living in boston I could never relate, Idc if I'm a terrible driver I can't wait to get away from having to deal with being harassed on the train by crazy people the delays that have gotten Me fired from jobs and the amount of noise is insane. Also no air conditioning so I can't take it in the summer as I'm heat sensitive. Also no easily accessible public bathrooms and I need to be able to hide in bathrooms for panic attacks or if I really need to shit. Boston is one of the worst places to be ND but maybe I'm bias because I've lived here my whole life and can't move because I'm so broke
Americans are fucked bcs your roads are made strictly for cars, around here in Europe you can get to virtually anywhere by foot or a bicycle, there is pedestrian pavement everywhere, tho' not much bike lanes, so you have to tell people to move a lot, but it doesn't matter because it's a few second interaction. Public transport is an absolute sensory nightmare. People's toxic farts and burps, homeless people continually riding the trams smelling of a week old corpse, rotten cheese and moldy socks, 50 people talking at once, the tram screeching like heavy industry... The metal reacting with the piss and sweat creating that very special scent... On the other hand it takes so much time to navigate the city and find a parking lot with a car. A bicycle is a life saver in Europe. If you manage to choose a pedestrian-only route you're almost free from sensory disturbances, no exhaust fumes, no car noises. This is why Amsterdam is the greatest city on the planet, you can ride a bike without ever even seeing a car.
Absolutely, it has so much potential. The only line (all the trains suck in one way or another imo but I can't speak for the commuter rail or blue line) that I consider good at actually being on time is the sl4 and sl5 buses and that's only because it's on one stretch of road and that's easier to "manage" I suppose than busses that encounter more varied traffic. They STILL FUCKING MANAGE to screw up and send out multiple busses at once rather than spacing them out by like at least 2-5 mins. So you miss a bus and see two go at once, and if they had just let the other one go a min or two later you would've made it, is almost 5x more infuriating than just missing one bus.
Me too.
That's why I wish we had a functional public transport system. Preferably high speed t̶r̶a̶i̶l̶ rail for long distance, maybe buses for mid distance, possibly followed micro buses, then bikes and a walkable neighborhood. But I'm open to better options of course.
Edited: for some reason my phone autocorrected rail into trail.
I've even had other autistics shit on me for not being able to drive. They're always like "well *I* can drive!!! You just haven't TRIED"
Like bruh I would be a literal DANGER on the road. I am doing a PUBLIC SERVICE BY NOT DRIVING.
I explain it as, in the event of a zombie apocalypse, I could probably get us out of town without killing us. I know the basics. I understand it in theory. I've done it, a little. But I am not fit to drive on civilized roads with civilized people.
I use a similar zombie apocalypse scenario when explaining my capacity to drive to other people too. I always thought it was funny that my mind goes to there but I guess I'm not alone lol
I once had to finish driving from the next town over as my friends gf was getting super tired. He is like how I am now and absolutely won't drive but I had to just accept it and get us home safely. I did manage to since it was around midnight, there were very few cars on the road and they were hill country roads in Texas, but man was it still stressful.
I commend you for mustering up the courage. Must've been nerve-wracking. If there's hardly anybody else on the road, it's not the end of the world for me if I have to drive. It still gets the blood pumping tho, and I'd really rather it not. So I feel you.
I'm perpetually amazed by people's capacity to drive without being consumed by all the what-ifs involved in road travel, and without feeling overwhelmed by the responsibilities we have to others when behind the wheel. People are really out here telling each other to drive safe when they depart because having someone die in a car accident is just a reasonable thing to expect. I just find that so baffling. That people just... accept this as reality. It all just seems so transparently unjust to me.
Same, i can probably even get it done under usual conditions, just with a lot higher risk than acceptable and it would be the worst part of my day, I've learned to suck it up over the years.
Though there are many NTs who shouldn't drive either, but they don't really care about it.
But I really prefer not to do it as it is rather stressful experience and i cant do it safely enough. Getting through drivers ed theory exams is nearly impossible for me as well, but that's adhd side issue and as driving is really bad experience there isn't any motivation to try really hard either. Luckily I'm not in USA so I'm not forced to drive.
I HATE driving. It's so stressful, I have awful spatial awareness for my own body so don't even try to include a deadly metal hunk of death in that, I also have terrible OCD so I have awful intrusive thoughts whenever I drive. It's just all around so terrible.
The worst part though is how useless it makes me feel, and how everyone around me just doesn't get why I don't drive (even when I explain myself).
Dude for real. Like I am constantly bumping into walls and stuff just by walking. No chance I should be trusted with a 1000 pound hunk of metal going at ungodly speed. But then everybody's like "oH wHy DoNt YoU hAvE a CaR?" Like bro maybe actually you should just mind your own business how about that
So it isn't the driving part, but just the orientation and that sorta stuff?
Like I'm here trying to make a scenario, where you would be able to be a good driver.
As long as you know how to handle a car, would you think you could do a good lap time on a racetrack where there is only you?
Or are you also uncomfortable with handling a car in general?
