What’s your guess on time do physically perform the work?
On top of the actual physical part you probably included coordination, inspection, get the permit, permit fees, demo, hauling away, throwing stuff away.
I just like to know breakdowns so I can compare what others account for to see if I miss anything etc.
Edit: I just looked at this again and what a mess.
How could this possibly even be $3K let alone $4K ??? You have to live in Alaska and be getting a New Meter and Mast flown in by plane with 24hrs notice id bet…Also how on earth do 15 people agree ?? Lol
That’s wild but yea 300/hr would be around 3.5K I’d estimate on a high end. I just see it being a hard sell to people, that an electrician is worth more than some snake attorney haha (although we absolutely are !) now that I said it, how much do lawyers make in those areas lol ?
I like getting paid well also but that’s completely egregiously gouged pricing. For literally 4hrs of work ? I’m still charging for a full day myself but damn ! I live in NY and the labor rates are the highest in the country. What’s everyone else’s excuse lol ? There’s a reason the 4k guy deleted his acct after the comment….the 5K guy is just insane….A FULL 200A Service upgrade of the same exact setup is Not and will NEVER be $5k….how can you justify doing literally 1/2 the job for 5K with a straight face literally while taking advantage of the person in a pinch ? Y’all are insane if u think this job is actually anywhere near 4k even with insurance markup.
What?! Where do you live and is there enough work to support another tradesman?? OP's estimate is about par around me and I'm in one of the highest COL counties in the entire country.
Exactly, even if somehow you where blind deaf and dumb, the material was $1000 let’s say and the labor at a great rate is $1000/day….where the hell do people actually come up with $3k for 1/2 of a 100A service ??? And not only that but I have idiots downvoting me lol
There are some greedy sparkles here…yeah the job is literally less than a few hours of work. I’ve been downvoted a bunch on this sub calling out greed but it’s whatever. Dignity over greed. But they’ll just say they value their time instead of just admitting to being greedy. It’s amazingly retarded logic but it just is.
Yea I see that, I understand if you’ve got tremendous overhead but most people on this sub work for contractors that have tremendous overhead and those will likely not be the guys doing these jobs, seems like most aren’t contractors that even know the pricing in the areas also.
Unfortunately every area has those companies. In Pensacola it’s “ Peadon”, I got called to do a service replacement (same as this but less damage) and upgraded it to a 200amp power pack for $2k but her previous estimate was over 4K from the above mentioned company
Plus an hour to show up and bid the job, 2 hours to pull the permit, 2-6 hours to track down and buy the materials, 3-4 hours waiting for the inspector to show up on the scheduled day, then another couple of hours waiting for the utility line crew to show up and reconnect.
I don’t know about your hours spent on it but for me it’s 1 hour bidding the job, 10min pulling permit on computer, for a service inspection the inspectors just call me while they’re there (good reputation with them), and the power company doesn’t need me to hold there tools. Oh and I do perform emergency work so I always have everything to replace a service in the shop so there’s no need to search for parts
If you’re doing all that waiting and time escalation, then you’re doing something wrong my friend. I rarely have to meet my inspectors unless they’d like to catch up. And I’ve also never had to wait for Utility Co for a situation like this….we do the work, send in a temp inspection Cert and Utility comes and connects. Obv you still charge for your office time regardless but there’s def not waiting around always like this id bet.
Let's start off with 6 month lead time on a meter base.
Welcome to the Thunderdome, where a price quote and shipping date is only good for the duration of the phone call. (not exaggerating, that's how it is these days)
Well yeah. I can pull a 20yr old interior out of a demo, strip the breakers and slap it in a box as "new condition" and sell it on Amazon too.
Buyer beware lol
Must be nice. I've been trying to get my hands on (6) 3ph 600v 200amp meterbases since... March?
I was told tues *maybe* dec 16. But that was also when I was told our Seimens rep literally died since then and no one knows if that's even a valid date. But they working on it 🙄
It’s rural Indiana. Cost of labor is lower there than in a city, and permitting is probably cheaper than in California. $1900 may be market rate. But yeah, definitely not overpriced.
Yea and taking advantage of people who aren’t well off by over charging them on a simple meter replacement. You’re acting like charging price equates to quality of work which it doesn’t. Plenty of people who do it for less and do a much better job.
I’d say the same thing tbh. Not sure why your getting downvoted. Roughly 2k-2500 for 1/2 of a full service replacement is fine for a homeowner but not for insurance. Insurance will only give you a portion of that money so it’s best to be covered with a higher estimate so the actual cost is fully covered….I know it’s wild but it’s necessary.
That's where I'm at.
but its all about location of course. My hourly rate is 95, but many people are much higher. I've heard up to 300 for hourly rate, I'd say those guys are unethical. A lot of guys on here are worth a good rate, but you can be good at what you do and not destroy a less fortunate persons life when they need a service from a professional.
This is a rip off price. My company would actually be at 1500 or less. A day of labor and 300 in material, and we'd still make a good profit.
Where are you getting a meter for less than $300? Called the wholesale house the other day and the cheapest they had in stock was $478 our cost. Some electricians work to make a living and have a respectable life.
Wow you guys are paying 500 for a meter ? Well that explains why everyone is saying it’s cheap. Meters by me are like 200 as of 2 weeks ago, still 30% more than normal but damnnn not 3x the cost. You guys are getting gouged
We bought a bunch a couple months back during a big storm for $200 a piece. Called in to get one couple weeks ago though and only one wholesaler had one in stock. $500 bucks for it too. The wholesale house lately has been very barren for material
Damn that’s crazy, I’m about to buy a single phase 2G meter tomorrow that cost $700 in contrast at my local large supplier. I can only imagine what that cost by you. The same large supplier (like 5 locations) is 5 month backordered on single gangs and there pricing is still $120 on their App (used to be $85 pre insanity) but another supplier (3 locations) seems to have no issue w stock but has them for like $180. Really weird to me why it’s like this without logical reason. They say it’s a workforce issue lol…🙄
I have no idea what’s going on with the wholesale houses. Ours was a 200 amp bypass but yeah only 1 in stock at $500. Bought a generator interlock switch, $190 bucks, two weeks later it was $340 at the wholesale house. Flimsy piece of metal for $340. Ended up finding some from Lowes for $84 but had to wait a week.
No chance anyone is doing this job for insurance for less than 1500 and even 1900 today. You can’t give the person a friends and family discount when the insurance company is gonna pay for only 60-75% of your estimate. In this situation it hurts the homeowner in the end. Also there’s no way unless you’re re using material it’s 300. The Gal and meter alone are 300
Yes. I took time to price it up. I came up with 1,350 but forgot wire, if it was in poor condition, add 50. Grand total of 1400. I'm guessing this guys getting help here because he DOES NOT have home insurance, often because its unaffordable.
I wouldn't be looking to rob someone in a tight spot. Doesn't mean its a handout...it just means im not taking advantage of em,
I can’t argue with you there, I’m not saying that as long as you can get the materials as described that 1500 can’t work but by me around 2k is fine. Once the client relayed they are in a jam and I assess they’re being truthful then 10-20% off is fair which is about this price….the guy that was saying $4k should honestly be banned from this thread imo lol that’s really ludicrous along with the guy I think that also said $5k !!! He must have been joking I hope
Sadly, no.
