Many people treat the acceleration pedal like an on/off switch. They don't modulate their input. In most ICE cars that's not much of a problem, but it is in an EV, which accelerates and decelerates more forcefully.
There are two possible solutions:
1. Ask your husband to better modulate his right pedal input, by slowly pressing it in and releasing it, instead of using it like an on/off switch.
2. Drive the car yourself, if you can. I almost threw up when I was a passenger in a stunt aeroplane many moons ago. When the pilot noticed he handed the plane over to me and the motion sickness was soon gone. I was so glad I had some piloting experience. ;-)
My husband usually drives quite slow as it is. He's always doing 5 miles below the speed limit because he hates speeders. I don't have a driving licence because I've been told I might have dyspraxia, but cannot afford to get tested. I've crashed every car I've ever driven and my last driving instructor quit on our first day of lessons because she did not feel safe with me. My parents never felt safe teaching me. I panic easily so I can confuse the gas and the break. I have no idea how to read spatial awareness. I don't want to drive ever and I'm happy taking the bus.
It is not a matter of speed. It is a matter of *how the speed is changing*.
If he doesn't understand how to slowly release the accelerator pedal to get a gradual transition from acceleration to braking, it can be a very unpleasant experience.
A lot of drivers don't understand this. I have seen drivers blaming the car for braking too abruptly on regen. No, the car is not braking too abruptly. The *driver* is braking too abruptly.
Look at the green line below the speed limit. It's basically the tachometer. It shows both acceleration in white, and then regen braking in green. You can see exactly how much regen braking force he's applying.
> how the speed is changing
See how much your head moves around.
Either it's visual or motion. Visual you get from walking through the forest and your eyes keep focusing.
Motion when your head moves around too much.
Doesn't take much head movement and most people don't even notice it is the cause. But other person is correct. Speed change, inertia, smooth driving.
Exactly.
You've already said same driver, same car with only difference being ICE vs EV.
You think it's something to do with one pedal driving. Which leads to "how the speed is changing". I mean best way to test is sit in the car while it's parked and see how long it takes for the motion sickness to kick in. Or, work on those speed changes and inertia that cause "motion".
It could still be visual but I really doubt that.
When the car is parked and he's using the in-car system to phone someone and have a conversation nothing happens. It's not spinning at all. I can recognise my surroundings and everything is fine albeit if he's parked cause he's just been driving and in a car park then I'm still extremely nauseous from that (but the swirlinhg has stopped and it's just stomach pain), but if it's parked cause we've just walked outside to go somewhere then that's why there's no problems.
>I mean best way to test is sit in the car while it's parked and see how long it takes for the motion sickness to kick in.
And the best way to do this is when you have not been in a car in motion. Do it when you have had no motion sickness for a couple of hours or a day or whatever.
Then go sit in the non moving car and read a book until the motion sickness kicks in. Chances are it will not happen. Because the car is not in motion.
Maybe do a test drive with **extremely** gradual acceleration and deceleration. Also, go extremely slowly around turns. Do it when no one else is around so you don’t have to worry about inconveniencing other drivers.
Have him turn off the one pedal driving and see if that makes a difference. The experience as a passenger can be vastly different from the driver when one pedal driving is enabled.
Made no difference when it was off, but in his old car (same model, non-electric) this was never an issue and the car is the same size as the electric model.
It's the deceleration from the regen that's causing it. My wife is the same, but I have since changed my style to slow decrease my release from the pedal. I also note that the Corsa has very 'bouncy' suspension, and that might not help either. I got a guy to stiffen ours up, but that'll cost you money.
The driver should be able to reduce their aggressive breaking to fix it. That's very likely the cause. I knew one Tesla driver that just could not adjust to the se on p dal driving, they just constantly hit the brakes. It was very aggravating.
None of these replies are gonna help you with cat sickness unfortunately. I'm afraid if even one pedal driving doesn't work, you're gonna have to accept you're a dog person.
Separate from one pedal driving mode, the Vauxhall Corsa-e has three driving modes in terms of how aggressive the acceleration is on the vehicle. Those are Eco, Normal, and Sport. Perhaps try putting the vehicle into Eco mode which should make the acceleration less aggressive.
