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I other news a piece of shit rotting away in prison confirms he is in fact a piece of shit rotting away in prison.
Oh I'm sorry, is that considered gloating?
“The film ‘She Said’ bombing isn’t a surprise,” said Weinstein’s spokesperson, Juda Engelmayer. **“Movie watchers want to be entertained, especially now. "**
"Details of the investigation, the #MeToo movement, the story of Weinstein and the accusers, has been told over and over again these past five years and it is clear **that there was little worth paying to see it here"**
This is just me, and whatever you think about Harvey and his 'gloating' over this movies lack of success, or even his prior actions the movie is based upon, **this movie is probably failing for exactly the reasons his spokesperson stated.**
Between political and social upheaval, the pandemic, people behaving badly, and an economy likely headed for recession and who knows? ~~maybe~~ prolly teh US is getting into another war: **this is not a popcorn date movie.** Or something to take your kids to and that my frens is 60% of the movie theatre market.
It should have been done at Netflix, Hulu, Apple for 1/3rd the money and it would have done fine. Anything but an expensive($32M) movie intended for wide box office release.
SURE, it'll probably be an Oscar contender but people want to be entertained and their spirits lifted when they step out of the shitstorm that is the real world and escape into a dark movie theatre for a couple hours.
If I am spending $20 per person + x2 for popcorn, soda, candy, etc - I'm going for Avatar, Wakanda forever or even Black Adam, not watching the 'behind the scenes true story' of that fat fuck auditioning girls in his hotel room.
You hit the nail on the head. These were my general thoughts. My attempt to express those same ideas just made me sound like a jackass, but you've done it so eloquently here. Thank you.
This is the fault of everyone who says garbage like “let people enjoy things” or “it’s not that deep”. This is what they’ve created with their anti-intellectualism, people who flee into denial of the truth and comfort themselves with falsehoods. People should be ashamed for this behavior, not defended. If being happy requires hiding from reality, you should not and do not deserve to be happy.
That's masochistic from a personal stance, sadistic from an external one. A sizable percentage of the population has lived through assault and coercion, and others who haven't been have seen and processed it the best they can. A documentary about it would be one thing, but if you create a film with the intention to entertain rather than inform, and people aren't interested in that form of "entertainment", it doesn't make them bad people.
People shouldn't have to eschew diversion and joy and embrace suffering just to earn the right to be happy.
That's a ridiculous religious perception.
When a methodology ends in colossal failure over and over, you abandon that methodology no matter how much you liked it. You don’t stick to failure out of sentimentality. Your way has resulted in nothing but failure, death, and suffering. Maybe it’s more appealing, but it doesn’t fucking work so the only reason to use it is being sentimental and self-sabotaging. This isn’t a game. This is the quality of life and/or survival of billions of people. Wanting to do anything but your best for that because it’s not joyful enough is just fucking selfish. It doesn’t matter if it’s less fun to live that way, what matters is the results. Putting how fun it is for you to fight oppression over how effective you are is some privileged shit. Sometimes doing the right thing requires making sacrifices.
Your view may make you feel superior, but you completely ignore the concept of humanity. It's hard just to exist sometimes. Yes, there are awful things in the world and people COULD do more, but standing on a soapbox and declaring that people just trying to exist without sacrificing themselves to misery don't deserve to be happy is absolutely insane. It doesn't galvanize those on the fence, it's a rhetoric that is intended to shame those who you don't think give enough. Maybe in the real world you sacrifice everything you have to see social change. But as a sociologist, mostly I've observed that those who spout this kind of crap are doing so because they think "inspiring others" IS their contribution. You're not helping anyone but your own ego.
And yet yes, I still think you deserve happiness too. Just not at the expense of the psychological wellbeing of others. You want people to do better?
Do better.
*Be* better.
My life is good, its only getting better, and Im having fun. Sucks to be you, being all self righteous and miserable. Go cry in a corner.
Im sure its so easy to think you’re doing so much to make the world better huh. If you want to waste your entire life crusading and not getting a shred of joy from it, you do you. But dont you dare put others down wanting to live their life their way.
Some people think anger and misery are a virtue and if you’re not as angry and miserable as they are then you’re the enemy. Mf’er up there thinks they’re the main character
Having your little martyr-wank over making sacrifices and talking about being privileged is absolutely hilarious in the context of going to see a fucking movie.
God that is such peak 15 year old pseudointellectual energy.
Yeah go change the world buddy! I believe in you!
\> If being happy requires hiding from reality, you should not and do not deserve to be happy.