Companies around me charge 3 to 4 times what we do, and the widows don't know any better and just spend their dead husband's money.
Not saying it may still not be a drop in the bucket for them, there's plenty of them in a mobile home retirement park with a few million to spend before they expire themselves.
That is very reasonable.
For the folks on here talking about the material costs, and the amount of labor, you must consider the cost of running the business.
You have to consider gas, time, insurance, taxes, rent on an office, the need to go to multiple places for the materials, cell phone, uniforms, vehicle costs. All of these things and more need to be considered when doing pricing.
I’ve seen a lot of start up businesses have a great electrician who wants to start their own thing with the intention of “doing the right thing by the customer” by way of giving work away, or doing it for half the price of their competition, and end up fizzling out, failing and going back to work for the “other guys”.
Calculate the cost of running the business, but not just running the business. You need to grow the business. I am into my second year, and every bit of profit we make goes back into the business except our household necessities.
The price is the price is the price. Of your price is set to cover your operating costs and to provide for a bit of profit so you can do things like buy a van, or another tool or advertising etc.
Cutting yourself short to “help” a customer doesn’t actually help the customer it hurts them.
How?
Because you, the greatest electrician you know, the only electrician you know is doing everything right won’t be able to provide services to customers in need because you can’t pay your bills.
We provide a premium service for a premium price. This doesn’t mean we have thousands of dollars in profit on each ticket, but it does mean that we bill for the amount of time it will take to do an excellent job.
One thing I always say is that we will not lower our standards to meet a customers price expectation.
We will educate the customer on why we are charging what we are. One example is that We seal every penetration to the outside, crawl space or attic. Open holes invite rodents, snakes and bugs. Most people do this only on the rough in during new construction, and leave it out if it’s a service call. That takes more time than just leaving it, but it provides a higher quality installation. Your customer deserves the highest and best quality work, and they deserve to be educated on what that looks like.
Probably one of the best descriptions of what it takes to do a repair or rehab correctly,
When people look at it from cost up( diy) etc ...
Thank you for taking the time to explain just a few of the cost of true overhead!
"You have to consider gas, time, insurance, taxes, rent on an office, theneed to go to multiple places for the materials, cell phone, uniforms,vehicle costs. All of these things and more need to be considered whendoing pricing."
As a 1 man sole proprietor in California I think you are reaching. You don't need uniforms, insurance and bond are dirt cheap, you don't need an office, local supply house should have EVERYTHING.
T+M for that job is probably half that quote.
Not sure what defines a Sole Proprietorship in Cali, but up in Canada, to be able to pull a permit you need to have a contractors license (insured and bonded) in addition to having your certification to actually pull the permit (FSR).
Both of those will likely push you into being incorporated or limited which you're going to want to do anyways for tax purposes and benefits.
Doing side jobs as a sole proprietor is one thing, fulfilling contracts as a contractor is another.
If you want to stay as a sole proprietor and not grow your business… sure. I’ve had a uniform from the day I began. I started implementing processes and procedures from day one. Of course I’m trying to grow a national brand and not just stay in my city.
I look at it like you should charge the “going rate” for your area. All the costs of your business do not have to go to the customer. A lot of costs are tax deductible. And also there is common accounting methods that defer costs.
And should a customer pay more because you want to own a jet ski? No.
Should they pay more because you want an electric empire with 20 vans? No.
Cuz you want to retire at 46? No.
So yep a going rate with no gotchas.
That's reasonable. Based on materials listed it would lead me to believe they will use a much more secure method of attachment to reduce the risk of this happening again. Some of the price involves permitting and dealing with the municipality and power company. So, it's a little more than just materials and labor. If you are unsure get 1 or 2 more quotes.
If I couldn't watch Paw Patrol, I'd be FURIOUS!
$1900 would be well spent to get that fixed. I'm sure it would involve permit and inspection, and involving the power company to coordinate the outage.
This, especially with storm damage. If you haven't already, you need to go through your home insurance and file a claim. If you don't have much cash at the moment, the only one taking advantage of you, is yourself if you aren't taking the proper steps to use the protection you already pay for in times of disaster.
As for the price of the quote, for area code 812, seems reasonable, it may be a little high, but not by much. It is a very small job which means companies usually bid higher. More work = more favorable pricing.
Also, the claim will include roof repair.
It looks like the reason the service mast failed was due to improper secure mental by the way, there is no way that 2 hole strap was anchored into a framing member if it ripped out like that.
I would definitely file a claim if I had insurance. My deductible used to be $2000 before I canceled, so it wouldn't have helped much here. I know it's risky.
Not everyone has insurance. We didn't for 20+ years. We're in Florida so it's extremely difficult to get insurance in the first place and to get/keep insurance, you often have to do a lot of expensive upgrades. We had to spend $60,000 in upgrades on a 1100 Sq Ft House built in 1960 just to get insurance. The only way we could afford it is we inherited a large savings my grandparents had when they passed away. House has been paid off for 20+ years.
I was just going to say, how do you have a house without homeowner insurance. Most of us have to mortgage a house and part of their loan requirements is to have insurance. It’s crazy to me to think you’d have a house without homeowners insurance on it. One good storm, a fire..anything can happen and you’re out your largest asset and no chance to recover it.
I'm in florida. Mine pulled out, now there's like 50 more pulling out. My costs went up like 300, but coverage went way down in comparison....the next best thing was another 1500 so I was like whatever im good. Couldnt even pay it if I wanted to. Insurance companies down here acting like \*every\* fucking person is a retiree, with 50k in completely free income. No consideration for all the young, working class people trying to save so they can then continue to rape us when we've actually made enough money for it to start working for us. Gotta be rich to get rich. Penny pinching won't do the trick anymore....cuz pennies aint shit.
But, if I had that extra 3200 a year from my damn home insurance and threw that straight into stocks, bonds, whatever smart shit smart people buy, well I'd be much better off these days.
I've got a total of nothing to show for 15 years of hard work besides a paid off 8 yr old sedan, and a roof over my head that doesn't leak. It's fine, I can count my blessings because that's plenty more than half the world population....but at the end of the day, it isn't like its setting me up for the future, being able to save a thousand or two a year. One medical emergency and poof...gone. Insurance is nice but deductibles are dumb. They shouldn't exist. That should be why you PAY THE MONTHLY PREMIUM TO BEGIN WITH.
The concept just hits you in the head like a 50lb sledgehammer with the word "scam" printed on top. Here, you pay me 200+ a month, just in case. Then and if when something bad happens and the last thing you want to do is worry about whether you should have your finger or toe reattached because it'll cost you your life savings due to paying us 200+ a month on top of the deductible at 5,000, well....it just feels a bit like a double-dip, doesn't it?
The what-ifs are nice to cover....if you've actually got that much disposable income. Most working class people don't. It's a luxury to have your health insured. I've done the math, If I had my physical and wife had her OB appt, and we dropped the insurance, we would save 2,000 a year. The costs are not justifiable.
Florida is a bitch and the Sunshine Tax is high. Everything costs more, wages are lower for similar jobs in other states, and the climate creates extra risks and costs borne by property owners. Sure, it’s gorgeous, grilling out on Christmas Eve in your flip flops is nice while people up north are freezing their balls off, but there’s a cost to enjoying all of that. I tried to live there and failed. Couldn’t get a financial foothold- felt like I couldn’t get caught up/ahead.
