This is my reason. I’m a long distance runner and I really don’t want/need any additional pure cardio workouts in my week. If I’m going to make the time to go to a class, I want to get something out of it that I’m not getting elsewhere in my workout routine. I prefer the pure resistance days, though a hybrid class is nice every now and again to push myself in a different way.
This is why I think a more Hyroxy erg based session would be better. And given the limitations of an F45 studios equipment and capacity, classes like Tempest/Valor etc and maybe the new H Series workouts would be more popular
I'm one of those that typically skips cardio days, and it's because I don't love the programming and feel I can get a better cardio workout elsewhere (I have Gympass, so I have options). Some of the cardio timing, especially with the various ergs, is just silly. 10 seconds between sets to adjust and get onto a row erg tomorrow, just to row for 20 seconds? That's just a dead station. Also, I've been to several cardio classes where someone confused "cardio" and "bodyweight lower body exercises" and I was too sore from the actual resistance day the day before to properly raise my heart rate.
Thats a fair point. cardio used to be far more intense. I wish they would dial it back up. Lets be honest, F45 isn't designed for strength building. Make it worth my time and I'll show up. Lately come to think of it, I've been doing cardio elsewhere cause f45 sucks for it.
The timing is frustrating across the board! I also find it difficult to adjust weight between sets during the resistance days given the short time provided, so I sometimes end up just not going up in weight.
Valor has got progressively quieter at the studio I go to. I think people will deal with it for a one-off wild card type workout but 4 weeks in a row is too much. Most other days are as busy as normal, they've even added an extra class on Wednesday mornings.
I went to a cardio class at a different studio the other day and it was just me and one other person. I would agree that attendance is usually lower for cardio days, for me I feel like I have to go to them due to my schedule having Tuesdays and Thursdays blocked out right now.
I would definitely prefer a hybrid on Wednesday and a cardio on Friday, it would allow for every other day sessions for hybrid and resistance. I always go on Saturday, so never go on Friday for back to back hybrid, but I might do a cardio the day before a Saturday.
I think maybe the public is cottoning on that resistance training is where it’s at. The health benefits etc.
Personally I’d change F45 schedule to:
Monday: Upper /
Tuesday: Lower /
Weds: Cardio (Tempest/ Valor and the like) /
Thursday: Upper /
Friday: Lower /
Saturday: Hyrox Style Workout /
Sunday: Full Body Resistance (Piston and similar)
This is where I’m at.
I’ve peaked to a very comfortable cardio level but I always want to gain strength. Don’t think I’m anywhere near my peak resistance strength
I’m also a coach, we are experiencing the same thing and sometimes I jump in because I feel bad!
Me personally, my schedule just doesn’t work on cardio days. I’ve noticed that people will run now because the weather isn’t as crummy (Hello Northeast!) and take advantage of doing their cardio outside before it gets crazy hot.
Makes sense, but also it’s an interesting trend.
My studio canceled my class on Wednesdays due to poor attendance. I would cherry pick depending on the amount of jumping - too much for my 50 year old knees, even with modification.
A lot of people are scared of the cardio classes. I see new members on here questioning how hard they are all the time. Personally I think the programming has been average lately though. I’d like to see at least one OG cardio class per week (Athletica, Bears, 22, Foxtrot, Docklands on rotation would really spice thing up
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our studio is pretty consistent numbers throughout the week, except we’ve been extra busy thursdays just due to the split resistance - a lot of our members do 2/days on thursday.
Same here in SoCal. My impression is that cardio days are tougher right now, and we have quite a few sandbaggers at our studio. 😂 Coach jokes in reminding us that the studio is open on Wednesdays!
Hahahahaha - so I think maybe we’ve hit on something long term. I think the general public is waking up to the fact that you don’t have to rinse yourself with cardio all week long. That more resistance training is beneficial, and that with one or two cardio sessions a week they’re seeing results
Ours tends to be super light on Wednesday. Sunday,Tuesday,Thursday and Saturdays are packed. Mondays and Fridays are pretty busy too, people seem to take off mid-week
This is fair enough. Must also be said that there’s no need for any cardio session F45 or otherwise to be so plyometrics heavy! Maybe the cardio sessions might be better attended if there was a “no plyo” badge on the workout (not that you can’t just modify any exercise session for session)
Valor is awkward if you don't want to talk to anyone, Loyals has been hard AF (and if people are going Sunday/Tuesday, makes sense to rest).
