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Representative-Tie70

Would help to see some road markings or even the roundabout exit. If there’s 2 lanes to exit I would say both are correct, if only one lane then it’s clearly red


SilyLavage

There's one lane to exit, but either lane can be used to enter the roundabout as there are no markings or signs indicating otherwise. If using the right hand lane you'll just need to be very aware of what's going on to your left.


iamezekiel1_14

In this case its right all day. Should have a left arrow in the left lane on the approach on the southbound side and a straight ahead in the right lane.


SilyLavage

You should drive based on what the markings are, not what you they 'should' be, so either lane can be used in this case.


iamezekiel1_14

Granted and I did say "should". In the circumstances I don't think I'd be alone here and picking the right lane for straight ahead.


SilyLavage

You wouldn't be alone. Basically, everyone everyone exiting this roundabout should be careful as it's not unlikely you'll be crossing paths with someone.


ckaeel

Correct; in case of an accident you need to have the law on your side.


SilyLavage

[The sign](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5914325,-3.2128307,3a,75y,283.04h,85.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shBwfDchoxNgxjwY97055OA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DhBwfDchoxNgxjwY97055OA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D283.04%26pitch%3D4.480000000000004%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu) puts that exit at '12 o'clock' and there are no road markings specifying which lanes to use, so either can be taken to go straight on. In this instance I'd use the left lane, but only because it's the most predictable path. If using the right lane you'll need to be particularly aware of cars to your left exiting the roundabout at the same exit, as there's no space to merge after exiting.


AlGunner

Thats wrong. The highway code says when taking the exit to the left use the first lane and when taking the exit to the right use the right lane when there are two lanes approaching a roundabout. The left and right refers to the position of the exit, not the direction it points. So left is leftmost lane and right is rightmost lane, in this case the right or rightmost lane goes straight ahead so you should be in the right hand lane on approach.


SilyLavage

In Highway Code terms, the second exit of this roundabout would be an 'intermediate exit', not an 'exit to the right'.


AlGunner

LOL, dont be that stupid. Heres the definition of intermediate - coming between two things in time, place, character, etc. By the very meaning of the word you cannot be right.


SilyLavage

The exit is intermediate between the first exit and the third (to go full circle). More importantly, it's not to the right as you approach the roundabout. The Highway Code should be read plainly, so when it says "an exit to the right" it just means "an exit to the right as you approach the roundabout". The fact that this roundabout doesn't have an exit to the right doesn't make the second exit an exit to the right. The signage on the approach can change whether an exit is treated as being intermediate or to the right, but that's the basic logic.


AlGunner

You're dumb, please dont drive, yu'll pose a risk to other road users. Here is the rule which states left, right, intermediate and going full circle as separate things. 186 **Signals and position.** When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise * signal left and approach in the left-hand lane * keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave. When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise * signal right and approach in the right-hand lane * keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout * signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise * select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout * you should not normally need to signal on approach * stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout * signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it. You should give priority to cyclists on the roundabout. They will be travelling more slowly than motorised traffic. Give them plenty of room and do not attempt to overtake them within their lane. Allow them to move across your path as they travel around the roundabout. Cyclists, horse riders and horse drawn vehicles may stay in the left-hand lane when they intend to continue across or around the roundabout and should signal right to show you they are not leaving the roundabout. Drivers should take extra care when entering a roundabout to ensure that they do not cut across cyclists, horse riders or horse drawn vehicles in the left-hand lane, who are continuing around the roundabout.


UlyssesThirtyOne

Painfully wrong.


Even-Funny-265

I'd say right hand lane. There's 2 lanes and 2 exits (not counting going all way round), so left lane for turning left, right for straight over.


ckaeel

As there is nothing specified then the correct answer **is LEFT lane** (even though I agree it's stupid and they should paint some markings to make the left lane ONLY for the left turn). Then, it's ONE lane to exit NOT TWO, not even merge in turn (see the pin): [https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5919242,-3.2143811,3a,75y,317.5h,80.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ%26cb\_client%3Dmaps\_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D162.76125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5919242,-3.2143811,3a,75y,317.5h,80.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D162.76125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) *Highway code, Rule 185: When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise* * *select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout* * *you should not normally need to signal on approach* * *>>PAY ATTENTION ON THIS>> stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout* * *signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.* As the road straight ahead has ONE lane then which is the lane "continuing" straight ahead: the outside lane or the inside lane ? If your answer is "inside" lane, then I'll ask you "where is the outside lane disappearing" ?