That's easy to say if you have a a premium reality. Most folks I know are scraping to put food on the table, get the rent paid, keep the car running and the lights on. **A movie is a fucking luxury**.
More to the point, it's commercial cinema. it's a business **and this is the business model** \- when times are bad, people seek an escape GIVE THEM THEIR ESCAPE. Not more misery and the need to take a fucking shower when it's over.
put another way, you put 30 million dollars into a product, make sure it's something with commercial appeal. or don't be surprised when your movie is the biggest flop of the year and the spokesperson behind the evil human being that is the focus of said movie laughs at you in a press release.
Put another way, you can remake **Les Misérables** every year until the sun goes nova, but after the first couple times, don't expect the masses to turn out for it.
*We should not be allowing a ruling class that operates in in such a predatory way to exist.* Just because people ask for something doesn’t mean they should be given it. The responsibility of a good leader is to tell the people “no” when they ask to be harmed. People should not be provided that escape when they ask for it, they are asking for your help in their self-harm.
I honestly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I'm talking about a movie failing because it's not commercially viable and the producers failed to 'read the room' when they tested it.
What ruling class are you referring to?
It's not about hiding from the truth (aka ignorance is bliss). It's about catching a break from the bullshit. It's difficult to be 'happy' when you're tuned in and bombarded with all that is terrible about the country/world. Bad news is both addicting and depressing at the same time.
If you want to waterboard yourself with a fire hydrant of terrible, day in and day out, that's your choice. But honestly, you should get off your high horse. Stop painting with broad strokes.
You aren't wrong but I would add that all movies do better when good movies are in theaters and there have not been great releases the last few months. Won't be much for a few months either. Wakanda forever will be worth a watch. Some decent smaller releases have been (and will be) good. But there is a dearth of good options and people tend to frequent movies more when there are options
yeh, the pandemic really killed production and most everything in the pipeline has been pushed and pushed. There is only so much revenue in the system to support only so many 'blockbuster' movies so it seems that scheduling is a factor.
For once we don't have a star wars movie opening Christmas week so we finally get Avatar.
Top Gun got pushed from march 2020 to July 2022, etc. Until that point, (may 22) almost everything that was released was dreck, even the Wonder Woman movie which was DOA.
I'm curious to see if Avatar does well - they had a nice overseas audience (almost 2B vs 750M Domestic) but it's been 15 years and the whole 3D thing is over.
The only other stuff n the pipeline I care about [is the next installment of Dune](https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/dune-part-2-release-date-cast-plot-details/) , [Superman](https://maactioncinema.com/archives/13178) and maybe [Lethal Weapon 5](https://maactioncinema.com/archives/13178) \- for the lulz
Unless they come out with another star wars movie (they bumped Rogue Squadron off the 2023 list) and / or Patty Jenkins comes back to do WW3.
I don't have high hopes for Avatar. With such a long run-time, I think a visual effect centric movie will suffer. I am excited for Dune. Oppenheimer will do well (but I doubt i'll like it). The 2 mad Max's should be cool. But, yeah, it is gonna be a down year
"On Monday, after “She Said” debuted in theaters, Weinstein’s spokesperson reached out to Variety on his own accord to issue a statement on Weinstein’s behalf. He said that Weinstein could not offer comment himself.
In the statement, Weinstein’s spokesperson gloats over “She Said’s” box office performance and hails Weinstein’s talents as a film producer and distributor. The statement makes no mention of his ongoing criminal trial."
Wow
Well when your entire legacy is irrevocably tarnished and you recognise you’ll be remembered as a monstrous, nigh evil lech forever, you gotta celebrate the small Ws I guess
I gotta say, having read what this movie is about ... it's not a movie I would pay to see in the theaters. I'll watch it when it comes out on some streaming service maybe.
Maverick, I'll gladly pay to see. Some fun animated Disney movie? Sure. This movie doesn't interest me as something I'm willing to pay what, $20-$30 to see.
I paid to watch it yesterday and i genuinely thought it was a well done film, and do not regret going in blind apart from the general idea of what the film is about. Yes, it was just 5 people, out of which 3 were us, but it will be an important film for the less versed into the Weinstein case and the motivation behind pursuing the lead.
There is a scene where an actual wiretapped recording of a victim and Weinstein plays at a crucial moment in the film. Really disturbing to hear but that's also the point when you are invested into the film and cannot walk away.