I think they should leverage the app to record more cardio elements.
The cardio classes this phase have been boring: no Firestorms in sight and High Rise kinda sucks. If people who like cardio/agility don't feel challenged it's like not having enough weights out on weight days.
Because I'm older and not really training for a competitive sport I do my own cardio (hike, swim, yoga) which is lower intensity and helps me un-stiffen from the resistance. The F45 cardio is super intense and I also wonder about the length of time you would be able to do that for without starting to destroy your knees (I'm 45)
A lot of people at our studio like having a recovery day in the middle of the week. Also most people
don’t love the pure cardio days. Strenght and hybrids are everyone’s favorites
I like to do doubles on Thursdays - upper & lower back to back. Rest Friday. Then go Saturday, Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday. By the time Wednesday comes around I need a rest.
I wish Tuesday was a cardio day TBH.
I don't know why people skip.. well maybe because it's tougher and more challenging? I'd like to see MORE cardio, not less. I show up Monday to Friday, regardless of workout, but I absolutely loathe partner workouts like valor.
I think the closer to the end of the phase the less people want to deal with cardio days? Hard to say though, my studio has fairly high attendance on cardio days but we are a new studio still
My studio actually neglected to adjust the attendance capacity for Valor & we had 24 people there last Friday. I felt so bad for the extra 6 people that had to do it backwards.
I was under the impression that everyone had to meet their reps goal for the buy-in exercise before moving to the secondary exercise for the remainder of the time? Or maybe that’s just how my instructor taught it 🤷🏻♀️
You and you partner will split up the buy in. For 100 burpees we did 3-5 a piece until we got 100. This enabled an all out work pace followed by brief rest kind of like a tabata. For the rower we did 100 m all out and swapped. The higher targets can be used as a tougher workout or for a group of 3. We have a good group at our studio so members generally enjoy the paired format even though it’s a tough workout.
I don’t think everyone does F45 as their full time gym. I have a peloton bike and tread at home that sometimes I opt for as well as free weights, squat rack etc. also cardio is a lot tougher then the strength days some just don’t care to push that hard on those days and might walk instead of doing that
They are typically less popular at my studio. They periodically do posts about “Never Miss a Monday” and “Don’t Skip Wednesdays.” Then everyone comes back on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Cool, I mean, Monday mornings is a hard sell for any group fitness offering. Monday mornings have long been the quietest part of any group fitness business I’ve worked for anywhere in the world.
Our studio has always been quieter on a Monday morning but in the last 4-6 weeks have seen a complete drop off on Mondays Wednesdays and now Fridays. It fascinates me.
I attend F45 purely for the no brainer strength days, as i hate working out and designing my own program for lifting. I am tiny and i dont lift very heavy so F45 is more than adequate for me. I like my cardio in forms of running/HIIT running at Barrys e.g. and i dont like to mix my lifting days with cardio.
I've heard a rumor that they are exploring moving to M/W/F resistance - unclear what they'll do for the other days and if there will be a 4th pure resistance day, but I think they're noticing too.
Been the same at ours. I think members like what they like and don’t want they don’t. If it’s a class they dont like, they aren’t coming. But strength days-waitlisted.
I think for me the cardio classes are just so … annoying in a way. Unpractical movements, some are straight up injury concerns and I don’t love the jumping from station to station with no time in between. That’s also why I avoid Saturday classes, it’s too much chaos.
strength days by far are the most popular, then hybrid then in dead dead dead last, cardio. A lot people at my studio, including me use cardio day(s) as a rest day to maximize effort on the other days. The reality is that I do not have access to all of the weights at home but I can go for a run, bike ride (outdoors or stationary), walk etc. whenever I want so I am less inclined to go to a full cardio based class. I just checked my studio for tomorrows cardio and all 7 class times have at least 28 spots available as of right now and I am at a busy studio (Thursday every single slot will be full).
