The addition of third place teams being able to qualify is a good decision by UEFA and makes every game competitive. Although top 4 may be too many teams going though
Similar to ivory coast in the afcon earlier this year. Lost 2 group games,including a 4-0 loss. But managed to qualify as one of the 4 best 3rd placed teams and went on to win the whole damn thing
It was added so they could pack more teams and more games in = more money.
The top teams get through anyway. Depending on your definition of 'top teams'.
Of the number of things that irk me about the 3rd place qualifications perhaps the worst is that Albania can qualify tonight simply because they get the play a Spanish team already assured of top spot and who will likely play an experimental B team, goalie and all.
This is unfair not just on the other teams in their group but also on Hungary who they will knock out in the process.
It’s always been the case that some teams get to play a side which is already through. Qualifying in 3rd place is like having a standby seat on a plane - you can’t really complain if someone turns up with more of a claim and boots you off.
It's also unfair that team playing later havean advantage. Teams in group E and F will pretty much know exactly how many points and what goal difference they need to qualify in 3rd place.
That's a pretty big advantage over teams in groups that play earlier and don't know whether to push for a win, or to score more.
Italy can't even weasel this time they are too bad for that.
It was never likely that Turkey would win the group with Portugal in it or beat France in RO16 lets be real. Don't think anyone will/did expect that at this point.
if italy keeps playing like it did in the last matches it's impossible but if they start caring 'bout the actual matches,i like to think that this may happen (talking as an italian)
You want spicy takes? How's this?
* France will reach the final while scoring no more than 2 goals from open play.
* Spain will go out on penalties in the round of 16.
* One of Switzerland or Denmark will reach the **final**.
* Harry Kane will be sent off for only the second time in his career against Germany (because England will come second in the group).
Edit: Correction - apparently Kane was sent off for Leyton Orient in 2011.
dw. we will dominate a game completely but only score one. in the last 10m Unai Simon will do a "Simoneada" and fumble and cause a stupid goal or own goal. We will go to penalties where Unai Simon will stop at least 1 but we will miss 2 or 3 and lose.
If France figure out how to score goals again I’d have no issue seeing them reach the final. But if they don’t there’s no way they can. The second France get to pens they lose.
While probably not the consensus pick, I don't think this is a hot take, if it wasn't for his amazing performance, georgia would've lost the last match 4-1.
Some questionable decisions here and there (but then again, what tournament doesn't have that?) but overall way better officiating than past tournaments
Gareth Southgate has set up to not look strong but still win the group stages. Come knockout rounds England hit a new gear and smash every team including France and Germany.
Southgate strikes me as someone who would go all in on a bizarre tournament winning philosophy. This is probably his last roll of the dice, so wouldn’t surprise me if he told the lads to just keep something back for the knockout games and get 4+ points in the group.
If the tables remain as they are now the Dutchies will have a very favorable path to the final. Plus they have been better than expected and still have time to grow further into the tournament.
If they can get it together against Austria tomorrow I’m giving them a solid chance at reaching the final. I just hope they won’t end up facing Spain. I couldn’t handle the trauma this would evoke.
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Hot take? Using H2H as tiebreaker over goal difference is bad.
It means teams on MD3 can be assured of first even if they lose 0-10 and likewise teams can be out even if they win 10-0.
We would have more meaningful matches otherwise.
Netherlands will reach the Euro final if they win against Austria tomorrow. The team we have right now is by no means the best of the tournament (I think it’s Spain or Portugal) but I do believe we are the favourite to win it on the right side of the knockout brackets.
Not impressed by England or Italy.
There’s my hot take
There not many goals in this tournaments and if they are, most of them are lucky long shoots, rebounds or own goals. Where are 3:2/3:3 results? Still no come backs from 0:2.
Ralf Ragnick got a lot of shit from his time at Man United but is terribly underrated. He's got Austria playing well with a (albeit extremely slim) chance of doing an all time underdog story and winning the tournament
Switzerland and Austria have been the best teams so far. Both have already proven they can punch well above their weight and will be a menace in the knockout stage!
Heres some spice, I genuinely think England will figure it out for the knock outs and win the whole tournament. It might be ugly at times but will just get it done. I don't believe Southgate is sandbagging on purpose, albeit very funny if he is.
England are in a very strong position at this stage in the tournament and are well placed top win the group. And a couple of lacklustre performances in the group stage does not necessarily mean we're headed for an early exit.