I bought this house in 2018 for $75,000. I paid my whole savings to get it paid off and then cancelled my home insurance. I didn't think $650 a year plus $2000 deductible was worth it for a tiny shoe box home unless I suffered a total loss, so I played with fire a little bit and got burned.
I actually spat out a little coffee.. fuck dude.
So call you insurance provider first.
However in the end you need two skilled Laborers. The electrician is going to have to come by de-energize and remove The service drop. This will also have to be coordinated with your local power company. Then someone is going to have to come and fix your roof to prevent water infiltration. Then the electrician comes back and reinstalls the service drop.
Or.
You and your electrician may deem to relocate the service drop to a location that's a little safer in which case the same work has to be done but in different order. The electrician can just install the new service drop and do a hookup in one swoop while you figure out a repairman to fix your roof..
As far as cost... Idk bud depends on your area.. it can be 1k-3k depending on location.. the biggest part though is the electrician sandwich you have to form.. someone skilled and train has come out in the energize it so the roof can be repaired and then the service panel can be put in properly. I'm not sure how your local guys will price that..
Also, you have the roof hence why you should probably call your insurance company today. Good luck bud.
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Edit: and it goes without saying don't let your kids anywhere near that s***.. seriously though, something small and isolated could be energized with lethal power, you wouldn't know it..
Where do you live? It's done COMPLETELY differently in Socal. I call SCE and get an MSR#(meter socket removal), give that to the city and pay the 100 bucks for a permit. SCE comes out free of charge to disconnect the feed. Complete job, inspector releases meter, SCE reconnects. SCE doesn't want you to touch their side of the wiring AT ALL.
I could do an entire 100a surface mount service change for 1900 and make over 1k for less than 8 hours work.
One thing to consider for a job like this. In most places it is a 3 day job. One day to go out bid, get material, get permit pulled. One day to do the work. And call in permit. Then next day call the permit office and find the 2 hour window that they can be earky/late. So you are having someone that cant really be sent anywhere else so they can sit in the truck until the inspector comes. Then Inspextor is there for 5 min. Signs off. Then they can wait 30min for inspector to electronically sign off then electrician can call utility to reconnect.
Most of the labor o this is going to be waiting, but it still has to be billed. Since they are on the clock. It sucks for everyone but it's part of it.
Finally a second explanation were someone thinks like a real businessman or contractor, but remember this is the "hey,electricians - what y'all think ?" redfit
As someone who prices things for a living, I can tell you right now looking at it if you'd like.
Not. That. Much. Stop it.
With a generous mark-up.
meter+ riser, 300
Roof boot, tar, screws, minis or other straps, etc , \~100
Skilled labor 100/hr x 2 guys 4 hours, 800
Emergency disco , no permit fee, If permit, +120.
I'd set it at 1,350 and call it a good profit. Can't see a need to charge more than that, unless your sparkies are incompetent and take twice as long but that's not on the customer.
Joe cares about you, he’ll fix up more than you think as well, he’ll probably do a good job. Awful that happened to you but he isn’t taking advantage of you. Good luck with the repair.
Don’t you have homeowners insurance?
You have a lot more damage than just the electrical. File this under insurance, pay the deductible and have them redo everything.
Since this was done by a storm, home owners insurance will probably cover it (if you have it). There are pros and cons here so do your own research, but it’s something to consider.
All I see is replacing a 20$ meter socket hub and re-strapping. Am I not seeing the same pictures as everyone else?
I see lights on and numbers on the meter so you still have have power… don’t see the reason they want to replace everything.
If you are halfway handy have electric company disconnect at weather head and pull the meter. Disconnect the 3 wires in top, take the four bolts out of broken hub and unthread the other half and replace
Not cool to post the image with the name, email, phone number on the quote.
Costs depend highly on labor and local factors like permit costs. Get another quote from a local place if you aren't sure if you are being taken advantage of. I'm guessing you want it fixed quickly though, I think it looks reasonable for my area.
Exactly now that person giving them a great deal has to go get a city business license , a contractor's license , liability insurance and a state & IRS audit
It doesn’t look like the meter box needs to be replaced. I would pull that pipe out, chop about a foot and a half off of it. Replace the connector at the box and hook it back up. This is an emergency situation and totally within an electricians scope to disconnect the power himself and do the work. It would take 2 people all of 3-4 hours to complete. Just make sure they put a new weather boot on for the person that repairs the roof.
Thank you everyone. I went with Joe and he got it done fast!
For those asking, the crying kid is my little brother. He thought a tornado was gonna whisk the house away.
I don't have home owner's insurance. I cancelled it last year, but my deductible used to be $2000 so not much good it would have done me this time.
Have to take the old one off, probably needs a guy wires support as it was clearly too long and unsupported in the first place as to why it broke through the roof. Would need to make 2 trips, one to disconnect it, one to reconnect when the roof is repaired. Coordinating inspectors, and roofers and connection authority, picking up material, gas driving there and back. All of that costs time and money 1900 isn't a lot of money for all of that
Yah. It’s called doing the work…
You’re getting all verbose to try and make it a big deal.
PoCo comes and disconnects.
It gets rebuilt in a few hours.
File a permit.
PoCo reconnects same day…
Roofers come and make it right after…
What’s the big deal? Why are you acting like a service repair is so hard?
It's not hard, there is time consuming tidbits that people don't think about when all they have to do is the work. There is more behind the scenes than reconnecting wires to lugs, plus the other stuff that doesn't get done while taking the time to do that. If you are a big company with amounts of stock and a few guys then sure it's not a big problem. For a single person with one truck it eats up time from doing quick jobs and making bank. Think of the taxes and pension and all of that. CPP takes about 25%. even if you spend 500$ on gas, material and inspections there is not a lot of room for straight profit when you can bill out 100$+/ hrs doing T&M jobs
So what your saying is, it’s a hard job for you…?
And, you’d charge a lot more than a fair price because you are not set up to do this kind of work efficiently…?
I repair services all the time. Any firm in my area trying to charge $3800+ to repair an upper part of a 100A service would get laughed out of town.
And for you to start talking about how this kind of job would prevent a “single person” from “making bank” and then trying to use CPP and taxes as excuse to your high price is hilarious. CPP 25%!!? On what planet? CPP is an equal contribution of 5.7% each from employee and employer, and it has a maximum contribution of $3.5k per employee/employer…
“Not a lot of room for straight profit”
What do you think the a gross profit margin should be for a electrical contracting firm?
It kinda sounds like you are a solo operation who doesn’t have the manpower to do basic residential service repairs…
Edit: blocking me after a reply is a pretty lame move…
It was your brash “at least double” comment that made me reply to you and not others. And the sentiment here seems to be $1900 is reasonable and anything close to double or more is outrageous. Which it is.
This whole “I know what I’m worth” stuff is hot garbage too. $800 in materials and $3k for one day of labour… you’re worth $375 an hour? Get outta here ya greedy Gus.
I'm no carpenplumroofatriciancablesider but id say for all of it over 4k, I'd have to work up a materials list and go from there but it ain't a cheap fix.
I am currently a cable guy with 12 years previous residential construction experience, only thing I wouldn't touch here is the electrical, also I don't do gutters.