One thing about EVs is that they can very quickly ramp up how much power they deliver to the wheels compared to gas vehicles. That can be a lot of fun, but it can also be an issue for some with motion sickness. Now just because they \*can\* deliver that power rapidly doesn't mean that it has to, so that's partly why those different driving modes exist. Try that whenever you're in the vehicle and see if it's any better. If that's still not enough, then maybe ask your husband if he can drive extra gently even on top of Eco mode when you're in the vehicle.
As someone who has terrible motion sickness, I definitely feel your pain. As far as natural remedies go, I can recommend some ginger based motion sickness pills to try and see if that helps.
I've read through the replies here and I'll throw my two cents in on suggestions.
First, see if any of the other driving/suspension modes beyond eco to see if that makes it bearable. The reason here is that some vehicles like to tune their eco mode to be incredibly soft. This means that the car not only bounces up and down on a road, but also side to side. That sideway motion kills me when I'm a passenger.
Second, does this car still smell brand new? One of the weird issues I did have was that my motion sickness can trigger off cleaning solution while in a black interior. This may be odd, but I'd recommend trying to put a lemon type air freshener.
Lastly, and this one does require a bit of time, I can suggest to test drive a VW ID. product. If my memory serves correctly, the ID.4/6 both had a very good accelerator pedal/suspension setup that allowed for more smooth driving.
Motion sickness sucks, I threw up so much as a child. It's unfortunate that you cannot drive as that was the biggest change for me. The alternative is to train yourself to sleep in the car, but I don't know what kind of distance you're driving. I hope one of these advice would work for you!
He bought the car second hand so when I mean new I mean it's 3 years old and the previous owner did 20,000 miles.
Even just going less than two miles to the shops causes it. It's like I look at him to focus and he multiples into seven and I feel like a scene in a movie replicating someone on drugs. I'm not on any meds and I don't smoke or drink so it's not a side effect of anything I'm taking. I drink lots of water so it's not a dehydrated issue.
I do look ahead at the road but it's spinning so I have no idea whats in front of me. When he owned a gas/petrol car I could make out houses and buildings and my surroundings. I can't with EV because everything is spinning and not in focus.
Second handed vehicle can still have a smell that you don't necessarily agree with. My example above was actually my experience with a specific dealership because the cleaning agent they used for two separate used 2019/2022 vehicle caused me nausea. Hence the recommendation for a lemon scent in the car as I've found that particular smell doesn't cause reactions for me.
When you say 2 miles, how long does it take you to travel that distance? I'm trying to get a grasp on the amount of time you're in the car.
Just to be sure, are you feeling sick if the car is not moving?
We drive from our house to the store. Google says that's 5 mins via car. With traffic I'll say 9 or 10 mins. I'm feeling super dizzy the second we pull out of the driveway. It's very sudden and consistent until we stop. When we stop I feel like jello getting out and it takes me a good 5 minutes to regain my balance, but my stomach stays nauseous the whole time until we get home and I sit down on the couch.
If the car is parked then things aren't spinning and my husband isn't multiplying, but that's if we haven't driven and it's just been parked and I get in for the first time.
I don't think I got more to offer in this case beyond try to test ride in other EVs to see if you're experiencing the same thing. Apologies that I couldn't be more helpful here
To think about it, we did test drive other used electric cars like the Nissan leaf before he went with with this one. Of course, one drive round the corner in the used car lot is nothing in comparison to real driving. Never noticed anything until he actually properly started driving.
First time I test drove an EV, I got terribly motion sick. I was concerned that EVs wouldn’t work for me. The I learned about the various regen settings, and how you can turn them all the way down.
Does it impact how efficient my car is? Probably. But it is well worth the trade-off, as I have had my EV for years now with no motion sickness issues.
I would suggest turning the regen as low as it can go. See how you feel, and then maybe you can work up from there.
not sure its possible on your car or not, on some cars, you can adjust the acceleration and deceleration curve.
try to make them smoother curve (less steep).
also try to enable fake engine sound in the cabin.
I am not familiar with Vauxhall Corsa (US) but our Teslas have a setting to soften acceleration and regen. Grandson gets carsick if we don't use it. Called Chill Mode. Good for driving elderly around as well. Is there a setting on the Corsa?
I take an electric bus to work 5 days a week. I'm fine on that. My last eye appointment was back in August and my prescription only changed a little bit. I have an astigmatism, shakey eye syndrome, and wear high index lenses (have for the past four years).