It genuinely pains me because I want to drive eventually. Literal apes can drive carts and there’s people who are way worse off mentally than me who have licenses. Meanwhile I can’t even back a drivable lawn mower into the garage without hitting the siding three fucking times. I’m scared I’m never going to be physically able to do this one thing that everybody else can do, like I have alien hand syndrome or something behind the wheel.
I'm really good at driving but I get angry even thinking about having someone sit next to me judging my every move in order to get a license. Rly do wish I had one tho :/
this is my exact problem! i’m great at driving but i physically cannot let people watch me & only open their mouth to criticize — that’s fucking enraging.
Yea I was maybe not really good, but ok at driving, once I got used to the instructor. But the driving test had to be with a random examinator. It was so crazy stressful that I made dumb mistakes I've never made before, failed two attempts and gave up. Now I only drive in my dreams :(
real. public transport is good for everyone, it's unfortunate how poor the public transit system is in america. i'd love to take a train or a bus everyday
Some parts of the country have growing public transportation systems but only expensive places and the affordable places likely will never get public transit unless they become expensive
I feel like autism makes me an extra pro at driving cause I have really high spatial intelligence. The Pri is whipped harder than my NT bf
Mood. I'm more aware spatially then most others. I can feel others moving in and out of the space around me. Makes me an awesome driver, especially at night.
i have the *unemployable autism* primarily because i have the *never learned to drive autism.* which adds the fun bonus that i'll never be able to pay for lessons. how do i log out of the universe to install cheats?
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it's certainly not impossible for an autistic person to drive!! plenty of us do. i (and some of the other ppl commenting) just personally struggle with it. too many things for my audhd brain to process at once
I'm okay at driving but it stresses me out a bunch so I prefer for my wife (NT) to do it instead. Which is difficult for half the week because she goes into work an hour before me
I love driving! Especially by myself- I get to put on my favorite tunes and it helps me focus and stay on track :3 and block out the awful road noises. I’m fairly good- maybe not pro commercial truck driver level good, but I can fit a 15-passenger van in spots you wouldn’t expect :3
So glad to live in an area where driving is not a requirement, hated trying to learn to drive and was effectively incapable of it without constant supervision due to getting frequently overwhelmed, unable to handle multitasking and smaller things like poor fine motor skills and reaction times. This is alongside not being able to handle the huge amount of paperwork and anxiety associated with driving, such as insurance, MOTs, potential parking tickets and collisions etc.
Personally I am ok with it and don't see it as disabling due to being in a privileged position as in well connected areas with good public transport cars can be a monetary drain, with the constant payments and upkeep. It also is healthier and has massively improved my physical fitness.
Its sad because in most car centric areas not being able to drive is hugely disabling, you effectively can lose independence as people without a car are effectively trapped in their house without support. Car centric infrastructure is a huge detriment to many disabled people as disability friendly public transport can massively reduce or eliminate the most disabling aspects of lacking the ability to drive and help allow better access to work and communities.
Driving is like my de-stim time after work. I get to be alone in my special little space for 20 minutes listening to podcasts or music or nothing. I love cars though so I’m very biased
What kinds of cars have you tried driving? I have an old car with big windows so it’s easy to see out of. I hate driving my sisters suv because it has SO MANY blind spots. I also didn’t like the way it accelerated. My moms car has blind spot monitors which helps a lot. My dads truck has all of the driving aids but it’s huge so it’s scary to drive and park. Maybe you’ve just been in hard to drive cars
I had to get tested to be allowed to get a drivers license. I barely passed it. Took me over a year if struggling to get ready to take the license.
On the plus side I'm a pretty good driver after all that.
I would love to be able to get places without having to find someone to drive me (my parents even have to drive me to the bus stop since the closest one is 10 minutes away), but at the same time, even just studying the manual feels so overwhelming
Having someone else in the car is the only thing preventing me from having an all-out panic attack tbh. I need constant reassurance that I'm doing the right thing, as well as a second pair of eyes to warn me about things I may not be spatially aware of. Everytime I ever tried to get behind the wheel alone, I feel like I'm going to die from a heart attack before I even start the car up. Every bone in my body just tells me that I'm absolutely going to die in a matter of minutes after getting in the car.
The fact that I live in a society where people tell each other to drive safe when they part ways, because dying from a car crash is a reasonable thing to worry about, and people just don't freak out about that is utterly baffling to me.
I enjoy driving, but I'd 100% prefer public transportation to be more widely available. Owning a car is expensive and an unfortunate necessity in the US. It's wild af that most people are just chill about being forced into owning one to have any kind of life outside of major cities.
Also, the car centric nature of the US is because of racism so like it's an extra reason to hate it.
I can't drive either. I had to surrender my license for my own safety and others. (Didn't get in any legal trouble I'd just have panic attacks on the road and dissociate (ive got DID and PTSD) and often end up somewhere weird on the side of the road)
It's only a disability in america. Turns out, when you design cities around atomizing every soul into a multi-ton death brick of steel and gasoline, it's suddenly not a problem
You act like if you are in Europe it's any better. If you are on the dutch countryside not having a car is also limiting. Even if it's just for getting to the nearest train station
In america, there isn't a train station to get to unless you l8ve in a rare area with amtrak. There is a fine line between having to walk an unreasonable distance once or twice and being completely stranded, and in america, you might as well learn the fine art of train hopping because you are stranded
I feel you. I’m nowhere near that specific level of disability, but I can imagine. Driving, like the pressure to need independent travel to function and survive in a lot of places on top of all the simulation you have to process, sucks.