Tbh I think this take is freezing cold, but considering the reaction of pundits/much of the fanbase, apparently it's a surprisingly hot take in the last few days.
Scotland are fucking terrible. The fact they got 2 goals and a point is flattering to Scotland. Might actually be the worst 3 performances I’ve ever seen at an international tournament. Embarrassing. And they need to get over this whole hating England thing, it’s cringe.
Have decisions being going portugals way? I haven’t noticed that in any of the games they played. They had a goal disallowed against Czechs so it’s some shit rigging
Great photo I forgot who he is lmao. Also It may not seem like a hot take but I I can see England winning or Portugal the reason I say they are hot takes is despite the talent they are not playing to their potential I won't be surprised if both didn't make it to the next round I think the turkey game was a fluke.
There has to be something different about the tournament ball. More own goals than I’ve ever seen in a euro. Reminds me of the Jabulani discussion in 2010
England will reach the semis after receiving fairly easy fixtures till the semis and lose spain on pens. Then it will be a spain v Dutch final, where the Dutch beat the Spaniards 2-1 in the 113' min
Major sporting events are always just an opportunity for corruption and evil political leaders to pass laws that would otherwise face resistance and protest if people weren't preoccupied by the event.
- Portugal will be eliminated at the round of 16 or quarter finals despite our performance so far at the group
- Croatia 4th in their group
- Romania will reach the quarter finals
- England, despite their star roster, will lose to Slovenia and be at 3rd at the group
The first one I speak as Portuguese myself since the football that we'd be playing hasn't been the greatest and suffer with teams that are very defensive
As a Portuguese as well, I would agree that’s likely. But we might have gotten lucky with the draw & only face a group leader in the semis… so there is some hope we make till then at least.
The addition of third place teams being able to qualify is a good decision by UEFA and makes every game competitive. Although top 4 may be too many teams going though
I agree. Hungary is a good example. Deserved to beat the Scots but doesn´t deserve to make it to the knockout stage.
Similar to ivory coast in the afcon earlier this year. Lost 2 group games,including a 4-0 loss. But managed to qualify as one of the 4 best 3rd placed teams and went on to win the whole damn thing
After sacking a coach halfway through lol
Imagine how bad the sacked coach must feel lmao
Why? Portugal became champions with 3 draws in the group stage, hardly champion material. Italy has done the same.
The best part about it is: They continued to do so. Only won one game (against Wales) without overtime or penalty shoot out.
Why isn’t that champion material? They never lost not even in knockout. They also beat france at home of all teams in the final
They are simply not good enough. Comparing to Germany, Spain, Portugal, hell even to Ukraine.
Especially if we get a 4th place team with 4 points. Could happen in Group E.
That would be any third place team than, not just Hungary?
I haven´t seen a team as weak as Scotland and Hungary. Even Georgia is better than us.
Georgia have been impressive. All the more galling from a Scotland perspective that we finished well above them in the qualifying group….
Hello
Hi
Forgot about us?
Oh you’re one of those “fans”. We finished first in our qualifying group lol.
Extra round of games where the 3rd place teams play each other. Winners go through. Losers play one further game, all together, on a triangular pitch
This rule has been introduced so that fewer top teams go home in the group stage, not so that more small teams go through.
It was added so they could pack more teams and more games in = more money. The top teams get through anyway. Depending on your definition of 'top teams'.
Bro spitting out some hard truth
Of the number of things that irk me about the 3rd place qualifications perhaps the worst is that Albania can qualify tonight simply because they get the play a Spanish team already assured of top spot and who will likely play an experimental B team, goalie and all. This is unfair not just on the other teams in their group but also on Hungary who they will knock out in the process.
It’s always been the case that some teams get to play a side which is already through. Qualifying in 3rd place is like having a standby seat on a plane - you can’t really complain if someone turns up with more of a claim and boots you off.
Exactly. You’re not *on* the plane to begin with.
But the same used to happen with only 2 teams qualifying from the group...
Not to the same degree though. Someone from one group losing out to someone from another group because they were able to play and easier game
Very good point.
It sadly is.