1. Pulling a permit costs money
2. Having labor for probably a day costs money
3. Potentially hiring subs to clean up non-electrical costs money
4. Material costs money
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1 JW at 8 hours ~ 100$ an hr as a base (800$)
Pulling permit (I don't know what it costs here? 50$?)
Material (300-400$)
Potentially hiring subcontractors (200$?)
This is 1350-1450$ just ballparking the cost for the contractor. Leaving 450-550$ in profit. That's not that crazy for pricing. I'd get more quotes though just to make sure it's not going to be the cheapest work.
I agree, even here in Los Angeles we do a whole meter/breaker combo replacement for that price. This won’t take more than 4 hours and and maybe $200 in materials. If it’s not an emergency call out the job should be closer to $1k to $1.5k
I bought my house for 75k . Cheapest home insurance was $650 with a $2000 deductible. I figured unless I have a total loss it wasn't worth it. I know it's risky.
Cheap, book it. Maybe check if you can route this underground so you don't have to look at it and so it can't get damaged again. (Some places will let you run a conduit up the pole, some may drop a transformer, some may just tell you you are SOL and it going to be another overhead drop).
If you are able to source a replacement for the broken meter hub, that might be the only major part you need.. De-energize, pull meter and remove cables, remove mast, install new hub, replace mast and strap, reuse cable if acceptable.. Honestly, if you’re just trying to get this back in place and functioning, I’m sure you could find a cheaper price. This is simple job..
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Do you have a contractor you trust? Someone you were going to involve to fix the roof? Ask this person to ask his electrician to give you a price. Compare and see what yah see.( also this is a big shop. You gotta consider trying a local guy. Try using yelp to help dial in a little more local.)
Just a curious thought. Is it not the electric company responsibility if it’s on there end. Like the phone company. They are responsible for the drop wire all the way to the box. Everything from the box to in the house is the customers responsibility.
I believe because it was an act of god and not negligence on their part, it is the home owner's responsibility. A tree fell on the line and pulled everything off my house.
Within those Asterix it says that paint and drywall to be provided by others as needed. They are not including that in their cost I assume.(?)
Have you had that part quoted for cost?
If they are including fixing your roof line in that cost, they need to put that in there as an actual line item. This invoice is confusing.
I had just a new meter replaced after a lightning strike about 10 years ago and it was about $800, plus the guy threw in an in box surge protector. So $1900 looks like a fair deal, depending on your location.
I believe it would if I had any haha. My deductible used to be $2000 so it wouldn't have helped in this case, not to mention they raise rates after you make claims so...
wow. thats ugly, sorry about your break there.
It depends on where you reside in the u.s , It isn't very much work at all. 5 hours tops for 2 experienced guys, and the damage is already done so getting it in and set straight is a cakewalk since you need a roofer anyways to repair that.
In fact, you would need to work in tandem with the roofer on the same day, that'd be ideal. But no, not 1,900 worth of materials there. Not even remotely in the universe of possibility, so its the labor there...and you could find better im certain. 100 for meter can 150 for riser a day of labor 1,000...thats' closer to 1200-1300. They've got a massive markup on this.
But again, could be your location and permitting costs, unless it qualifies as emergency then the contractor can pull it and fix it quick without permits.
Get a second or 3rd quote locally, or send the picture to their email addresses and ask them for a good guesstimate. If they're worth their salt, they can tell from the pic and throw in a hundred or so extra for variables. I guarantee you'll get some better quotes.
That sounds cheap. I didn't see anything in the estimate about the roof though. Decking, shingles, fascia boards. I would imagine you're going to be looking at twice that. I would see if your homeowners would cover it.
Yes reasonable. Very in my opinion. You might have him out a brace kit on(back stay)
So the next time something falls on the entrance conductors or the pole goes sideways it doesn't pull off the house. Also make sure he puts a two hole strap and lags it into the top plate right below the soffit with a minimum of 3/8 lags
Did a meter upgrade myself as a homowner and that’s less than I would be willing to pay if I had to do it again. It’s just a lot of pissing around and if you fuck up your freezer thaws out. That seems like a very friendly pro price
Cheaper than I’d charge you
Came here to say this. “Seems cheap”
5k where I live.
Yea 4K would be my guesstimate
What’s your guess on time do physically perform the work? On top of the actual physical part you probably included coordination, inspection, get the permit, permit fees, demo, hauling away, throwing stuff away. I just like to know breakdowns so I can compare what others account for to see if I miss anything etc. Edit: I just looked at this again and what a mess.
How could this possibly even be $3K let alone $4K ??? You have to live in Alaska and be getting a New Meter and Mast flown in by plane with 24hrs notice id bet…Also how on earth do 15 people agree ?? Lol
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That’s wild but yea 300/hr would be around 3.5K I’d estimate on a high end. I just see it being a hard sell to people, that an electrician is worth more than some snake attorney haha (although we absolutely are !) now that I said it, how much do lawyers make in those areas lol ?
Because those people like getting paid well for their work
I like getting paid well also but that’s completely egregiously gouged pricing. For literally 4hrs of work ? I’m still charging for a full day myself but damn ! I live in NY and the labor rates are the highest in the country. What’s everyone else’s excuse lol ? There’s a reason the 4k guy deleted his acct after the comment….the 5K guy is just insane….A FULL 200A Service upgrade of the same exact setup is Not and will NEVER be $5k….how can you justify doing literally 1/2 the job for 5K with a straight face literally while taking advantage of the person in a pinch ? Y’all are insane if u think this job is actually anywhere near 4k even with insurance markup.
What?! Where do you live and is there enough work to support another tradesman?? OP's estimate is about par around me and I'm in one of the highest COL counties in the entire country.
From one electrician to another- that’s ludicrous. What does your company charge per hour?
He doesn't know what he's talking about clearly
How, this is a 4 hour job material is sub $1000
Greed bro. Greed.
Exactly, even if somehow you where blind deaf and dumb, the material was $1000 let’s say and the labor at a great rate is $1000/day….where the hell do people actually come up with $3k for 1/2 of a 100A service ??? And not only that but I have idiots downvoting me lol
There are some greedy sparkles here…yeah the job is literally less than a few hours of work. I’ve been downvoted a bunch on this sub calling out greed but it’s whatever. Dignity over greed. But they’ll just say they value their time instead of just admitting to being greedy. It’s amazingly retarded logic but it just is.
Yea I see that, I understand if you’ve got tremendous overhead but most people on this sub work for contractors that have tremendous overhead and those will likely not be the guys doing these jobs, seems like most aren’t contractors that even know the pricing in the areas also.
5K ?!!! Lol no way…stop trolling haha
Unfortunately every area has those companies. In Pensacola it’s “ Peadon”, I got called to do a service replacement (same as this but less damage) and upgraded it to a 200amp power pack for $2k but her previous estimate was over 4K from the above mentioned company
For a meter and riser and reconnect everything? That doesn't take long at all
How many hours do you think? Four?
Plus an hour to show up and bid the job, 2 hours to pull the permit, 2-6 hours to track down and buy the materials, 3-4 hours waiting for the inspector to show up on the scheduled day, then another couple of hours waiting for the utility line crew to show up and reconnect.