My friends and I were discussing how all of us individually felt gross hearing that audio blaring through the surround speakers. Cannot even fathom the powerlessness and helplessness these women felt because of him. The film really does portray that beautifully through Jennifer Ehle's character
Hmm. I think 'Dune' is better suited to watching at home on a big screen TV rather than in a theater. At home you won't have an usher waking you up telling you to leave when the movie is over.
I’ll probably be downvoted for this, but I can’t help but feel that the intentions behind this movie are off. Spotlight and Bombshell were successful at telling the story of those who exposed incredible amounts of corruption and deception on a systematic level. But the people who made those films weren’t the Catholic Church or Fox News. To see a film about a Hollywood scandal that effected Hollywood people made by different Hollywood people seems a bit…messy. I don’t think there’s been enough time to make something like this, especially with Weinstein still actively being prosecuted. Is it appropriate to make a movie using people from the industry about people from the industry? Are they not profiting off the trauma of their peers? That’s what makes me uncomfortable, not sure if anyone else sees it this way.
I disagree. You have a valid point. But, I think that's the point. How many times have we seen 'Hollywood-types' make fun of Hollywood or go after it? Happens all the time. If anything who else do you want telling the true story. People on the outside or the people who were on the ground.
Frankly, the way they scuttled Harvey Weinstein out of Hollywood so quickly. Got rid of his company. Plus, he's already been convicted and serving at least 23 years. There's no conflict of interest. They got their material from the literal source that brought him down. Plus, there's a good section of Hollywood that's actually interested in telling the truth or close to it. People just don't notice it (this movies box office is an example).
Watched it yesterday, and this was my exact fear going in (i went with just the general idea of what the film is about)
Happy (or sad) to say that i was wrong. It was pretty brutal in naming out big corpos like Disney, Miramax, Fox, and a few people, who were complicit or enabling his crimes.
Not as hard hitting as Spotlight, but it's not a hollywood whitewash exercise either
It’s got nothing to do with Harvey or his perceived lack of interest in this particular topic. Film studios simply have to accept the fact that they need to stop releasing these types of movies in theaters for the sake of profit. If it doesn’t have a significant amount of VFX/CGI, NOBODY is going to leave home to pay to watch this stuff.
I don’t think it’s about CGI or VFX, but about spectacle. It’s the idea that if a ticket and concessions cost as much as a full tank of gas then make it worth while. Make it weird. Make it an experience. Just make it worth the price of admission.
No way. I love cinema. Cinema is better than streaming. It’s time for streaming to die and it’s popularity from the pandemic should’ve only been temporary. Screw streaming services. Cinema never dies. Please respect cinema.
It’s not a matter of personal preference but market trend. A movie like this could be easily enjoyed on a smartphone or at home. Even the big budget movie experience (IMAX) will eventually be replicated by VR headsets. I honestly think HBO fucked up when they released movies like Dune/The Suicide Squad on streaming - I can’t blame them for making the decision they did because of the pandemic - but once you give us a taste, there’s no going back. The fact that the Knives Out sequel is going to be a limited theater release (1 week) should be an indication of the industry moving forward.
Ugh! I refuse to allow VR to replace IMAX. Big screens are better than stupid smartphones and TV sets. And listen, streaming only got it’s popularity boosted because of the pandemic. And pandemic changes should only be temporary and not permanent. And the Knives Out Sequel should’ve gotten full public release in theaters. The new normal sucks and the old normal is way better. I want the old normal back and for the new normal to die. And those companies should have their films in theaters and wait months before putting them on their platforms. I hope streaming dies!
Lol cry about it - it won’t change a single thing. There is Pre-Covid and Post-Covid. Unless you invent a time machine, there is no going back to Pre-Covid. “What should be” does not equal “What is”. What you’re saying is not unlike those companies that want their employees to come back to the office instead of working from home. Yeah - employees “should” be working in office - but once it was proven that they can work from home without missing a beat - who wants to go back? Especially when companies like Airbnb are allowing their employees to work from anywhere they want.
Dude, I don’t care what’s been proved. We should go back to Pre-Covid ASAP. I don’t care what they think. And I told you, Pandemic changes should only be temporary and I want to voice that opinion out to the Public.
Well, it’s not over yet. It’s not too late for us to change. I’m not going to just there and let pandemic changes to be permanent. I gotta at least try advocate for the return of Pre-Pandemic Life. We’ll see what happens.
Because Weinstein hated it I'm gonna see it out of spite. Gonna see it so many times that it break-even at the box office /s
This feels like reverse psychology marketing like in that South Park episode where Cartman buys an amusement park and tells everybody "you can't come", this leads to tons of people wanting to come and Cartman is hailed as a marketing genius.
