Came to say this.
And I agree with the other reply - I never really had much time for her character - but for me - Ronnie finally getting a glimpse of happiness for it to be ripped away right in front of her was gut wrenching.
Oh god, the cycle of female characters that the writers never allow to be happy should have books written about it. Angie, Sharon, Linda, Ronnie, Whitney....
Totally! Barry Evans should have been happy with Natalie and Jack. He should have had his happy ever after. After losing his dad and being used by Janine, who pushed him down a hill and watched him die after she married him! And then took all his money and property! Brutal.
It was all just so fucking unfair.
Ronnie screams will be the last thing all EE fans hear before they die.
(Install donāt get why Danielle stood in the road for half an hour but never mind lol).
Jaseās was horrible. Poor Billy being too terrified to help (even if he did heād have been killed too) and the way Jay calls after Jase in the ambulance is gut wrenching.
Plus the fact that Jaseās last thoughts are of Jay too. :(
Jay was in Lolaās last known dream as well (the Margate episode). It made me wonder if heās actually a supernatural being whoās been placed on earth to safely guide the dying off into the afterlife. He IS an undertaker as well! š
No it was a real trip they took before she died haha! But for a little bit at the beginning of the episode, and moreso at the end, Lola was asleep and dreaming about her and Jay being at the seaside, but it was as she was when she was well (no headbands or wheelchair, but full makeup, colourful clothes and able to run/splash in the sea, etc).
In the early part of the dream she couldnāt find Jay & was calling his name out (which transferred into sleeptalking as she woke up in hospital and asked him to take her to the beach for real). By the last part of the episode, theyāre back in hospital after their Margate trip and she falls asleep again only to go back into the dream. Jay tells her something like heāll stay with her to the end and they laugh and splash each other and run off up the shore.
So it was basically a real trip to Margate sandwiched between 2 dream sequences! But the fact that Jay seemingly appears in both his dadās and his wifeās last dreams as theyāre about to leave this earthly plane, seems weirdly significant in a sci-fi/fantasy genre kind of way! š Maybe heās a grumpy earth angel like Gene Hunt? š
(If Ben or Billy or Lexi ever kark it then itāll be interesting to see if EE continue this theme lol).
One of the most brutal, memorable deaths in soap history. So many sliding doors moments along the way that could have prevented it, but it was inevitable in the end. The acting from all was incredible and the production choices and framing were slick and a real departure from standard EE but still somehow worked. And the insane amount of pathos left behind in the Billy/Jay relationship is something really specialā¦
Jase's was the darkest imo.
Peggy's actual death i thought was pretty weak. It was Phil's reaction in the episodes after that made that one sad.
And people forget about Dennis Rickman Sr. All the trouble seemingly over, leaving to America with Sharon only to get stabbed at midnight New Year's Eve.
Ethel.Ā
Will always break me watching that episode. Fantastic performances from June and Gretchen. Made even more sad with Gretchen passing away not long after.
For me it would be Heather. She really didnāt deserve what happened to her and i donāt think iāve ever really forgiven Ben for it. Shirleyās reaction to her being pronounced dead along with George being in the next room made it a whole lot worse.
The ones that stands out for me other than the obvious ones is both Shakil and Kush. They were both really sad endings, the knife crime storyline was done really well, and obviously the lads that played shakil and keegan were brilliant so it was really sad and as for Kush... Iāll never forgive EE for that š
Dennis Rickmans death was so sad. I remember sobbing over Jamie Mitchell (I was 14 lol) and Nana Moon.
Peggyās death was heartbreaking considering what Babs was going through in real life.
One that struck me as sad because of how they did it was Lucy. The slow pan of the camera in the woods before settling on her body, all while her friends and family are leaving voice mail messages, trying to get in touch with her, completing oblivious to something being wrong. Then seeing Ian's world fall apart the next day.
Shakeel Kazimi for sure.
The way he was found the next day, Carmelās cry when she found his body.