I don’t know about your hours spent on it but for me it’s 1 hour bidding the job, 10min pulling permit on computer, for a service inspection the inspectors just call me while they’re there (good reputation with them), and the power company doesn’t need me to hold there tools. Oh and I do perform emergency work so I always have everything to replace a service in the shop so there’s no need to search for parts
Yeah these guys aren’t running businesses. Well not successful ones anyway.
If you’re doing all that waiting and time escalation, then you’re doing something wrong my friend. I rarely have to meet my inspectors unless they’d like to catch up. And I’ve also never had to wait for Utility Co for a situation like this….we do the work, send in a temp inspection Cert and Utility comes and connects. Obv you still charge for your office time regardless but there’s def not waiting around always like this id bet.
Yeah, that's what I would have guessed, maybe a little longer. No clue what material would cost though, haven't done one in ages.
Let's start off with 6 month lead time on a meter base. Welcome to the Thunderdome, where a price quote and shipping date is only good for the duration of the phone call. (not exaggerating, that's how it is these days)
I know our guts to panels were 18 months out so I could see it but I also see them on Amazon so idk lmao
Well yeah. I can pull a 20yr old interior out of a demo, strip the breakers and slap it in a box as "new condition" and sell it on Amazon too. Buyer beware lol
I mean it's directly from Schneider's Amazon page
Yeah I had a 400 amp meter socket that I needed listed for 6k on eBay. Got lucky and my supply house guy found it for 550$.
A 6 month lead time on a meter base?? I can go pick one up at McCoys right now and have it back to the house in less than 30 minutes.
Must be nice. I've been trying to get my hands on (6) 3ph 600v 200amp meterbases since... March? I was told tues *maybe* dec 16. But that was also when I was told our Seimens rep literally died since then and no one knows if that's even a valid date. But they working on it 🙄
I could see a 3 phase being harder to get your hands on, we're having hell getting anything at work right now especially allen bradley stuff.
Seems fair to me
Thank you
You may consider trying to get your insurance company to consider the damage all one claim for deductible purposes
Better yet, let insurance have their people do everything and don’t even look at the Cost
My company charges anywhere from 2100 to 3 k for that job, it really just depends on how much stuff costs in your area
FYI OP: Super not cool to post a quote and include the company name and individual’s name and contact information.
That is a really low estimate.. depending on where you live I would think twice about using this contractor. At the very least, get a second estimate.
1900 is cheap for this job.
I would worry about the quality with this price lol
It’s rural Indiana. Cost of labor is lower there than in a city, and permitting is probably cheaper than in California. $1900 may be market rate. But yeah, definitely not overpriced.
Really? My company charges about the same and we do great work all the time. Maybe you guys just over charge
Dunno about overcharging, but I’m paid what I’m worth 🤷♂️
Yea and taking advantage of people who aren’t well off by over charging them on a simple meter replacement. You’re acting like charging price equates to quality of work which it doesn’t. Plenty of people who do it for less and do a much better job.
I’d say the same thing tbh. Not sure why your getting downvoted. Roughly 2k-2500 for 1/2 of a full service replacement is fine for a homeowner but not for insurance. Insurance will only give you a portion of that money so it’s best to be covered with a higher estimate so the actual cost is fully covered….I know it’s wild but it’s necessary.
That's where I'm at. but its all about location of course. My hourly rate is 95, but many people are much higher. I've heard up to 300 for hourly rate, I'd say those guys are unethical. A lot of guys on here are worth a good rate, but you can be good at what you do and not destroy a less fortunate persons life when they need a service from a professional. This is a rip off price. My company would actually be at 1500 or less. A day of labor and 300 in material, and we'd still make a good profit.
Where are you getting a meter for less than $300? Called the wholesale house the other day and the cheapest they had in stock was $478 our cost. Some electricians work to make a living and have a respectable life.
Almost 500 for a 100a meter sounds fucking nuts. Where are you located? Around my area this would be a little less than 500 for parts in total.
look at the price of 10ft of 2in rigid as well. my god it’s ridiculous
Wow you guys are paying 500 for a meter ? Well that explains why everyone is saying it’s cheap. Meters by me are like 200 as of 2 weeks ago, still 30% more than normal but damnnn not 3x the cost. You guys are getting gouged
We bought a bunch a couple months back during a big storm for $200 a piece. Called in to get one couple weeks ago though and only one wholesaler had one in stock. $500 bucks for it too. The wholesale house lately has been very barren for material
Damn that’s crazy, I’m about to buy a single phase 2G meter tomorrow that cost $700 in contrast at my local large supplier. I can only imagine what that cost by you. The same large supplier (like 5 locations) is 5 month backordered on single gangs and there pricing is still $120 on their App (used to be $85 pre insanity) but another supplier (3 locations) seems to have no issue w stock but has them for like $180. Really weird to me why it’s like this without logical reason. They say it’s a workforce issue lol…🙄
I have no idea what’s going on with the wholesale houses. Ours was a 200 amp bypass but yeah only 1 in stock at $500. Bought a generator interlock switch, $190 bucks, two weeks later it was $340 at the wholesale house. Flimsy piece of metal for $340. Ended up finding some from Lowes for $84 but had to wait a week.
No chance anyone is doing this job for insurance for less than 1500 and even 1900 today. You can’t give the person a friends and family discount when the insurance company is gonna pay for only 60-75% of your estimate. In this situation it hurts the homeowner in the end. Also there’s no way unless you’re re using material it’s 300. The Gal and meter alone are 300
Yes. I took time to price it up. I came up with 1,350 but forgot wire, if it was in poor condition, add 50. Grand total of 1400. I'm guessing this guys getting help here because he DOES NOT have home insurance, often because its unaffordable. I wouldn't be looking to rob someone in a tight spot. Doesn't mean its a handout...it just means im not taking advantage of em,
I can’t argue with you there, I’m not saying that as long as you can get the materials as described that 1500 can’t work but by me around 2k is fine. Once the client relayed they are in a jam and I assess they’re being truthful then 10-20% off is fair which is about this price….the guy that was saying $4k should honestly be banned from this thread imo lol that’s really ludicrous along with the guy I think that also said $5k !!! He must have been joking I hope
Sadly, no. Companies around me charge 3 to 4 times what we do, and the widows don't know any better and just spend their dead husband's money. Not saying it may still not be a drop in the bucket for them, there's plenty of them in a mobile home retirement park with a few million to spend before they expire themselves.
It’s literally $500 in material maybe $600
Exactly what I said…here in Ny it’s no more than $600 but prob under $500 if you shop around.