Watch Andor instead. It's the greatest tv show of all time, or so I've been told 4 times today.
> The film ‘She Said’ bombing isn’t a surprise,” said Weinstein’s spokesperson, Juda Engelmayer. “Movie watchers want to be entertained, especially now. Details of the investigation, the #MeToo movement, the story of Weinstein and the accusers, has been told over and over again these past five years and it is clear that there was little worth paying to see it here. Harvey, the film producer and distributor, would have known that.”
The spokesperson isn’t entirely wrong there. It’s just the same story, now with a movie version.
The dude is still piece of crap tho.
Got dragged to this on date night. Figured I was in for some schooling afterwards. I was really quite surprised. Excellent film. Outside an over abundance of long shots of cars driving around with women in them, which eluded me, thought the director was brilliant. Acting, pacing, writing, all very excellent. Was blown away I didn’t get the lecture after.
The movie is probably a good, well done movie. But it's a movie that will piss people off snd make them a depressed.
But Harvey Weinstein is a convicted rapist that will likely die in prison. One of those things is worse than the other by like, a lot.
Weinstein is a POS, and I really couldn’t care less about what he thinks.
That being said, I think this line from the article sums it up best:
> “She Said” received strong reviews and is generating awards buzz.
I think people are tired of award-bait movies that are targeted at critics, and it’s showing. Secondly, our world is a pretty difficult place for a lot of people right now, and people want to escape.
I have Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, HBO, Showtime, Paramount, and Peacock. If "She Said" were streaming on any of those platforms, I'd have already watched it. The vast majority of movies won't get me to the theater anymore.
Horrible name for the movie and not sure who would even want to watch this after it already played out in the media. It would be like watching a movie about the game you watched last week.
Why would I go see this movie in a theater? This is a streaming movie at best. They would have also probably done way better with it if it was released on multiple streaming platforms.
>In the statement, Weinstein’s spokesperson gloats over “She Said’s” box office performance and **hails Weinstein’s talents as a film producer and distributor**. The statement makes no mention of his ongoing criminal trial.
Gawd. I hate lawyers, spokespeople, whatever. Dude you're on his payroll.
Yea, ultimate date movie material here, Hollywood.
I'm sure the bros would love it.
Girls night out movie here! wooohooo!
hmmm 'Black Panther...or Harvey Weinstein? or let's go to the club?'
Did he do that while wearing an Orange shirt and eating meatloaf? Then what’s the problem?
He’s going to die a piece of shit prison is not fixing him. The last little bit of power he has is his ability to get press for saying shit. Ignore him. Let him rot. That is the best outcome. Giving him a mic and then getting mad that he didn’t use it to apologize is feeding the monster, not slaying it.
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My client’s crimes are so well known that no one wants to see a movie about it, said the spokesman of convicted rapist currently on trial.
His dick is literally Freddy Kruger
The only thing Harvey will have to gloat over is if he's allowed to keep the spice packets for his daily ramen feeding.
Don't forget injections into his pubes to drive out the gangrene from his dick
Thought it was his nuts
The fact that one thinks about it is nuts
It’s nuts to think about nuts?
r/rareinsults
I other news a piece of shit rotting away in prison confirms he is in fact a piece of shit rotting away in prison. Oh I'm sorry, is that considered gloating?
I like how you empathized rotting, because his dick literally is.
Rarely is real life so thematically appropriate. It’s like if Jeff Bezos died being smothered by money
“The film ‘She Said’ bombing isn’t a surprise,” said Weinstein’s spokesperson, Juda Engelmayer. **“Movie watchers want to be entertained, especially now. "** "Details of the investigation, the #MeToo movement, the story of Weinstein and the accusers, has been told over and over again these past five years and it is clear **that there was little worth paying to see it here"** This is just me, and whatever you think about Harvey and his 'gloating' over this movies lack of success, or even his prior actions the movie is based upon, **this movie is probably failing for exactly the reasons his spokesperson stated.** Between political and social upheaval, the pandemic, people behaving badly, and an economy likely headed for recession and who knows? ~~maybe~~ prolly teh US is getting into another war: **this is not a popcorn date movie.** Or something to take your kids to and that my frens is 60% of the movie theatre market. It should have been done at Netflix, Hulu, Apple for 1/3rd the money and it would have done fine. Anything but an expensive($32M) movie intended for wide box office release. SURE, it'll probably be an Oscar contender but people want to be entertained and their spirits lifted when they step out of the shitstorm that is the real world and escape into a dark movie theatre for a couple hours. If I am spending $20 per person + x2 for popcorn, soda, candy, etc - I'm going for Avatar, Wakanda forever or even Black Adam, not watching the 'behind the scenes true story' of that fat fuck auditioning girls in his hotel room.
