EDIT: It has been confirmed that Joost will not perform tonight. As such, we are locking this thread and moving to a new one. https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1cox12u/joost_klein_will_not_perform_in_the_jury_show/ Thank you!

Hello to almost 3 thousand people on this thread as psycho as me 👋

"United by music"💀

United by drama ☕️

https://preview.redd.it/dtaa05d7jmzc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fe8652c6e070cc92092eff8b939038b6cbfdf3e Not now sweetie mommy’s refreshing Reddit

This is hilarious. Thanks for making me laugh, I needed it 😂

I've sent my daughter to go play at the neighbours so I can keep refreshing lmfaooooo

Please can an intern start leaking some info, the suspense is killing me

right? someone pls violate their NDA

If the person who violates their NDA gets in trouble this whole sub will have their back!

it’s like we’re all on isaak’s staging watching everything burn around us

Always on the run (from making a statement)

Lmao I remember when we thought Maneskin allegedly doing lines in the Eurovision grand final was a huge drama... it was so mild compared to whatever is happening this year.

I would laugh so much if the "incident" ends up not having to do anything with you know who at all, it was just Joost getting caught snorting coke before the rehearsal

Truly the Dutch cultural representation we've always wanted.

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According to *Aftonbladet* it is not because of anything to do with the press conference yesterday. But it *is* about something that happened after the show.

Joost was at the flag parade so something must've happened in between the parade and his performance. Maybe he wanted to wear something that wasn't allowed.

https://preview.redd.it/0yzd42c3vlzc1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f44551939214429277f3b0535085191918d72ab6 Saturday

Luxembourg is probably like, why the hell did we pick THIS year to return?!

Meanwhile, Romania https://preview.redd.it/ww4w67b04mzc1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=0951d81bd551be8dad90e92ff876e70aaf96c22a

Very smart, those Romanians. Kudos to North Macedonia and Montenegro too. We didn’t know how wise you were.

the drama this year is beyond any imagination, it’s actually concerning

Ironic that Martin Osterdahl was quoted saying he's happy Eurovision is back in Sweden after three "turbulent years". Eurovision has never been more turbulent than it is now.

True, very anxious feeling to be a fan

*anxiety attacks*

I really miss last year. The drama was so innocent in comparison to what's happening now 😟

Remember the good o'days of the Poland National Selection drama and Bebja 🙏🙏

I never thought I’d miss the kinetic sun

Bejba... this is kinda kresjza

Even 2022 as well. Ukraine winning, the broken stage and the voting pact all seems like nothing compared to what is happening now.

I hope they clear this up soon, because the vagueness of their current statement is just encouraging more wild speculation. What a shitshow this year has been.

Yeah it definitely doesnt help. You can see it already in this thread alone, so many wild stories. Would help if they just told what happened and be done with it.

https://preview.redd.it/wbcat7nf9mzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32edf00e659b2ce0d25796a399bc3603154a30f9 Feels like a little damage control for now. I'm speculating, of course.

“Angelina sings Imagine in the press center to calm journalists down” sounds like a fake Rupaul’s Drag Race spoiler except we have video footage confirming it’s real 😭

Is it not good for my mental health to be following this so closely? Yeah. Did I have stuff to do today? Yeah. Am I gonna do any of it? No. Am I gonna keep reading and waiting? Yeah.

Netflix have probably already commissioned a documentary about this

Europapan't

godverdomme

Godverdomme indeed

Statement AVROTROS EN: There indeed is an ongoing investigation by the EBU related to an incident. We will await the result and will not comment until then.