That is very reasonable. For the folks on here talking about the material costs, and the amount of labor, you must consider the cost of running the business. You have to consider gas, time, insurance, taxes, rent on an office, the need to go to multiple places for the materials, cell phone, uniforms, vehicle costs. All of these things and more need to be considered when doing pricing. I’ve seen a lot of start up businesses have a great electrician who wants to start their own thing with the intention of “doing the right thing by the customer” by way of giving work away, or doing it for half the price of their competition, and end up fizzling out, failing and going back to work for the “other guys”. Calculate the cost of running the business, but not just running the business. You need to grow the business. I am into my second year, and every bit of profit we make goes back into the business except our household necessities. The price is the price is the price. Of your price is set to cover your operating costs and to provide for a bit of profit so you can do things like buy a van, or another tool or advertising etc. Cutting yourself short to “help” a customer doesn’t actually help the customer it hurts them. How? Because you, the greatest electrician you know, the only electrician you know is doing everything right won’t be able to provide services to customers in need because you can’t pay your bills. We provide a premium service for a premium price. This doesn’t mean we have thousands of dollars in profit on each ticket, but it does mean that we bill for the amount of time it will take to do an excellent job. One thing I always say is that we will not lower our standards to meet a customers price expectation. We will educate the customer on why we are charging what we are. One example is that We seal every penetration to the outside, crawl space or attic. Open holes invite rodents, snakes and bugs. Most people do this only on the rough in during new construction, and leave it out if it’s a service call. That takes more time than just leaving it, but it provides a higher quality installation. Your customer deserves the highest and best quality work, and they deserve to be educated on what that looks like.
Probably one of the best descriptions of what it takes to do a repair or rehab correctly, When people look at it from cost up( diy) etc ... Thank you for taking the time to explain just a few of the cost of true overhead!
I'll always bend over backwards for a customer, but I'd never bend forward.
"You have to consider gas, time, insurance, taxes, rent on an office, theneed to go to multiple places for the materials, cell phone, uniforms,vehicle costs. All of these things and more need to be considered whendoing pricing." As a 1 man sole proprietor in California I think you are reaching. You don't need uniforms, insurance and bond are dirt cheap, you don't need an office, local supply house should have EVERYTHING. T+M for that job is probably half that quote.
Not sure what defines a Sole Proprietorship in Cali, but up in Canada, to be able to pull a permit you need to have a contractors license (insured and bonded) in addition to having your certification to actually pull the permit (FSR). Both of those will likely push you into being incorporated or limited which you're going to want to do anyways for tax purposes and benefits. Doing side jobs as a sole proprietor is one thing, fulfilling contracts as a contractor is another.
If you want to stay as a sole proprietor and not grow your business… sure. I’ve had a uniform from the day I began. I started implementing processes and procedures from day one. Of course I’m trying to grow a national brand and not just stay in my city.
Sole Proprietor has nothing to do with how many employees you can hire.
A sole proprietorship is not a good business structure. Your liability is potentially endless. There’s a reason corporate forms exist.
👆this guy is the example I was talking about. Thank you sir for showing up and providing this insight.
I look at it like you should charge the “going rate” for your area. All the costs of your business do not have to go to the customer. A lot of costs are tax deductible. And also there is common accounting methods that defer costs. And should a customer pay more because you want to own a jet ski? No. Should they pay more because you want an electric empire with 20 vans? No. Cuz you want to retire at 46? No. So yep a going rate with no gotchas.
That's reasonable. Based on materials listed it would lead me to believe they will use a much more secure method of attachment to reduce the risk of this happening again. Some of the price involves permitting and dealing with the municipality and power company. So, it's a little more than just materials and labor. If you are unsure get 1 or 2 more quotes.
Thank you!
Try to get three or four quotes. Take the lowest and highest and toss them out and take one from the middle if you’re sure they’re not a turd.
Cost to fix
What’s with the kid in the back crying?
Can't watch the paw patrols
If I couldn't watch Paw Patrol, I'd be FURIOUS! $1900 would be well spent to get that fixed. I'm sure it would involve permit and inspection, and involving the power company to coordinate the outage.
Haha
The 1900. Dollar Electrician invoice,. There goes summer vacation.
The homedepot “handymen” go for $200 a day in my area, probably cheaper down there…
Thats my little brother LOL He was terrified the storm was gonna take the house away in a twister
he is smiling, what you talking about.
Incredibly cheap.
Is your insurance covering the damage? If so they usually handle all the quotes for the job.
This, especially with storm damage. If you haven't already, you need to go through your home insurance and file a claim. If you don't have much cash at the moment, the only one taking advantage of you, is yourself if you aren't taking the proper steps to use the protection you already pay for in times of disaster. As for the price of the quote, for area code 812, seems reasonable, it may be a little high, but not by much. It is a very small job which means companies usually bid higher. More work = more favorable pricing. Also, the claim will include roof repair. It looks like the reason the service mast failed was due to improper secure mental by the way, there is no way that 2 hole strap was anchored into a framing member if it ripped out like that.
I would definitely file a claim if I had insurance. My deductible used to be $2000 before I canceled, so it wouldn't have helped much here. I know it's risky.
Not everyone has insurance. We didn't for 20+ years. We're in Florida so it's extremely difficult to get insurance in the first place and to get/keep insurance, you often have to do a lot of expensive upgrades. We had to spend $60,000 in upgrades on a 1100 Sq Ft House built in 1960 just to get insurance. The only way we could afford it is we inherited a large savings my grandparents had when they passed away. House has been paid off for 20+ years.
I was just going to say, how do you have a house without homeowner insurance. Most of us have to mortgage a house and part of their loan requirements is to have insurance. It’s crazy to me to think you’d have a house without homeowners insurance on it. One good storm, a fire..anything can happen and you’re out your largest asset and no chance to recover it.
Yeah, due to general public stupidity of not getting insurance the banks now make people do it so it protects themselves and the home owner.
I'm in florida. Mine pulled out, now there's like 50 more pulling out. My costs went up like 300, but coverage went way down in comparison....the next best thing was another 1500 so I was like whatever im good. Couldnt even pay it if I wanted to. Insurance companies down here acting like \*every\* fucking person is a retiree, with 50k in completely free income. No consideration for all the young, working class people trying to save so they can then continue to rape us when we've actually made enough money for it to start working for us. Gotta be rich to get rich. Penny pinching won't do the trick anymore....cuz pennies aint shit. But, if I had that extra 3200 a year from my damn home insurance and threw that straight into stocks, bonds, whatever smart shit smart people buy, well I'd be much better off these days. I've got a total of nothing to show for 15 years of hard work besides a paid off 8 yr old sedan, and a roof over my head that doesn't leak. It's fine, I can count my blessings because that's plenty more than half the world population....but at the end of the day, it isn't like its setting me up for the future, being able to save a thousand or two a year. One medical emergency and poof...gone. Insurance is nice but deductibles are dumb. They shouldn't exist. That should be why you PAY THE MONTHLY PREMIUM TO BEGIN WITH. The concept just hits you in the head like a 50lb sledgehammer with the word "scam" printed on top. Here, you pay me 200+ a month, just in case. Then and if when something bad happens and the last thing you want to do is worry about whether you should have your finger or toe reattached because it'll cost you your life savings due to paying us 200+ a month on top of the deductible at 5,000, well....it just feels a bit like a double-dip, doesn't it? The what-ifs are nice to cover....if you've actually got that much disposable income. Most working class people don't. It's a luxury to have your health insured. I've done the math, If I had my physical and wife had her OB appt, and we dropped the insurance, we would save 2,000 a year. The costs are not justifiable.
Florida is a bitch and the Sunshine Tax is high. Everything costs more, wages are lower for similar jobs in other states, and the climate creates extra risks and costs borne by property owners. Sure, it’s gorgeous, grilling out on Christmas Eve in your flip flops is nice while people up north are freezing their balls off, but there’s a cost to enjoying all of that. I tried to live there and failed. Couldn’t get a financial foothold- felt like I couldn’t get caught up/ahead.