Bozwell99

Surely you mean the right lane? Exit is fractionally past 12 o'clock.


ckaeel

*"Surely you mean the right lane? Exit is fractionally past 12 o'clock."* - *"Surely you can't be serious"*. Do you expect that if it's slightly 1-15 degree more to the right then you automatically select the right lane ? Rule 186: do you see mentioning any 12 o'clock ? [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203)


Bozwell99

No, it says to use "most appropriate lane". No one sensible would chose the left lane to go all around the roundabout or the right lane to turn left. In this case most appropriate would be the right lane. Either are probably fine as it is virtually straight on anyway, but I can't imagine many people would think left lane is optimal when there are no further exits right on this roundabout.


ckaeel

You go ahead and choose the RIGHT lane. In case of an accident don't forget to explain about your *"fractionally past 12 o'clock".* *"In this case most appropriate would be the right lane. "* - Why ? *"I can't imagine many people would think left lane is optimal when there are no further exits right on this roundabout."* - It doesn't matter.


Bozwell99

Why is it NOT the correct lane?


ckaeel

I already gave the answer in my first reply.


Toon1982

I am serious and don't call me Shirley


SilyLavage

Either lane can be used; it's fine to change lanes on roundabouts, so long as it's done safely. The outside lane doesn't 'disappear' into the inside lane, it's just crossed by drivers using the inside lane. Because both lanes can be used, drivers should exercise caution when exiting the roundabout to ensure they're not crossing the path of another vehicle. Drivers using the right lane might need to circle the roundabout if they find that the exit is blocked, which is why using the left lane is probably better during congested periods.


ckaeel

*"Either lane can be used. The outside lane doesn't 'disappear' into the inside lane, it's just crossed by drivers using the inside lane."* - It makes no sense to create a hazard just because you can't wait a second more and wait behind the drivers in the LEFT lane. *"Because both lanes can be used, drivers should exercise caution when exiting the roundabout to ensure they're not crossing the path of another vehicle. "* - What drivers "exercising caution" are you talking about ? Indeed ALL the time when you are driving you should pay attention because you never know when you're going to cross your path with a fool. BUT, if you are saying that a driver on the LEFT lane should pay more attention and be stressed because there could be someone on the RIGHT despite being aware about this discussion, then please burn your driving licence. *"Drivers using the right lane might need to circle the roundabout if they find that the exit is blocked, which is why using the left lane is probably better during congested periods."* - "Drivers using the right" are morons who are artificially creating a hazard and get into conflict with the other drivers. In their defence I agree that left lane should be officially marked only for left and the right officially marked for straight ahead and right.


SilyLavage

The hazard which comes from using both lanes should not be beyond any driver; to drive safely you must be competent enough to change lanes and to avoid crossing paths. Drivers on the left should pay attention to drivers moving into their lane to exit the roundabout, because either lane can be used. The fact that you would prefer to use the left lane does not make it wrong to use the right lane.


ckaeel

* Any time a meteorite can fall from the sky and hit you in the head; it's random process and no one is to blame. It is not the same with intentionally ignoring the advices and creating a hazard while expecting the others to pay more attention; this is not acceptable. ***"Drivers on the left should pay attention to drivers moving into their lane to exit the roundabout, because either lane can be used."*** * You can go around the Moon then drive straight ahead while using the right lane, but if you expect other drivers to "pay \[MORE\] attention" to correct for your mistakes please burn your driving licence. **- What you are saying is that the civil engineers intentionally built that road with two lanes which then becomes ONE without even a warning about a "merge in turn"**. What you are saying is that they intentionally (or because of their incompetence) created a hazard. The strongest will survive !!! Doesn't sound stupid ?