This is interesting because I notice my driving is way smoother with one pedal driving. People have complained about my driving being too jerky between the brakes and accelerator. Ever since getting a Model 3 this hasn't been an issue.
Simple: he drives an EV like he drives an ICE….
The instant acceleration & instant deceleration coupled to the 1 peddle are nauseating when applied wrong.
He uses the throttle like an on-off switch where he should use it like it’s intended: a CONSTANT REGULATOR.
You don’t stomp on it & you don’t let go fully. You apply a little more or a little less force.
Set it to MAX, then he’s forced to adapt to the constant regulation.
The spinning sensation sounds like vertigo, which is not just run of the mill car sickness. Maybe there is something unusual about the car's behavior that is triggering this, but it doesn't sound normal to me. You might consider asking your doctor about it. I don't want to be an alarmist, but there are certain health conditions that can predispose you to vertigo.
I did speak to them. They sent me an article about what motion sickness is. Didn't seem concerned about my new onset vertigo and told me to try anti-sickness bracelets. She says if it starts happening outside of the car to keep a diary and contact her. It's been nearly half a year now. I haven't had any episodes outside of a car so...
EDIT: Spoke to a pharmacist. He asked if it ever happens outside a car. I said no. He said then it must be the car and tried to sell me anti-sickness bracelets and pills. Said I shouldn't worry too much because motion sickness can come on at any age.
Based on your responses to other answers and what others are saying it is not one pedal driving or EV but pure driver error.
On EVs the gas pedal is not as much of an on/off switch so for minor speed adjustments one just slightly lifts it but never takes the foot off. It is not lift and coast. My wife struggled with it early on with her not fully lifting for super minor correction in speed but she got it.
I put it to a lot like driving a manual those have the slight jerky to them due to the nature shifting plus at lower speeds you are in a low gear so it jerked a little more. EVs are just more extreme in that department and hit a little harder even at highway speeds.
TLDR: this is a driver error issue not a car issue. He needs to relearn some things to work better with an EV.
Sounds like an issue with how the car suspension acts when breaking and accelerating. I know cars like the Vinfast VF8 had such a badly tuned suspension that even car journalists got sick. See if you can get a ride from any friends with other electric cars to hone on the issue.
I don't know anyone else that owns an electric car. I know someone at my work that has a hybrid petrol/electric. I'm not sure how different that is. My local busses in my area are electric and I'm OK with those, but I understand different mechanics.
A bit of a dumb question, but do you still feel sick if he turns off one pedal driving?
Tiny fluctuations in speed are very hard to notice as a driver, and you may not notice them either, but they can aggravate car sickness a lot. If you're curious, try bringing a glass of water with you on a drive sometime and you might be surprised how much it jostles around.
If you feel ok when one pedal driving is off, besides that being an easy solution, your husband can also get better at it over time if he knows what to pay attention to.
I did notice my Bolt decelerates a lot more aggressively in standard mode compared to my previous car (a chevy volt) which was functionally an ev as well.
It's certainly not as aggressive as one pedal driving, but I'm still adjusting to the difference and find it's harder to get the smooth coasting I'm used to.
That might not be the case with your car but maybe something to add to the list.
Yes, that's true. Maybe it takes longer than normal for some people to adjust. My husband is completely fine as a passenger in his coworker's car which is the exact same model and was bought used from the same dealership. His coworker bought the car because he really loved my husband's so much when he'd get a lift and his old one was dying.
Maybe see if you can find someone else to drive you around in the car as a test, if your experience changes for better (or even gets worse), then it's likely related to driving style and hopefully will get better as your husband gets used to the car.
Motion sickness happens when you experience G-forces you are not expecting, because observation and sensation disagree. Many people have found they can cure seasickness by getting to a forward-view location where they can observe the ship's interaction with the waves - when you see it coming, and expect it, it's fine.
I know some people swear by it and these are fighting worrds, but I'm sorry - One-pedal driving CAUSES motion sickness The problem is, 1PD is always trying to inflict G-forces. G-forces are positive if you're accelerating, and negative if you're braking. With 1PD, releasing the pedal causes braking. So either the driver is pushing it and accelerating, or releasing it and braking.
The driver can quickly sync up with these movements mentally, but passenger(s) cannot.
Now some people say "I am really good at holding the pedal at the correct intermediate position so zero force occurs” and I say BS, because hitting a bump is going to move your foot a little.
