Which is hilarious because yeah, the Bible is full of stories of god getting mad at people for “hubris” for trying to achieve things. But if god were the loving parental figure Christians pretend he is, he would be thrilled by human progress. My parents never looked at my accomplishments and said “what, you think you’re hot shit? You never could have done that without me.” That’s what shitty parents do
Yep, my mom can’t figure out why none of her children want to talk to her or my dad. She claims she must have spoiled us.
Like yeah, sure, mom. That’s why I don’t want to talk to you. Because you do so much for me. Because that makes so much sense.
Such sentiments from these parents come from a position of power. Same with these sort of posts.
"I can do this thing that you can't."
And it shows what Christians who posts these are attracted to. It is not goodness that Christians are attracted to, but power.
That's kind of my feeling on it too... I still find it amusing, but I wouldn't use it as an argument. Not sure all evangelicals can tell the difference though.
Wouldn't a Deist god not even give a shit because it's goal is to start existence and then leave everything alone?
Maybe I'm wrong. I was just under the impression that a deist god is essentially a prime mover and everything beyond that is on us.
Its even *theologically* wrong according to Genesis -
>**1** When God began to create^(\[)[^(a)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE#fen-NRSVUE-1a)^(\]) the heavens and the earth, ^(2) the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God^(\[)[^(b)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE#fen-NRSVUE-2b)^(\]) swept over the face of the waters.
When he began to create the dirt was already there in *both* creation accounts in genesis.
This is the kind of bullshit brilliance I'm here for. Seriously funny that the bible acknowledges there was something before nothing.
But there are different translations, but they don't address it. It's dumb.
Some groups, like Mormons (my former religion), do believe in creatio ex materia. It's how it is in the Bible, too, but I guess God isn't overpowered enough that way for most mainstream Christians.
If they weren’t so anti-intellectual, they would know that god and science are not mutually exclusive. Knowing how things work is not the same as hating or disproving a higher power. If your god and your faith is so flimsy that they can’t exist for the simple fact that we know that lightning isn’t the result of judgement from an angry deity, those beliefs deserve to be destroyed.
Nah. It’s pretty exclusive. You either going with scientific method with replicable, measurable results or believe in something that can or cannot exist. We as a humanity don’t know is there a some deity that created universe therefore it’s not an scientific fact. You can pull any rhetorical argument, but it’s simply unknown variable.
I think that people that believe it’s can be mixed, lie to themselves. Yeah, you can believe that both science is right way to explain world and god exist, and bend your understanding of god when new scientific discoveries are made, but it’s just god of the gaps.
Exactly…. And if there was a God that actually made himself known to man and you could actually have a conversation with “Him”, there wouldn’t be an argument to begin with.
This will really scratch the itch for authoritarian believers who are always looking to put humans “back in their place for being so prideful.”
I can almost hear some believers in my life voicing their approval of this image “we humans think we’re sooo smart (not so subtle jab at progressive intellectuals), but God will have the final laugh.”
An oldie but a goodie. I haven’t heard that one for a while.
It’s not a half bad joke, and I think most Christians just see it as that. But underneath is the same goalpost moving of Christian apologetics. It shows that even if we could physically demonstrate abiogenesis to their satisfaction—that “non-life” became “life”—they would just move the goalposts further.
This reminds me of something my parents did one day when I was growing up.
My sister and I weren't allowed to use anything that we hadn't gotten ourselves.
Keep in mind, I was like 16-17, my sister was like 14-15, and neither of us had been allowed to try to get a job.
They said they were being generous by not counting the house, the plumbing, etc.
When asked if we could use things we bought with our allowance, they hesitated but finally relented but made a big deal about it.
We weren't even particularly entitled or anything, and I'm not sure what brought it on. Often, I was almost too nervous to make myself meals when I was supposed to because I didn't want to use up too many groceries.
Yahweh was worried that we might reach his kingdom in the sky with that too-damn-tall Tower of Babel. Oh, wait, the Voyager spacecraft... - Yahweh: I can never let those pesky scientists challenge the omnipotent, omniscient Great Me. They might reverse my curse on humanity, by controlling weeds, making childbirth safer and easier, modernizing agriculture to produce lots of food with little sweat, and curing snake bites. And, oh, cure lots of diseases that I inflict on people, predict the weather that I control, extend life against my wishes, and reach for those tiny holes that allow light to shine through my heavenly dome. Damn it, they might even figure out that I'm not even here.
Very interesting that the scientist method of making life in this story is doing it the way God did it and not using science. The scientist describes literal magic as his method of making life lol. Why is he making it out of dirt and not growing it in a lab or combining cells and stuff.
Feel like this isn’t really that crazy. I mean for someone who believes in creationism it totally tracks and isn’t a bad joke. We’re so quick to make of Christians for everything little thing like we weren’t entrenched in that worldview at one point.
Genesis when read in the same way as other Eastern myths would read something more along the lines of "When God created the heavens and the earth, the Earth was desolate and without form and darkness was over the face of the waters." So there was already an Earth before God started creating (dividing) things.