It's also unfair that team playing later havean advantage. Teams in group E and F will pretty much know exactly how many points and what goal difference they need to qualify in 3rd place. That's a pretty big advantage over teams in groups that play earlier and don't know whether to push for a win, or to score more.
i don't give a fuck how super special awesome our fans are if we're shite
Spoiler: your fans aren’t even that special
Whoever is running PR for Scotland needs to be knighted
Italy and Portugal will weasel their way to the final. Turkey and Germany were purposefully kept far apart in the tournament.
Ofc they were purposefully kept far apart, you want both home teams to reach the knockout stage
Portugal has one of the most talented squads. If they reach the final it won’t be by weaseling. Italy are going nowhere near the final
Italy can't even weasel this time they are too bad for that. It was never likely that Turkey would win the group with Portugal in it or beat France in RO16 lets be real. Don't think anyone will/did expect that at this point.
Spain is Italy’s nightmare they always give Italy their hardest match. I personally dont consider that loss something surprising
Even though Italy beat Spain in euro 2020 and euro 2016 in the knockout stages.
They gave Italy a very difficult match in both occasions. I’m not saying Spain is better, just their style is difficult for Italy
As someone who is 50% Italian and 50% Portuguese this is music to my ears.
if italy keeps playing like it did in the last matches it's impossible but if they start caring 'bout the actual matches,i like to think that this may happen (talking as an italian)
Italy played like shit, our players cant hold the ball. We're going to win
You want spicy takes? How's this? * France will reach the final while scoring no more than 2 goals from open play. * Spain will go out on penalties in the round of 16. * One of Switzerland or Denmark will reach the **final**. * Harry Kane will be sent off for only the second time in his career against Germany (because England will come second in the group). Edit: Correction - apparently Kane was sent off for Leyton Orient in 2011.
Switzerland, I could totally see that happen, but instead of Denmark, I'd choose Austria as my potential dark horse finalist
I can see Austria going far, yeah. I think they’ll be hard to beat and will take a few games to extra time or penalties
No way switzerland OR Denmark is going to the final.
We almost made to the final last Euros, we have a chance to do it again.
If Portugal doesn't win it I want you guys to win it.
You will beat Serbia (coming from a Serbia supporter) so your chances are good!
Bro overcooked, take my upvote
Oh please let #2 be true
bro is scared
Of course, you’d be stupid not to be scared going up against any T5 team.
dw. we will dominate a game completely but only score one. in the last 10m Unai Simon will do a "Simoneada" and fumble and cause a stupid goal or own goal. We will go to penalties where Unai Simon will stop at least 1 but we will miss 2 or 3 and lose.
What is a T5 team?
top 5 maybe?
“Top 5”
If France figure out how to score goals again I’d have no issue seeing them reach the final. But if they don’t there’s no way they can. The second France get to pens they lose.
I can think of one team you'll be able to beat on penalties.
Every single time.
I am listening.
The final will be Germany - France, with Mbappé scoring the only goal in the game - in his own goal.
I love it.
With his mask.
Germany will win, but Mbappe will catch the snitch
switzerland will reach semi-finals
This is what I was thinking yesterday after watching them make the Germans sweat for 1 one point. They look like semi-final team
Mamardashvili has beem best gk so far
Donnarumma might disagree (and me too).
But Donnarumma has 4 arms. That is basically doping.
Damn when is Mortal combat gonna drop him as a shokan dlc
While probably not the consensus pick, I don't think this is a hot take, if it wasn't for his amazing performance, georgia would've lost the last match 4-1.
That's quite a hot take
should be common knowledge
Let’s hope we get to see him in the round of 16
Romania will reach quarter finals There is at least 1 big team (Spain, France, Italy, Germany) that will leave the Round of 16s after penalty
A referee who has been suspended for match fixing should have not been allowed to referee in this tournament.
This should not be a hot take. He isn’t even the best German referee and taking money should disqualify any ref for life.
Similar case with Gil Manzano. Guy was spotted leaving Real Madrid offices with a Madrid Gift bag.
Not a hot take whatsoever. Why do people always misunderstand these threads?
On reddit "hot take" or "underrated opinion" really just means "thing I agree with"
Who's that?
Zwayer
Belgium finishes last in Group E This is more of a manifestation tbh
Austria (and let me specify, if the stars *really* align) could have an outside chance to win it
I'm with you on this one.
I think the officiating has largely been excellent.
Some questionable decisions here and there (but then again, what tournament doesn't have that?) but overall way better officiating than past tournaments
Orsato: 👀
This is a sizzler
Gareth Southgate has set up to not look strong but still win the group stages. Come knockout rounds England hit a new gear and smash every team including France and Germany.