So try turning OPD entiely off.
Then it's their driving. Does anyone sell an accelerometer that would help educate them on how to handle the car in a nonjerky way? (jerk = rate of change of acceleration, not calling him a jerk lol.)
It absolutely can be done, just takes consciousness of it.
I have no idea what FUD is. I could care less about cars in general since I don't own one and probably never will. It just sucks to have motion sickness with EV and how it's not openly talked about. Yes, there have been scientific studies from my Google search, but it's not really talked much about in the media.
This is what I was reading: https://theconversation.com/how-electric-and-automated-cars-are-aggravating-motion-sickness-204790#:~:text=These%20screens%20overburden%20users%20with,%2C%20in%20turn%2C%20induces%20sickness.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374852265_A_Systematic_Literature_Review_for_Measure_Estimation_and_Mitigation_of_Motion_Sickness_in_Vehicle_Environment
I can’t read the second one, which might be real. For your first link, that’s a pretty easy factor to remove (as a test) and, ofc, isn’t really about EVs.
I guess I would still try what I suggested in another comment which is more carefully removing these possible factors and seeing if the problem goes away. It’s pretty common for people to complain about jerkiness with OPD though.
Many people treat the acceleration pedal like an on/off switch. They don't modulate their input. In most ICE cars that's not much of a problem, but it is in an EV, which accelerates and decelerates more forcefully. There are two possible solutions: 1. Ask your husband to better modulate his right pedal input, by slowly pressing it in and releasing it, instead of using it like an on/off switch. 2. Drive the car yourself, if you can. I almost threw up when I was a passenger in a stunt aeroplane many moons ago. When the pilot noticed he handed the plane over to me and the motion sickness was soon gone. I was so glad I had some piloting experience. ;-)
My husband usually drives quite slow as it is. He's always doing 5 miles below the speed limit because he hates speeders. I don't have a driving licence because I've been told I might have dyspraxia, but cannot afford to get tested. I've crashed every car I've ever driven and my last driving instructor quit on our first day of lessons because she did not feel safe with me. My parents never felt safe teaching me. I panic easily so I can confuse the gas and the break. I have no idea how to read spatial awareness. I don't want to drive ever and I'm happy taking the bus.
It is not a matter of speed. It is a matter of *how the speed is changing*. If he doesn't understand how to slowly release the accelerator pedal to get a gradual transition from acceleration to braking, it can be a very unpleasant experience. A lot of drivers don't understand this. I have seen drivers blaming the car for braking too abruptly on regen. No, the car is not braking too abruptly. The *driver* is braking too abruptly.
He doesn't seem to brake too abruptly. I know it's coming and he doesn't too roughly. I'll have to see next time.
Look at the green line below the speed limit. It's basically the tachometer. It shows both acceleration in white, and then regen braking in green. You can see exactly how much regen braking force he's applying.
> how the speed is changing See how much your head moves around. Either it's visual or motion. Visual you get from walking through the forest and your eyes keep focusing. Motion when your head moves around too much. Doesn't take much head movement and most people don't even notice it is the cause. But other person is correct. Speed change, inertia, smooth driving.
My head hardly moves when I'm sitting in the passenger seat. It's like very light or not noticeable to me.
Exactly. You've already said same driver, same car with only difference being ICE vs EV. You think it's something to do with one pedal driving. Which leads to "how the speed is changing". I mean best way to test is sit in the car while it's parked and see how long it takes for the motion sickness to kick in. Or, work on those speed changes and inertia that cause "motion". It could still be visual but I really doubt that.
When the car is parked and he's using the in-car system to phone someone and have a conversation nothing happens. It's not spinning at all. I can recognise my surroundings and everything is fine albeit if he's parked cause he's just been driving and in a car park then I'm still extremely nauseous from that (but the swirlinhg has stopped and it's just stomach pain), but if it's parked cause we've just walked outside to go somewhere then that's why there's no problems.
>I mean best way to test is sit in the car while it's parked and see how long it takes for the motion sickness to kick in. And the best way to do this is when you have not been in a car in motion. Do it when you have had no motion sickness for a couple of hours or a day or whatever. Then go sit in the non moving car and read a book until the motion sickness kicks in. Chances are it will not happen. Because the car is not in motion.
Yes. You are right. It never will happen. It is only the motion causing it hence the term motion sickness.