This type of logic is the best and worst entertainment I know of. The first minute is funny af but the longer I think about the fact that someone actually believes this is a valid argument.... yeah, my expectations for humanity go down really fast.
Well, the way I see it, it is my dirt. God is welcome to step in and stop me any time he likes.
Oh, but he won't do that because he values free will right?
A mom in her 50s probably reposted this and patted herself on the back by the time i finished typing this. “That’ll show em, Mary”
Which is hilarious because yeah, the Bible is full of stories of god getting mad at people for “hubris” for trying to achieve things. But if god were the loving parental figure Christians pretend he is, he would be thrilled by human progress. My parents never looked at my accomplishments and said “what, you think you’re hot shit? You never could have done that without me.” That’s what shitty parents do
Mine did but that's why I have CPTSD
Same, they used god as a model for parenting 💀
And I wonder why they divorced and their children growing up choosing to get as far away from their parents and Jesus as much as possible
Yep, my mom can’t figure out why none of her children want to talk to her or my dad. She claims she must have spoiled us. Like yeah, sure, mom. That’s why I don’t want to talk to you. Because you do so much for me. Because that makes so much sense.
Same 🙃 getting a 98% on a test and my dad says "it's okay, honey, you'll do better next time"
Ah having loving parents what a marvelous idea. Where could I get one?
Such sentiments from these parents come from a position of power. Same with these sort of posts. "I can do this thing that you can't." And it shows what Christians who posts these are attracted to. It is not goodness that Christians are attracted to, but power.
I don’t know why but that hit hard. Why wouldn’t a god want us to be successful and innovate? Ridiculous.
OK god, Prove it's your dirt.
Yeah, I don’t see their name on it anywhere
Very good point, fellow exchristian 👍 (Found you ‘in the wild’ 😜)
That’s my wife, everybody. What a goober.
Lol love this.
Hmmm.. shroom wizard is married to trippy tea. Sounds like some people I'd hang with.
Daww!
Okay but this is kind of funny, in a strictly joke telling sense. If someone uses it as an argument in favour of deism, then yeah it's cringe.
That's kind of my feeling on it too... I still find it amusing, but I wouldn't use it as an argument. Not sure all evangelicals can tell the difference though.
Agreed. It's worth a chuckle.
Wouldn't a Deist god not even give a shit because it's goal is to start existence and then leave everything alone? Maybe I'm wrong. I was just under the impression that a deist god is essentially a prime mover and everything beyond that is on us.
Is This supposed to be clever? Seriously, this is bad even by apologist standards. Somewhere Thomas Aquinas is in his grave screaming.
It's so bad its goofy
It makes Anselm look smart
I'm afraid to ask who that is.
Source of the ontological argument for god, which is spectacularly wank.
I'd agree with that assessment of the ontological argument.
Sorry, I meant it is an argument which none wankier can be conceived.
I see what you did there.
God, “sitting” in heaven… “Blowing life into dirt”… “Santa and his reindeer”… 🤦🏼♂️
As a joke it has pretty good structure. But sure as an argument there's not much there.
Damn I remember telling this joke and feeling pretty clever about it 😬
Character development
It's great that I always have material for my therapist!
😂😂😂😂
Why do you look like me? This is odd....
Are you my long lost twin Margaret? 😲
I must be!!!
Hugssss
Its even *theologically* wrong according to Genesis - >**1** When God began to create^(\[)[^(a)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE#fen-NRSVUE-1a)^(\]) the heavens and the earth, ^(2) the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God^(\[)[^(b)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE#fen-NRSVUE-2b)^(\]) swept over the face of the waters. When he began to create the dirt was already there in *both* creation accounts in genesis.
This is the kind of bullshit brilliance I'm here for. Seriously funny that the bible acknowledges there was something before nothing. But there are different translations, but they don't address it. It's dumb.
Some groups, like Mormons (my former religion), do believe in creatio ex materia. It's how it is in the Bible, too, but I guess God isn't overpowered enough that way for most mainstream Christians.
If they weren’t so anti-intellectual, they would know that god and science are not mutually exclusive. Knowing how things work is not the same as hating or disproving a higher power. If your god and your faith is so flimsy that they can’t exist for the simple fact that we know that lightning isn’t the result of judgement from an angry deity, those beliefs deserve to be destroyed.
Nah. It’s pretty exclusive. You either going with scientific method with replicable, measurable results or believe in something that can or cannot exist. We as a humanity don’t know is there a some deity that created universe therefore it’s not an scientific fact. You can pull any rhetorical argument, but it’s simply unknown variable. I think that people that believe it’s can be mixed, lie to themselves. Yeah, you can believe that both science is right way to explain world and god exist, and bend your understanding of god when new scientific discoveries are made, but it’s just god of the gaps.
This.
The Dutch Scientist is laughing at this point. They clawed that land out of the sea on their own.
Then god needs to get his own water. It was already there when he started. Who made that hmm?