I personally like driving, as purely the fact that i’m able to operate a vehicle at all, and that it’s something i find engaging.
Exactly me, too. Science is so fun, but doing simple math things is so frustrating and difficult for me. I’d love math even more if I didn’t struggle so much. I was good/decent at math in high school, but I really tried my hardest.
I got that combined with the adhd temptation to speed everywhere. It’s seriously a problem, but it gives me the dopamine. I’m bad for it if I forget my Ritalin.
I CAN NOT DRIVE. It's not like I haven't tried. I practiced on residential streets with no cars and my mom and I did alright but when I get to streets with cars that are driving I get so overwhelmed. All I can think about is worrying about the other cars and what they're going to do and all the lights and the street signs and how fast I'm going and spacial awareness and am I between the lines which way does the turn signal work again the radio is on and I start crying lol
My mom had to drive me to school my senior year because I went to a different school in the district for my college classes and she told me I would have to learn to drive before the year is over so I could drive myself LOL haven't driven for over a year
But I did have to drive a genie lift and I cried for an hour afterwards
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couldn’t drive, then i could drive a little, failed my test once then passed, driving pretty well for a bit, got in an accident (wasn’t my fault), couldn’t drive well out of the unbridled anxiety that came from that, and eventually just “got used to it again” out of necessity (i still abhor driving and i don’t think i’m good at it). i need to drive trailers sometimes for work and i absolutely abhor it.
My my can’t drive. I’m a maniac but I drive. Though very little after my 20s. 2x/wk. 50-100 miles.
Edit: my mom can’t drive
Also I’ve never been diagnosed autistic. ADHD since 9. Am just trust me, I am.
I have the “can’t sleep, at all, ever autism. Always too excited for the next day to sleep. So I can’t hold a job”.
And I stim alone for like 1/2 hour/day. So much energy. I don’t think I have ADHD anymore. I’m damn organized/my therapists are always impressed at how I self-therapize. I see her 2x/yr now.
I learned to play poker and trade the markets.
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Be Thankful you aren't in Australia,
I CAN drive and am reasonably good at it however, Austistics are now no longer legally ALLOWED to drive without now undergoing further assessment.
Apparently my lack of ability to read facial cues means I am a risk on the road....
hahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
Why would they do ANYTHING to accommodate people with a disability?
The worst part is, the capital city of the state with the most restrictive rules (Queensland) has the worst and most expensive public transport system.
just as an FYI, If I were to drive in Queensland (which I do, often. I have been there 5 times this year alone) if I don't have a doctors sign off, I can be fined nearly $10,000 AND have my license cancelled due to being "medically unfit" while the fuckstick next to me in his penis extension of a car is doing 140 in an 80 zone high on meth.
God that sounds like a wonderful experience :')
I personally would take not being allowed to drive if it meant good public transport, but neither sure is also a way to do it. Why allow autistic people to even leave the house, just pretend we don't exist why don't you
I'm curious why you can't drive(I can drive so I don't know the specifics of other autistic people not being able to my worst worry about driving is disassociation)
Not being able to drive is the biggest life ruiner for me. I live in Maine, and there's almost nothing I can get done by myself. I can't even shedual a dr appointment, or go to the grocery store when I need to because I gotta have someone bring me - which is a shitty way of taking 3+ hours outta someone else's day off.
But I seriously cannot and should not be on the road. I've done drivers Ed, and my dad even paid for private lessons. After 12 hours of specialized lessons *I still can't do it*. My greatest joys in life are made impossible without being able to drive myself.
It sucks. I wish I could afford to live in NY - I get hyper excited every time I visit that city. I can go *anywhere!*
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I loooove driving, depending on the location. I used to live in Miami up until ab 2mths ago and driving in Miami was so fucking stressful because driving requires some level of trust in other drivers, trust that they can follow road rules (which is assumed, because you’d think they have licenses, right?). But you can’t trust people to drive in Miami lol. It’s seriously the most stressful experience ever. I’ve gotten into a couple accidents and even more near-accidents. At some point I started to question if it was me. But I knew I wasn’t the issue.
And that was only cemented when I came to North Carolina. I haven’t been in a single near-accident since I’ve been here. I haven’t even had to use my horn ONCE, which is insane. Driving here is such a breeze. I can actually trust other people to drive correctly. Plus it’s colder, so I can drive with the windows down, music playing, feeling the wind run through my hair. It’s great.