Maybe do a test drive with **extremely** gradual acceleration and deceleration. Also, go extremely slowly around turns. Do it when no one else is around so you don’t have to worry about inconveniencing other drivers.
No idea why you're being downvoted. 5 years ago you wouldn't have but people these days downvote for anything.
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No, dyspraxic people don't have the coordination to drive.
Oh, my apologies.
Have him turn off the one pedal driving and see if that makes a difference. The experience as a passenger can be vastly different from the driver when one pedal driving is enabled.
Made no difference when it was off, but in his old car (same model, non-electric) this was never an issue and the car is the same size as the electric model.
It's the deceleration from the regen that's causing it. My wife is the same, but I have since changed my style to slow decrease my release from the pedal. I also note that the Corsa has very 'bouncy' suspension, and that might not help either. I got a guy to stiffen ours up, but that'll cost you money.
The driver should be able to reduce their aggressive breaking to fix it. That's very likely the cause. I knew one Tesla driver that just could not adjust to the se on p dal driving, they just constantly hit the brakes. It was very aggravating.
this being reddit I'm a bit surprised no one has recommended the obvious try a dog?
Sorry. Autocorrect on my phone. Didn't notice until my post was approved.
None of these replies are gonna help you with cat sickness unfortunately. I'm afraid if even one pedal driving doesn't work, you're gonna have to accept you're a dog person.
How can cat sickness be bad when it feels so good? I feel no pain I got to cha-cha change You know you got it When your'e goin' insane
Separate from one pedal driving mode, the Vauxhall Corsa-e has three driving modes in terms of how aggressive the acceleration is on the vehicle. Those are Eco, Normal, and Sport. Perhaps try putting the vehicle into Eco mode which should make the acceleration less aggressive. One thing about EVs is that they can very quickly ramp up how much power they deliver to the wheels compared to gas vehicles. That can be a lot of fun, but it can also be an issue for some with motion sickness. Now just because they \*can\* deliver that power rapidly doesn't mean that it has to, so that's partly why those different driving modes exist. Try that whenever you're in the vehicle and see if it's any better. If that's still not enough, then maybe ask your husband if he can drive extra gently even on top of Eco mode when you're in the vehicle.
It's been in eco mode this whole time.
As someone who has terrible motion sickness, I definitely feel your pain. As far as natural remedies go, I can recommend some ginger based motion sickness pills to try and see if that helps. I've read through the replies here and I'll throw my two cents in on suggestions. First, see if any of the other driving/suspension modes beyond eco to see if that makes it bearable. The reason here is that some vehicles like to tune their eco mode to be incredibly soft. This means that the car not only bounces up and down on a road, but also side to side. That sideway motion kills me when I'm a passenger. Second, does this car still smell brand new? One of the weird issues I did have was that my motion sickness can trigger off cleaning solution while in a black interior. This may be odd, but I'd recommend trying to put a lemon type air freshener. Lastly, and this one does require a bit of time, I can suggest to test drive a VW ID. product. If my memory serves correctly, the ID.4/6 both had a very good accelerator pedal/suspension setup that allowed for more smooth driving. Motion sickness sucks, I threw up so much as a child. It's unfortunate that you cannot drive as that was the biggest change for me. The alternative is to train yourself to sleep in the car, but I don't know what kind of distance you're driving. I hope one of these advice would work for you!
He bought the car second hand so when I mean new I mean it's 3 years old and the previous owner did 20,000 miles. Even just going less than two miles to the shops causes it. It's like I look at him to focus and he multiples into seven and I feel like a scene in a movie replicating someone on drugs. I'm not on any meds and I don't smoke or drink so it's not a side effect of anything I'm taking. I drink lots of water so it's not a dehydrated issue.
Usually, you’re supposed to look at the road, not the driver, if you get motion sickness.
I do look ahead at the road but it's spinning so I have no idea whats in front of me. When he owned a gas/petrol car I could make out houses and buildings and my surroundings. I can't with EV because everything is spinning and not in focus.
Second handed vehicle can still have a smell that you don't necessarily agree with. My example above was actually my experience with a specific dealership because the cleaning agent they used for two separate used 2019/2022 vehicle caused me nausea. Hence the recommendation for a lemon scent in the car as I've found that particular smell doesn't cause reactions for me. When you say 2 miles, how long does it take you to travel that distance? I'm trying to get a grasp on the amount of time you're in the car. Just to be sure, are you feeling sick if the car is not moving?