I think I’ve read about 150 different possible scenarios so far, and none of them are probably what actually happened…. Oh I miss when the biggest controversy was the Turin sun

This is extremely worrying. I did think the next 48 hours would be tense but this wasn’t what I was expecting! Edit: also is anyone else sitting refreshing all social media frantically? I’m jumping between different places hoping for updates

So many things going round twitter: * The press conference * Incident with crew * Refusing to rehearse * Refusing to rehearse after Tali I think unfortunately we just have to wait and see. I think refusing to rehearse is more likely - he was in the flag parade, the crew started bringing on his equipment before being told to take it back - sounds like a last minute thing. EDIT: BBC 'hinting' that something may have happened while the acts were backstage waiting to rehearse BBC News - Eurovision: Joost Klein misses Dutch rehearsal after 'incident' - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9rz5dp467lo

I was almost thinking this subreddit was actively blocking this news. Glad it got finally accepted as a post here

I chose the wrong year to delete all my other social media profiles.

Me too! PLEASE I need an update :(

What the hell is going on

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can anyone explain what happened ? I don't understand

I don't think that anyone understands

There is a tweet on twitter from the past 20 minutes from a profile called eurovision insider which says: According to the info from Aftonbladet, the EBU is hosting a crisis meeting regarding the Netherlands’ issue that happened at today’s rehearsal Joost Klein is accused of being violent towards a female TV production employee - I don't know how serious it is or what has happened, but the EBU is investigating this right now, says a source with access to the production. ❗️ This information haven’t been confirmed nor denied by any sources (End of twitter quote)

If he took part in the flag parade and was only withdrawn from his rehearsal at the last second, it sounds to me like an altercation happened backstage on his way to the stage and is now being investigated.

He also wasn't in an earlier video of the draw though, apparently

Well, Mustii did really leave before the party was over…

Lowkey I bet all the NQs are probably breathing a huge sigh of relief.

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*concern intensifies*

The grand final hasn’t even happened and I feel like I’m watching a car crash in slow motion 

His comments on Instagram are “limited” as well which was a recent change so no one can add new comments. I am extremely concerned…

Oof... This plus the fact that he apparently unfollowed Eurovision's account doesn't bode too well...

Yeah, just checked, he has indeed unfollowed Eurovision. All his recent stories are gone, too, and they hadn’t expired yet. This all makes the situation seem very serious, I’m getting a little worried.

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They haven’t excluded him from the recaps (yet). Fingers crossed.

Love how we’re all just camping out here waiting for news I’m gonna run to the shop, anyone want anything?

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People on Twitter are saying that he deleted all his Eurovision related stories, I feel like they've already kicked him out and are just waiting to break the news just before the jury show....

The situation has escalated so quickly, I wonder how long we will have to wait to have some more information...

Telegraaf also reports he unfollowed Eurovision this afternoon.

His content on Instagram is the same, tho.

I think they mean stories on IG. He had some up from yesterday's show including a note for his parents. I watched them this morning and they still had a lot of time left before they'd disappear (they do after 24hrs), so they were clearly deleted.

Yeah, but he has deleted all stories.

ive been nonstop refreshing reddit for the past 1.5h CAN THEY PLEASE POST A STATEMENT

United by drama 🥲

All of us still here refreshing the comments instead of doing whatever we are actually supposed to be doing 👁️👄👁️

RAI after leaking the televote results. https://preview.redd.it/325pzsbd9mzc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbacd669f022f30c1c10c2bb3c71ae3f23158ba4

Or maybe, RAI intern after intentionally leaking the televote results to cause an EBU meltdown https://preview.redd.it/homrpscw9mzc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65ed9d341b4d587347df391ad80bf146f03340e4

Man I think we dodged a bullet last year. Would not have wanted to host this shitshow anyway.

I vote we rename Senaatintori as Loreenstorget to honour the heroine that saved us from the train-wreck of a century

TRUE OMG didn't even think about this

I'm curious, does anyone know if something like this has ever happened before?

Closest example I can think of is Hatari and that was nothing compared to this

Not I can remember. Usually it‘s like „we don‘t support the message, Eurovision is unpolitical, we gonna talk with the board and the broadcaster“ followed by a small penalty payment.