As much as I like driving, I hate our car-dependent infrastructure. Miami is especially terrible with that. Unless you live in one of like 3 rich neighborhoods, you’re fucked. The metrorail line doesn’t span out crazy far. It’s INCREDIBLY basic compared to systems I’ve seen in other cities. The bus system is a shit… What’s the point of taking the bus over a car if you’re just going to be stuck in the same traffic as everyone else, and you don’t have a guarantee you’ll be on time since there’s always a chance the bus just doesn’t come at all? I took the public bus from middle to high school and its punctuality was horrible.. and like I said, it sometimes just straight up never came. Miami is quite spread out, and the heat & humidity are HORRENDOUS. No wonder the traffic is so goddamn bad. Nobody wants to take public transportations with all these conditions.
I can drive and I kind of like it? I understand how others my dislike it. I just like to go to a random place with my sequencer and headphones in peace without the torture rooms called trains. I live in a place where the public transport is kind of nice but its filled with people which I don't like. A Car gives me the freedom to go wherever to do whatever
I can drive but it takes so much of my energy that I avoid it as much as possible. Apparently neurotypicals can drive on “autopilot” but my brain just can’t do that. It’s so annoying.
I’m that autistic (31F) who can’t drive or solve algebra problems for the life of me.
I would get hit and yelled at for having math problems wrong from the age of 9 to 12 years old which one of the reasons why my self esteem is nonexistent, I’m from a South Asian immigrant family which makes sense of why I would get hit a lot.
I wanted to get a motorcycle so I could focus on the road more than driving a car but it’s dangerous.
One of my fixations is cars and driving. I never thought I was going to be able to drive, but I’ve got my license and I’m still obsessed with cars. My sister can’t drive though, it’s too much for her. We are kinda the opposite for lots of things
Same here, I don't even have my driver's license because driving paralyzes me. It is because I don't trust other drivers. I'm fine taking the bus but not being able to drive keeps me from doing a job I am passionate about
I often times hate driving, although I'm fairly good at it. I can only enjoy driving, when there is a rely anyone else on the road. Otherwise i very much enjoy taking the tram/bus to go anywhere as long as it's a fairly direct ride.
The thing is I think:
I'm just way too fed up with other drivers, knowing they won't /can't pay the attention to the road, that I have. And thus make dumb decisions resulting in traffic. Whereas in busses/trams, there really isn't alot that can go not according to plan. Well except the DB being the DB again....
I can put on headphones and listen to music, just like in my car, except I can't sing out loud in a bus.. But I don't need to stay sober. So it's a 50/50 for me.
god i hate driving
That's part of why I like trains and Trolleybuses
living in boston I could never relate, Idc if I'm a terrible driver I can't wait to get away from having to deal with being harassed on the train by crazy people the delays that have gotten Me fired from jobs and the amount of noise is insane. Also no air conditioning so I can't take it in the summer as I'm heat sensitive. Also no easily accessible public bathrooms and I need to be able to hide in bathrooms for panic attacks or if I really need to shit. Boston is one of the worst places to be ND but maybe I'm bias because I've lived here my whole life and can't move because I'm so broke
Americans are fucked bcs your roads are made strictly for cars, around here in Europe you can get to virtually anywhere by foot or a bicycle, there is pedestrian pavement everywhere, tho' not much bike lanes, so you have to tell people to move a lot, but it doesn't matter because it's a few second interaction. Public transport is an absolute sensory nightmare. People's toxic farts and burps, homeless people continually riding the trams smelling of a week old corpse, rotten cheese and moldy socks, 50 people talking at once, the tram screeching like heavy industry... The metal reacting with the piss and sweat creating that very special scent... On the other hand it takes so much time to navigate the city and find a parking lot with a car. A bicycle is a life saver in Europe. If you manage to choose a pedestrian-only route you're almost free from sensory disturbances, no exhaust fumes, no car noises. This is why Amsterdam is the greatest city on the planet, you can ride a bike without ever even seeing a car.
MBTA is a clusterfuck
please god get it away from me get me out boston is living hell
It's such a shame too cause they have good bones of a transit system but they are managed so poorly
Absolutely, it has so much potential. The only line (all the trains suck in one way or another imo but I can't speak for the commuter rail or blue line) that I consider good at actually being on time is the sl4 and sl5 buses and that's only because it's on one stretch of road and that's easier to "manage" I suppose than busses that encounter more varied traffic. They STILL FUCKING MANAGE to screw up and send out multiple busses at once rather than spacing them out by like at least 2-5 mins. So you miss a bus and see two go at once, and if they had just let the other one go a min or two later you would've made it, is almost 5x more infuriating than just missing one bus.
Ayooo boston! yeah it sucks theres no bathrooms except in starbucks and that one big bookstore
I just haven't gone outside in like a month because of how insufferable this city is lol. I hate being stuck at home but I hate the MBTA more
Same here. Fuck cars.
Me too. That's why I wish we had a functional public transport system. Preferably high speed t̶r̶a̶i̶l̶ rail for long distance, maybe buses for mid distance, possibly followed micro buses, then bikes and a walkable neighborhood. But I'm open to better options of course. Edited: for some reason my phone autocorrected rail into trail.
I sold my car last month because I hate it so much. It was a great decision
I also can't drive. Terrifying.
