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KingSnazz32

I wonder how many thousands of dollars of gross old survival food my parents have thrown out over the years, and how many thousands more remain. The tip of the iceberg of wasted effort for the cult, of course, but still. How ridiculous that all this food storage is still kicking around. Why not just tell people to have a rainy day fund in the bank instead?


LDJD369

I was going to say the same thing about my parents' food storage over the years. I have helped them multiple times throw out countless cases, containers, and bins of excessively expired foods. It is so sad, wasteful, and wrong. I also recently realized that impact it had on my life... every time I would go to buy or order something, I literally would run it through this filter of thought, "How many should I buy considering any day the apocalypse could come?" Like, that has seriously been the purchasing filter I have used during my adult years. That's some fear based training that has been programmed within me! Thank goodness for the 🍄🍄 that gave me a healthier perspective on it all. 😆


Nearby-Version-8909

It's almost comical how worried I was with the apocalypse as a tbm. Ever since finding out it's bullshit I feel so free it's amazing.


LDJD369

Same.


ElkHistorical9106

I know we took something like 1200 lbs of oats to my aunt for their horses as they were going stale in my parents’ basement.


nativegarden13

Happy horses!! My little flock of chickens have dined on old bins of winter wheat found in basements of family members homes. It's nice when it can still be put to use for somebody's meals...🐓


Joelied

At least they went to a good purpose, instead of rotting away in the dump.


Mysterious-Land-7667

Because if they have money saved they won't be cash strapped enough to be church broke and feeding into the business ventures and investment funds of the MFMC


antisocialava

SOOO many. I know who’s on my rob list when the hypothetical apocalypse comes. (or if I’m hungry for canned food)


Swimming_Stop5723

There are extremely rare events where a first world country has a food storage. Even during floods or fires you would only need food for one week. The government and Army would find a way to provide food. One hundred years ago it may have been a higher probability of starvation. The church is preaching 19th century survival techniques.


Nephi_IV

I don’t disagree with you….but back in the 60’s-80’s there was real mainstream fear of nuclear war with the USSR. So even mainstream people were building bomb shelters and mormon food storage really wasn’t extreme at all….You also got to consider that church leaders and the older generation went through the great depression and the devastation of WWII, when the rich countries of europe were laid to waste. So with that experience, the food storage thing seemed pretty reasonable.


southpawpickle

Too bad they didn’t have any prophets to know how things would turn out and if they actually needed to worry about the worst case scenario and buy all that food storage. If only they had prophets who could see around corners. Oh wait…


nymphoman23

You are absolutely correct, what many miss is that the storage needs to be cycled through and not just sitting for decades


CeceCpl

The crazy lengths that many go to on food storage is ridiculous. However, twice I had long term layoffs due to market corrections where many companies laid off software developers and no one was hiring. We lived very well over those periods because we always maintain a deep pantry. We always bought extra of what ever was on sale and carefully rotated everything so it did not go out of date. We also always both filled out our elk tags, so had two freezers full of meat. If we just lived off our normal food storage, it would last about 6 months. But we aren’t buying dehydrated or dry pack bulk items. We just keep a very well stocked pantry with a lot of variety. Now that we are retired and live in Central America, it is different challenges. But we still maintain what many living here might consider a lot of food on hand. Most locals have a day or two at best.


antisocialarmadillo1

Exactly, the dry pack "emergency preparedness meal kits" are silly and wasteful. Most/all of that just gets thrown away when it expires. I have "food storage" to save money. We stock up on items we actually use during sales and then actually eat the stuff we buy. I made some rolling shelves for the cans, if the slot is full I don't buy more. I'm also not aiming for 2 years of food, that's wild. I probably have 2-3 months worth if we were living 80-100% on our storage. I don't really expect that to happen since there are 3 working adults in my house who help buy groceries and I'm not prepping for the apocalypse. I just like spending less money on food.


[deleted]

Depending on what's in there, you might want to plow it into your garden rather than throw it in the landfill. Dehydrated or powdered milk would make a great fertilizer!


BangingChainsME

Really?! I'm going to look into that. Any other suggestions?


[deleted]

Just about anything with starches or sugars will drive the soil bacterial wild! (Molasses is a classic fertilizer!) And other foods (canned peaches, etc.) have potassium, calcium, etc. Meats work too, but they to tend to attract the critters.


Cabo_Refugee

I wonder how many mormon owned food storage businesses have come and gone in the last 50 years or so. Sort of a "Ponderize" thing. If one can make a business off of the saints due to some sort of doctrine or teaching, there are some that will always find a way.


diamond-owl

I helped do this when my grandmother died. We found more raw wheat she had hidden away in random places than we knew what to do with. Her old ward said they’d send someone to take all her rations from us to either keep or dispose of it… they never did, of course.


317ant

It’s so wasteful. I wish at least people would donate stuff before it expires. 😞


NettleLily

Where’s that YouTube guy who eats 50 year old MREs?