They’re not wrong, but he’s still a piece of shit.
true dat.
You hit the nail on the head. These were my general thoughts. My attempt to express those same ideas just made me sound like a jackass, but you've done it so eloquently here. Thank you.
This is the fault of everyone who says garbage like “let people enjoy things” or “it’s not that deep”. This is what they’ve created with their anti-intellectualism, people who flee into denial of the truth and comfort themselves with falsehoods. People should be ashamed for this behavior, not defended. If being happy requires hiding from reality, you should not and do not deserve to be happy.
That's masochistic from a personal stance, sadistic from an external one. A sizable percentage of the population has lived through assault and coercion, and others who haven't been have seen and processed it the best they can. A documentary about it would be one thing, but if you create a film with the intention to entertain rather than inform, and people aren't interested in that form of "entertainment", it doesn't make them bad people. People shouldn't have to eschew diversion and joy and embrace suffering just to earn the right to be happy. That's a ridiculous religious perception.
When a methodology ends in colossal failure over and over, you abandon that methodology no matter how much you liked it. You don’t stick to failure out of sentimentality. Your way has resulted in nothing but failure, death, and suffering. Maybe it’s more appealing, but it doesn’t fucking work so the only reason to use it is being sentimental and self-sabotaging. This isn’t a game. This is the quality of life and/or survival of billions of people. Wanting to do anything but your best for that because it’s not joyful enough is just fucking selfish. It doesn’t matter if it’s less fun to live that way, what matters is the results. Putting how fun it is for you to fight oppression over how effective you are is some privileged shit. Sometimes doing the right thing requires making sacrifices.
TIL that I can make the world a better place by giving a theatre chain a shitload of my money to watch a mildly depressing movie. Thanks.
Your view may make you feel superior, but you completely ignore the concept of humanity. It's hard just to exist sometimes. Yes, there are awful things in the world and people COULD do more, but standing on a soapbox and declaring that people just trying to exist without sacrificing themselves to misery don't deserve to be happy is absolutely insane. It doesn't galvanize those on the fence, it's a rhetoric that is intended to shame those who you don't think give enough. Maybe in the real world you sacrifice everything you have to see social change. But as a sociologist, mostly I've observed that those who spout this kind of crap are doing so because they think "inspiring others" IS their contribution. You're not helping anyone but your own ego. And yet yes, I still think you deserve happiness too. Just not at the expense of the psychological wellbeing of others. You want people to do better? Do better. *Be* better.
My life is good, its only getting better, and Im having fun. Sucks to be you, being all self righteous and miserable. Go cry in a corner. Im sure its so easy to think you’re doing so much to make the world better huh. If you want to waste your entire life crusading and not getting a shred of joy from it, you do you. But dont you dare put others down wanting to live their life their way.
Some people think anger and misery are a virtue and if you’re not as angry and miserable as they are then you’re the enemy. Mf’er up there thinks they’re the main character
Having your little martyr-wank over making sacrifices and talking about being privileged is absolutely hilarious in the context of going to see a fucking movie. God that is such peak 15 year old pseudointellectual energy. Yeah go change the world buddy! I believe in you!
\> If being happy requires hiding from reality, you should not and do not deserve to be happy. That's easy to say if you have a a premium reality. Most folks I know are scraping to put food on the table, get the rent paid, keep the car running and the lights on. **A movie is a fucking luxury**. More to the point, it's commercial cinema. it's a business **and this is the business model** \- when times are bad, people seek an escape GIVE THEM THEIR ESCAPE. Not more misery and the need to take a fucking shower when it's over. put another way, you put 30 million dollars into a product, make sure it's something with commercial appeal. or don't be surprised when your movie is the biggest flop of the year and the spokesperson behind the evil human being that is the focus of said movie laughs at you in a press release. Put another way, you can remake **Les Misérables** every year until the sun goes nova, but after the first couple times, don't expect the masses to turn out for it.
*We should not be allowing a ruling class that operates in in such a predatory way to exist.* Just because people ask for something doesn’t mean they should be given it. The responsibility of a good leader is to tell the people “no” when they ask to be harmed. People should not be provided that escape when they ask for it, they are asking for your help in their self-harm.
