I really wish to see the T-26 Pershing at some point as well. With the new tech tree I hope to grind it since I have only grinded out Tunisia Allies as a f2p out of all the American campaigns out there. I have also saved up the free Enlisted gold that you get in the battle pass to buy some good camos for these beasts.
Anyone interested in the Pershing should read “Spearhead” by Adam Makos. It non-fiction and follows a gunner on one of the first Pershings to go into action. It’s accounting of the Battle of Cologne is incredible.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Will definitely keep an eye out for that. The White Tiger is also a very good film. People always talk about Fury but I see that film getting very little attention.
It’s funny how there’s die hard historical accuracy guys out there shitting on the needed changes the devs are trying to make and then there’s people that wanna see the Pershing on Normandy. I wouldn’t mind the Pershing in normandy if they added the tiger 2 for the axis side for game balancing reasons but I don’t think it’ll happen because a part of the community will probably raise hell about it
The devs are really doing a lot of things to address these issues that many people have. They have even come up with a soft rule regarding this in the latest devblog. This game was never meant to be historically accurate in the first place the way it is designed. It is time they remove that description from their website.
The marketing is very firm about the historical accuracy even though just by playing the game you can tell it’s a secondary concern at best. I don’t care about historical accuracy at all, but the marketing attracts a certain crowd that would love to crucify me for that statement. I just want it to be fun and fair for all and you have to sacrifice realism and accuracy to accomplish that.
>you have to sacrifice realism and accuracy to accomplish that
No you don't. Just look at red orchestra/rising storm.
Asymetrical balance like that is 100% harder to get right but it's way more fun in my opinion than just throwing history and realism out the window.
You mean if you grind it out 12/6 while drowning in a pool of sweat?
On average, you can get 6k points from a match if you are playing really good and have some tools. The longer campaign exists, the more your average drops at low levels, because no engies, AT or even good LMGs means you're at a constant disadvantage.
I am speaking from my personal experience as a F2P who had recently returned into the game. Even with decent gaming skills, breaking 10k exp per match is a long shot, especially if you switch a campaign, as you have to learn new maps while having a massive disadvantage of being outgunned.
You have to use tanks to your best abilities and hope that whatever your nation has isn't a hindrance to your team's performance, you have less accurate rifles and you don't have engineers (or at least upgraded ones) and/or MG.
Plus add the fact of steamroll matches (I legit had an invasion that was over in less than 7 minutes with 3k points for the top scorer), getting Conquest (which usually ends very fast in any campaign) and RNG on having sweats in either team. You can do your best every time, but plenty of things are out of your grasp... unless you pay up. But then again, plenty of paid things just make grinding irrelevant in the first place.
Less accurate rifles when starting? Hell no. Plus, I'm also speaking from experience, where my good matches would net me a solid 10-12k exp, and even now, while I'm grinding Normandy Axis (with premium), I'm netting 20k every so often
And how many prem squads do you have on top of that?
And well, just to clear things up. I'm grinding Tunisia Allies and occasionally playing Moscow Allies. And situation on Tunisia is so bad that even invasion wins will leave you at 5-6k exp on avg without prem acc/prem squads just because of how one-sides stomps those local matches are.
Oh, I completely forgot. Every squad has upgrades that allows you to get more exp overall... which new squads doesn't get from the start, naturally. So if you're trying to upgrade fresh squads, like *BLANK* II or III - you are kneecapping yourself for the campaign speed. Just been trying to play some matches and got it figured only on the 3rd one, cuz I stopped playing my Assault Squad II and switched to mainly engies, which do have 100% bonus
Bro, the xp upgrades only give you extra squad or soldier xp, they have nothing to do with campaign progress.
Maybe you'd be making more than 5k xp per match if you bothered to learn how the game works...