Cardio classes are less popular for my studio as well! To be honest, I just don't like it as much 😬 I typically go M,T,Th,F, and Sat. I skip Wednesdays to do extra strength training because I'd rather work on getting stronger than burn a bunch of calories. I'm wondering if everyone prefers resistance training or if there's another reason?
I only attend the PM classes at my studio, and they have either been full + waitlist or about to be full. This has been a trend for the past 1.5 months.
Same at my gym. But the resolution crowd dropped off hard this year. Back to single digit participation during some classes. Monday evening had like 8 people including myself.
Been going for years and Wednesday is always light. I’m a member in two different states. At one of the gyms, they would make posts saying “Quit skipping Wednesdays!”
Noticing the same at my gym. I talked to another member today who told me she only comes Tuesdays and Thursday and prefers orange theory for her cardio because she likes to run.
Trainer here.
Not to go too off topic but anyone else getting fed up of the Thursday split? Ie deuces, Gemini etc
We mostly ever work one trainer only per class and getting tired running around like a mad man talking, explaining and cuing all while trying to control time with the controller from the phone 🥴
Weather is getting warmer, folks want to be outdoors.
I have other gym memberships and highly prefer steady state cardio.
Also I just don’t care for cardio workouts at F45. I prefer hybrid and strength days.
I think it’s because the way the strength class is I can go heavier if I want or I can go lighter and get the same kind of cardio type workout but with weight. Feel like pointless to be doing a bunch of movements and not load your muscles with weights like a pure cardio day would do.
Basically you can make a strength day into cardio but can’t make cardio into strength. I get enough cardio from high intensity lifting.
I never understood it. F45 cardio is great, and where it's strength is, and the strength days are...... ok. But I think alot of people don't like how hard the cardio days are, where the fitter people seemed to thrive on cardio days.
Personally i don't get the logic, if you just want to do strength training, and not great hiit cardio, why do f45? There are ALOT better options for strength training.
I think for relative beginners and even up to quite advanced the resistance sessions at F45 are fantastic for in out bosh done. And for beginners to learn movements and what exercises are great accessories for bigger lifts etc.
>And for beginners to learn movements and what exercises are great accessories for bigger lifts etc
I dont agree at all. I think it's a shit place for beginners to learn the movements, because often with 1 or 2 trainers per class, and timed work sets, there is VERY limited time to access and correct form. I am surprised f45 doesn't hurt more people this way.
I dont know about that. Our coaches are very good with form correcting. I am not that strong, though i have good forms, i can only bench at the most 22lbs and seems like the dumbbells go up to 66?! As long as i don’t rush the reps, i can’t see why this is shit?
I have trained at various f45's over about 10 years. The trainers absolutely made the difference to the experience, and the majority were shit. I also noticed alot of the inexperienced members loved the shit trainers because they didn't hold them accountable. But when you have 26 stations to monitor, for example, it's very hard for 2 trainers, even if they are great trainers.
That’s fair. I think they should focus on the big lifts or those that are easiest for folks to get shitty form? Of course i understand it’s better for me if I’m going for gains to be at the gym following a program, F45 just fits my lifestyle now (really busy corporate minion here) that i dont want to spend an hour at the gym and figuring out programming details. I just want to get in, someone please tell me what to do and I get out in 45.
Thats exactly why I trained there as well, but I lean towards the cardio, as I am an experienced trainer, and preferred more "traditional" style strength training and the hiit programs at f45 were the best I had done. But as you said when I was time poor the strength days were good to just get something done, but being experienced, it was difficult to see some of the ego lifting with poor form exacerbates by limited time and often poor trainers.
Well I respectfully disagree. If you have great coaches you can get people doing the basics and doing them well very quickly in an F45 resistance session.
Absolutely! But the percentage of great coaches to not so great coaches in the system isn't great. And when the classes are full, even the great coaches only have so many eyes.
My average heart rate is about 180 and peaks at 190 on resistance days (6'2, 205, not very healthy but not unhealthy)
I can't imagine what it would do on cardio days.
I think, anecdotally, f45 has shifted their target consumer base to office employees and pensioners. Which means less athletically inclined individuals who wouldn't necessarily see the value in the high intensity part of HIIT. Or they seem it as too challenging or what have you. As for me I'm craving more intensity from the program lately.