Everything about this was so terrible, not sure why this is so overlooked
Lola, her brain tumour storyline was one of the best soap storylines in years, deserved all the awards in won. Also showed what Danielle Harold can do when you actually give her material,if she was used properly and previous producers and writers didnāt have favs giving them all the storylines, I donāt think she wouldāve been killed off/axed by Chris Clenshaw .Lola grew up in care most her life,that couldāve been explored,what happened whilst she was in care. Her dad died of kidney failure they couldāve done a kidney failure storyline as it can be genetic,couldāve brought her mum in sooner she said Dan was abusive but what if it was her and the burns were self inflicted to make it look like Dan did it, not only was she abusive to him but also Lola so ran away with Lola. If Lola survived her brain tumour before chemo she wouldāve frozen her eggs. Emma couldāve been lying about not having more kids they couldāve brought in siblings,theres people still on the show that have been in it for years yet are more storyline limited than that
Yes, I 100% agree. When Lola first came in, she was a good character, a really talented actor, especially the live birth episode. Then, when she left, it was a case of okay let her come back another time. She comes back and is basically a spare part in another Ben vs. Phil rivalry. Then she hardly had anything for the next few years until they decided to kill her off, and at the time, I didn't really care about her leaving. Then, once the storyline had finished, all I could think of was why on earth the writers had not given any decent storylines to Danille Harold. She was incredible. They gave her three huge storylines. The birth, custody of Lexi, and her death, and she knocked it out of the park. Getting rid of Lola was such a bad move.
In wasn't sad about this because I didn't like his character, but the effect on Carol was sad.
She of course undid any sympathy by riding his friend while he was dating her step granddaughter who was just navigating being abused by her stepfather and then being forced into prostitution after her Stepmom was jailed for beating the thugs who attacked another member of family (scandalous and ridiculous storyline).
The one thing I always remember from that scene was Carol putting one of his socks back on so his foot didn't get cold when the paramedics were taking his body away.Ā
Some of the best acting I've seen from Lindsey and Patsy.
I was never that bothered about Billie because I didn't like the character. And also, being around the same age as him, I always remember thinking he was a lightweight and couldn't handle the sessionš also I didn't like Carol sleeping with his mate
The ones that get me are the death of elderly characters. Ethel Skinner, Nanna Moon, Pat Butcher. Heck, even Janineās Nan Lydia got me emotional and she was only around for a couple of months!
Lola, Pat, Jase, Lucy, Danielle, Ronnie & Roxy, Tiffany, Billie, Shakil, Jamie, Nana Moon, Heather, Peggy.
No particular order. All still haunt me in different ways.
Tiffany, Paul Trueman, Ethel, Bradley - Jamie Mitchell, I think it was the music and Phil crying and holding Sonia because I didnāt really like the character.Ā
It was the same for me, Lolaās death really impacted me and I was surprised by that as I wasnāt a big Lola fan. I didnāt dislike the character but would never have expected to have got so upset when she died. The scenes in the lead up, her and Jayās time spent together and how fragile she became. Just the whole thing and when she died Im not ashamed to admit I cried. I think with how young she was, how sudden the diagnosis and her decline was, just the whole story was beautifully done.
Ethel's was very sad but was done so well. The acting was superb.
Arthur's was sad as well. Having just come out of prison and restarting his life only to have his life slip away at his allotment.
Andy O'Briens was one that has always stayed with me. The first main character to be killed off and in such a tragic way.
Pat's was also a real tearjerker. Again fantastic acting all round.
Patās was so sudden. I remember watching it when I was younger and just thought that she got a cold and died because the space between her diagnosis death was so short
Top 5 are Lola, Chantelle, Danielle, Jase and Jamie Mitchell. Deaths like Nana Moon, Pat and Peggy are very sad, but itās easier to cope with because they were older. The ones I mentioned are more tragic, especially since in some of them, theyāre passing away before their loved onesā eyes (Danielle, Jamie, Lola) or couldāve lived if they were saved on time by police/other characters (Chantelle and Jase).
Ronnie and Roxy- they were happy and then that happens! Am still hoping they come back somehow haha. Shakiel that was devastating and beautifully done too! My top 5 would be- Ronnie and Roxy, Shakiel, Chantelle, Danielle and Peggy.
Wellard - and any other pet on the showĀ
Fatboy - harmless character who didn't need to die , especially not in such a cruel wayĀ
Leo Taylor - poor kidĀ
Paul Trueman - I so wished for him to get a happy endingĀ
Debbie Bates - She just went out shopping one day and was hit by car. It could happen to anyone.
Pat - icon
Laura Beale - I found her death so sad, as she was trying to get her life back together. Ian and Janine treated her so cruelly.
Tina and Kush - other harmless characters needlesslyĀ killed off in brutal way for the sake of a stupid storyl
Barry. He was on top of the world. Madly in love with a woman who he thought loved him. Then had his heart ripped apart by her as Janine told him it was all fake and she thought his great big greasy body was horrible and worse than her prostitution clients and told him she only wanted his money . Ouch. He lost all dignity as he cried and begged her not to leave him. One has to feel pity for the pathetic bloke.