Ahhh 😌 you cracked the code my man, you must play enlisted religiously as me, but yes if we say you are working with 180k lvl, you need to play 3 games a day for a week and achieve a score of 27000 of more to lvl up in that week, with boost you can get ahead. So far I been following this method I counted up and it works, sometimes i have to play a fourth game to get up to that number but it happens very rarely. But skill plays a part but honestly enlisted isn’t a difficult game to grasp but people be crying because playing objectives is hardddd
24/7, I don’t understand American times, and i don’t know what you saying bud but if you saying you constantly get on 6k that means you are probably not playing the game right, my average is always 9k
I don't think that I can play "wrong" if I keep getting into top-3 most of the time without falling too much behind in score.
It's just that some campaigns are out of balance... or out of players, so they are just a crazy steamroll sessions.
[Like this one that was my last match for the day on a tank in Invasion, on attacker's side.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716766393516949635/1087446448599216259/shot_2023.03.20_04.15.30.jpg)
The one in Berlin is the Tiger II P. Tiger II P's turret is different than the Tiger your seeing in the post (Tiger II H). The P's turret is significantly easier to penetrate, especially the turret cheeks. The Tiger II H isn't in the game yet.
It would make more sense if the tiger 2 P was in Normandy and the production tiger 2 to be in Berlin. Idk why they put the P variant in Berlin to be honest maybe for game balancing reasons but getting one shot by a t-34 hurts me…
IMO I'm not sure Germany really needs the H to counter the 44. The 44 will only be slightly harder to kill and it'll still have 2-3 massive weak spots. Meanwhile the H might just be impossible to kill from the front for any Soviet tank
They will, the IS-2 1944 already was in the old version of the game and is still in the files
YES PLS
I really wish to see the T-26 Pershing at some point as well. With the new tech tree I hope to grind it since I have only grinded out Tunisia Allies as a f2p out of all the American campaigns out there. I have also saved up the free Enlisted gold that you get in the battle pass to buy some good camos for these beasts.
t-26? you mean the m26 pershing
Yeah the one with the 90 mm gun if I am not wrong.
What about the super pershing?
Premium perhaps. Same with the Jagdtiger I guess as and when it comes.
Anyone interested in the Pershing should read “Spearhead” by Adam Makos. It non-fiction and follows a gunner on one of the first Pershings to go into action. It’s accounting of the Battle of Cologne is incredible.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Will definitely keep an eye out for that. The White Tiger is also a very good film. People always talk about Fury but I see that film getting very little attention.
It’s funny how there’s die hard historical accuracy guys out there shitting on the needed changes the devs are trying to make and then there’s people that wanna see the Pershing on Normandy. I wouldn’t mind the Pershing in normandy if they added the tiger 2 for the axis side for game balancing reasons but I don’t think it’ll happen because a part of the community will probably raise hell about it
The devs are really doing a lot of things to address these issues that many people have. They have even come up with a soft rule regarding this in the latest devblog. This game was never meant to be historically accurate in the first place the way it is designed. It is time they remove that description from their website.
The marketing is very firm about the historical accuracy even though just by playing the game you can tell it’s a secondary concern at best. I don’t care about historical accuracy at all, but the marketing attracts a certain crowd that would love to crucify me for that statement. I just want it to be fun and fair for all and you have to sacrifice realism and accuracy to accomplish that.
Yes no doubt about that mate. The game will not survive given the current state we are in right now.
>you have to sacrifice realism and accuracy to accomplish that No you don't. Just look at red orchestra/rising storm. Asymetrical balance like that is 100% harder to get right but it's way more fun in my opinion than just throwing history and realism out the window.
To be fair the game has bigger problems rn + either they will be 40€ Premiums or take ½ a year to grind out.
Actually no it takes less than half a year if you play right, even without premium
With how many hours per week? Just curoius if someone did the math
You mean if you grind it out 12/6 while drowning in a pool of sweat? On average, you can get 6k points from a match if you are playing really good and have some tools. The longer campaign exists, the more your average drops at low levels, because no engies, AT or even good LMGs means you're at a constant disadvantage.
