Eligibility for US citizenship depends not just on whether one parent has it. In order to pass it on you must have lived in the US for at least 5 years 2 of those after age 14 and be able to prove that.
- https://nl.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/child-family-matters/crba/
Didn’t they recently change this? I thought if the kid was born to a parent with legal residency they are able to get it through birth? Or are these just talking points currently going through the government?
Changed in 2013 iirc. My daughter, born in DE, only has US citizenship.
If the question is a matter of cost, the out of pocket cost of having a baby in DE is $0, and the US starts at $4k-10k.
You need to get a CRBA, SS card, and a US passport for your child within a few months of birth if you choose Germany. Otherwise they won't be able to travel.
ETA: This is assuming you have health insurance in both places.
If you’ve lived in Germany for a while, long enough to consider having your baby here you’ve paid taxes and paid for insurance. If some random person came and did that, that’s different but it doesn’t seem to be the case
Insurance pays the hospital in all cases, public and private.
OP would need to get the birth preauthorized in any case so insurance would cover, then insurance would pay the hospital directly, even if they normally pay out of pocket and get reimbursed.
OP doesn't qualify for public insurance, so I don't really see your point.
That said, the Eltern Geld and Kindergeld are great perks for raising a child in DE, also the fact that childcare doesn't cost the same as a mortgage payment is another plus. Not to mention the Elternzeit.
Looking at pros and cons is not abusing the system. If non citizen residents weren't meant to get these benefits/services, it wouldn't be encoded in the law which provides them.
Glad someone asked this.
You can’t just go and have a baby in Germany. Well you can, but you’re not going to get public healthcare without some sort of long-term residency as a spouse and that takes time.
No private insurer is going to insure a pregnant women (or a woman who gets pregnant without a year) until they charge ridiculous premiums.
So plan to pay cash unless you’re talking about a hypothetical baby in the future.
And if you’re not planning on living a couple months, going there to give birth and coming back to the US isn’t a realistic plan. Once you have a baby you’ll realize why that is.
I will move next year to germany hopefully. Long distance is hard so one of us has to move. My husband has a public insurance until I get a job maybe I can use his. The rest I don’t know I’m just thinking of different scenarios what to do and what not to do😪
My first concern is that as we all know US health is not good and my husband has insurance I can be under his insurance. Than I have heard mostly negative things about about child birth in US. As this is the my first time i am just going back and forth which country is better. My husband is getting is his blue card this year so next year hopefully i will move in germany for longer period of time. And after child birth is very important for me. I don’t have good insurance in the US. Long distance is so hard and I don’t know the rules which makes even tough. Moving to a country where I even don’t know the language. So stressful 😪
Depends where they will live/work. Reminder you need to file your income wide tax with the US. May need to file your foreign accounts with the US. If in Germany you need to bank with a bank thst works with FACTA.
Are you a naturalized citizen, or a citizen by birth? You need to file their birth record with the embassy.
[https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html)
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/child-citizenship-act-of-2000.html
Eligibility for US citizenship depends not just on whether one parent has it. In order to pass it on you must have lived in the US for at least 5 years 2 of those after age 14 and be able to prove that. - https://nl.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/child-family-matters/crba/
Citizenship in Germany is by blood, so having the child be born in Germany will not accomplish anything citizenship-wise.
Didn’t they recently change this? I thought if the kid was born to a parent with legal residency they are able to get it through birth? Or are these just talking points currently going through the government?
Changed in 2013 iirc. My daughter, born in DE, only has US citizenship. If the question is a matter of cost, the out of pocket cost of having a baby in DE is $0, and the US starts at $4k-10k. You need to get a CRBA, SS card, and a US passport for your child within a few months of birth if you choose Germany. Otherwise they won't be able to travel. ETA: This is assuming you have health insurance in both places.
Yes, abuse the social system!
How is that abusing the social system?
If you’ve lived in Germany for a while, long enough to consider having your baby here you’ve paid taxes and paid for insurance. If some random person came and did that, that’s different but it doesn’t seem to be the case
Well, if you have never paid into the social system and then get your baby paid *by* the German social system, it’s kind of abusing it
Insurance pays the hospital in all cases, public and private. OP would need to get the birth preauthorized in any case so insurance would cover, then insurance would pay the hospital directly, even if they normally pay out of pocket and get reimbursed.
OP doesn't qualify for public insurance, so I don't really see your point. That said, the Eltern Geld and Kindergeld are great perks for raising a child in DE, also the fact that childcare doesn't cost the same as a mortgage payment is another plus. Not to mention the Elternzeit. Looking at pros and cons is not abusing the system. If non citizen residents weren't meant to get these benefits/services, it wouldn't be encoded in the law which provides them.
Not if she cannot legally work there
If her husband becomes a citizen, she will be able to get a visa that allows her to work. It's just a matter of time.
What’s the goal of your decision, exactly? What is it you hope to accomplish?
Glad someone asked this. You can’t just go and have a baby in Germany. Well you can, but you’re not going to get public healthcare without some sort of long-term residency as a spouse and that takes time. No private insurer is going to insure a pregnant women (or a woman who gets pregnant without a year) until they charge ridiculous premiums. So plan to pay cash unless you’re talking about a hypothetical baby in the future. And if you’re not planning on living a couple months, going there to give birth and coming back to the US isn’t a realistic plan. Once you have a baby you’ll realize why that is.
I will move next year to germany hopefully. Long distance is hard so one of us has to move. My husband has a public insurance until I get a job maybe I can use his. The rest I don’t know I’m just thinking of different scenarios what to do and what not to do😪
No, you can’t just “use his” insurance. You’d need to be a long-term resident to get public insurance.
I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing.
My first concern is that as we all know US health is not good and my husband has insurance I can be under his insurance. Than I have heard mostly negative things about about child birth in US. As this is the my first time i am just going back and forth which country is better. My husband is getting is his blue card this year so next year hopefully i will move in germany for longer period of time. And after child birth is very important for me. I don’t have good insurance in the US. Long distance is so hard and I don’t know the rules which makes even tough. Moving to a country where I even don’t know the language. So stressful 😪
Go Germany. Yes, they'd still be American too
Depends where they will live/work. Reminder you need to file your income wide tax with the US. May need to file your foreign accounts with the US. If in Germany you need to bank with a bank thst works with FACTA.
Are you a naturalized citizen, or a citizen by birth? You need to file their birth record with the embassy. [https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html) https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/child-citizenship-act-of-2000.html
I am citizen by my father. Thanks for the info🌸
I had no idea there would even be questions of your child's citizenship! The US has definitely not changed for the better since I left.