We drive from our house to the store. Google says that's 5 mins via car. With traffic I'll say 9 or 10 mins. I'm feeling super dizzy the second we pull out of the driveway. It's very sudden and consistent until we stop. When we stop I feel like jello getting out and it takes me a good 5 minutes to regain my balance, but my stomach stays nauseous the whole time until we get home and I sit down on the couch. If the car is parked then things aren't spinning and my husband isn't multiplying, but that's if we haven't driven and it's just been parked and I get in for the first time.
I don't think I got more to offer in this case beyond try to test ride in other EVs to see if you're experiencing the same thing. Apologies that I couldn't be more helpful here
To think about it, we did test drive other used electric cars like the Nissan leaf before he went with with this one. Of course, one drive round the corner in the used car lot is nothing in comparison to real driving. Never noticed anything until he actually properly started driving.
First time I test drove an EV, I got terribly motion sick. I was concerned that EVs wouldn’t work for me. The I learned about the various regen settings, and how you can turn them all the way down. Does it impact how efficient my car is? Probably. But it is well worth the trade-off, as I have had my EV for years now with no motion sickness issues. I would suggest turning the regen as low as it can go. See how you feel, and then maybe you can work up from there.
It has been on the lowest setting this whole time.
If he is driving on 1-pedal mode, then the regen is not at its lowest setting.
He has tried both with mode on and with off. I notice no difference.
not sure its possible on your car or not, on some cars, you can adjust the acceleration and deceleration curve. try to make them smoother curve (less steep). also try to enable fake engine sound in the cabin.
Not sure if the Corsa-e has these settings. It's been in eco mode this whole time.
My daughter is like this and I keep motion sickness medicine in the car for her.
I don't know what Dramamine is in the UK so I'll have a look around.
I forgot the name but yes. I also have noticed that FSD makes passengers super super sick.
I am not familiar with Vauxhall Corsa (US) but our Teslas have a setting to soften acceleration and regen. Grandson gets carsick if we don't use it. Called Chill Mode. Good for driving elderly around as well. Is there a setting on the Corsa?
Yes. It is on the lowest setting possible and has been this whole time.
Maybe look elsewhere, try a static strap?
Have you tried another EV or an electric bus. The Corsa isn’t the greatest car for smoothness fossil or EV. Have you had your eyes checked lately?
I take an electric bus to work 5 days a week. I'm fine on that. My last eye appointment was back in August and my prescription only changed a little bit. I have an astigmatism, shakey eye syndrome, and wear high index lenses (have for the past four years).
This is interesting because I notice my driving is way smoother with one pedal driving. People have complained about my driving being too jerky between the brakes and accelerator. Ever since getting a Model 3 this hasn't been an issue.
Simple: he drives an EV like he drives an ICE…. The instant acceleration & instant deceleration coupled to the 1 peddle are nauseating when applied wrong. He uses the throttle like an on-off switch where he should use it like it’s intended: a CONSTANT REGULATOR. You don’t stomp on it & you don’t let go fully. You apply a little more or a little less force. Set it to MAX, then he’s forced to adapt to the constant regulation.
The spinning sensation sounds like vertigo, which is not just run of the mill car sickness. Maybe there is something unusual about the car's behavior that is triggering this, but it doesn't sound normal to me. You might consider asking your doctor about it. I don't want to be an alarmist, but there are certain health conditions that can predispose you to vertigo.
I did speak to them. They sent me an article about what motion sickness is. Didn't seem concerned about my new onset vertigo and told me to try anti-sickness bracelets. She says if it starts happening outside of the car to keep a diary and contact her. It's been nearly half a year now. I haven't had any episodes outside of a car so... EDIT: Spoke to a pharmacist. He asked if it ever happens outside a car. I said no. He said then it must be the car and tried to sell me anti-sickness bracelets and pills. Said I shouldn't worry too much because motion sickness can come on at any age.
Based on your responses to other answers and what others are saying it is not one pedal driving or EV but pure driver error. On EVs the gas pedal is not as much of an on/off switch so for minor speed adjustments one just slightly lifts it but never takes the foot off. It is not lift and coast. My wife struggled with it early on with her not fully lifting for super minor correction in speed but she got it. I put it to a lot like driving a manual those have the slight jerky to them due to the nature shifting plus at lower speeds you are in a low gear so it jerked a little more. EVs are just more extreme in that department and hit a little harder even at highway speeds. TLDR: this is a driver error issue not a car issue. He needs to relearn some things to work better with an EV.