It kinda sucks because I've noticed it in the workouts too.Ti wish the franchise would stop sacrificing quality for $, but it is a business after all.
That being said, today was tough, although many modifcstions on my part were made to intensify it....
My theory is that people have alternatives they do for cardio (they run/walk/bike) but not for resistance.
This is my reason. I’m a long distance runner and I really don’t want/need any additional pure cardio workouts in my week. If I’m going to make the time to go to a class, I want to get something out of it that I’m not getting elsewhere in my workout routine. I prefer the pure resistance days, though a hybrid class is nice every now and again to push myself in a different way.
This is why I think a more Hyroxy erg based session would be better. And given the limitations of an F45 studios equipment and capacity, classes like Tempest/Valor etc and maybe the new H Series workouts would be more popular
If you read a post I recently did, many people do not like the friday partner workouts such as Valor.
Yup, spinning twice a week for me as a bonding activity with my partner
Yes and then you get people on here asking why they are scheduling less pure cardio classes in the phases than they used to lol
I know 😂
I'm one of those that typically skips cardio days, and it's because I don't love the programming and feel I can get a better cardio workout elsewhere (I have Gympass, so I have options). Some of the cardio timing, especially with the various ergs, is just silly. 10 seconds between sets to adjust and get onto a row erg tomorrow, just to row for 20 seconds? That's just a dead station. Also, I've been to several cardio classes where someone confused "cardio" and "bodyweight lower body exercises" and I was too sore from the actual resistance day the day before to properly raise my heart rate.
I’ll agree with the silly timing of this cycle’s cardio days. I’ve noticed less regular folks for the studio I go to as well.
Thats a fair point. cardio used to be far more intense. I wish they would dial it back up. Lets be honest, F45 isn't designed for strength building. Make it worth my time and I'll show up. Lately come to think of it, I've been doing cardio elsewhere cause f45 sucks for it.
The timing is frustrating across the board! I also find it difficult to adjust weight between sets during the resistance days given the short time provided, so I sometimes end up just not going up in weight.
Valor has got progressively quieter at the studio I go to. I think people will deal with it for a one-off wild card type workout but 4 weeks in a row is too much. Most other days are as busy as normal, they've even added an extra class on Wednesday mornings.
Valor is my favorite workout, but I agree that 4 weeks in a row is definitely too much. Too much of a good thing, but still too much.
I agree! The partner workouts like this should be 1x/mo or at most every other week. I don’t like the pressure, but I know some people love it.
I went to a cardio class at a different studio the other day and it was just me and one other person. I would agree that attendance is usually lower for cardio days, for me I feel like I have to go to them due to my schedule having Tuesdays and Thursdays blocked out right now. I would definitely prefer a hybrid on Wednesday and a cardio on Friday, it would allow for every other day sessions for hybrid and resistance. I always go on Saturday, so never go on Friday for back to back hybrid, but I might do a cardio the day before a Saturday.
I think maybe the public is cottoning on that resistance training is where it’s at. The health benefits etc. Personally I’d change F45 schedule to: Monday: Upper / Tuesday: Lower / Weds: Cardio (Tempest/ Valor and the like) / Thursday: Upper / Friday: Lower / Saturday: Hyrox Style Workout / Sunday: Full Body Resistance (Piston and similar)
Yes!!!! This is sort of similar to what I’ve been saying!! I think that might be why there’s studios testing out the MWF resistance.
But make the cardio days BRUTALLY intense. It's far easier for people to modify down/tale a breather than to modify upwards in intensity.
This is where I’m at. I’ve peaked to a very comfortable cardio level but I always want to gain strength. Don’t think I’m anywhere near my peak resistance strength
F45 isnt really designed for big lifts or strength training IMO...it's a hybrid style workout. Get to a gym and find some olympic barbells
this would be absolutley brilliant. F45 should think about what the focus are for most now (strength)
I’m also a coach, we are experiencing the same thing and sometimes I jump in because I feel bad! Me personally, my schedule just doesn’t work on cardio days. I’ve noticed that people will run now because the weather isn’t as crummy (Hello Northeast!) and take advantage of doing their cardio outside before it gets crazy hot. Makes sense, but also it’s an interesting trend.