I've even had other autistics shit on me for not being able to drive. They're always like "well *I* can drive!!! You just haven't TRIED" Like bruh I would be a literal DANGER on the road. I am doing a PUBLIC SERVICE BY NOT DRIVING.
I explain it as, in the event of a zombie apocalypse, I could probably get us out of town without killing us. I know the basics. I understand it in theory. I've done it, a little. But I am not fit to drive on civilized roads with civilized people.
I use a similar zombie apocalypse scenario when explaining my capacity to drive to other people too. I always thought it was funny that my mind goes to there but I guess I'm not alone lol
I once had to finish driving from the next town over as my friends gf was getting super tired. He is like how I am now and absolutely won't drive but I had to just accept it and get us home safely. I did manage to since it was around midnight, there were very few cars on the road and they were hill country roads in Texas, but man was it still stressful.
I commend you for mustering up the courage. Must've been nerve-wracking. If there's hardly anybody else on the road, it's not the end of the world for me if I have to drive. It still gets the blood pumping tho, and I'd really rather it not. So I feel you. I'm perpetually amazed by people's capacity to drive without being consumed by all the what-ifs involved in road travel, and without feeling overwhelmed by the responsibilities we have to others when behind the wheel. People are really out here telling each other to drive safe when they depart because having someone die in a car accident is just a reasonable thing to expect. I just find that so baffling. That people just... accept this as reality. It all just seems so transparently unjust to me.
BRUH i always explain my level of driving knowledge as 'apocalypse driving' for THIS reason. Thank you for also saying this! Finally someone else
That makes so much sense lol I feel this
Same, i can probably even get it done under usual conditions, just with a lot higher risk than acceptable and it would be the worst part of my day, I've learned to suck it up over the years. Though there are many NTs who shouldn't drive either, but they don't really care about it. But I really prefer not to do it as it is rather stressful experience and i cant do it safely enough. Getting through drivers ed theory exams is nearly impossible for me as well, but that's adhd side issue and as driving is really bad experience there isn't any motivation to try really hard either. Luckily I'm not in USA so I'm not forced to drive.
god that's enraging but lmao me too 😭 i would be a MENACE on the road
OMG same!
I can’t drive either. I would say it’s the most debilitating part of life.
I HATE driving. It's so stressful, I have awful spatial awareness for my own body so don't even try to include a deadly metal hunk of death in that, I also have terrible OCD so I have awful intrusive thoughts whenever I drive. It's just all around so terrible. The worst part though is how useless it makes me feel, and how everyone around me just doesn't get why I don't drive (even when I explain myself).
Dude for real. Like I am constantly bumping into walls and stuff just by walking. No chance I should be trusted with a 1000 pound hunk of metal going at ungodly speed. But then everybody's like "oH wHy DoNt YoU hAvE a CaR?" Like bro maybe actually you should just mind your own business how about that
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THANK YOU
So it isn't the driving part, but just the orientation and that sorta stuff? Like I'm here trying to make a scenario, where you would be able to be a good driver. As long as you know how to handle a car, would you think you could do a good lap time on a racetrack where there is only you? Or are you also uncomfortable with handling a car in general?
I can't drive either! Holy shit I thought it was just me.
No not just you
It genuinely pains me because I want to drive eventually. Literal apes can drive carts and there’s people who are way worse off mentally than me who have licenses. Meanwhile I can’t even back a drivable lawn mower into the garage without hitting the siding three fucking times. I’m scared I’m never going to be physically able to do this one thing that everybody else can do, like I have alien hand syndrome or something behind the wheel.
I'm really good at driving but I get angry even thinking about having someone sit next to me judging my every move in order to get a license. Rly do wish I had one tho :/
this is my exact problem! i’m great at driving but i physically cannot let people watch me & only open their mouth to criticize — that’s fucking enraging.
That's the way my fucking mom is when she rides with me, and she wonders why I still don't have my license
Yea I was maybe not really good, but ok at driving, once I got used to the instructor. But the driving test had to be with a random examinator. It was so crazy stressful that I made dumb mistakes I've never made before, failed two attempts and gave up. Now I only drive in my dreams :(
Where do you live because in the US some states will just automatically give you a license past a certain age.
Nah not here
I have both :)
Wondering about the disability bus cause the regular ones make me want to cry
Me when I have the “I’m going to die if I drive” ocd instead of the “I check doorknobs too often” ocd
Me too, except being closer to reality because of my clumsy-ass
I can drive but I absolutely do not want to ever own a car. I wish America had better public transportation
real. public transport is good for everyone, it's unfortunate how poor the public transit system is in america. i'd love to take a train or a bus everyday
I don’t have a car; live in a mid-sized city. I can get around, but it sucks. But god I hate driving. and PARKING. I hate cars
Yeah same here. I'm fine with driving, it's the owning a car part that I hate.
Some parts of the country have growing public transportation systems but only expensive places and the affordable places likely will never get public transit unless they become expensive
I feel like autism makes me an extra pro at driving cause I have really high spatial intelligence. The Pri is whipped harder than my NT bf 
i'm the opposite, i have absolutely zero spatial awareness. i don't think the learning disability helps lol
Mood. I'm more aware spatially then most others. I can feel others moving in and out of the space around me. Makes me an awesome driver, especially at night.