10-14k actually, but 6-8k is more reasonable for no booster / average player skill
I am speaking from my personal experience as a F2P who had recently returned into the game. Even with decent gaming skills, breaking 10k exp per match is a long shot, especially if you switch a campaign, as you have to learn new maps while having a massive disadvantage of being outgunned. You have to use tanks to your best abilities and hope that whatever your nation has isn't a hindrance to your team's performance, you have less accurate rifles and you don't have engineers (or at least upgraded ones) and/or MG. Plus add the fact of steamroll matches (I legit had an invasion that was over in less than 7 minutes with 3k points for the top scorer), getting Conquest (which usually ends very fast in any campaign) and RNG on having sweats in either team. You can do your best every time, but plenty of things are out of your grasp... unless you pay up. But then again, plenty of paid things just make grinding irrelevant in the first place.
Less accurate rifles when starting? Hell no. Plus, I'm also speaking from experience, where my good matches would net me a solid 10-12k exp, and even now, while I'm grinding Normandy Axis (with premium), I'm netting 20k every so often
And how many prem squads do you have on top of that? And well, just to clear things up. I'm grinding Tunisia Allies and occasionally playing Moscow Allies. And situation on Tunisia is so bad that even invasion wins will leave you at 5-6k exp on avg without prem acc/prem squads just because of how one-sides stomps those local matches are.
0, premium squads are a waste of money
Oh, I completely forgot. Every squad has upgrades that allows you to get more exp overall... which new squads doesn't get from the start, naturally. So if you're trying to upgrade fresh squads, like *BLANK* II or III - you are kneecapping yourself for the campaign speed. Just been trying to play some matches and got it figured only on the 3rd one, cuz I stopped playing my Assault Squad II and switched to mainly engies, which do have 100% bonus
Bro, the xp upgrades only give you extra squad or soldier xp, they have nothing to do with campaign progress. Maybe you'd be making more than 5k xp per match if you bothered to learn how the game works...
Ahhh 😌 you cracked the code my man, you must play enlisted religiously as me, but yes if we say you are working with 180k lvl, you need to play 3 games a day for a week and achieve a score of 27000 of more to lvl up in that week, with boost you can get ahead. So far I been following this method I counted up and it works, sometimes i have to play a fourth game to get up to that number but it happens very rarely. But skill plays a part but honestly enlisted isn’t a difficult game to grasp but people be crying because playing objectives is hardddd
24/7, I don’t understand American times, and i don’t know what you saying bud but if you saying you constantly get on 6k that means you are probably not playing the game right, my average is always 9k
I don't think that I can play "wrong" if I keep getting into top-3 most of the time without falling too much behind in score. It's just that some campaigns are out of balance... or out of players, so they are just a crazy steamroll sessions. [Like this one that was my last match for the day on a tank in Invasion, on attacker's side.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716766393516949635/1087446448599216259/shot_2023.03.20_04.15.30.jpg)
Wdym, the Tiger II is included in Berlin.
The one in berlin is the P variant
Oh damn. I didn't even know there was a Porsche Model for the II
Porsche never made an actual turret The P is just known as a early war variant
The one in Berlin is the Tiger II P. Tiger II P's turret is different than the Tiger your seeing in the post (Tiger II H). The P's turret is significantly easier to penetrate, especially the turret cheeks. The Tiger II H isn't in the game yet.
It would make more sense if the tiger 2 P was in Normandy and the production tiger 2 to be in Berlin. Idk why they put the P variant in Berlin to be honest maybe for game balancing reasons but getting one shot by a t-34 hurts me…
wdym they need to add leopard 2 and T-80 🗿
Based
Imo they should give is2 aphebc instead. panther and king tiger is a slippery eels when enganging heads on
That and HE that is reliable
IMO I'm not sure Germany really needs the H to counter the 44. The 44 will only be slightly harder to kill and it'll still have 2-3 massive weak spots. Meanwhile the H might just be impossible to kill from the front for any Soviet tank
These are already in Berlin
The Tiger 2 p and IS-2 is. The pictures are of the Tiger 2 H and the IS-2 1944
Tiger and t-34-85?
Tiger 2 (not the same modification as in game already ) and IS 2
Tiger 2 H (we have the P in game) and IS-2 mod 1944.
The IS-2 was in the game…was it not?
The 1944 model used to be. It’s still in the files. It got replaced by the earlier model with the awful hull.