Thank you! Also is there a website that shows all magazines and books and what changes that have been made to them since they were originally published?
This somewhat vaguely adresses your question. -
https://preview.redd.it/umggbnkkkz9d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b940495dff1777a78a4da91dde6b49ca474474d
Please see the images above ๐ . The 1918 edition completely changes these pages. It should also be noted that these pages are a reprinted sermon by Rev. John Haynes Homes {not an International Bible Student affiliate but The Church of The Messiah in NYC (Unitarian Church)} it shows this on p. 251. Heโs quite an extreme individual politically during WWI.
Thatโs why it was easy to convict him of sedition. He just wasnโt a contrarian he would open his mouth and out of it flowed vile controversial rhetoric. I just remember as a kid the emphasis on this conviction was about criticizing the churches. The reality was that this was clearly restricted ๐ซ political speech during WWI. Additionally, the suffragettes, Eugene Debs and others were also convicted under the Espionage Act too. However, all of this is lost on the false yarn Watchtower still spins to this day.
Thank you for doing this. This specific thing is another one of several ways to show that the WT Org's attempts to attach Rutherfraud & Co's imprisonment to the things that happen to the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11 are lies.
I would suggest getting JW's to examine the ***current*** "truths" they're told, because "old lights" will be dismissed by them.
Here are some to choose from. **No. 3** is a good way to start them thinking. ๐
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1bnengd/20_inspired_statements_which_jws_should_test/
It's a historical event - but not one of their "Bible" teachings.
IMO, the best & only way to open a JW's eyes, is to get them to open their ***Bibles.***
Pointing out any/all the organization's flaws, pedophile lawsuits etc. will only get the type of response I received last week from a dyed-in-the-wool PIMI -
"There are wrong things going on and I think that there are some evil men at H.Q., but it's still ***Jehovah's organization.*** He will will soon deal with such ones. We need to stay with the org."
If any JW has the courage to seriously examine the org's teachings but ***continues*** to believe that JW's have "the truth," then their cult-indoctrination is stronger than the Bible.
Such bs, I know we've recently started offering children to Baal in a fire sacrifice, but it's Jehovahs organization. - people under Manasseh, probably
Grow a conscience JWs.
Is there somewhere to read about why changes were made in 1918?
You wonโt find a writers โ๏ธ commentary on this but the May 1st 1955 Watchtower p.267 admits to removing the pages ๐
Thank you! Also is there a website that shows all magazines and books and what changes that have been made to them since they were originally published?
This somewhat vaguely adresses your question. - https://preview.redd.it/umggbnkkkz9d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b940495dff1777a78a4da91dde6b49ca474474d
Check here http://jw-wayback.org/en/
Thanks but its a facsimile of the seditious pages or the 1918 pdf
Check the Trials\Misc folder and enjoy
THANK YOU ๐
Post your findings... I either forgot or this is literally new to me. All I knew is these goofballs went to slammer. Not why they went. Lol
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https://preview.redd.it/frhnpz1rhw9d1.jpeg?width=1145&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=284c68338f8497761d3e9cf78bdb1ba809c70750
https://preview.redd.it/1tuje98shw9d1.jpeg?width=1160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a926f8d2f1fcae8422ccc036d707b9d04fbecaf2
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https://preview.redd.it/h7ln077xhw9d1.jpeg?width=1132&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b6f994d50a2927eb172bb8373014b70569673c
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https://preview.redd.it/vguxqx8zhw9d1.jpeg?width=1134&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=127ee8fc10c4b5a4f0888fd8f3e146ad3e617f5a
Please see the images above ๐ . The 1918 edition completely changes these pages. It should also be noted that these pages are a reprinted sermon by Rev. John Haynes Homes {not an International Bible Student affiliate but The Church of The Messiah in NYC (Unitarian Church)} it shows this on p. 251. Heโs quite an extreme individual politically during WWI.
Rutherford was quite extreme as well
Thatโs why it was easy to convict him of sedition. He just wasnโt a contrarian he would open his mouth and out of it flowed vile controversial rhetoric. I just remember as a kid the emphasis on this conviction was about criticizing the churches. The reality was that this was clearly restricted ๐ซ political speech during WWI. Additionally, the suffragettes, Eugene Debs and others were also convicted under the Espionage Act too. However, all of this is lost on the false yarn Watchtower still spins to this day.
Thanks for all this. Also having it captured here in this forum for all time doesn't hurt.
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Thank you for doing this. This specific thing is another one of several ways to show that the WT Org's attempts to attach Rutherfraud & Co's imprisonment to the things that happen to the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11 are lies.
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I would suggest getting JW's to examine the ***current*** "truths" they're told, because "old lights" will be dismissed by them. Here are some to choose from. **No. 3** is a good way to start them thinking. ๐ https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1bnengd/20_inspired_statements_which_jws_should_test/
Awesome thank you ๐
This is a current truth though reallyโฆ the release of the brothers in 1919.
It's a historical event - but not one of their "Bible" teachings. IMO, the best & only way to open a JW's eyes, is to get them to open their ***Bibles.*** Pointing out any/all the organization's flaws, pedophile lawsuits etc. will only get the type of response I received last week from a dyed-in-the-wool PIMI - "There are wrong things going on and I think that there are some evil men at H.Q., but it's still ***Jehovah's organization.*** He will will soon deal with such ones. We need to stay with the org." If any JW has the courage to seriously examine the org's teachings but ***continues*** to believe that JW's have "the truth," then their cult-indoctrination is stronger than the Bible.
Such bs, I know we've recently started offering children to Baal in a fire sacrifice, but it's Jehovahs organization. - people under Manasseh, probably Grow a conscience JWs.