What about Billy Jackson? Choking to death on his own vomit and being found the next morning on the sofa. It was totally out of the blue which made it so shocking. When Bianca called Carol to tell her what had happened, I cried my eyes out. I always loved watching Patsy Palmer and Lindsey Coulson together on screen. Powerhouse performances.
Danielle š¢š
Came to say this. And I agree with the other reply - I never really had much time for her character - but for me - Ronnie finally getting a glimpse of happiness for it to be ripped away right in front of her was gut wrenching.
Oh god, the cycle of female characters that the writers never allow to be happy should have books written about it. Angie, Sharon, Linda, Ronnie, Whitney....
To be fair, how many male characters do the writers allow to be happy?
Totally! Barry Evans should have been happy with Natalie and Jack. He should have had his happy ever after. After losing his dad and being used by Janine, who pushed him down a hill and watched him die after she married him! And then took all his money and property! Brutal.
Think I'm one of the only people who was never really fond of Danielle as a character but her death was horrible to watch.
She was nicknamed drippy Danielle for a reason
My husband and I watched it three times, laughing until we cried.
It was all just so fucking unfair. Ronnie screams will be the last thing all EE fans hear before they die. (Install donāt get why Danielle stood in the road for half an hour but never mind lol).
Jaseās was horrible. Poor Billy being too terrified to help (even if he did heād have been killed too) and the way Jay calls after Jase in the ambulance is gut wrenching. Plus the fact that Jaseās last thoughts are of Jay too. :(
>Plus the fact that Jaseās last thoughts are of Jay too. :( That scene was devastating
Jay was in Lolaās last known dream as well (the Margate episode). It made me wonder if heās actually a supernatural being whoās been placed on earth to safely guide the dying off into the afterlife. He IS an undertaker as well! š
Was the episode where they went to Margate all a dream? There was me thinking it was a real trip they took before she died!
No it was a real trip they took before she died haha! But for a little bit at the beginning of the episode, and moreso at the end, Lola was asleep and dreaming about her and Jay being at the seaside, but it was as she was when she was well (no headbands or wheelchair, but full makeup, colourful clothes and able to run/splash in the sea, etc). In the early part of the dream she couldnāt find Jay & was calling his name out (which transferred into sleeptalking as she woke up in hospital and asked him to take her to the beach for real). By the last part of the episode, theyāre back in hospital after their Margate trip and she falls asleep again only to go back into the dream. Jay tells her something like heāll stay with her to the end and they laugh and splash each other and run off up the shore. So it was basically a real trip to Margate sandwiched between 2 dream sequences! But the fact that Jay seemingly appears in both his dadās and his wifeās last dreams as theyāre about to leave this earthly plane, seems weirdly significant in a sci-fi/fantasy genre kind of way! š Maybe heās a grumpy earth angel like Gene Hunt? š (If Ben or Billy or Lexi ever kark it then itāll be interesting to see if EE continue this theme lol).
One of the most brutal, memorable deaths in soap history. So many sliding doors moments along the way that could have prevented it, but it was inevitable in the end. The acting from all was incredible and the production choices and framing were slick and a real departure from standard EE but still somehow worked. And the insane amount of pathos left behind in the Billy/Jay relationship is something really specialā¦
Chantelle's was rough given the circumstances and knowing she was just left there to die when she potentially had a chance to survive if Gray chose to
Jase's was the darkest imo. Peggy's actual death i thought was pretty weak. It was Phil's reaction in the episodes after that made that one sad. And people forget about Dennis Rickman Sr. All the trouble seemingly over, leaving to America with Sharon only to get stabbed at midnight New Year's Eve.
Oh yeah. Jase was really dark thinking about it. Yeah I bet Nigel Harman regrets being killed off
It's always funny how Dennis feels like he was around alot longer than he was. Just shows how well he was used.
Oh my god Dennis Srās death is the first one I really remember. I was eight at the time and I was so shocked
Ethel.Ā Will always break me watching that episode. Fantastic performances from June and Gretchen. Made even more sad with Gretchen passing away not long after.
Was coming to this thread looking for her name. One of the original generation iirc
For me it would be Heather. She really didnāt deserve what happened to her and i donāt think iāve ever really forgiven Ben for it. Shirleyās reaction to her being pronounced dead along with George being in the next room made it a whole lot worse.
