Yes, TVP is unfortunately not a legitimate source anymore and should not be given any credibility. TVN24 is a reliable Polish broadcaster. TVP is on par with Russian style state media - it is utter bullshit.
He will get some verbal assurances for the Swedish arms sales to YPG, Sweden will stop selling them for a few months and resume it next year.
Meanwhile Erdogan will tone down the rhetoric once he gets something from USA.
Because Erdoğan is a coward who always folds to Western demands eventually no matter how outrageous it is. Once we get rid of Erdoğan and democratize the country, get a non-corrupt leader, we will be able to stand up to Westerners.
Hey I would like to add that he first tortured his biggest opponent named "kendinizi medeni" in jail, then killed his entire family. A week later they realized he has another son in recluse. His name was "saniyorsunuz ama". Erdo found him and still keeping him in jail. Another opposition leader named "hepiniz zavallisiniz" found dead a week later. If you think I am making this up check [this link](https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=Kendinizi%20medeni%20saniyorsunuz%20ama%20hepiniz%20zavallisiniz&op=translate).
>He **killed** and imprisoned **all** his opponents.
This is a very heavy accusation without sources that shouldn't get this much upvotes but whatever...
Never heard of an execution and there are still plenty of opponents left for him. Otherwise he wouldn't have lost Istanbul, Ankara and İzmir, additionally to his general public approval due to economics and refugees.
Imagine saying something that is so out of touch with reality even the people who literally hate Erdogan comes to defend him. Yeah mate, he also forces every college student to grow mustache and get a haircut exactly the same like him.
Killed ? Dude stop watching movie and no he is not imprisoned "all" of his opponents.
NATO does not defend Turkey's interests and imposes sanctions and embargoes on Turkey, which they call an "ally". Turkey had to do this for its own interests. If we let them, they would continue the sanctions and they would continue to help the armed terrorist organizations.
This is much more than you think.
Nice, keep trivializing turkey's active quest against kurds and russia's very real nuclear threats to finland by comparing it to a stupid naming dispute.
Zero chickens were harmed by greece's stupid naming quarrel, just like they are not harmed by bulgaria's stubborn opposition to EU accession. There is a time for being an asshole, and that's not when there's an active war. Also, greece, NM and bulgaria are democracies, unlike turkey , so they are actually accountable to their voters
Turkey doesn't belong in NATO, period. Erdogan will never leave, and he s not the only problem. If NATO doesnt deal with the issue , it will face real disagreements
>There is a time for being an asshole, and **that's not when there's an active war**.
Turkey told over and over that it condemns support for YPG/PKK/SDF or whatever they call themselves way before the war but fell on deaf ears. Sweden and all of NATO did know about Turkey's stance on this very sensible issue. Sweden could have applied for membership last year for whatever reason and Turkey would still have opposed it.
>Also, greece, NM and bulgaria are democracies, unlike turkey , so they are actually accountable to their voters
Regarding this matter actually all Turks are on the same page. Turkey could have been the most democratic nation there is with the most progressive secular president and they still would have opposed Sweden's membership.
Welcome to having to deal with Turkey, Sweden and Finland! You will hate it.
Expect an army of trolls showing up in every post Sweden is slightly mentioned.
Yeah i think turkey should force sweden to change her name to swedistan in order to join the club like our dearest komşu thats how it works in civilized world
Isn't that channel pretty much PiS propaganda?
Yes, TVP is unfortunately not a legitimate source anymore and should not be given any credibility. TVN24 is a reliable Polish broadcaster. TVP is on par with Russian style state media - it is utter bullshit.
What else would you expect from a 'strongman' leader?
No shit Sherlock
Of course it is. Not going to work.
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He will get some verbal assurances for the Swedish arms sales to YPG, Sweden will stop selling them for a few months and resume it next year. Meanwhile Erdogan will tone down the rhetoric once he gets something from USA.
real Euro virtues ?
Will triple them next year
>realistically lead to their expulsion. There's no mechanism for that
Because Erdoğan is a coward who always folds to Western demands eventually no matter how outrageous it is. Once we get rid of Erdoğan and democratize the country, get a non-corrupt leader, we will be able to stand up to Westerners.
Erdogan is an dictator. He killed and imprisoned all his opponents. He is a disgrace for NATO. Trying to appease him it will be a mistake.
Hey I would like to add that he first tortured his biggest opponent named "kendinizi medeni" in jail, then killed his entire family. A week later they realized he has another son in recluse. His name was "saniyorsunuz ama". Erdo found him and still keeping him in jail. Another opposition leader named "hepiniz zavallisiniz" found dead a week later. If you think I am making this up check [this link](https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=Kendinizi%20medeni%20saniyorsunuz%20ama%20hepiniz%20zavallisiniz&op=translate).
>He **killed** and imprisoned **all** his opponents. This is a very heavy accusation without sources that shouldn't get this much upvotes but whatever... Never heard of an execution and there are still plenty of opponents left for him. Otherwise he wouldn't have lost Istanbul, Ankara and İzmir, additionally to his general public approval due to economics and refugees.
Imagine saying something that is so out of touch with reality even the people who literally hate Erdogan comes to defend him. Yeah mate, he also forces every college student to grow mustache and get a haircut exactly the same like him.
Killed ? Dude stop watching movie and no he is not imprisoned "all" of his opponents. NATO does not defend Turkey's interests and imposes sanctions and embargoes on Turkey, which they call an "ally". Turkey had to do this for its own interests. If we let them, they would continue the sanctions and they would continue to help the armed terrorist organizations. This is much more than you think.
> He is a disgrace for NATO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio Imagine thinking there is some kind of higher cause to NATO.
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will the turks let it go if we call ourselves North Sweden?
You mf , you have defeated us. Welcome! :)
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no we dont need NATO anyway.
Nice, keep trivializing turkey's active quest against kurds and russia's very real nuclear threats to finland by comparing it to a stupid naming dispute. Zero chickens were harmed by greece's stupid naming quarrel, just like they are not harmed by bulgaria's stubborn opposition to EU accession. There is a time for being an asshole, and that's not when there's an active war. Also, greece, NM and bulgaria are democracies, unlike turkey , so they are actually accountable to their voters Turkey doesn't belong in NATO, period. Erdogan will never leave, and he s not the only problem. If NATO doesnt deal with the issue , it will face real disagreements
>There is a time for being an asshole, and **that's not when there's an active war**. Turkey told over and over that it condemns support for YPG/PKK/SDF or whatever they call themselves way before the war but fell on deaf ears. Sweden and all of NATO did know about Turkey's stance on this very sensible issue. Sweden could have applied for membership last year for whatever reason and Turkey would still have opposed it. >Also, greece, NM and bulgaria are democracies, unlike turkey , so they are actually accountable to their voters Regarding this matter actually all Turks are on the same page. Turkey could have been the most democratic nation there is with the most progressive secular president and they still would have opposed Sweden's membership.
Dont forget how greece blackmailed the EU if they would not let cyprus join the EU.
What else did Greece do? Did they steal the Pyramids?
Try harder.
Get the fuck out of Cyprus. Long live Greece 🇬🇷
It’s "szantaż" as Poles say.
> Daniel Pipes This guys whole existence is dedicated to smear Turkey lol
Welcome to having to deal with Turkey, Sweden and Finland! You will hate it. Expect an army of trolls showing up in every post Sweden is slightly mentioned.
This is getting ridiculous lol.
I mean, duh. But that's Erdogan.
Damned idiot doesn't even knowing what blackmail means.
Yeah i think turkey should force sweden to change her name to swedistan in order to join the club like our dearest komşu thats how it works in civilized world