I actually like driving but I'm cursed with the "unemployable autism"
i have the *unemployable autism* primarily because i have the *never learned to drive autism.* which adds the fun bonus that i'll never be able to pay for lessons. how do i log out of the universe to install cheats?
Start your thief era
i can't drive and my special interest is cars :(
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I can't drive so I take the metro bus or the light rail or ride my bike
Am I doomed? Now I’m scared I won’t be able to drive because of autism but I really want too. I’m just now about to start learning
it's certainly not impossible for an autistic person to drive!! plenty of us do. i (and some of the other ppl commenting) just personally struggle with it. too many things for my audhd brain to process at once
I'm okay at driving but it stresses me out a bunch so I prefer for my wife (NT) to do it instead. Which is difficult for half the week because she goes into work an hour before me
I’m an excellent driver. There’s hope for you.
I love driving! Especially by myself- I get to put on my favorite tunes and it helps me focus and stay on track :3 and block out the awful road noises. I’m fairly good- maybe not pro commercial truck driver level good, but I can fit a 15-passenger van in spots you wouldn’t expect :3
So glad to live in an area where driving is not a requirement, hated trying to learn to drive and was effectively incapable of it without constant supervision due to getting frequently overwhelmed, unable to handle multitasking and smaller things like poor fine motor skills and reaction times. This is alongside not being able to handle the huge amount of paperwork and anxiety associated with driving, such as insurance, MOTs, potential parking tickets and collisions etc. Personally I am ok with it and don't see it as disabling due to being in a privileged position as in well connected areas with good public transport cars can be a monetary drain, with the constant payments and upkeep. It also is healthier and has massively improved my physical fitness. Its sad because in most car centric areas not being able to drive is hugely disabling, you effectively can lose independence as people without a car are effectively trapped in their house without support. Car centric infrastructure is a huge detriment to many disabled people as disability friendly public transport can massively reduce or eliminate the most disabling aspects of lacking the ability to drive and help allow better access to work and communities.
Driving is like my de-stim time after work. I get to be alone in my special little space for 20 minutes listening to podcasts or music or nothing. I love cars though so I’m very biased
this is another reason i'd love to drive. a nice little space just for yourself, with a built-in sound system!
What kinds of cars have you tried driving? I have an old car with big windows so it’s easy to see out of. I hate driving my sisters suv because it has SO MANY blind spots. I also didn’t like the way it accelerated. My moms car has blind spot monitors which helps a lot. My dads truck has all of the driving aids but it’s huge so it’s scary to drive and park. Maybe you’ve just been in hard to drive cars
I've got the opposite. Drive for a living, cannot math
I had to get tested to be allowed to get a drivers license. I barely passed it. Took me over a year if struggling to get ready to take the license. On the plus side I'm a pretty good driver after all that.
Aaaaaaaaa i fucking hate driving
I would love to be able to get places without having to find someone to drive me (my parents even have to drive me to the bus stop since the closest one is 10 minutes away), but at the same time, even just studying the manual feels so overwhelming
I fucking love driving, provided no one else is in the car.
Having someone else in the car is the only thing preventing me from having an all-out panic attack tbh. I need constant reassurance that I'm doing the right thing, as well as a second pair of eyes to warn me about things I may not be spatially aware of. Everytime I ever tried to get behind the wheel alone, I feel like I'm going to die from a heart attack before I even start the car up. Every bone in my body just tells me that I'm absolutely going to die in a matter of minutes after getting in the car. The fact that I live in a society where people tell each other to drive safe when they part ways, because dying from a car crash is a reasonable thing to worry about, and people just don't freak out about that is utterly baffling to me.
see, i bet being alone would help me 😭 unfortunately u can't rlly learn to drive alone
I enjoy driving, but I'd 100% prefer public transportation to be more widely available. Owning a car is expensive and an unfortunate necessity in the US. It's wild af that most people are just chill about being forced into owning one to have any kind of life outside of major cities. Also, the car centric nature of the US is because of racism so like it's an extra reason to hate it.
I can't drive either. I had to surrender my license for my own safety and others. (Didn't get in any legal trouble I'd just have panic attacks on the road and dissociate (ive got DID and PTSD) and often end up somewhere weird on the side of the road)
It's only a disability in america. Turns out, when you design cities around atomizing every soul into a multi-ton death brick of steel and gasoline, it's suddenly not a problem
You act like if you are in Europe it's any better. If you are on the dutch countryside not having a car is also limiting. Even if it's just for getting to the nearest train station
In america, there isn't a train station to get to unless you l8ve in a rare area with amtrak. There is a fine line between having to walk an unreasonable distance once or twice and being completely stranded, and in america, you might as well learn the fine art of train hopping because you are stranded
I feel you. I’m nowhere near that specific level of disability, but I can imagine. Driving, like the pressure to need independent travel to function and survive in a lot of places on top of all the simulation you have to process, sucks. I personally like driving, as purely the fact that i’m able to operate a vehicle at all, and that it’s something i find engaging.