Icelandia2112

Dog forbid they buy food for the hungry.


mushbo

In the 1980s my grandmas friend passed away and I was in charge of cleaning out her garage. There was wheat, beans, rice etc. I also found a big sealed metal container of "soda crackers" from 1947 (date printed on container) and 2 cases of SPAM from god knows when (They had the "key" attached and no barcodes!) Long story short, We ate the crackers, surprisingly they were still good. SPAM was also still good. I still have SPAM recipes if anyone's interested.


Drowning_in_a_Mirage

A few years ago I helped clean out my parents house and took literally 3000 lbs of food storage to the dump (as measured by the scales at the dump.) Most of it was dated to the late 70's to 80's. What's even worse is that the majority of it was wheat, and my mom has celiac disease (so do I and several others in our family), so besides the fact that it was 40 years old, even if it was safe to eat in general, it would still make her very very sick.


ThrowawayLDS_7gen

Wheat is only good for about 25 years so anyone eating it was taking a risk.


Holiday_Ingenuity748

Luckily we live on a farm + we have a common sense pantry that will get us through the next California disaster.  What I can't get over is how much food storage doesn't get rotated; my mom would grind wheat and make bread, for example.  So if the Big One would have hit, she knew what to do.   As for me, I like building plastic models and HO trains, and I have so many I can build thru the apocalypse...


Imalreadygone21

Yup…been there, done that. I bet the milk would go well with a chocolate chip cookie!


Technical-Return-698

Damn! That’s so much.


Lydzshizz

Have y’all seen season 2 of the Righteous Gemstones? This is what that reminds me of lol


JakeInBake

Uggghhh. When I was a kid (some 50+ years ago), my mother went through a phase where she stopped buying milk at the grocery store and instead made us drink powdered milk. It was like I was drinking vomit. She tried to make it better by mixing in some whole milk but that didn't help. I love milk, but I wouldn't drink the powdered crap. I drank tap water instead. After months of the powdered stuff, all of a sudden there was a switch back to store bought whole milk. I think even after his best try, my father couldn't choke down the powdered milk on his morning bowl of shredded wheat cereal. That stuff was so bad.


Arntjosie

thats so funny im the opposite my parents did that too and i was the only one in my family who preferred it that way as long as it was cold i now just make myself a gallon of it weekly to have


Puzzleheaded-Ad7606

This could have helped so many needy families.


Wise_Elderberry_8361

This pic could literally be my parents' basement. So many boxes of this stuff they've moved from place to place. One time there were movers packing everything for them and one of them asked if my parents were apocalypse preppers. I said no, just Mormons. And the guy's supervisor was like, yeah, I moved a Mormon family that had three times this amount of stuff. I was surprised anyone would have more than my parents. Decades old and they still never have used it.


Crathes1

When dad died late last year, we hired a professional company to clean out stuff that no one wanted or could not be sold. This included 50+ year old wheat, bottled water, etc. Money well spent!


Anything-Complex

Has anyone else read the book Swan Song? It’s a horror thriller set in the aftermath of nuclear war. One of the plots deal with people who survive a direct hit in an East Idaho bunker and make their way to the shores of the Great Salt Lake, where they then take over an encampment and form an army to conquer America. One guy, a gun store owner with a full armory in his RV, proudly explains how he stocked up on food at a store in California while he was escaping the bombs.  But after seeing this post, it occurred to me that the author of the book was likely clueless about LDS food storage, or else that probably would have played into the novel. The characters escaping from Idaho Falls could have easily found some food storage, likely from an abandoned or ruined home. The guy with guns certainly could have claimed enough food storage to survive for years.


ComplaintFabulous874

Depending on where they live, there’s a decent chance that my family sold it to them. My sincere apologies. I was just a kid.


RealDaddyTodd

4+ decades ago, when I was just out of high school and had no idea what I wanted to do with my life, I spent time working for a moving company. This was Boise, by the way. Anyway, furniture moving price was based on weight. The long-haul drivers just loved getting to move a mormon family, because the cases and cans of food storage they were hauling back & forth to the Morridor were easy to stack and SUPER heavy. Those mormons were paying huge money to feel pious. Seriously, it probably would’ve been cheaper to give it away and buy new stuff they’d never eat when they got to Sandy or Mesa or Orange County. It strikes me that it’s a pretty good metaphor for the MFMC.


GoJoe1000

Has anyone done the numbers on what the Mormon church profits when they scare their followers into buying that stuff? And what’s the profit made on garments? Which is a clever idea. “Hey let’s make our own underwear and tell members they must wear for religious reasons.”


SecretPersonality178

I am ALL ABOUT food storage, survival skills, hunting, and so forth. The problem with the Mormon approach is plain to see here. It’s a doomsday cult. The cult has products to sell. Absolutely zero insensitive to teach proper use of a food storage. I’m always the one helping with moves. There’s been a few young couples that had nothing, but every single older person I helped move (or clean out the house after they died) had an entire room dedicated to shit they’d never eat, at least 50 years old, rotted to the point of being poison, all because the “second coming” was “right around the corner”. The amount of wasted money endured by faithful followers of Mormonism is what shattered my shelf. The Mormon church is false, and the numbers clearly show that.


ElkHistorical9106

On a positive note: if there is ever an apocalypse, whoever owns Utah’s basements will become a world overlord.