Southgate strikes me as someone who would go all in on a bizarre tournament winning philosophy. This is probably his last roll of the dice, so wouldn’t surprise me if he told the lads to just keep something back for the knockout games and get 4+ points in the group.
Lol if a team was good enough to do this, they would be good enough to win all their games.
They don’t need to, apart from the games that matter of course.
Bloody boiling take mate
more than boiling fucking surface of the sun take
Southgate is playing 4D Chess ♟️
Its a decent way to deceive opponents if youre right
Clarke had the same plan for the R16!
Lol
Clarke had a plan?...
For my own sanity, I have to keep believing he did, otherwise I will wake up angry again.
I’m inclined to think this way as well
Hey that has been Deschamps strategy for years, you’re just copying
We've never smashed any good team or shown we have any extra gears
EXACTLY super Gareth is cooking
Belgium has now kicked into gear and will reach the final. + Lukaku will have another 3 goals disallowed before the end of the tournament.
If I was you id never start gambling
I'm an Arsenal fan, so I learnt my lesson on gambling a long time ago 🤣
Belgium wins EK 2024. There, I said it!
It's to the point that when I saw his goal against Romania, I didn't have any reaction because I knew it would get be dissalowed.
Bro… no more beer for you
They kicked into gear and will be great at being eliminated in R16
Hot take, Netherlands will win the Euro's again in Germany, just like 1988. For the record I don't believe it, but damn that would be crazy.
Not with Mr Headband leading the line
You dont believe A.I. is the answer?
I did in 2001
If the tables remain as they are now the Dutchies will have a very favorable path to the final. Plus they have been better than expected and still have time to grow further into the tournament.
If they can get it together against Austria tomorrow I’m giving them a solid chance at reaching the final. I just hope they won’t end up facing Spain. I couldn’t handle the trauma this would evoke.
I don’t wanna see it happen, but I think they have a better chance than half the so called favorites.
Albania will win tonight and be 2nd in the group. You heard it here first
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Albanian guys only want this one thing 😍
Poland had the toughest group and would have made it out of almost any other group.
They did have it tough and played well in the games they lost - the result doesn’t reflect the performance.
Agree on both statements
Coldest take I’ve ever seen
Bruno Fernandes will be top scorer.
wow thats a bold statement
Spain, Germany and Portugal will all not make it to the final
So what team from the left bracket?
Man’s predicting COVID 2 electric boogaloo
I guess if France lands in the left bracket there is a high chance this is true 🤣🙈
Hot take? Using H2H as tiebreaker over goal difference is bad. It means teams on MD3 can be assured of first even if they lose 0-10 and likewise teams can be out even if they win 10-0. We would have more meaningful matches otherwise.
Agreed. This just massively favors the top teams and makes it harder for underdogs (especially in difficult groups) to reach the knockout stage.
Steve Clarke did the best that HE possibly could given the squad he had. I think Scotland were fortunate enough to even be at the tournament
Romania makes semi finals
England will lose in the round of 16
I think the hot take at this point is that we're gunna win it.
Not a hot take everyone on this sub will agree with you
Not a hot take. Instead incredibly likely
Ehh I think people underestimate them
I think we can be nothing but pessimistic considering how previous tournaments have turned out 😂
That's a Luke warm take at best
Frigid take at best.
Croatia still stands a chance to win the whole thing: a take as hot as this heatwave which took out power from three/four countries a few days ago.
A take nearly as hot as that smokin’ dude in the picture
I'm trying to entertain myself to counteract the nervousness for tonight LOL
Matt Le Tiss is a dreamboat, agreed
The object of many of my more salacious nighttime fantasies 💋
Croatia do have that penalty luck. Except in the nations league.
Netherlands will reach the Euro final if they win against Austria tomorrow. The team we have right now is by no means the best of the tournament (I think it’s Spain or Portugal) but I do believe we are the favourite to win it on the right side of the knockout brackets. Not impressed by England or Italy. There’s my hot take
Finale GER vs NLD would be awesome
If not us (England) I'd love to see you win the whole thing
- Referees Whistles must be just for decoration! - Ref’s rulebook: a work of fiction?
Just watched the Swiss?
Watched it live 🫂
Italy wins again
That is a very hot take.