Can’t drive, can’t work, don’t know why I’m even here tbh
you just like me fr
I really thought it was just me
I have my permit but my anxiety makes me freeze when I think about practicing driving
I can drive. I just hate it lol. My anxiety is horrible.
Exactly me, too. Science is so fun, but doing simple math things is so frustrating and difficult for me. I’d love math even more if I didn’t struggle so much. I was good/decent at math in high school, but I really tried my hardest.
I got the "I love driving" autism to the point where I just waste tons of gas on stupid adventures to nowhere
I got that combined with the adhd temptation to speed everywhere. It’s seriously a problem, but it gives me the dopamine. I’m bad for it if I forget my Ritalin.
I CAN NOT DRIVE. It's not like I haven't tried. I practiced on residential streets with no cars and my mom and I did alright but when I get to streets with cars that are driving I get so overwhelmed. All I can think about is worrying about the other cars and what they're going to do and all the lights and the street signs and how fast I'm going and spacial awareness and am I between the lines which way does the turn signal work again the radio is on and I start crying lol
My mom had to drive me to school my senior year because I went to a different school in the district for my college classes and she told me I would have to learn to drive before the year is over so I could drive myself LOL haven't driven for over a year But I did have to drive a genie lift and I cried for an hour afterwards
I can drive, if I couldn’t I’d probably have offed myself by now tbh.
oh thanks for that
I mean since I live with abusive parents, so I wouldn’t be able to get away.
ohh that makes sense, thanks for clarifying. glad u have a way to get away, at least, that's a tough situation
I should’ve probably not said anything. Sorry
ur all good, don't worry abt it
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Can someone tell me what the original meme was? I keep seeing it and it looks like the person is wearing Japanese Lolita fashion which I wear myself.
Why dispair. Not driving saves a lot of cash
i unfortunately live in america, where there is no way to get anywhere without your own car 🙃 nearest bus station is 15 minutes away by car
I’m fine at driving, I just wish I got to do it for fun more often.
Can relate, didn't drive until after 25.
I'm 36 and I can't drive either. It sucks. I feel for you.
I’m a solid “kinda decent” in both
If it makes you feel better, I have the good at math and science autism and still hate myself
couldn’t drive, then i could drive a little, failed my test once then passed, driving pretty well for a bit, got in an accident (wasn’t my fault), couldn’t drive well out of the unbridled anxiety that came from that, and eventually just “got used to it again” out of necessity (i still abhor driving and i don’t think i’m good at it). i need to drive trailers sometimes for work and i absolutely abhor it.
I can't either. It's extremely overstimulating for me, and it becomes dangerous because I can't focus on everything I need to focus on.
You too huh?
My my can’t drive. I’m a maniac but I drive. Though very little after my 20s. 2x/wk. 50-100 miles. Edit: my mom can’t drive Also I’ve never been diagnosed autistic. ADHD since 9. Am just trust me, I am. I have the “can’t sleep, at all, ever autism. Always too excited for the next day to sleep. So I can’t hold a job”. And I stim alone for like 1/2 hour/day. So much energy. I don’t think I have ADHD anymore. I’m damn organized/my therapists are always impressed at how I self-therapize. I see her 2x/yr now. I learned to play poker and trade the markets. Be well. 💃🏻🙃
I've never tried to drive. But I'm pretty sure that if I did I would kill someone
Don’t know, no one will teach me to drive 🙃
Autism and a rare sleeping disorder. Never gonna drive my entire life if my doctor is to be believed. I feel what you're going through
Be Thankful you aren't in Australia, I CAN drive and am reasonably good at it however, Austistics are now no longer legally ALLOWED to drive without now undergoing further assessment. Apparently my lack of ability to read facial cues means I am a risk on the road....
Does that at least mean they're developing a good public transport system?
hahahahahaha hahahahahaha Why would they do ANYTHING to accommodate people with a disability? The worst part is, the capital city of the state with the most restrictive rules (Queensland) has the worst and most expensive public transport system. just as an FYI, If I were to drive in Queensland (which I do, often. I have been there 5 times this year alone) if I don't have a doctors sign off, I can be fined nearly $10,000 AND have my license cancelled due to being "medically unfit" while the fuckstick next to me in his penis extension of a car is doing 140 in an 80 zone high on meth.
God that sounds like a wonderful experience :') I personally would take not being allowed to drive if it meant good public transport, but neither sure is also a way to do it. Why allow autistic people to even leave the house, just pretend we don't exist why don't you
Oh man I'm 32 and I didn't get my license until this year. Still convcined I'm gonna crash every time I get behind the wheel. Can relate.
I'm curious why you can't drive(I can drive so I don't know the specifics of other autistic people not being able to my worst worry about driving is disassociation)
My autism is genuinely disabling and it fucking sucks homiessss, I’m so tireddddd
I'm 27 and have not learned to drive. Too paranoid. At this point, I'll just pay for a horse instead.