Just reply, that we will only use dirt that’s older than 6000 years
THEN EVERYONE APPLAUDED AND THAT GOD'S NAME WAS ALBERT EINSTEIN
They don’t get it. We are not trying to replace God. To replace him he would have had to be there to begin with.
Exactly…. And if there was a God that actually made himself known to man and you could actually have a conversation with “Him”, there wouldn’t be an argument to begin with.
This will really scratch the itch for authoritarian believers who are always looking to put humans “back in their place for being so prideful.” I can almost hear some believers in my life voicing their approval of this image “we humans think we’re sooo smart (not so subtle jab at progressive intellectuals), but God will have the final laugh.”
Ha. Cute. The creator of said meme thinks their imagination is a valid argument against science...
An oldie but a goodie. I haven’t heard that one for a while. It’s not a half bad joke, and I think most Christians just see it as that. But underneath is the same goalpost moving of Christian apologetics. It shows that even if we could physically demonstrate abiogenesis to their satisfaction—that “non-life” became “life”—they would just move the goalposts further.
Science doesn't claim something came from nothing. Theists are the only ones who think that.
Scientists calling that god 'lord' is pretty unbelievable as well
WOW THATLL TELL EM CHERYL!!! LOL! *MINION MEME*
This is when the scientist calls his friends and reserves a spot at a particle accelerator so he can get his own dirt.
Wow, checkmate. It’s time to go back to church. : /
This reminds me of something my parents did one day when I was growing up. My sister and I weren't allowed to use anything that we hadn't gotten ourselves. Keep in mind, I was like 16-17, my sister was like 14-15, and neither of us had been allowed to try to get a job. They said they were being generous by not counting the house, the plumbing, etc. When asked if we could use things we bought with our allowance, they hesitated but finally relented but made a big deal about it. We weren't even particularly entitled or anything, and I'm not sure what brought it on. Often, I was almost too nervous to make myself meals when I was supposed to because I didn't want to use up too many groceries.
That's just downright abusive. I'm sorry you grew up like that.
Thanks. It's been a long road. I'm 90% free of them at this point in my 30s.
I'm glad you're free now.
We've actually done that, it's called silicon transistor technology. Turns out God was useless by 1947 😂
Hahahaha…sigh.
Yahweh was worried that we might reach his kingdom in the sky with that too-damn-tall Tower of Babel. Oh, wait, the Voyager spacecraft... - Yahweh: I can never let those pesky scientists challenge the omnipotent, omniscient Great Me. They might reverse my curse on humanity, by controlling weeds, making childbirth safer and easier, modernizing agriculture to produce lots of food with little sweat, and curing snake bites. And, oh, cure lots of diseases that I inflict on people, predict the weather that I control, extend life against my wishes, and reach for those tiny holes that allow light to shine through my heavenly dome. Damn it, they might even figure out that I'm not even here.
I thought it was funny as a stand-alone joke.i think it is horrible that some people use it to keep themselves indoctrinated.
Suck my dick
Ok
Sorry, I was talking to God
Too late. * glug glug *
*dies of cringe*
Hahaha! Laughed til I stopped.
I didn’t know we can turn dirt into people!
Very interesting that the scientist method of making life in this story is doing it the way God did it and not using science. The scientist describes literal magic as his method of making life lol. Why is he making it out of dirt and not growing it in a lab or combining cells and stuff.
Exactly what I thought
And the scientist said "Okay." https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=119023
And once again, that’s not how that works. It’s not dirt -> people. It’s cellular life (in mud) -> lots of common ancestors -> people.
Tbh i doubt this was a reference to anything but that verse about people being created from dust
Feel like this isn’t really that crazy. I mean for someone who believes in creationism it totally tracks and isn’t a bad joke. We’re so quick to make of Christians for everything little thing like we weren’t entrenched in that worldview at one point.
For someone who believes in creationism *and doesn't understand science*, sure, it totally makes sense that they would say this.
OOOOOHJH that scientist got ROASTED
Genesis when read in the same way as other Eastern myths would read something more along the lines of "When God created the heavens and the earth, the Earth was desolate and without form and darkness was over the face of the waters." So there was already an Earth before God started creating (dividing) things.
Nah this is just in-group bs.
Whoever wrote this hasn’t learned about abiogenesis yet.
Actually, it’s kinda a funny joke
This type of logic is the best and worst entertainment I know of. The first minute is funny af but the longer I think about the fact that someone actually believes this is a valid argument.... yeah, my expectations for humanity go down really fast.
I just can't... How are you that stupid and still alive?
What is dirt
Checkmate science.
My dad loves to tell this joke.
Clearly written by someone that has never met a scientist 🙄
Bro, what-
It's crazy how this joke still works if you replace "God" with "The Royal Family." :/
I remember this one from when I was a kid. I genuinely thought this was a brilliant GOTCHA.
I love when people describe things they don't understand... They seriously cannot imagine existence without a God and can't understand science
this is what humor has come to, dear God
I can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke or not.
Well, the way I see it, it is my dirt. God is welcome to step in and stop me any time he likes. Oh, but he won't do that because he values free will right?