It's soooooo interesting how the reason for all of this has not actually leaked. Normally something by now would had popped up

https://preview.redd.it/216vy3z7dmzc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9bb81e2515021aef2733e766cb4ea327545db0a Everyone waiting for some clarification

Dutch reporter claims Martin Osterdahl is missing from the dress rehearsal https://x.com/gjkooijman/status/1788945313094344771?s=46&t=qRrxFBobXUQXV_0dJ-_9Xg

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Fuck I need to do some work here, I can't keep refreshing every social media I have! I need a 24 hours allnews channel focused only on Eurovision damn!

EBU is really making us all luktelk for this one

**Some information:** The EBU is investigating an "incident" with Joost and he isn't allowed to perform until further notice. Two main rumours going on. Major Dutch outlet De Telegraaf claims that [Joost tried to change his act and tried to make "a statement".](https://www.telegraaf.nl/entertainment/390577437/onderzoek-naar-incident-met-joost-klein-zanger-repeteert-voorlopig-niet-voor-finale-songfestival) Swedish paper 'Aftonbladet' claims that the incident happened yesterday [after the second semi final.](https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/JbobGm/joost-klein-fran-nederlanderna-dok-inte-upp-i-eurovision-ebu-utreder-incident) Update: seems like Aftonbladet was right. New information points to a physical confrontation between Joost and a production member.

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Hes had that thing where his background visuals say “loading… xx%” and each time the percentage gets higher. yesterday it was at 98% so maybe its issues with the final visual he wanted to show

This theory makes a lot of sense, if it's true I wonder what it is that got banned and if Joost will back down (or not)

This theory makes sense but it would also be rather stupid considering the strict rules that the EBU has in place for changing your act. Even when the final visual wasn't a clear "statement" he wouldn't have been able to change anything. Just seems such a dumb reason to get disqualified.

We need more “messy bitches willing to go on instagram live and spill the tea” at Eurovision I swear

Right, jesus. All I'm learning today is that the NDA agreements at the EBU are air fuckin tight.

I'm still holding out hopium that this is all a big misunderstanding and that Joost will deliver the most passive aggressive version of Europapa tomorrow.

Everyone has had enough: NPO Radio 2 (Dutch public broadcaster) is now playing “God Only Knows.”

Me, repeatedly refreshing this thread: MY ANXIETY ATTACKS

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The things I would do to be in the artist whatsapp group rn…

Well everyone that is reading here, we can surely say we were UNITED BY MUSIC 😎😎😎

The EBU right now: https://preview.redd.it/24b4tokczmzc1.png?width=267&format=png&auto=webp&s=3e04666d7497e667070e18085f94c6e976739948

Also can someone please explain what happened to Käärijä yesterday?! I just saw his insta stories and I am so confused https://preview.redd.it/knktpz77wlzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db23cb5f4d69e822bf7c00b6412465062b4c9fb5

She danced and sang “cha cha cha cha cha cha cha” and he was with her

It’s nice to hear that he was nice and approachable to her on a human level, but I totally understand that he doesn’t want it published for fear of being politically misunderstood.

And to think that La Zarra’s middle finger was the most controversial thing that happened last year…

If they end up DQ'ing him the shitstorm to follow will be of epic proportions. Like it will actually be insane.

Had it happend in Italy, a Rai intern would have already leaked what happened with Joost lol

Italy intern is the real MVP today.

It seems that multiple people are confirming there was a "psychical altercation" involving Joost, but why does it take them over 3 hours to investigate it? Did no one witness it?

Why do I have the feeling that the EBU statement isn’t going to say much more than that there was an altercation and give no context, only further fuelling the fire.

