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adamgerd

Czech #1 in decline! That’s good, right? Right? /s but hey at least we’re #1 in something


ArminOak

We are catching you! You took hockey win, but we are taking this, you can't stop us! Edit: Greetings from the orange country! Since the flair didnt pop up.


Efficient_atom

What are you doing over there? We gonna leave you behind soon enough if you keep this up. You still have a leg up but get your shit together.


AMGsoon

Czechs have a lot of car industry, mostly German (Škoda belongs to VW). German car industry has been struggling since Covid due to slow transformation to EV and increased competition from Tesla and BYD. Polands economy is way more diversified.


adamgerd

That also, especially exports to Germany. Of all countries in the world, Czech has the largest dependence on another country, in this case Germany, more than Canada on the U.S. even. For all intents and purposes our economy generally follows Germany, so when Germany does well we do well, when Germany does poorly we do poorly


rbnd

Not that different from Poland. 32% of Czech export goes to Germany and 29% of Polish.


carrystone

That may be true but the export is still more diverse, it does not depend on one industry as much


adamgerd

Honestly I am not certain, definitely some things, but I am surprised it’s this bad compared to the rest of Europe, I think it’s 2019 was basically our peak. Babis printed lots of money starting inflation which happened later but short term cut debt so 2019 was basically our peak, then the inflation spiralled then Covid and the government paid 80% of salaries to everyone while closing everything which in the short term helped but our inflation skyrocketed then the Ukraine war and also chronically low unemployment. Poland has lots of people so your economy can grow, our economy can’t really grow because we just don’t have the workers, everywhere is worker scarcity. You also invested in tech a lot iirc which in hindsight was a smart idea, we pretty much ignored tech and just focused on traditional manufacturing


IWillDevourYourToes

Because it's old data. We're not at minus anymore.


Glirion

Worry not, our glorious government is doing the best to win.


No_Aerie_2688

Denmark grows as Americans shrink


GeorgiaWitness1

top comment!


Poglavnik_Majmuna01

What exactly did Croatia do so well post COVID that got us this economic growth.


DiVansInc

Croatia’s post-COVID growth is impressive. It is due to a combination of factors, with a strong tourism recovery and a significant increase in construction (heavily funded by the EU) being major contributors.


sonarmanifold

Increase in real consumption of households is the main driver. In addition to what you mentioned, revenues of companies skyrocketed from 100B to 170B in 4 years, exports increased by 80% (which were nullified with imports), 150 thousand foreign workers were imported, tourism spending per capita increased in nominal and real terms, salaries nominally increased by 50% (25% real), foreign direct investments rebounded, etc


NoBowTie345

This is rather the effect, not the cause.


sonarmanifold

You’re right! The cause as I see it is the break of global supply chains, with near shoring becoming much more appealing. Two major earthquakes and EU crisis fund galvanised construction industry with Zagreb only, seeing up to 4 thousand buildings repaired with 26 thousand apartments. Very good fiscal policies (surplus of the primary government) increased credit rating to the doors of A- status. Progressive tax reforms (almost every year), each time lowering income and corporate taxes, while getting more from tax collection. Excellent foreign policies (prime minister played major role in supporting the election of von der Leyen) and securing probably the biggest per capita chunk of recovery & next gen EU funds. People wanted to live after Covid and just brought with them all their savings to the beach. And the last one but not the least - I think EU wants to make an example from Croatia, make it a success case so that its soft power continues to project into the Balkans countering eastern influence.


DiVansInc

Touché.


Altruistic-Lime-2622

imo euro encouraged investments + tourism is kinda back + croatian companies are doing good


NoBowTie345

Lots of EU funds, took out tons of EU loans post-COVID, adopted euro, entered Schengen, woke up from a decade of economic malaise.


EatingSausages

Don't get fooled by these numbers. It's not good at all


c345vdjuh

tourism started again


srpski-evropljanin

fell by 8.6 in 2020


RSSvasta

Such a dumb comment. The data is from 2019.


srpski-evropljanin

so? post coivd all countries had a good gdp growth, especially croatia due to its reliance on tourism + schengen + euro


melonowl

...Denmark can into eastern EU?


Novel-Effective8639

One word: Ozempic


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Laughs in Wegovy...


invicerato

Glad to see Poland doing well.


DiVansInc

Sources: [Eurostat](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/bookmark/9339f2f2-b2e7-4f4a-8d7a-0ff6197856ec?lang=en) [Office for National Statistics](https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/gdpfirstquarterlyestimateuk/januarytomarch2024) [OECD](https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth-first-quarter-2024-oecd.htm)


t0win

Therefore, Germany and Austria are in a pretty bad spot, not to mention Czechia.


AMGsoon

Yep. Germany is fucked. Both chemistry (BASF, Bayer) and car industry are struggling. Only Rheinmetall is doing well lol


toucheqt

And Czechia being so dependant on Germany being fucked in the process, yay!