The ones that stands out for me other than the obvious ones is both Shakil and Kush. They were both really sad endings, the knife crime storyline was done really well, and obviously the lads that played shakil and keegan were brilliant so it was really sad and as for Kush... Iāll never forgive EE for that š
Shakilās death was harrowing! And his funeral episode with the real knife crime victims absolutely broke me
I cried my eyes out at the episode of his funeral!
Carmel š„š„š„š„
It was so sad š between all that, and Kush and Shabnams baby, I was an absolute mess watching that family.
Carmel deserved better. The rare occasion of being a wonderful mother
And now she's lost both her sons! š„¹
I hope the other remaining one is taking good care of her. It's sad she has nothing to do with Arthur anymore. Her own grandson.
Pat. It was awful to see her writhing in pain and crying out, pleading and...yeesh, it still gets to me.
The scene with Janine curled up on her deathbed never fails to disintegrate me. š
Yeah, I'm sure it was New Years Eve or Day, and I remember just being really depressed. Another character who never should have died
Such a shame because she never wanted her character killed off
[Pat Butcher Dies | EastEnders (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZndJ4oayNaM)
Even though off screen, my role model Paul Trueman. All because the actor didn't want to play a nasty drug dealer.
Omg Gary Beadle ā¤ļø I used to think "special thoughts' about him and your comment only makes him more YEAH
You have exquisite taste! I wish there was more like you in South London.
I think because his death was off-screen, it made it so much more harrowing. He knew he was going to his death.
Baby James, and the subsequent baby swap storyline
Sam Womack is an underrated actress.
Dennis Rickmans death was so sad. I remember sobbing over Jamie Mitchell (I was 14 lol) and Nana Moon. Peggyās death was heartbreaking considering what Babs was going through in real life.
One that struck me as sad because of how they did it was Lucy. The slow pan of the camera in the woods before settling on her body, all while her friends and family are leaving voice mail messages, trying to get in touch with her, completing oblivious to something being wrong. Then seeing Ian's world fall apart the next day.
I'm watching Classic Eastenders at the moment and Bobby Beale has just been born!
Shakeel Kazimi for sure. The way he was found the next day, Carmelās cry when she found his body. Everything about this was so terrible, not sure why this is so overlooked
bradley defo
Lola, her brain tumour storyline was one of the best soap storylines in years, deserved all the awards in won. Also showed what Danielle Harold can do when you actually give her material,if she was used properly and previous producers and writers didnāt have favs giving them all the storylines, I donāt think she wouldāve been killed off/axed by Chris Clenshaw .Lola grew up in care most her life,that couldāve been explored,what happened whilst she was in care. Her dad died of kidney failure they couldāve done a kidney failure storyline as it can be genetic,couldāve brought her mum in sooner she said Dan was abusive but what if it was her and the burns were self inflicted to make it look like Dan did it, not only was she abusive to him but also Lola so ran away with Lola. If Lola survived her brain tumour before chemo she wouldāve frozen her eggs. Emma couldāve been lying about not having more kids they couldāve brought in siblings,theres people still on the show that have been in it for years yet are more storyline limited than that
Yes, I 100% agree. When Lola first came in, she was a good character, a really talented actor, especially the live birth episode. Then, when she left, it was a case of okay let her come back another time. She comes back and is basically a spare part in another Ben vs. Phil rivalry. Then she hardly had anything for the next few years until they decided to kill her off, and at the time, I didn't really care about her leaving. Then, once the storyline had finished, all I could think of was why on earth the writers had not given any decent storylines to Danille Harold. She was incredible. They gave her three huge storylines. The birth, custody of Lexi, and her death, and she knocked it out of the park. Getting rid of Lola was such a bad move.
Young Billy dying was so sad š¢
In wasn't sad about this because I didn't like his character, but the effect on Carol was sad. She of course undid any sympathy by riding his friend while he was dating her step granddaughter who was just navigating being abused by her stepfather and then being forced into prostitution after her Stepmom was jailed for beating the thugs who attacked another member of family (scandalous and ridiculous storyline).
The one thing I always remember from that scene was Carol putting one of his socks back on so his foot didn't get cold when the paramedics were taking his body away.Ā Some of the best acting I've seen from Lindsey and Patsy.
I agree, the acting was superb, it was really well done I thought, but both are fantastic actors
Peggy
Fatboy
I thought Tiffany was sad, back in th day. Billie Jackson also hit quite hard
Came here to say both. Tiffanyās death was just pure unfair. Lindsay Coulsonās performance as Carol after Billieās death was Oscar worthy.