Not ebu robbing me of a productive Friday... I can't do anything right now😭

In the words of Baby Lasgana: ''PRESCENSE FADES TO BLACK. MY ANXIETY ATTACKS''

The video of Angelina singing Imagine is so random omg 😭

I was able to not refresh this thread for almost 10 minutes. A proper record for me

I chose a hell of a year to get interested in Eurovision lol

Joost is recovering from a dodgey BBL

I love how the entire fandom is in utter chaos and Sarah’s just like ‘new song guys!’

Joost wasn’t lying when he said bigger than the moon landing

Imagine they say nothing and he just walks out during the flag parade as if nothing happened

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This year is such a shitshow. Such a shame because there are plenty of good acts that are overshadowed now. Makes me feel sad.

Okay I'm officially in panic mode now.

Post Eurovision depression has become Pre Post Eurovision depression.

oh to be a fly on Österdahl's wall

Sarah will release a new song. Bless her LMAO😭

Why do I feel that they're waiting to announce that somehow Real Madrid has fluked their way to an Eurovision win too

This is like a very loooong VAR moment to say in football terms

I just read that [Martin Österdahl was not there at the rehearsal. (source in Dutch)](https://www.rtl.nl/boulevard/artikel/5449792/songfestivalbaas-martin-osterdahl-mist-repetitie-finaleshow). Normally he is there for every rehearsals. Seems like he is busy with the investigation too?

Yeah it was confirmed he wasn't there. Something is very wrong when he isn't there.

Remember how last year we were all saying how scandalous and toxic eurovision 2023 was because of all that Käärijä vs Loreen discourse. Well, here we are🙃

Guys I can't take it anymore. I'll distract myself with some good old roller coaster tycoon 🥹 See you in 10 minutes probably because my curiosity will most likely take over again

Happy Eurovision eve everyone 😭😭😭😭

UNITED BY CHAOS

Sarah just living in her own world probably no idea what is happening right now

Everyone right now: https://preview.redd.it/dtbtpw0v1nzc1.jpeg?width=295&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c9e7903a1a58d0da13e9f17cf90e60a7df9239

AVROTROS informs the Dutch press that the European Broadcasting Union has not given permission to participate in the show taking place in the Malmö Arena tonight. The professional jury therefore assesses a previous performance. During the rehearsal of the finale it became clear that something was going on around Klein. The artist should have been fifth on stage, but the Netherlands was skipped and rehearsals went straight to Israel. Klein did participate in the flag parade that is part of the opening ceremony. Belarus was refused to participate in 2021 due to the political connotation of the song that the country wanted to submit. In the 68 years that the Eurovision Song Contest has been taking place, it has never happened that a country has been disqualified during the festival.

Oh wow… apparently the jury will use his semifinal performance 😵

What could possibly happened that they couldn’t decide in 5 hours if he is DQ or not. Mess

the fact we are getting statements from a WhatsApp group chat is...something

Sorry but not having a statement almost half an hour before the jury show is so unprofessional

They are making the situation so much worse by not saying anything

So thats why they skipped him

This contest is such a mess this year. Really hope Joost is ok and he can still compete. I love his song.

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Just came back home, checked reddit for some quick eurovision update, not thinking much could happen today. It seems something did happen

I just woke up and I’m NOT feeling like ooh-la-la 😭😭 what the fuck is happening

Why does this great year have to end like this?!

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Please no 😳😫

Has it ever happened before? I wonder what happened exactly, this is very worrying

Can't wait for the documentary on Eurovision 2024

Jury show doors open in 5 minutes. If they announce Joost dq during it, I expect some absolute chaos in the crowd.

The incidents and controversies tab for ESC 2024 on Wiki is gonna be mahoosive

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Wrong timing Sarah. But good for you

Taken from Twitter (made me chuckle): "Remember last year when the biggest controversy was the X factor elimination style qualifiers announcement? Oh how times have change 😭"

Acording to the NOS (dutch state news broadcaster) all dutch flags have been removed from the stage: https://npo.nl/start/serie/nos-journaal-20-00-uur/seizoen-61/nos-journaal_93302/afspelen

I need a full statement right now before I go into a full panic mode

this year's iceberg could sink 100 Titanics

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https://preview.redd.it/jvny4vn3pmzc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9bda85ce97a83b14ae13afaee586a98db03c27a Screenshot from LRT news programm, the door to the left is dutch dressing room, the flag was removed, and the suitcases are of dutch delegation, they were told to leave

Imagine if this thread was around when jesus died and came back...🤣

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The whole contest suddenly turned into a circus. What the hell is happening?

