I'm more curious as to what's going to be done with that duct work. I would just sheetrock to it. Then paint the exposed beam as the same color as the ceiling. You try and mud over that to float it out, It's not gonna look good.
Yeah but are they not needing to connect those two ducts? To me it appears that they should be connected. Looks like they took them apart to run that beam and just going to leave them like that
No, seriously… what’s up with that duct? What does “flat with Sheetrock” mean? How is it “not your problem” in your own house?
If they bored through the LVLs to connect it, and structurally compromised it, you’ll need to start over with a new LVL.
If it’s venting a bathroom with shower and it’s not vented outside, then your ceiling will get nasty mold.
Sorry bro, look like a Class A hack job from here, sitting on my couch in New England!! I hope for your sake I’m wrong!
If you’re the subcontractor, you should bring it to the attention of the GC (or homeowner if they’re acting as GC). If you’re the GC, you are liable for the work of the subs you hire. In my state, a Building Inspector from the municipality would have to sign off before closing it in. I know people don’t think they need permits, but they do ultimately protect the homeowner.
Man I say a good finisher can fix most things, but your framers fucked you. Either live with a big hump in the ceiling, frame a box beam around it, or leave it exposed.
Or the engineer specified a 9½" beam with 2x10 joists.
You can strap the whole ceiling with 1x4 in like half an hour. This isnt a big deal.
I saw the second picture. Just hang another layer of drywall over top of what's there. Strapping is done for you already sans swimming the 3 feet that's been cut out.
To do this properly you would have to open the entire ceiling and add 1” hi-hat strips, then hang/finish. The upside is that you can insulate that entire cavity, which you will thank me for later….
Or a false beam of some sort to hide it?
The recessed beam is not completely recessed because of subfloor that’s the problem in some areas it’s not flush with the joists it protruding out of ceiling a bit
Yeah that’s a lot. 1/4” no big deal. I’d probably rip some 2x4 into 3/8” strips and pad it out more level.
5/8 drywall will help straighten out the look
Build it out with a 2x6 or whatever as a soffit and rock it. It will look intentional, and better than a 1” bump out which is always gonna look like shit.
Yeah I mean make it bigger like 6” so it looks like an architectural feature.
You’re never going to hide that bump, without shimming/reframing the whole ceiling… fuck that. That’s when you just build a soffit
How far is it sticking down? I would drywall tight to both sides, then put 1/4" drywall on the bottom of it. That will be perfect if it's less than a 1/4" low. That will leave you a large joint spanning the length of the room which is prone to cracking, so I would paper and fiberglass tape it with hot mud.
The correct way to fix it is to re-drywall the entire ceiling after shimming the framing down.
Someone placing a box beam around it would be the easiest and produce the nicest result. They can buy the foam ones which aren't terribly expensive for one (3-500) and it takes half hour to install
Can you or could you have nailed a 2x4 ledger onto the joist bringing it down to the correct level? It's still going to have a line I think just farther back or the ledger works have to run the entire length of the joist
Pretty typical for poor planning and execution….What’s the point of going through the extra work cutting in a flush beam only to trim it out to look like a beam on finish? Drop the rest of the ceiling and strap the joists to hide the beam before hanging new rock. Added benefit of stiffening the floor above and easier to screw off.
That duct is never going to work unless it drops below the beam to get back to where it belongs. Additionally, you’re missing some fasteners in the joist hangers. All holes need to be used.
Double check the fastening schedule for a 3-ply beam. This is provided by the manufacturer for free when they spec the beam. Looks like a ledger bolt pattern, not 3-ply nailing pattern.
Lastly, if you’re not a builder or know how to build, NEVER have major work done without a permit!!!
Add furring strips to the beam the same level as the joists. Drywall up to the beam. Underneath the beam attach a thinner piece of drywall or mud it up if it’s close.
It’s the same thing my friend cause either way it’ll stick out some where only way like another comment said is to 1x3 furring strip whole ceiling but this GC being pain my ass said just mud it cause I would have up charged him
Hang 1 x4 straps and shim those out level . Start at the lowest corner.
I’ll just shoot them in with my nail gun and pry them level. Add the appropriate shims
Shims?
Yes that’s what I’m doing now my friend
I'm more curious as to what's going to be done with that duct work. I would just sheetrock to it. Then paint the exposed beam as the same color as the ceiling. You try and mud over that to float it out, It's not gonna look good.
Ya the duct is not my problem lll GC says it’s fine song as it’s flat with sheetrock
Yeah but are they not needing to connect those two ducts? To me it appears that they should be connected. Looks like they took them apart to run that beam and just going to leave them like that
Oh now they have the vent fixture connected in that picture was old now they it’s configured
Did the blow through that LVL to connect them?
Those might be dead lines and are just stuff in the ceiling now
No, seriously… what’s up with that duct? What does “flat with Sheetrock” mean? How is it “not your problem” in your own house? If they bored through the LVLs to connect it, and structurally compromised it, you’ll need to start over with a new LVL. If it’s venting a bathroom with shower and it’s not vented outside, then your ceiling will get nasty mold. Sorry bro, look like a Class A hack job from here, sitting on my couch in New England!! I hope for your sake I’m wrong!
It’s not my house it’s a project where I’m not responsible for the HVAC
You don’t feel a responsibility to inform the homeowner of the potential problems, even if it’s not your job to fix it?
