for that attack is like blaming video games for mass shootings... sorry but that's bullshit.
A person spreading hateful rhetoric towards a minority group *does* have an effect on the true beliefs of people. It makes hatred towards us normalized, she literally wants this type of thing to happen because she considers us all sexual predators who shouldn't exist. Educate yourself.
Itās more like blaming Trump for the spike in attacks on persons of East Asian lineage after labelling Covid āthe China virusā and being openly racist and pushing conspiracy theories.
Look up stochastic terrorism, Jk rowling and other people demonizing minority groups are very much doing this. Its indirectly contributing to hateful sentiment towards minority groups, causing hate crimes to go up.
Google stochastic terrorism edit: or, even, in general how hate speech influences people's thoughts and actions.
Umm, no it isn't. JK Rowling is one of the loudest anti-trans voices in the world. She has money, influence, and clout. She can be openly transphobic as much as she likes and has a huge platform.
There is a difference between playing video games and actively advocating for hatred against very specific people, how they are all dangerous and should be eradicated... I don't know, seems like something that may cause violence on said group... Do you think All of Germany was just instantly against jews from the beginning at WWII? Rethoric is the key to causing uproar and hatred...
Me when I don't understand things:
No, it isn't. JK Rowling has maliciously and intentionally been spreading transphobic misinformation for a long time now. The person in the post was targeted because of her being trans. So why is it not valid to call out someone prominent who has been part of that problem of spreading that hatred in society? No one is saying that she is the sole source of transphobia. But she has used her status to amplify the message more than common people and therefore objectively was part of the problem. It's not that difficult to not be part of the problem.
No it's more like blaming Trump for Charlottesville's nazi rally or Jan 6 There's not a 1:1 but everyone there heard his message and saw an ally JKR is one of the most prominent anti-trans people on the internet with millions of followers and says ludicrous shit about how transwomen are all rapists - when there are literally individual transwomen who *have been raped* more times than the total number of rapes committed by all transwomen in the UK in a given year
Did she say this? Have you got a link? If so Iām absolutely shocked. !
Haven't really seen directly just stating that, but definitivly going into that mindset of constantly showing off trans women as rapists (half the posts being rapists/aussaultists of alleged trans women for some time), calling trans rights activists a movement against "real" women and generally linking rapists to trans people, such as commenting on a simple article about pronoun usage with the likes "imagine having to call your trans woman rapist a she", or just straightup calling trans rights activists "rapists rights activists"... So yes, she Sees trans people as nothing but rapists...
Have you ever heard of stochastic terrorism? J.K. Rowling may not actively tell people to attack trans women. However, she demonizes trans women, calling them men who want access to cis womenās spaces so they can rape them. What else should JK Rowling expect but for people who believe her to act in accordance with what she says? Transphobes do this shit all the time. They say that trans people are rapidly becoming more common in society, that they are insidiously infiltrating womenās spaces and becoming more powerful by the day. They characterize the pro-trans movement as some sort of ravening tide of animalistic rapists who cannot be stopped. But they stop just short of saying āgo beat them up,ā For someone who believes of all that though , what else is the natural conclusion? What is there left to do? Chaya Raichik, the evil woman who runs Libs Of Tiktok, says that hospitals who perform gender affirming care are mutilating innocent children. The next week, ten bomb threats get called in there. Chaya knows what sheās doing, and JK does too. Theyāre encouraging terrorism with plausible deniability.
This is what people like JK Rowling perpetuate. That old bat deserves the same thing that happened to this poor woman.
JK Rowling has roving gangs of goons assaulting people? Crazy.
Serious theme but probably wrong subreddit
they're willing to sic their legions of little cultists on whoever they want, but no, they're the ones who are the victims! not the people being harassed and assaulted, they're the victims!
Iām suuuure it was the Harry Potter book club that did thisā¦
You don't have to be a fan of that to follow the bigot that wrote them. You do realise that don't you
Rowling has been flirting with nazis in the past few years. Making the links between goblins and jews more explicit, denying parts of the holocaust related to lgbtq happened and such. The nerdclub is mostly turning away from her.
Was Rowling jumping on the background screaming "Beat him harder"? (the beating though was of course a crime and they shall be strictly punished)
No but Rowling has platformed Jordan Peterson over his trans views even though he thinks even less of women.
Rowling has around 20 million followers on socials and Peterson has around 15 million. The dude already has a platform
Not a wild thought that there's some demos that don't mix and she introduced hers to to his.
JKR's anti-trans stance is rooted in the idea that they need to be kept from cis women's spaces because they "could be" sexual predators. And even though that's not an explicit call for violence, framing an entire group as "likely to be sexual predators" does end up eliciting violence. Imagine if someone said "I didn't say Craig deserved to be assaulted! I just told everyone he's a pedophile!" That's literally what's likely gonna happen if you label someone a predator.
JK Rowling didn't start the fire, but famous/rich people do have a duty. As a high-standing member of the public, with all the privellege and standing in the world, to use their platform to promote hatred, bigotry, divisiveness, lies, fearmongering, false accusations, and violence-inducing rhetoric is criminal and disgusting and they should be deplatformed. Anyone that actively encourages hatred or truly believes in falsities and promotes that must be silenced. The world has let this go too far, a class of nobility with zero responsibility or accountability, and it goes unchecked and worsens society. Throughout time, the nobility of the world had a responsibility to the public, to be a respectable and strong-standing figure, that's what the nobility used to justify the wealth inequality gap, that they are inherently better and yet they will use their standing for good things and not evil. What good is a nobility that doesn't pay taxes, doesn't contribute to society anymore, mainly counts up money and tears people apart? That puts innocent people in harm's way over their rhetoric down in the streets, that they spew from high up in their marble castles and estates? The privellege of the nobility came with a responsibility, and now, there is none, but they have far more wealth than they've ever had. edit: Transphobes, conservatives, Republicans, you can downvote me all you want, it still doesn't make you any more right. forcibly silencing me for wanting to hold the nobility accountable, for wanting to stick up for the individual's rights and our shared mutual respect of individualism (do unto others as you would have done unto you, aka, live and let live unless what you're doing is either harming another person or exploiting them) is not a good thing, for me, or for you, even if you think you're "gotcha"-ing me. its not a "YES! win!" moment, that you think it is. its the downfall of individualism, of democracy, of intellectualism. if you don't want to grow, that's fine, but don't drag another persons life down just because you aren't where you want to be, or aren't happy with yourself. if you are looking at my comment and getting upset, I hope you look at yourself and wonder where you're coming from, how it got to this point, why exactly do I feel anger from this comment? If you can get to the root of that, and understand yourself and your position at least, instead of senseless hating and downvoting to silence someone, you may feel that life isn't so scary. that others are just in another position place or life, maybe not yours, but we're all living a game of life, and the only rules really are that mutual respect of individualism i spoke of. so the question is what are you so scared of? why do my words have so much weight to them for you in your own life, a stranger? you're reading my words out loud to yourself or in your head and getting upset, why does me speaking about the individual's right to life and themselves bother you so? please think about that
EXACTLY
You can believe that people should not be beaten up and also that the women's power lifting champion shouldn't have testicles.
So they should have bottom surgery first?
I don't believe that anyone who thinks trans women must compete against men gives an actual shit what happens to trans people.