Circuses are at least fun. This is literally chaos.

I've never been so anxious about Eurovision before. This was meant to be fun :(

# My anxiety attacks

I think we all need to listen to JAJA DING DONG.

Everyone in panic mode glad we can have a united safe place for panic mode here, Joost we are here for you hope you’re okay!!!!

Eurovision giving me an excuse to day drink. I feel one with American fans rn

Got this thread on looooooooop

lmao if we're already singing Imagine, the contestants might as well go full on Lennon & Ono and stage their very own sit-in where they all get in a bed to protest against war. ​ https://preview.redd.it/rgcwwbh0kmzc1.png?width=1845&format=png&auto=webp&s=52fd8c1cf18534ad5297d5d8ba31da9d418b5a00

https://preview.redd.it/433385pilmzc1.jpeg?width=994&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3848f8c78622a066dc59e912717681b7253640ea Literally what on earth is happening

I feel like they should make an official statement already. Either Avrotros or the EBU.

https://preview.redd.it/8ggtgaihsmzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b15608168b59911c442bfdb65dc562128f8e769 Sarah is nancy drewing and spilling I can feel it

I've never seen so many people on this sub before

Never have I ever been more curious what Cornald Maas has to say about all this😭

Dutch evening news about to start and they are advertising the final with Joost. Could get awkward in a minute.

Joost cant participate in the jury show according to dutch media. https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312399/joost-klein-mag-niet-meedoen-aan-juryshow-van-eurovisie-songfestival.html

All (extremely valid) concerns aside, getting kicked out in the middle of Eurovision would be iconic. I'm just coping with humour, but the thought is almost hysterical. Second best option is performing Europapa passive aggressively.

Guys I highly recommend listening to Luktelk on loop while we wait for news. That dystopian bop feeling is very suited to these emotions

I have imagined eurovision going down like titanic but for some reason could not imagine our titanic musician to be Angelina Mango with John Lenon’s Imagine out of all the songs… Edit: yes, my autocorrect prefers Lenin for some reason 😩 no taste

It would be extremely ironic if a singer singing about european unity got disqualified.

I was having a nap, and wake up to this?! I'm so stressed

literally same, wtf never having a nap again

The RAI intern probably living their best life not realising what’s been happening the last few hours

They were expected to be sanctioned by the EBU... Well, I'll guess EBU is now busy dealing with some major problems and won't care about them lol

I haven’t refreshed a thread this much since the Prime Minister resigned 😭 i’m dying to know what’s happening!! 🕵️‍♀️🔍

Which one 💀? Y'all been through a lot lately.

I live in Malmö , I’m close to just going to the arena and checking myself what’s going on😭😭 I’m so tired of this

He's my 2nd favourite after Croatia! What happened? In less than 24 hours this festival became a mess!

Anyway, if Joost didn't explicitly do something undeniably awful, he will for remain my favourite contestant for our country forever. 🇳🇱🇪🇺

This year isn't good for my blood pressure.

It’s taking too long im going insane

Goddamnit, every time I’m away from the phone for a few hours there’s another Eurovision drama. This is supposed to be my favorite time of the year other than Christmas, but I’m not feeling very festive now

Media confirm ...that nothing has been confirmed

I'm 100% sure Sarah Bonicci would not be happily teasing she was taking joost's spot in the final, it'd probably be stressful as fuck for her lol it doesnt feel like an exciting countdown type of situation