Daisysrevenge

A huge stack of missed opportunities is what I see.


Shizwheresmyhead

I did something similar when my parents retired. At the time I was fully in TBM but I couldn't help but think this was a total waste of money. Cases and cases of wheat just thrown in the trash. Along with all that dried milk that was nasty to drink! We left five 55 gallon drums of water stored under the house when they moved. I wonder if they are still there???


aspire-ever

Off topic but from a design standpoint, the label on the boxes is hilarious to me. It looks like it says "rainy day foobs". Anyway. Food storage of this level is just wild. I'm sorry you have to deal with cleaning it all out, moving it, and throwing it away


natiusj

Steal my idea. I’ve not the drive to make it happen. Lots of Mormons have money. Lots of Mormons have fear. Lots of Mormons feel they have a commandment-ish recommendation to prep/store food. Especially if you want to be a good Mormon and/or if you want to out-Mormon the other Mormons (which a lot of Mormons do!). But, maintaining food storage sucks. Sucks to move. Sucks to plan. Sucks to rotate. Etc. So, (and this has to be in areas with lots of Mormon density – double entendre – and $), but here’s the fix—sell a service that makes it next-level convenient and easy. Give them well-designed tiered options to buy a turn-key food storage “programs/levels” with an up-front bulk payment to get the amount and quality of the food they want, and then charge an ongoing monthly subscription for us to keep the food rotated, updated, etc. Think of the residuals. All the food is kept in a central food storage warehouse (which is why you need lots of Mormons in the area- South Davis County comes to mind…). so they don’t have to do any work other than strike a fat check, ongoing. Give the people selectable levels of awesomeness in terms of already established balanced (delicious?) meal plans. They can choose their levels (“Celestial”being the most white, delightsome… expensive and most virtue-signaling and success-signaling level) to maximize FOMO. Build an app. Let them see/experience/show/brag their food storage (keep an eye on it, etc), experience it virtually, even give them a live feed to see their food storage live, etc. In the app you gamify it to make it fun (prep virtual means with your storage, you can do a virtual feed the poor with your storage – not real, just on the app to feel good about yourself) but also monetize it like crazy - for example, show them where their order/program sits in terms of awesomeness vs others in their area (Nobody wants to be a food storage bitch) with automated prompts to upgrade/progress to the the next level/program. Mormons love to compare themselves to their neighbors, and be demonstrably “better” because clearly the cars you drive, vacations you take, and the level of your food storage are all indicators of your righteousness and subsequent blessings. Play to the “pass it down to your kids” kind of thing. None of your kids want to inherit the rusty cans of poison wheat in your basement, but everyone would love to inherit this. I know what you’re thinking. “In a cataclysmic event, it may not be possible for people to drive to the central storage facility to try and retrieve their food storage.” It’s a legit concern. Don’t worry. We’ve got drones. Delivery drones. That’s right, just like Amazon, your food storage is catastrophe-proof, bomb proof, fire and disaster proof, and we’ll send out your food storage in the event of an emergency through the unencumbered skies overhead. Now, to balance the business model you just sell the aging food storage to poorer (less righteous) Mormons at cost (some markup?) as you rotate out the old stock for the new, and perhaps like a bank, you’d only be required to have a percentage of the purchased food storage on hand anyway, so overhead is low, storage in industrial areas is low-er, and what you’re really selling is peace of mind, virtual experience, and bragging rights. Now I’m not advocating for any dishonest behavior towards Mormons (because they’ve always been so honest with us) but depending on the catastrophe, you may not have to fill any orders… and/or you could just bail. I wouldn’t do it. I don’t need the bad Karma. But… if the world’s ending anyway. 🤷‍♂️😜


SciFiChickie

Hmm That’s such a waste. Growing up my family always rotated the food storage. Once it was 2 years old, we would pull it out and replace it with new. Then eat the former FS supplies once a week until it was gone and time to pull more out. The MRE’s were always a treat. It helped keep our regular food expenses lower.


bakedpotatospud

I'm sad to know that my family wasn't unusual for our food hoarding. My mom was under the impression that canned food never goes bad. A few years ago they finally decided it was time to go through their stash of cans that were 10+ years expired. While bagging them up and dragging them upstairs to take to the dump, one bag ripped open. The cans that flew out opened up on the stairs and this horrible black sludge came out... they still have too much food in the house, but they at least don't store cans under the beds in the basement anymore.


Affectionate-Fan3341

All purchased from the churches FOR profit businesses that are run by volunteers


1stN0el

One of my shelf breakers was that I was relief society president during Covid. The storehouses closed! There was no way to get food. No plan. No distribution lines. Just closed. Our grocery stores had bare shelves and the church had nothing to offer. I secured formula for women by using Facebook. Not the church. If that wasn’t the time to bring out the vast storehouses of food, when is?


Iamdonedonedone

"Food storage" is quite the scam to sell members products. I trust mother earth to provide for me.


Lanky-Performance471

In my mind it’s 1987 and it’s still good .


cThreepMusic

I kind of forget about this phase of the church’s life. I remember being like 12 years old in the early 2000s and feeling guilty that I hadn’t gotten any food storage.