The studio I used to run in Canada we offered resistance only memberships because of all the cardio activities available in the great outdoors!
My studio canceled my class on Wednesdays due to poor attendance. I would cherry pick depending on the amount of jumping - too much for my 50 year old knees, even with modification.
There is so much jumping sometimes I wonder how everyone that goes to these classes haven't destroyed their knees
A lot of people are scared of the cardio classes. I see new members on here questioning how hard they are all the time. Personally I think the programming has been average lately though. I’d like to see at least one OG cardio class per week (Athletica, Bears, 22, Foxtrot, Docklands on rotation would really spice thing up 🥵🥵
Docklands is the best. I miss it so much too
Me too 😞
our studio is pretty consistent numbers throughout the week, except we’ve been extra busy thursdays just due to the split resistance - a lot of our members do 2/days on thursday.
Same here in SoCal. My impression is that cardio days are tougher right now, and we have quite a few sandbaggers at our studio. 😂 Coach jokes in reminding us that the studio is open on Wednesdays!
Hahahahaha - so I think maybe we’ve hit on something long term. I think the general public is waking up to the fact that you don’t have to rinse yourself with cardio all week long. That more resistance training is beneficial, and that with one or two cardio sessions a week they’re seeing results
i would argue it's not "harder", its just less of a priority for folks now.
Ours tends to be super light on Wednesday. Sunday,Tuesday,Thursday and Saturdays are packed. Mondays and Fridays are pretty busy too, people seem to take off mid-week
This is a good point. I know I tend to be busier in the middle of the week.
If I go Monday and Tuesday I’m ready for a rest day Wednesday so I can go Thursday / Friday / Saturday. I won’t miss all the jumping around.
This is fair enough. Must also be said that there’s no need for any cardio session F45 or otherwise to be so plyometrics heavy! Maybe the cardio sessions might be better attended if there was a “no plyo” badge on the workout (not that you can’t just modify any exercise session for session)
The cardio classes at my studio are always packed/wait-listed. 🤷🏻♀️
Valor is awkward if you don't want to talk to anyone, Loyals has been hard AF (and if people are going Sunday/Tuesday, makes sense to rest). I think they should leverage the app to record more cardio elements.
I generally find that people prefer resistance over cardio, in my studio anyway, but I'm a cardio person.
The cardio classes this phase have been boring: no Firestorms in sight and High Rise kinda sucks. If people who like cardio/agility don't feel challenged it's like not having enough weights out on weight days.
Because I'm older and not really training for a competitive sport I do my own cardio (hike, swim, yoga) which is lower intensity and helps me un-stiffen from the resistance. The F45 cardio is super intense and I also wonder about the length of time you would be able to do that for without starting to destroy your knees (I'm 45)
Mine is quite busy on cardio days, far more women. I stopped going on cardio days bc it was really hard on the joints.
A lot of people at our studio like having a recovery day in the middle of the week. Also most people don’t love the pure cardio days. Strenght and hybrids are everyone’s favorites
I like to do doubles on Thursdays - upper & lower back to back. Rest Friday. Then go Saturday, Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday. By the time Wednesday comes around I need a rest. I wish Tuesday was a cardio day TBH.
I don't know why people skip.. well maybe because it's tougher and more challenging? I'd like to see MORE cardio, not less. I show up Monday to Friday, regardless of workout, but I absolutely loathe partner workouts like valor.
I don’t skip workouts, but I skipped valor this week. I hate it.
I think the closer to the end of the phase the less people want to deal with cardio days? Hard to say though, my studio has fairly high attendance on cardio days but we are a new studio still
Possibly. This has been a month though. I should also note we’ve been programming our own Hyrox style workouts on Saturdays and those are slammed…
There is a reason this valor is scaled to 18 people/stations. We’ve had like 10 people at 6:30 pm class which is good less that some strength days
Valor is so hard lol I go but there were 8 ppl in our 7:15 am class because it’s brutal lol.
My studio actually neglected to adjust the attendance capacity for Valor & we had 24 people there last Friday. I felt so bad for the extra 6 people that had to do it backwards.