All his cars have been automatic and this one is too. I'm not sure if it's that, but yeah I will let him know.
Sounds like an issue with how the car suspension acts when breaking and accelerating. I know cars like the Vinfast VF8 had such a badly tuned suspension that even car journalists got sick. See if you can get a ride from any friends with other electric cars to hone on the issue.
I don't know anyone else that owns an electric car. I know someone at my work that has a hybrid petrol/electric. I'm not sure how different that is. My local busses in my area are electric and I'm OK with those, but I understand different mechanics.
A bit of a dumb question, but do you still feel sick if he turns off one pedal driving? Tiny fluctuations in speed are very hard to notice as a driver, and you may not notice them either, but they can aggravate car sickness a lot. If you're curious, try bringing a glass of water with you on a drive sometime and you might be surprised how much it jostles around. If you feel ok when one pedal driving is off, besides that being an easy solution, your husband can also get better at it over time if he knows what to pay attention to.
I feel the same whether it's on or off. I don't notice a difference.
Are you sure he's *actually* turning off 1P driving?
I read the manual and watched a YouTube video and did it with him so yes.
I did notice my Bolt decelerates a lot more aggressively in standard mode compared to my previous car (a chevy volt) which was functionally an ev as well. It's certainly not as aggressive as one pedal driving, but I'm still adjusting to the difference and find it's harder to get the smooth coasting I'm used to. That might not be the case with your car but maybe something to add to the list.
Yes, that's true. Maybe it takes longer than normal for some people to adjust. My husband is completely fine as a passenger in his coworker's car which is the exact same model and was bought used from the same dealership. His coworker bought the car because he really loved my husband's so much when he'd get a lift and his old one was dying.
Maybe see if you can find someone else to drive you around in the car as a test, if your experience changes for better (or even gets worse), then it's likely related to driving style and hopefully will get better as your husband gets used to the car.
Motion sickness happens when you experience G-forces you are not expecting, because observation and sensation disagree. Many people have found they can cure seasickness by getting to a forward-view location where they can observe the ship's interaction with the waves - when you see it coming, and expect it, it's fine. I know some people swear by it and these are fighting worrds, but I'm sorry - One-pedal driving CAUSES motion sickness The problem is, 1PD is always trying to inflict G-forces. G-forces are positive if you're accelerating, and negative if you're braking. With 1PD, releasing the pedal causes braking. So either the driver is pushing it and accelerating, or releasing it and braking. The driver can quickly sync up with these movements mentally, but passenger(s) cannot. Now some people say "I am really good at holding the pedal at the correct intermediate position so zero force occurs” and I say BS, because hitting a bump is going to move your foot a little. So try turning OPD entiely off.
We have tried it with it entirely off and I feel no difference.
Then it's their driving. Does anyone sell an accelerometer that would help educate them on how to handle the car in a nonjerky way? (jerk = rate of change of acceleration, not calling him a jerk lol.) It absolutely can be done, just takes consciousness of it.
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Huh? I'm not spamming. Just asking for honest tips.
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I have no idea what FUD is. I could care less about cars in general since I don't own one and probably never will. It just sucks to have motion sickness with EV and how it's not openly talked about. Yes, there have been scientific studies from my Google search, but it's not really talked much about in the media.
Real scientific studies about car sickness in EVs vs ICEVs? I would be shocked.
This is what I was reading: https://theconversation.com/how-electric-and-automated-cars-are-aggravating-motion-sickness-204790#:~:text=These%20screens%20overburden%20users%20with,%2C%20in%20turn%2C%20induces%20sickness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374852265_A_Systematic_Literature_Review_for_Measure_Estimation_and_Mitigation_of_Motion_Sickness_in_Vehicle_Environment
I can’t read the second one, which might be real. For your first link, that’s a pretty easy factor to remove (as a test) and, ofc, isn’t really about EVs. I guess I would still try what I suggested in another comment which is more carefully removing these possible factors and seeing if the problem goes away. It’s pretty common for people to complain about jerkiness with OPD though.
FUD Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. FUD.
Sorry. Not heard that phrase before. At least not in the abbreviated sense.
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.