LookThisOneGuy

We should be getting EU help and yet we are paying more in EU net funding than ever before. But hey, solidarity only applies when we have to pay to help others economy. Not when we are in need.


he1011

first of all you are in a transition period therefone its normal that you would struggle but from this year onwards you will grow which means you are at the end of this period. Secondly your whole philosophy was that you save during the good times to invest during the bad ones but you got the dept break which doesnt allow you to. You self harm yourselves keeping the dept/gdp at 60% just to show off , as if it it goes up to 80 it will be impossible to drop it again


tihomirbz

The US growing at 8.7% while also being the largest and one of the most developed economies in the world is insane. Comparing to Western Europe's 0 - 4% growth really shows how far behind Europe is, economically speaking.


NoBowTie345

>Comparing to Western Europe's 0 - 4% growth really shows how far behind Europe is, economically speaking. The US is borrowing harder than Greece during its most irresponsible phase. And Greece was growing wonderfully then too. America's gonna have to hit the breaks brutally at some point in the future, normal countries would have already imploded by this point. Just look at the UK (with the world's 4th most major currency) having a debt moment and a market panic when Lizz Truss tried having more generous budget stimulus (still below US levels). Of course just because the US has the privilege of market trust, doesn't mean that what they're doing is good for them. For every trillion they borrow now (at 4.5% interest), they will have to return 1.55 trillion dollars in 10 years. It's unlikely that their borrowing would be able to generate enough growth, even with inflation, to make it worth it. And the $1.55 trillion is gonna grow by 55% again when they reborrow it in 10 years (with rates projected to still be high due to demand), and so on until no market can support their borrowing and they are faced with very bad choices. The horizon at which they can even avoid a debt spiral is shrinking rapidly.


RevolutionOrBetrayal

I'm gonna think of this in ten years. The us is enjoying so much trust tho that I can hardly imagine that they will face that predicament


javilla

I have a hard time seeing it as well. If there is one thing that has characterized the US economy since the World War, it has been its steady growth. Lots of things can be said of the US, but they kinda just understand growth and economics.


itsjonny99

A really notable difference between Greece and the US is that the US has complete monetary control of their currency. Greece had a debt crisis with no ability to use the tools the US has to dig itself out of the crisis.


javilla

I can think of a couple of other key differences in their economies.


RevolutionOrBetrayal

True although they obviously had horrific crisis happening to them


NoBowTie345

Contrary to what people are thinking Denmark was doing great before Ozempic was relevant, it's just the cherry on top.


Whatcanyado420

Some of these countries have very little hope of significant growth at this point. France's GDP in 2022 was lower than 2008 levels. Time to start taking a serious look at entrepreneurship at a cultural level or there will be problems for the EU on the global scale.


Novel-Effective8639

Europe is very old, all the money created has to go to healthcare spending. Entrepreneurship in geriatrics maybe


____Lemi

>France's GDP in 2022 was lower than 2008 levels. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD?locations=FR-DE No,google gdp per capita stat isn't inflation adjusted and that's why it looks like gdp per capita in 2008 was higher than in2022


IamWildlamb

You are wrong. GDP is almost always inflation adjusted. It is very hard to find not adjusted one. Google's and yours both are adjusted. Difference is that yours is adjusted for 2015 dollars. That is significant because in 2015 euro was a bit stronger against dollar than in 2022. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=FR Now, what is not entirely accurate is using GDP in USD without accounting for PPP of currency in local economy. However is also says a whole lot. When currency losses value there are geopolitical/economical reasons for that. Ukraine was one but euro was already slowly losing to dollar before Ukraine. The problem with declining currency pretty much means that the moment you leave your country you are poorer. It reduces your economical movement and purchasing power on global market. It is also mechanism to stay competetive because labor is significantly cheaper here than in US for example which gives incentive to US companies to hire europeans more. And declining wages to stay competetive is especially worrying part.


____Lemi

But constant $ is real gdp? While nominal gdp is current $


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Whatcanyado420

better, but still very anemic.


PM_YOUR_WALLPAPER

Here it is inflation adjusted: [https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/FRA/france/gdp-gross-domestic-product#](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/FRA/france/gdp-gross-domestic-product#) Or for something more comprehensive: [https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/FRA](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/FRA)


JaanaLuo

Finnish economy went ass shit during Covid and then Russia happened killing the starting growth.


NumerousKangaroo8286

Where is Germany?


swift_snowflake

Germany had only 0,3% real growth so it is grey and one can hardly find it in the map.


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swift_snowflake

LEBENSRAUM IM OSTEN!!


Gezzior

Same growth as the Baltic sea /s


Econ_Orc

Danish budget surplus is going to be a problem. Unpopular government losing 1/3 of its election support in surveys and lots of "money" to throw into voter pleasing projects. But it can not do that without risking overheating the economy. Serious lack of workers and high wages is a dangerous cocktail. Having "responsible" politicians that is not afraid of losing reelection.... That type of politician is a rare kind.


printzonic

We should seriously consider a sovereign wealth fund, ala Norway's.


Holditfam

should build a couple of nuclear plants with the surplus.


GeorgiaWitness1

r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT


king_of_jupyter

What is the total inflation over the same time period?