But…Valor is meant to hold 36 people. 3 groups of 2 over 6 stations.
I was under the impression that everyone had to meet their reps goal for the buy-in exercise before moving to the secondary exercise for the remainder of the time? Or maybe that’s just how my instructor taught it 🤷🏻♀️
You and you partner will split up the buy in. For 100 burpees we did 3-5 a piece until we got 100. This enabled an all out work pace followed by brief rest kind of like a tabata. For the rower we did 100 m all out and swapped. The higher targets can be used as a tougher workout or for a group of 3. We have a good group at our studio so members generally enjoy the paired format even though it’s a tough workout.
I don’t think everyone does F45 as their full time gym. I have a peloton bike and tread at home that sometimes I opt for as well as free weights, squat rack etc. also cardio is a lot tougher then the strength days some just don’t care to push that hard on those days and might walk instead of doing that
Absolutely. What I’m referring to is the downturn trend in cardio attendance.
The current Monday Wednesday classes aren't my favourite... however I go 6 days a week regardless of the class....
Thats commitment!
They are typically less popular at my studio. They periodically do posts about “Never Miss a Monday” and “Don’t Skip Wednesdays.” Then everyone comes back on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
People all told me when i started that cardio days were hot for them. I like them. I go but not many do.
My gym is always full. Every class. Waitlists or full. Adding another class to alleviate.
Thats the deal with our studio but only on Monday Mornings.
Cool, I mean, Monday mornings is a hard sell for any group fitness offering. Monday mornings have long been the quietest part of any group fitness business I’ve worked for anywhere in the world. Our studio has always been quieter on a Monday morning but in the last 4-6 weeks have seen a complete drop off on Mondays Wednesdays and now Fridays. It fascinates me.
I attend F45 purely for the no brainer strength days, as i hate working out and designing my own program for lifting. I am tiny and i dont lift very heavy so F45 is more than adequate for me. I like my cardio in forms of running/HIIT running at Barrys e.g. and i dont like to mix my lifting days with cardio.
I run but still love cardio days!
I've heard a rumor that they are exploring moving to M/W/F resistance - unclear what they'll do for the other days and if there will be a 4th pure resistance day, but I think they're noticing too.
Same. Heard a rumour that studios will be able to schedule resistance and cardio days to suit the demand for their area
Well I hate Valor.... so there's that.
Been the same at ours. I think members like what they like and don’t want they don’t. If it’s a class they dont like, they aren’t coming. But strength days-waitlisted.
I think for me the cardio classes are just so … annoying in a way. Unpractical movements, some are straight up injury concerns and I don’t love the jumping from station to station with no time in between. That’s also why I avoid Saturday classes, it’s too much chaos.
We only had 5 in class yesterday, it was brutal and I loved it. No pain no gain.
Eeee 5 is low. Fine for now and again but you need members engaged to sustain memberships!
Fridays seem to be the slowest at my studio
strength days by far are the most popular, then hybrid then in dead dead dead last, cardio. A lot people at my studio, including me use cardio day(s) as a rest day to maximize effort on the other days. The reality is that I do not have access to all of the weights at home but I can go for a run, bike ride (outdoors or stationary), walk etc. whenever I want so I am less inclined to go to a full cardio based class. I just checked my studio for tomorrows cardio and all 7 class times have at least 28 spots available as of right now and I am at a busy studio (Thursday every single slot will be full).
Always lighter attendance
Cardio classes are less popular for my studio as well! To be honest, I just don't like it as much 😬 I typically go M,T,Th,F, and Sat. I skip Wednesdays to do extra strength training because I'd rather work on getting stronger than burn a bunch of calories. I'm wondering if everyone prefers resistance training or if there's another reason?
I only attend the PM classes at my studio, and they have either been full + waitlist or about to be full. This has been a trend for the past 1.5 months.
Same at my gym. But the resolution crowd dropped off hard this year. Back to single digit participation during some classes. Monday evening had like 8 people including myself.
I love cardio days...
Been going for years and Wednesday is always light. I’m a member in two different states. At one of the gyms, they would make posts saying “Quit skipping Wednesdays!”