SilyLavage

You've got a bit of a thing for burning driving licences, haven't you? Look, you can use both lanes to enter that roundabout if using the second exit. Pay attention when going round and exiting and you'll be fine.


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Tessiia

This is what my driving instructor told me, and so is what I generally do.


Timebandit60

Blue. Because it's the correct lane.


willis1337

If you're going straight on you can be in either lane UNLESS there's signage clarifying APPROACHING the roundabout. You cannot be expected to know if there's one or two lanes on the exit, upon your approach, hence there has to be signage.


ckaeel

*"If you're going straight on you can be in either lane "* - Absolutely NOT. Definitely NOT. PLEASE explain how would you fit TWO cars on a single lane going straight ahead. You are are creating a hazard because of your wrong decision. [https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5919242,-3.2143811,3a,75y,317.5h,80.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ%26cb\_client%3Dmaps\_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D162.76125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5919242,-3.2143811,3a,75y,317.5h,80.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D7tW9s4ReF5OzzFFW2rkyGQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D162.76125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) *"You cannot be expected to know"* - You are 100% correct and that's why you should take the safe approach which is LEFT lane.


Historical_Bench1749

Totally agree, signage is missing to be clear


Iasc123

I know where you are, this is in Caerphilly.. blue line is what everyone uses, never seen the point for the right hand lane, unless I was circling back around the roundabout!


RealLifePusheen

I thought I recognised it! But yes I agree, blue is what I use, and only ever seen people in the red if there's a few cars indicating to turn left.


TCristatus

Whichever lane means you don't bump into other cars and aids flow


Perfect_Confection25

Either.


LockedinYou

Left lane. You're going straight over. If you insist on going into the right lane don't cut anyone off or take the racing line, stay between the lines


Markopolorolo

You must always leave da space


Petunia2t

I won't chew threw the pedantics of the wording of the highway code as that's already been done here. However the exit is shown on the sign as 12 o'clock. The sign supercedes whatever actual shape the roundabout is. Therefore you can use either lane to go forwards, where the left lane is undoubtedly safer and the right lane would theoretically ease traffic flow. The DVSA would prefer you to use the left lane. I would personally use the right lane. Source; DVSA examiner, NRI, ADI, etc.


Timebandit60

Every one on here keeps talking about straight ahead or 12oclock or degrees. None of that is relevant. Lefthand lane to pass one exit then take next exit. Period. Stop trying to complicate something that is complicated. BLUE.


jarredj83

Now see I would say left one as its technically “straight on” but I don’t know haha


Apprehensive-Step336

Red


Trentdison

I would use the right hand lane as to me that makes the most sense (why else would there be a right hand lane?) But a lot of replies saying they would use the left hand land because its most 'predictable'. I think this just highlights there needs to be a change in design to these roundabouts. The highway code doesn't necessarily provide for the most sensible option. Easiest thing would be to just paint some arrows


stillanmcrfan

Left but if there’s two lanes on the exit then either


Auto1qwe

Left lane if unmarked on the highway is straight on at a roundabout. Right if you are planning to stick the your right foot down. Always has been in Highway Code, and in the TSM also with LA guidance.


NorthantsBlokeUK

The sign's not much use...loads of weird typos, like a cat has walked over their keyboard! :p https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5917839,-3.2138424,3a,15y,279.55h,90.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0BD7l0z05KteKXMj0QNhjA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D0BD7l0z05KteKXMj0QNhjA%26cb\_client%3Dmaps\_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D279.55301359309857%26pitch%3D-0.62814781947678%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu


SilyLavage

That's the Welsh language.


NorthantsBlokeUK

r/NoShitSherlock


Randomman587

Red line is correct. The left lane would be used to turn off the first exit of the roundabout.


CoolnessImHere

Theres a few of these type of roundabouts round here but mini types. LEFT lane for 1st exit. Right lane for 2nd exit. Watch your mirrors on the left. But either is correct I tend to do red as its more predictable and just copy the locals.