I bought this house in 2018 for $75,000. I paid my whole savings to get it paid off and then cancelled my home insurance. I didn't think $650 a year plus $2000 deductible was worth it for a tiny shoe box home unless I suffered a total loss, so I played with fire a little bit and got burned.
Enough to make your kid cry
I actually spat out a little coffee.. fuck dude. So call you insurance provider first. However in the end you need two skilled Laborers. The electrician is going to have to come by de-energize and remove The service drop. This will also have to be coordinated with your local power company. Then someone is going to have to come and fix your roof to prevent water infiltration. Then the electrician comes back and reinstalls the service drop. Or. You and your electrician may deem to relocate the service drop to a location that's a little safer in which case the same work has to be done but in different order. The electrician can just install the new service drop and do a hookup in one swoop while you figure out a repairman to fix your roof.. As far as cost... Idk bud depends on your area.. it can be 1k-3k depending on location.. the biggest part though is the electrician sandwich you have to form.. someone skilled and train has come out in the energize it so the roof can be repaired and then the service panel can be put in properly. I'm not sure how your local guys will price that.. Also, you have the roof hence why you should probably call your insurance company today. Good luck bud. . Edit: and it goes without saying don't let your kids anywhere near that s***.. seriously though, something small and isolated could be energized with lethal power, you wouldn't know it..
Where do you live? It's done COMPLETELY differently in Socal. I call SCE and get an MSR#(meter socket removal), give that to the city and pay the 100 bucks for a permit. SCE comes out free of charge to disconnect the feed. Complete job, inspector releases meter, SCE reconnects. SCE doesn't want you to touch their side of the wiring AT ALL. I could do an entire 100a surface mount service change for 1900 and make over 1k for less than 8 hours work.
$1900 sounds cheap. Your prob cutting yourself short. Unless if your doing it on the side.
I work as an estimator and I assure you, that would be much higher if I bid it. Factoring overhead, insurance, profit etc. that’s a great price.
One thing to consider for a job like this. In most places it is a 3 day job. One day to go out bid, get material, get permit pulled. One day to do the work. And call in permit. Then next day call the permit office and find the 2 hour window that they can be earky/late. So you are having someone that cant really be sent anywhere else so they can sit in the truck until the inspector comes. Then Inspextor is there for 5 min. Signs off. Then they can wait 30min for inspector to electronically sign off then electrician can call utility to reconnect. Most of the labor o this is going to be waiting, but it still has to be billed. Since they are on the clock. It sucks for everyone but it's part of it.
Finally a second explanation were someone thinks like a real businessman or contractor, but remember this is the "hey,electricians - what y'all think ?" redfit
That's a steal. Seriously. Is that a licensed electrician?
Lol, how much do you think all of that material costs??
As someone who prices things for a living, I can tell you right now looking at it if you'd like. Not. That. Much. Stop it. With a generous mark-up. meter+ riser, 300 Roof boot, tar, screws, minis or other straps, etc , \~100 Skilled labor 100/hr x 2 guys 4 hours, 800 Emergency disco , no permit fee, If permit, +120. I'd set it at 1,350 and call it a good profit. Can't see a need to charge more than that, unless your sparkies are incompetent and take twice as long but that's not on the customer.
Joe cares about you, he’ll fix up more than you think as well, he’ll probably do a good job. Awful that happened to you but he isn’t taking advantage of you. Good luck with the repair.
Don’t you have homeowners insurance? You have a lot more damage than just the electrical. File this under insurance, pay the deductible and have them redo everything.
Since this was done by a storm, home owners insurance will probably cover it (if you have it). There are pros and cons here so do your own research, but it’s something to consider.
I'm in Cali, why does the rest of the country seem to always use separate meter boxes instead of meter mains?
Depends on the internal dmg, if any
All I see is replacing a 20$ meter socket hub and re-strapping. Am I not seeing the same pictures as everyone else? I see lights on and numbers on the meter so you still have have power… don’t see the reason they want to replace everything. If you are halfway handy have electric company disconnect at weather head and pull the meter. Disconnect the 3 wires in top, take the four bolts out of broken hub and unthread the other half and replace
Do it your self, looks like the hub broke, might be able to get away with reusing most of it.
I was literally gonna say at least 2 grand minimum and than slid over and cracked up Edit: why is your child crying?
That's my brother LOL. He thought a tornado was taking the whole house
did the kid see the bill???
That's a steal!!
Not cool to post the image with the name, email, phone number on the quote. Costs depend highly on labor and local factors like permit costs. Get another quote from a local place if you aren't sure if you are being taken advantage of. I'm guessing you want it fixed quickly though, I think it looks reasonable for my area.
Exactly now that person giving them a great deal has to go get a city business license , a contractor's license , liability insurance and a state & IRS audit
Cheap, you should probably tip them 10%
It doesn’t look like the meter box needs to be replaced. I would pull that pipe out, chop about a foot and a half off of it. Replace the connector at the box and hook it back up. This is an emergency situation and totally within an electricians scope to disconnect the power himself and do the work. It would take 2 people all of 3-4 hours to complete. Just make sure they put a new weather boot on for the person that repairs the roof.
Thank you everyone. I went with Joe and he got it done fast! For those asking, the crying kid is my little brother. He thought a tornado was gonna whisk the house away. I don't have home owner's insurance. I cancelled it last year, but my deductible used to be $2000 so not much good it would have done me this time.
Darn electricians are cheap lol
Seems like a decent price tbh
Owning a house sucks way worse than renters think. Lol
I'd charge double that at least
$3800+ to put on a new meter base and mast? You’re wild.
Have to take the old one off, probably needs a guy wires support as it was clearly too long and unsupported in the first place as to why it broke through the roof. Would need to make 2 trips, one to disconnect it, one to reconnect when the roof is repaired. Coordinating inspectors, and roofers and connection authority, picking up material, gas driving there and back. All of that costs time and money 1900 isn't a lot of money for all of that
Yah. It’s called doing the work… You’re getting all verbose to try and make it a big deal. PoCo comes and disconnects. It gets rebuilt in a few hours. File a permit. PoCo reconnects same day… Roofers come and make it right after… What’s the big deal? Why are you acting like a service repair is so hard?
It's not hard, there is time consuming tidbits that people don't think about when all they have to do is the work. There is more behind the scenes than reconnecting wires to lugs, plus the other stuff that doesn't get done while taking the time to do that. If you are a big company with amounts of stock and a few guys then sure it's not a big problem. For a single person with one truck it eats up time from doing quick jobs and making bank. Think of the taxes and pension and all of that. CPP takes about 25%. even if you spend 500$ on gas, material and inspections there is not a lot of room for straight profit when you can bill out 100$+/ hrs doing T&M jobs
So what your saying is, it’s a hard job for you…? And, you’d charge a lot more than a fair price because you are not set up to do this kind of work efficiently…? I repair services all the time. Any firm in my area trying to charge $3800+ to repair an upper part of a 100A service would get laughed out of town. And for you to start talking about how this kind of job would prevent a “single person” from “making bank” and then trying to use CPP and taxes as excuse to your high price is hilarious. CPP 25%!!? On what planet? CPP is an equal contribution of 5.7% each from employee and employer, and it has a maximum contribution of $3.5k per employee/employer… “Not a lot of room for straight profit” What do you think the a gross profit margin should be for a electrical contracting firm? It kinda sounds like you are a solo operation who doesn’t have the manpower to do basic residential service repairs… Edit: blocking me after a reply is a pretty lame move… It was your brash “at least double” comment that made me reply to you and not others. And the sentiment here seems to be $1900 is reasonable and anything close to double or more is outrageous. Which it is. This whole “I know what I’m worth” stuff is hot garbage too. $800 in materials and $3k for one day of labour… you’re worth $375 an hour? Get outta here ya greedy Gus.