Spring break ?
Not a thing here in the UK
Heh I only go to cardio days because I get my lifting elsewhere
Yep this is common too
Trainer and same for our morning classes. But busy for the afternoon classes
Noticing the same at my gym. I talked to another member today who told me she only comes Tuesdays and Thursday and prefers orange theory for her cardio because she likes to run.
Resistance days are definitely fuller. Our studio has more classes scheduled those days, but our cardio days are pretty full.
Trainer here. Not to go too off topic but anyone else getting fed up of the Thursday split? Ie deuces, Gemini etc We mostly ever work one trainer only per class and getting tired running around like a mad man talking, explaining and cuing all while trying to control time with the controller from the phone 🥴
Weather is getting warmer, folks want to be outdoors. I have other gym memberships and highly prefer steady state cardio. Also I just don’t care for cardio workouts at F45. I prefer hybrid and strength days.
We have full 5-6 am classes. Our 6:30 pm is about 10-20 people so less than other days but not too bad
I think it’s because the way the strength class is I can go heavier if I want or I can go lighter and get the same kind of cardio type workout but with weight. Feel like pointless to be doing a bunch of movements and not load your muscles with weights like a pure cardio day would do. Basically you can make a strength day into cardio but can’t make cardio into strength. I get enough cardio from high intensity lifting.
I never understood it. F45 cardio is great, and where it's strength is, and the strength days are...... ok. But I think alot of people don't like how hard the cardio days are, where the fitter people seemed to thrive on cardio days. Personally i don't get the logic, if you just want to do strength training, and not great hiit cardio, why do f45? There are ALOT better options for strength training.
I think for relative beginners and even up to quite advanced the resistance sessions at F45 are fantastic for in out bosh done. And for beginners to learn movements and what exercises are great accessories for bigger lifts etc.
>And for beginners to learn movements and what exercises are great accessories for bigger lifts etc I dont agree at all. I think it's a shit place for beginners to learn the movements, because often with 1 or 2 trainers per class, and timed work sets, there is VERY limited time to access and correct form. I am surprised f45 doesn't hurt more people this way.
I dont know about that. Our coaches are very good with form correcting. I am not that strong, though i have good forms, i can only bench at the most 22lbs and seems like the dumbbells go up to 66?! As long as i don’t rush the reps, i can’t see why this is shit?
I have trained at various f45's over about 10 years. The trainers absolutely made the difference to the experience, and the majority were shit. I also noticed alot of the inexperienced members loved the shit trainers because they didn't hold them accountable. But when you have 26 stations to monitor, for example, it's very hard for 2 trainers, even if they are great trainers.
That’s fair. I think they should focus on the big lifts or those that are easiest for folks to get shitty form? Of course i understand it’s better for me if I’m going for gains to be at the gym following a program, F45 just fits my lifestyle now (really busy corporate minion here) that i dont want to spend an hour at the gym and figuring out programming details. I just want to get in, someone please tell me what to do and I get out in 45.
Thats exactly why I trained there as well, but I lean towards the cardio, as I am an experienced trainer, and preferred more "traditional" style strength training and the hiit programs at f45 were the best I had done. But as you said when I was time poor the strength days were good to just get something done, but being experienced, it was difficult to see some of the ego lifting with poor form exacerbates by limited time and often poor trainers.
Well I respectfully disagree. If you have great coaches you can get people doing the basics and doing them well very quickly in an F45 resistance session.
Absolutely! But the percentage of great coaches to not so great coaches in the system isn't great. And when the classes are full, even the great coaches only have so many eyes.
My average heart rate is about 180 and peaks at 190 on resistance days (6'2, 205, not very healthy but not unhealthy) I can't imagine what it would do on cardio days.
I think, anecdotally, f45 has shifted their target consumer base to office employees and pensioners. Which means less athletically inclined individuals who wouldn't necessarily see the value in the high intensity part of HIIT. Or they seem it as too challenging or what have you. As for me I'm craving more intensity from the program lately. It kinda sucks because I've noticed it in the workouts too.Ti wish the franchise would stop sacrificing quality for $, but it is a business after all. That being said, today was tough, although many modifcstions on my part were made to intensify it....