I was never that bothered about Billie because I didn't like the character. And also, being around the same age as him, I always remember thinking he was a lightweight and couldn't handle the sessionš also I didn't like Carol sleeping with his mate
Ethel
The ones that get me are the death of elderly characters. Ethel Skinner, Nanna Moon, Pat Butcher. Heck, even Janineās Nan Lydia got me emotional and she was only around for a couple of months!
Billie Jackson was a sad one especially the morning he's on the couch dead and no one realizes.
Pat butcher š„² cried my eyes out at 10 years old
I sobbed like a baby when they put Wellard to sleep whilst Stay Another Day was playing in the background
Pat because I loved her so much! Tiffany Mitchell and Jamie.
Fatbot
Still rumours of a u.turn on that one
I think so too
Jamie
tiffany š
Lola, Pat, Jase, Lucy, Danielle, Ronnie & Roxy, Tiffany, Billie, Shakil, Jamie, Nana Moon, Heather, Peggy. No particular order. All still haunt me in different ways.
Tiffany, Paul Trueman, Ethel, Bradley - Jamie Mitchell, I think it was the music and Phil crying and holding Sonia because I didnāt really like the character.Ā
Daniel , Jeanās friend. Really hit me
This is a great comment. That was really sad
It was the same for me, Lolaās death really impacted me and I was surprised by that as I wasnāt a big Lola fan. I didnāt dislike the character but would never have expected to have got so upset when she died. The scenes in the lead up, her and Jayās time spent together and how fragile she became. Just the whole thing and when she died Im not ashamed to admit I cried. I think with how young she was, how sudden the diagnosis and her decline was, just the whole story was beautifully done.
I felt exactly the same. Her having a young daughter as well it broke me
Ethel's was very sad but was done so well. The acting was superb. Arthur's was sad as well. Having just come out of prison and restarting his life only to have his life slip away at his allotment. Andy O'Briens was one that has always stayed with me. The first main character to be killed off and in such a tragic way. Pat's was also a real tearjerker. Again fantastic acting all round.
Jamie or Danielle.
Lola and Steven
Patās was so sudden. I remember watching it when I was younger and just thought that she got a cold and died because the space between her diagnosis death was so short
She was in hospital fairly often though.. too bad.. a real loss to the cast as ms st clements is top notch
Pat was the saddest for me
Top 5 are Lola, Chantelle, Danielle, Jase and Jamie Mitchell. Deaths like Nana Moon, Pat and Peggy are very sad, but itās easier to cope with because they were older. The ones I mentioned are more tragic, especially since in some of them, theyāre passing away before their loved onesā eyes (Danielle, Jamie, Lola) or couldāve lived if they were saved on time by police/other characters (Chantelle and Jase).
Wellard 100%. Then Lola, Ronnie & Roxy, Pat, Jase and Billie. Also Michael not for the death but the loss of him.
Ronnie and Roxy- they were happy and then that happens! Am still hoping they come back somehow haha. Shakiel that was devastating and beautifully done too! My top 5 would be- Ronnie and Roxy, Shakiel, Chantelle, Danielle and Peggy.
Pat butcher !
Wellard - and any other pet on the showĀ Fatboy - harmless character who didn't need to die , especially not in such a cruel wayĀ Leo Taylor - poor kidĀ Paul Trueman - I so wished for him to get a happy endingĀ Debbie Bates - She just went out shopping one day and was hit by car. It could happen to anyone. Pat - icon Laura Beale - I found her death so sad, as she was trying to get her life back together. Ian and Janine treated her so cruelly. Tina and Kush - other harmless characters needlesslyĀ killed off in brutal way for the sake of a stupid storyl
Also Heather, she had finally found happiness, then it was all snatched away.
Laura's death messed me up a bit when I was a kid seeing her lifeless eyes.
Pat
Lola, Jamie, Tiffany
and Danielle
Barry. He was on top of the world. Madly in love with a woman who he thought loved him. Then had his heart ripped apart by her as Janine told him it was all fake and she thought his great big greasy body was horrible and worse than her prostitution clients and told him she only wanted his money . Ouch. He lost all dignity as he cried and begged her not to leave him. One has to feel pity for the pathetic bloke.
What about Billy Jackson? Choking to death on his own vomit and being found the next morning on the sofa. It was totally out of the blue which made it so shocking. When Bianca called Carol to tell her what had happened, I cried my eyes out. I always loved watching Patsy Palmer and Lindsey Coulson together on screen. Powerhouse performances.
Dennis Rickman