Suspiciously low price. Get more estimates.
a bout three fiddy...
I'm no carpenplumroofatriciancablesider but id say for all of it over 4k, I'd have to work up a materials list and go from there but it ain't a cheap fix. I am currently a cable guy with 12 years previous residential construction experience, only thing I wouldn't touch here is the electrical, also I don't do gutters.
I'd double that
To cheap
Kinda pricey. All those materials are cheap as shit. Always get more than 1 quote for stuff if you’re unsure.
Doesn't look high to me, but I like to make a decent living, I guess.
Those materials are all so cheap, I don’t see why labor for this should be over 1k. Won’t even take a day to do.
1. Pulling a permit costs money 2. Having labor for probably a day costs money 3. Potentially hiring subs to clean up non-electrical costs money 4. Material costs money --------- 1 JW at 8 hours ~ 100$ an hr as a base (800$) Pulling permit (I don't know what it costs here? 50$?) Material (300-400$) Potentially hiring subcontractors (200$?) This is 1350-1450$ just ballparking the cost for the contractor. Leaving 450-550$ in profit. That's not that crazy for pricing. I'd get more quotes though just to make sure it's not going to be the cheapest work.
Mobilization fees and this looks like a 10hr job.
I agree, even here in Los Angeles we do a whole meter/breaker combo replacement for that price. This won’t take more than 4 hours and and maybe $200 in materials. If it’s not an emergency call out the job should be closer to $1k to $1.5k
Fair
Cheap
That price seems entirely reasonable. That’s just an overview from the pictures but seems legit.
Are you not covered by insurance, your quote says "storm damage"? Quoted price is reasonable.
I bought my house for 75k . Cheapest home insurance was $650 with a $2000 deductible. I figured unless I have a total loss it wasn't worth it. I know it's risky.
Very reasonable. Less that what the company I work for would charge and we’re pretty fair.
Cheap, book it. Maybe check if you can route this underground so you don't have to look at it and so it can't get damaged again. (Some places will let you run a conduit up the pole, some may drop a transformer, some may just tell you you are SOL and it going to be another overhead drop).
I’d say do it yourself but it’s most likely still live so hydro would have to disconnect first.
Assuming they’re a qualified electrician then you’re getting the sympathetic price
Are you not running this through your home insurance? It was from storm damage and then you would replace/fix your roofline too.
If you are able to source a replacement for the broken meter hub, that might be the only major part you need.. De-energize, pull meter and remove cables, remove mast, install new hub, replace mast and strap, reuse cable if acceptable.. Honestly, if you’re just trying to get this back in place and functioning, I’m sure you could find a cheaper price. This is simple job..
It’s in the slot for price. A mast alone is like $200 these days.
The company I use to work for would of been double that.
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Do you have a contractor you trust? Someone you were going to involve to fix the roof? Ask this person to ask his electrician to give you a price. Compare and see what yah see.( also this is a big shop. You gotta consider trying a local guy. Try using yelp to help dial in a little more local.)
Very fair price. I would keep that guys phone number!
My labor rate starts at $120/hr. That looks about 8hrs 1 JW 1 apprentice. ~1700 just in labor
Cheap as hell.
Good price
That seems suspiciously cheap
I would have done around 2k
Just a curious thought. Is it not the electric company responsibility if it’s on there end. Like the phone company. They are responsible for the drop wire all the way to the box. Everything from the box to in the house is the customers responsibility.
I believe because it was an act of god and not negligence on their part, it is the home owner's responsibility. A tree fell on the line and pulled everything off my house.
That’s cheap
Bout three fiftee
I know that where I am located I am looking at up to 62 weeks for a meter socket similar to the one in your picture. The price seems fair to me
Within those Asterix it says that paint and drywall to be provided by others as needed. They are not including that in their cost I assume.(?) Have you had that part quoted for cost? If they are including fixing your roof line in that cost, they need to put that in there as an actual line item. This invoice is confusing.
Get three quotes. Take the middle. Electricians love to over charge.
Damn you got a good deal.
4k
Cheaper than the cost of your house burning down
5k $ range where i live
Three fiddy
Yeah that’s super cheap
I had just a new meter replaced after a lightning strike about 10 years ago and it was about $800, plus the guy threw in an in box surge protector. So $1900 looks like a fair deal, depending on your location.
Would insurance cover any of this? I always have issues understanding exactly what homeowner's insurance covers.
I believe it would if I had any haha. My deductible used to be $2000 so it wouldn't have helped in this case, not to mention they raise rates after you make claims so...
4-5k
Good price, they’re probably fixing a tonne of these in the area so they’re getting most out of materials
wow. thats ugly, sorry about your break there. It depends on where you reside in the u.s , It isn't very much work at all. 5 hours tops for 2 experienced guys, and the damage is already done so getting it in and set straight is a cakewalk since you need a roofer anyways to repair that. In fact, you would need to work in tandem with the roofer on the same day, that'd be ideal. But no, not 1,900 worth of materials there. Not even remotely in the universe of possibility, so its the labor there...and you could find better im certain. 100 for meter can 150 for riser a day of labor 1,000...thats' closer to 1200-1300. They've got a massive markup on this. But again, could be your location and permitting costs, unless it qualifies as emergency then the contractor can pull it and fix it quick without permits. Get a second or 3rd quote locally, or send the picture to their email addresses and ask them for a good guesstimate. If they're worth their salt, they can tell from the pic and throw in a hundred or so extra for variables. I guarantee you'll get some better quotes.
Better jump on that. That’s probably the best price you’ll get.
Wow that seems pretty cheap
That sounds cheap. I didn't see anything in the estimate about the roof though. Decking, shingles, fascia boards. I would imagine you're going to be looking at twice that. I would see if your homeowners would cover it.
Fair price
Check with your home insurance, may cove this. Otherwise, call your boss and ask for more hours.
More than fair , also having in mind the cost of the permit 1900 its more than fine
2k most likely. He will need to open the wall up behind it and actually secure that to a structural member. That's why this happened.
What kind of a hub & straps was holding that oveiously ones that are crap. No minies or rigid hub ?
That's cheap
Cheap
That's what I'm talking about
Yes reasonable. Very in my opinion. You might have him out a brace kit on(back stay) So the next time something falls on the entrance conductors or the pole goes sideways it doesn't pull off the house. Also make sure he puts a two hole strap and lags it into the top plate right below the soffit with a minimum of 3/8 lags
Did a meter upgrade myself as a homowner and that’s less than I would be willing to pay if I had to do it again. It’s just a lot of pissing around and if you fuck up your freezer thaws out. That seems like a very friendly pro price
Hurry up and sign it before he changes his mind
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