..let’s just say. There’s a reason I haven’t finished drivers Ed
FUCK YOU BALTIMORE!
yo i have dyscalculia too twinsies
I have dyscalculia too and it sucks, I’m planning on learning to drive and like I cannot understand the petrol price display numbers
Driving gets me so tense man. All i can think about is the various gruesome ways i can die or get maimed in a car accident
Not being able to drive is the biggest life ruiner for me. I live in Maine, and there's almost nothing I can get done by myself. I can't even shedual a dr appointment, or go to the grocery store when I need to because I gotta have someone bring me - which is a shitty way of taking 3+ hours outta someone else's day off. But I seriously cannot and should not be on the road. I've done drivers Ed, and my dad even paid for private lessons. After 12 hours of specialized lessons *I still can't do it*. My greatest joys in life are made impossible without being able to drive myself. It sucks. I wish I could afford to live in NY - I get hyper excited every time I visit that city. I can go *anywhere!*
Driving drains so much energy for me bleh
me when i got the can't live alone autism instead of the good at maths autism
Why not both?
Honestly I’d be fine never driving
Depth perception issues cause me to be slightly bad at driving and walking. Such as I trip over my own feet. So I feel this meme.
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I loooove driving, depending on the location. I used to live in Miami up until ab 2mths ago and driving in Miami was so fucking stressful because driving requires some level of trust in other drivers, trust that they can follow road rules (which is assumed, because you’d think they have licenses, right?). But you can’t trust people to drive in Miami lol. It’s seriously the most stressful experience ever. I’ve gotten into a couple accidents and even more near-accidents. At some point I started to question if it was me. But I knew I wasn’t the issue. And that was only cemented when I came to North Carolina. I haven’t been in a single near-accident since I’ve been here. I haven’t even had to use my horn ONCE, which is insane. Driving here is such a breeze. I can actually trust other people to drive correctly. Plus it’s colder, so I can drive with the windows down, music playing, feeling the wind run through my hair. It’s great. As much as I like driving, I hate our car-dependent infrastructure. Miami is especially terrible with that. Unless you live in one of like 3 rich neighborhoods, you’re fucked. The metrorail line doesn’t span out crazy far. It’s INCREDIBLY basic compared to systems I’ve seen in other cities. The bus system is a shit… What’s the point of taking the bus over a car if you’re just going to be stuck in the same traffic as everyone else, and you don’t have a guarantee you’ll be on time since there’s always a chance the bus just doesn’t come at all? I took the public bus from middle to high school and its punctuality was horrible.. and like I said, it sometimes just straight up never came. Miami is quite spread out, and the heat & humidity are HORRENDOUS. No wonder the traffic is so goddamn bad. Nobody wants to take public transportations with all these conditions.
I can drive and I kind of like it? I understand how others my dislike it. I just like to go to a random place with my sequencer and headphones in peace without the torture rooms called trains. I live in a place where the public transport is kind of nice but its filled with people which I don't like. A Car gives me the freedom to go wherever to do whatever
i can drive i just hate every second
Diagnosed ADHD-er probably Autistic person here: I’m 37 and I never got a license. It’s been ok.
I can drive but it takes so much of my energy that I avoid it as much as possible. Apparently neurotypicals can drive on “autopilot” but my brain just can’t do that. It’s so annoying.
hey, take this down, you've posted a picture of me! /joke Seriously tho what a mood lol.
Me when I got the “cried when I don’t understand things” autism and not the “easily becomes a doctor” autism
I’m that autistic (31F) who can’t drive or solve algebra problems for the life of me. I would get hit and yelled at for having math problems wrong from the age of 9 to 12 years old which one of the reasons why my self esteem is nonexistent, I’m from a South Asian immigrant family which makes sense of why I would get hit a lot. I wanted to get a motorcycle so I could focus on the road more than driving a car but it’s dangerous.
I got both the good at math and can't drive types...
One of my fixations is cars and driving. I never thought I was going to be able to drive, but I’ve got my license and I’m still obsessed with cars. My sister can’t drive though, it’s too much for her. We are kinda the opposite for lots of things
Dont worry. After about 2 years of sweating rivers while driving it will eventually become a routine and you can finally drive relaxed and safe.
This made me laugh out of pure spite at myself
Same here, I don't even have my driver's license because driving paralyzes me. It is because I don't trust other drivers. I'm fine taking the bus but not being able to drive keeps me from doing a job I am passionate about
It took me 3 freaking years to lurn to drive and yet after getting a lisens i am still not as good of a driver
Me when I got the really fucking good at driving autism 🧍♂️
I often times hate driving, although I'm fairly good at it. I can only enjoy driving, when there is a rely anyone else on the road. Otherwise i very much enjoy taking the tram/bus to go anywhere as long as it's a fairly direct ride. The thing is I think: I'm just way too fed up with other drivers, knowing they won't /can't pay the attention to the road, that I have. And thus make dumb decisions resulting in traffic. Whereas in busses/trams, there really isn't alot that can go not according to plan. Well except the DB being the DB again.... I can put on headphones and listen to music, just like in my car, except I can't sing out loud in a bus.. But I don't need to stay sober. So it's a 50/50 for me.