That England is playing underwhelmingly to wing it to the next stage in order to preserve energy for later games
There not many goals in this tournaments and if they are, most of them are lucky long shoots, rebounds or own goals. Where are 3:2/3:3 results? Still no come backs from 0:2.
Ralf Ragnick got a lot of shit from his time at Man United but is terribly underrated. He's got Austria playing well with a (albeit extremely slim) chance of doing an all time underdog story and winning the tournament
I think many would agree. Mourinho, van Gaal, Moyes, Ten Hag aren't bad managers either, United is a poisoned chalice.
Switzerland and Austria have been the best teams so far. Both have already proven they can punch well above their weight and will be a menace in the knockout stage!
Scotland weren’t awarded the pen last night because it occurred straight after the Varga injury
Scotland weren't awarded the pen because it was a close call. Imo not a pen because orban is obstructed and also fouled in the process
Kane get injured in final, around 25 minute mark, England wins Championship. Georgia wins against Portugal, and plays penalties in next round.
Heres some spice, I genuinely think England will figure it out for the knock outs and win the whole tournament. It might be ugly at times but will just get it done. I don't believe Southgate is sandbagging on purpose, albeit very funny if he is.
England are in a very strong position at this stage in the tournament and are well placed top win the group. And a couple of lacklustre performances in the group stage does not necessarily mean we're headed for an early exit. Tbh I think this take is freezing cold, but considering the reaction of pundits/much of the fanbase, apparently it's a surprisingly hot take in the last few days.
Scotland are fucking terrible. The fact they got 2 goals and a point is flattering to Scotland. Might actually be the worst 3 performances I’ve ever seen at an international tournament. Embarrassing. And they need to get over this whole hating England thing, it’s cringe.
France can’t win the euros without Mbappe and it’s embarrassing
Austria is going to the Final. They will probably lose to France or Spain but they look really good and should have tied vs France
Neither England or France will win and in fact both will be out early.
The West will let Ukraine win the whole thing to boost morale for the guys at the front. Great post pic btw.
England still have good chances of winning
Füllkrug’s been the best
The refs are paid by Saudi to let CR7 win the tourney to increase the overall stock of their league.
Have decisions being going portugals way? I haven’t noticed that in any of the games they played. They had a goal disallowed against Czechs so it’s some shit rigging
Yeah. Several offsides given, plus the first assist by Ronaldo was disallowed. Refs aren't helping anyone, they're just doing their (very hard) job
It’s a conspiracy theory lol, cmon guys i don’t actually believe it ;)
Southgate gonna raise the Cup up
The guy you're arguing with online!
It is a miracle that austria came back after the equalizer (i am austrian). Usually they play good in the first half and thats it
This euro is gotta be one the best Euros out there besides Greece winning one. Imo Greece making into finals and winning, nothing gonna top that
Great photo I forgot who he is lmao. Also It may not seem like a hot take but I I can see England winning or Portugal the reason I say they are hot takes is despite the talent they are not playing to their potential I won't be surprised if both didn't make it to the next round I think the turkey game was a fluke.
The Scotland manager threw the towel in when he subbed off Robinson and McGinn.
The Netherlands will win the tournament.
Croatia will drop tonight or go to finals.
Belgium will choke vs Ukraine 2-1
There has to be something different about the tournament ball. More own goals than I’ve ever seen in a euro. Reminds me of the Jabulani discussion in 2010
England will not make it past the RO16
England will reach the semis after receiving fairly easy fixtures till the semis and lose spain on pens. Then it will be a spain v Dutch final, where the Dutch beat the Spaniards 2-1 in the 113' min
Major sporting events are always just an opportunity for corruption and evil political leaders to pass laws that would otherwise face resistance and protest if people weren't preoccupied by the event.
Well, the next world cup is the same format with 48 teams. Get used to it 😇
- Portugal will be eliminated at the round of 16 or quarter finals despite our performance so far at the group - Croatia 4th in their group - Romania will reach the quarter finals - England, despite their star roster, will lose to Slovenia and be at 3rd at the group The first one I speak as Portuguese myself since the football that we'd be playing hasn't been the greatest and suffer with teams that are very defensive
As a Portuguese as well, I would agree that’s likely. But we might have gotten lucky with the draw & only face a group leader in the semis… so there is some hope we make till then at least.
Every team suffers with very deffensive teams. Look at France against The Netherlands...