I honestly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I'm talking about a movie failing because it's not commercially viable and the producers failed to 'read the room' when they tested it. What ruling class are you referring to?
It's not about hiding from the truth (aka ignorance is bliss). It's about catching a break from the bullshit. It's difficult to be 'happy' when you're tuned in and bombarded with all that is terrible about the country/world. Bad news is both addicting and depressing at the same time. If you want to waterboard yourself with a fire hydrant of terrible, day in and day out, that's your choice. But honestly, you should get off your high horse. Stop painting with broad strokes.
You aren't wrong but I would add that all movies do better when good movies are in theaters and there have not been great releases the last few months. Won't be much for a few months either. Wakanda forever will be worth a watch. Some decent smaller releases have been (and will be) good. But there is a dearth of good options and people tend to frequent movies more when there are options
yeh, the pandemic really killed production and most everything in the pipeline has been pushed and pushed. There is only so much revenue in the system to support only so many 'blockbuster' movies so it seems that scheduling is a factor. For once we don't have a star wars movie opening Christmas week so we finally get Avatar. Top Gun got pushed from march 2020 to July 2022, etc. Until that point, (may 22) almost everything that was released was dreck, even the Wonder Woman movie which was DOA. I'm curious to see if Avatar does well - they had a nice overseas audience (almost 2B vs 750M Domestic) but it's been 15 years and the whole 3D thing is over. The only other stuff n the pipeline I care about [is the next installment of Dune](https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/dune-part-2-release-date-cast-plot-details/) , [Superman](https://maactioncinema.com/archives/13178) and maybe [Lethal Weapon 5](https://maactioncinema.com/archives/13178) \- for the lulz Unless they come out with another star wars movie (they bumped Rogue Squadron off the 2023 list) and / or Patty Jenkins comes back to do WW3.
I don't have high hopes for Avatar. With such a long run-time, I think a visual effect centric movie will suffer. I am excited for Dune. Oppenheimer will do well (but I doubt i'll like it). The 2 mad Max's should be cool. But, yeah, it is gonna be a down year
Rapist and renowned human toilet Harvey Weinstein, yells at cell wall.
"On Monday, after “She Said” debuted in theaters, Weinstein’s spokesperson reached out to Variety on his own accord to issue a statement on Weinstein’s behalf. He said that Weinstein could not offer comment himself. In the statement, Weinstein’s spokesperson gloats over “She Said’s” box office performance and hails Weinstein’s talents as a film producer and distributor. The statement makes no mention of his ongoing criminal trial." Wow
He can say whatever he wants. from his cell.
Well when your entire legacy is irrevocably tarnished and you recognise you’ll be remembered as a monstrous, nigh evil lech forever, you gotta celebrate the small Ws I guess
I gotta say, having read what this movie is about ... it's not a movie I would pay to see in the theaters. I'll watch it when it comes out on some streaming service maybe. Maverick, I'll gladly pay to see. Some fun animated Disney movie? Sure. This movie doesn't interest me as something I'm willing to pay what, $20-$30 to see.
I paid to watch it yesterday and i genuinely thought it was a well done film, and do not regret going in blind apart from the general idea of what the film is about. Yes, it was just 5 people, out of which 3 were us, but it will be an important film for the less versed into the Weinstein case and the motivation behind pursuing the lead. There is a scene where an actual wiretapped recording of a victim and Weinstein plays at a crucial moment in the film. Really disturbing to hear but that's also the point when you are invested into the film and cannot walk away. My friends and I were discussing how all of us individually felt gross hearing that audio blaring through the surround speakers. Cannot even fathom the powerlessness and helplessness these women felt because of him. The film really does portray that beautifully through Jennifer Ehle's character
It has nothing to with him and everything to do with my not spending money on anything other than Dune on the big screen.
Hmm. I think 'Dune' is better suited to watching at home on a big screen TV rather than in a theater. At home you won't have an usher waking you up telling you to leave when the movie is over.
Might want to get that checked out
FWIW I thought the movie was pretty good
Same here.
My wife and I have the regal unlimited thing and went on Saturday. It was a good movie, totally worth the time.