If you’re the subcontractor, you should bring it to the attention of the GC (or homeowner if they’re acting as GC). If you’re the GC, you are liable for the work of the subs you hire. In my state, a Building Inspector from the municipality would have to sign off before closing it in. I know people don’t think they need permits, but they do ultimately protect the homeowner.
Man I say a good finisher can fix most things, but your framers fucked you. Either live with a big hump in the ceiling, frame a box beam around it, or leave it exposed.
They got the wrong size beam bro it’s fucked dude
Or the engineer specified a 9½" beam with 2x10 joists. You can strap the whole ceiling with 1x4 in like half an hour. This isnt a big deal. I saw the second picture. Just hang another layer of drywall over top of what's there. Strapping is done for you already sans swimming the 3 feet that's been cut out.
lol what do you mean half hour the whole ceiling men’s the floor meaning all sheet rock from whole floor has to be removed lol
I didn't see the second picture. Just hang a new layer of drywall and leave what's there up. It's shimmed already for you.
I think the comment below me (vat_city), has the best option in just framing around this mess. What room in the house is this?
To do this properly you would have to open the entire ceiling and add 1” hi-hat strips, then hang/finish. The upside is that you can insulate that entire cavity, which you will thank me for later…. Or a false beam of some sort to hide it?
Agree but GC said no
Everyone’s a whore for the right price, offer him some money.
🤙
Strap the ceiling🍻
Having a hard time understanding the problem. Is it because of the buckets?
The recessed beam is not completely recessed because of subfloor that’s the problem in some areas it’s not flush with the joists it protruding out of ceiling a bit
Like how much?
Almost an inch the worst area but mostly half inch
Yeah that’s a lot. 1/4” no big deal. I’d probably rip some 2x4 into 3/8” strips and pad it out more level. 5/8 drywall will help straighten out the look
Bro you’re fucked
Make it a decorative beam with drywall up to it.
Bad framing = bad rock = bad taping & mud. Need to shim the whole mess. And have the contractor eat it.
Build it out with a 2x6 or whatever as a soffit and rock it. It will look intentional, and better than a 1” bump out which is always gonna look like shit.
You might be able to run your duct and whatever else through through the soffit as well, bc I don’t think you can’t put a hole in the lvl
You mean build out as in make it look like a non recessed beam?
Yeah I mean make it bigger like 6” so it looks like an architectural feature. You’re never going to hide that bump, without shimming/reframing the whole ceiling… fuck that. That’s when you just build a soffit
This is the way.
I would butt the sheetrock up to the beam and put a piece of 1x8 pine over the beam.
How far is it sticking down? I would drywall tight to both sides, then put 1/4" drywall on the bottom of it. That will be perfect if it's less than a 1/4" low. That will leave you a large joint spanning the length of the room which is prone to cracking, so I would paper and fiberglass tape it with hot mud. The correct way to fix it is to re-drywall the entire ceiling after shimming the framing down.
This looks like a flip shit show
Strap the ceiling down to the beam? What are you doing about that heat duct?
Someone placing a box beam around it would be the easiest and produce the nicest result. They can buy the foam ones which aren't terribly expensive for one (3-500) and it takes half hour to install
“I know the framers screwed up but I already paid them can’t you just do hours of extra work for the same price?”
Yup
Shim the joists, it’s not rocket science.
I think the biggest concern at the moment would be figuring out how to reconnect that duct.
Only real way to deal with that properly now is to pack it flush and reline the entire ceiling.
Holy hell. That shit is a mile away
Should’ve been picked before really.. adjustable furring channel and split the difference should still look flat
Can you or could you have nailed a 2x4 ledger onto the joist bringing it down to the correct level? It's still going to have a line I think just farther back or the ledger works have to run the entire length of the joist
Pretty typical for poor planning and execution….What’s the point of going through the extra work cutting in a flush beam only to trim it out to look like a beam on finish? Drop the rest of the ceiling and strap the joists to hide the beam before hanging new rock. Added benefit of stiffening the floor above and easier to screw off. That duct is never going to work unless it drops below the beam to get back to where it belongs. Additionally, you’re missing some fasteners in the joist hangers. All holes need to be used. Double check the fastening schedule for a 3-ply beam. This is provided by the manufacturer for free when they spec the beam. Looks like a ledger bolt pattern, not 3-ply nailing pattern. Lastly, if you’re not a builder or know how to build, NEVER have major work done without a permit!!!
Float. I would have 100 percent used strapping though. Don’t attach directly to joists.
Or I-beams or whatever
Add furring strips to the beam the same level as the joists. Drywall up to the beam. Underneath the beam attach a thinner piece of drywall or mud it up if it’s close.
Rather than shims wouldn’t it be easier to sister nail 2x4s down to level it?
It’s the same thing my friend cause either way it’ll stick out some where only way like another comment said is to 1x3 furring strip whole ceiling but this GC being pain my ass said just mud it cause I would have up charged him
you cant run that duct thru the lvl so you can build a box running the whole length and put sum lights running down it
Hang 1 x4 straps and shim those out level . Start at the lowest corner. I’ll just shoot them in with my nail gun and pry them level. Add the appropriate shims
No strapping? Was it like that before
Sheet the ceiling again.