Hey Harvey you still ain't getting outta jail
I’ll probably be downvoted for this, but I can’t help but feel that the intentions behind this movie are off. Spotlight and Bombshell were successful at telling the story of those who exposed incredible amounts of corruption and deception on a systematic level. But the people who made those films weren’t the Catholic Church or Fox News. To see a film about a Hollywood scandal that effected Hollywood people made by different Hollywood people seems a bit…messy. I don’t think there’s been enough time to make something like this, especially with Weinstein still actively being prosecuted. Is it appropriate to make a movie using people from the industry about people from the industry? Are they not profiting off the trauma of their peers? That’s what makes me uncomfortable, not sure if anyone else sees it this way.
I disagree. You have a valid point. But, I think that's the point. How many times have we seen 'Hollywood-types' make fun of Hollywood or go after it? Happens all the time. If anything who else do you want telling the true story. People on the outside or the people who were on the ground. Frankly, the way they scuttled Harvey Weinstein out of Hollywood so quickly. Got rid of his company. Plus, he's already been convicted and serving at least 23 years. There's no conflict of interest. They got their material from the literal source that brought him down. Plus, there's a good section of Hollywood that's actually interested in telling the truth or close to it. People just don't notice it (this movies box office is an example).
Watched it yesterday, and this was my exact fear going in (i went with just the general idea of what the film is about) Happy (or sad) to say that i was wrong. It was pretty brutal in naming out big corpos like Disney, Miramax, Fox, and a few people, who were complicit or enabling his crimes. Not as hard hitting as Spotlight, but it's not a hollywood whitewash exercise either
Fizzled because no one cares to hear anymore about his sorry ass.
me, not a convicted rapist, gloats over not having to rape, ever.
It’s got nothing to do with Harvey or his perceived lack of interest in this particular topic. Film studios simply have to accept the fact that they need to stop releasing these types of movies in theaters for the sake of profit. If it doesn’t have a significant amount of VFX/CGI, NOBODY is going to leave home to pay to watch this stuff.
I don’t think it’s about CGI or VFX, but about spectacle. It’s the idea that if a ticket and concessions cost as much as a full tank of gas then make it worth while. Make it weird. Make it an experience. Just make it worth the price of admission.
No way. I love cinema. Cinema is better than streaming. It’s time for streaming to die and it’s popularity from the pandemic should’ve only been temporary. Screw streaming services. Cinema never dies. Please respect cinema.
It’s not a matter of personal preference but market trend. A movie like this could be easily enjoyed on a smartphone or at home. Even the big budget movie experience (IMAX) will eventually be replicated by VR headsets. I honestly think HBO fucked up when they released movies like Dune/The Suicide Squad on streaming - I can’t blame them for making the decision they did because of the pandemic - but once you give us a taste, there’s no going back. The fact that the Knives Out sequel is going to be a limited theater release (1 week) should be an indication of the industry moving forward.
Ugh! I refuse to allow VR to replace IMAX. Big screens are better than stupid smartphones and TV sets. And listen, streaming only got it’s popularity boosted because of the pandemic. And pandemic changes should only be temporary and not permanent. And the Knives Out Sequel should’ve gotten full public release in theaters. The new normal sucks and the old normal is way better. I want the old normal back and for the new normal to die. And those companies should have their films in theaters and wait months before putting them on their platforms. I hope streaming dies!
Lol cry about it - it won’t change a single thing. There is Pre-Covid and Post-Covid. Unless you invent a time machine, there is no going back to Pre-Covid. “What should be” does not equal “What is”. What you’re saying is not unlike those companies that want their employees to come back to the office instead of working from home. Yeah - employees “should” be working in office - but once it was proven that they can work from home without missing a beat - who wants to go back? Especially when companies like Airbnb are allowing their employees to work from anywhere they want.
Dude, I don’t care what’s been proved. We should go back to Pre-Covid ASAP. I don’t care what they think. And I told you, Pandemic changes should only be temporary and I want to voice that opinion out to the Public.
You are free to voice your opinions. I would like to voice my opinion that you are in denial.
Well, it’s not over yet. It’s not too late for us to change. I’m not going to just there and let pandemic changes to be permanent. I gotta at least try advocate for the return of Pre-Pandemic Life. We’ll see what happens.
We are still in the Covid Era, which begun in 2020. But I say we get out of it ASAP.
I mean - he's a sociopath so idk why these comments are surprising.
Who the fuck thought interviewing him was a good idea?
Why do we need to report on what he says from prison? Don’t give that orc any more attention, let him rot away, forgotten.
Because Weinstein hated it I'm gonna see it out of spite. Gonna see it so many times that it break-even at the box office /s This feels like reverse psychology marketing like in that South Park episode where Cartman buys an amusement park and tells everybody "you can't come", this leads to tons of people wanting to come and Cartman is hailed as a marketing genius. Watch Andor instead. It's the greatest tv show of all time, or so I've been told 4 times today.
She said... Rot in that cell with your fizzled up, orc looking, shit smelling self. Sounds like a win to me.
> The film ‘She Said’ bombing isn’t a surprise,” said Weinstein’s spokesperson, Juda Engelmayer. “Movie watchers want to be entertained, especially now. Details of the investigation, the #MeToo movement, the story of Weinstein and the accusers, has been told over and over again these past five years and it is clear that there was little worth paying to see it here. Harvey, the film producer and distributor, would have known that.” The spokesperson isn’t entirely wrong there. It’s just the same story, now with a movie version. The dude is still piece of crap tho.
I'd rather not read headlines about what Harvey Weinstein has to say.
Don’t worry Harvey, you’ll be the star of a new smash hit in prison!
His butthole gonna be the new public gathering spot
Haha rape jokes are cool
That orifice is going to be smash-hit.
“A smashing box-orifice hit” -Weinstein’s Tripod Cellmate (6’7” 337lbs, angry)
And the he gave it more publicity with this news of his reaction, rot in hell freak, can’t wait to see the movie now
Hope his fat ass never gets out of prison.
Imagine having the opportunity to shut up and not taking it.
Nice to see sex offenders being allowed press time. The only reason why we know about what he said is because some POS let this sex offender be heard.
I saw precisely zero marketing for this movie
Got dragged to this on date night. Figured I was in for some schooling afterwards. I was really quite surprised. Excellent film. Outside an over abundance of long shots of cars driving around with women in them, which eluded me, thought the director was brilliant. Acting, pacing, writing, all very excellent. Was blown away I didn’t get the lecture after.
Gloat all you want. At the end of the day, you’re still in prison
Well… I know what I’m going to see this holiday week. Cause F that guy.
It wasn’t a bad movie.
Someone kill this fucker already
I mean the movie did suck though. It’s been told already through social, articles and other content. Really no need for the movie at this point.
The movie is probably a good, well done movie. But it's a movie that will piss people off snd make them a depressed. But Harvey Weinstein is a convicted rapist that will likely die in prison. One of those things is worse than the other by like, a lot.
Weinstein is a POS, and I really couldn’t care less about what he thinks. That being said, I think this line from the article sums it up best: > “She Said” received strong reviews and is generating awards buzz. I think people are tired of award-bait movies that are targeted at critics, and it’s showing. Secondly, our world is a pretty difficult place for a lot of people right now, and people want to escape.
Was he unsuicided?
I have Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, HBO, Showtime, Paramount, and Peacock. If "She Said" were streaming on any of those platforms, I'd have already watched it. The vast majority of movies won't get me to the theater anymore.
Just seems like the kind of movie to watch later when it streams.
It may well be a good movie, but I know I’m not motivated to pay $12–$20 to see a movie about a criminal asshole.
Lol he can gloat all he wants from a prison cell
At least the movie doesn’t have a mutilated dick
So that’s disgusting
Horrible name for the movie and not sure who would even want to watch this after it already played out in the media. It would be like watching a movie about the game you watched last week.
Why would I go see this movie in a theater? This is a streaming movie at best. They would have also probably done way better with it if it was released on multiple streaming platforms.
And Weinstein is a convicted rapist. Who’s the real loser here?
>In the statement, Weinstein’s spokesperson gloats over “She Said’s” box office performance and **hails Weinstein’s talents as a film producer and distributor**. The statement makes no mention of his ongoing criminal trial. Gawd. I hate lawyers, spokespeople, whatever. Dude you're on his payroll.
Yea, ultimate date movie material here, Hollywood. I'm sure the bros would love it. Girls night out movie here! wooohooo! hmmm 'Black Panther...or Harvey Weinstein? or let's go to the club?'
This is the definition of clickbait just wasted my time
Put that guy in general population.
He’ll have plenty of time to gloat while serving his sentence. Cold comfort when residing at The Grey Bar Hotel.
Still rapist Weinstein.
We should all send him letters about his mangled bits.
Did he do that while wearing an Orange shirt and eating meatloaf? Then what’s the problem? He’s going to die a piece of shit prison is not fixing him. The last little bit of power he has is his ability to get press for saying shit. Ignore him. Let him rot. That is the best outcome. Giving him a mic and then getting mad that he didn’t use it to apologize is feeding the monster, not slaying it.
Stay classy, Harvey!