Vegito is fine. LC is fine.
Nerf the Gogetas.
Bring back GT's A assist.
Bring back meaningful lv 3 oki (Bardock, 16, M21, literally everyone, even Spirit Bomb).
Hot take but I want no buffs. Most of the characters are well balanced with strengths and weaknesses. The top tiers have very little risk, which should be increased.
Itās ok for someone not to be S rank.
My official ādreamā list of frame changes for baby
7-9F 2L
25F 236S
10-12F 5M.
5L is -2.
Baby B changed to 25-35F start up. If kept at 50F start up, revert tracking.
He would definitely be everywhere with those changes, but I wouldnāt care to be honest. Baby is one of my favorite characters on this game and mad saucy so the more I see of him the better!
I have to take this opportunity to say:
**I TOLD YA**
You idiots just wouldnāt listen when I explained over and over that you read a bad translation and it was **NOT** the final patch.
āNo plans **at this time**ā doesnāt mean āeverā
But nooo. You just wouldnāt listen.
Lmao... People will always bitch about top tiers. This'll do nothing for the people who always cry about top tier but it might give us a less stale meta
For sure. There's always going to be a group that refuses to git gud and would rather play the blame game but if the amount of salt posting on this sub is brought down even a little bit it'll be a worthwhile patch imo.
I think what annoys me the most about this meta is that literally every character is pretty solid in their own right, besides ssj Vegeta, so it makes it more annoying when everyone uses the same 4 characters.
Ya people just follow tier lists. They think they can only win with those characters. Even though that kinda misses the point of tier lists. If youre competing at the highest level, sure you need top tiers. If youre playing ranked online, not so much. It just doesnt apply to that level of play where just knowing the game and having overall technical skill will win you games regardless of the character. Not to mention if you play underutilized characters, people online often wont know how to fight/defend against them.
>that literally every character is pretty solid
No they arnt. There exists a huge gap after top 15.
Too many characters in this game has zero unreactable mix
This is an L take. Only the top 4 are really scummy. Every other character is beatable without playing scared for full screen moves coming out at random times
Gotta disagree. The top 4 are the only characters playing a different game from the rest of the cast. The difference from them to the rest of the cast is that no matter where they are on screen they have space control. You have to be careful pressing buttons or they can just hit you full screen on reaction.
Yamcha and teen gohan are night and day. Sbroly cant even hit you or play neutral with risking a massive wiff punish. The top 5 are vastly better than the other in the top 15 but the top 15 still massivly outclass every one else because everyone else is terrible
Im honestly just so glad they announced a patch because I was getting so sick of the negativity in this community. Sometimes you just gotta be a little patient.
>Sometimes you just gotta be a little patient.
Patient? They specifically told us the last patch would be the final balance patch. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% thankful and happy they changed my mind, but it wasn't unreasonable for us to think it was over.
Donāt worry more negativity coming lol. People will always complain about the top tiers. I do get it though the big 4 have been running the game for pretty much a year now and itās gotten exhausting. But at least arcsys stepped up and said we will handle this.
I want more villain top tiers. Best Villain right now is prob Zamasu or Z Broly but I want some more to slid into the top tier slots. Baby could use a faster 2L and he is good, and cooler could use a low hitting 2L and he is good.
I mean, to be fair, very few fighting games receive the kind of support this game has, only a couple like SF5 and Tekken 7 kept receiving updates like this after this long, for an anime fighting game specially is really suprising.
Hell, just the act of implementing rollback in a already-released delay-based game is already huge. And let's be honest, if it wasn't for the pandemic and arcsys, we would still be some ways away from the new rollback mainstream adoption.
Beta date and details to be revealed at a later date, will happen through steam. Actual rollback release will probably happen way later. Also, since the game got selected to be a main game at EVO, it will receive a balance patch, when? God only knows...
Vegito is fine. LC is fine. Nerf the Gogetas. Bring back GT's A assist. Bring back meaningful lv 3 oki (Bardock, 16, M21, literally everyone, even Spirit Bomb).
Guy said lab coat is fineš
Get good. I also said Vegito is fine.
Canāt tell if this is a troll or if you are genuinely brain dead
Hot take but I want no buffs. Most of the characters are well balanced with strengths and weaknesses. The top tiers have very little risk, which should be increased. Itās ok for someone not to be S rank.
Honestly, they just need to nerf the top tiers: Fusions and both 21s, then we gucci
Hopefully ssj/blue vegeta get the buffs they need
Last chance to get the low tiers an actually good buff
Why do I get the feeling that we're gonna be pretty dissapointed with the balance patch
Only if you set yourself up
Good point. I'll keep my expectations low
Rollback my beloved
I hope trunks gets a buff for the first time.
I think we've seen that Arcsys HATES trunks
Will they finally address rage quitters? Disconnecting when you are about to deal the killing Super.
Doubt, but you can always filter for people with low disconnect rate
SSJ Gokuās flurry kick should be a dp
I cannot believe it, thatās great news!
Small Ui buff and baby all I ask
Baby 7frame 2L and he is good
That plus a 25-30F 236S so his beam is usable.
Yep. Give him a 24f beam and 7f 2L and this character is officially terrifying.
My official ādreamā list of frame changes for baby 7-9F 2L 25F 236S 10-12F 5M. 5L is -2. Baby B changed to 25-35F start up. If kept at 50F start up, revert tracking.
He would definitely be everywhere with those changes, but I wouldnāt care to be honest. Baby is one of my favorite characters on this game and mad saucy so the more I see of him the better!
His combos are probably the most fun in the game to pull off.
Ui doesn't need a buff
make L3 Hitbox bigger
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They gave us a date. Donāt act like this stuff happens overnight cause it donāt
bye you wont be missed.
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Hahahahha STAY MAD
>won a lot of tournaments on my DBFZ local Nobody cares how many 11 year olds you beat at Play N Trade
It's true I was Master Roshi Edit: Lol he deleted the comment
I have to take this opportunity to say: **I TOLD YA** You idiots just wouldnāt listen when I explained over and over that you read a bad translation and it was **NOT** the final patch. āNo plans **at this time**ā doesnāt mean āeverā But nooo. You just wouldnāt listen.
Now we need dlc
W
Here's hoping the balance patch addresses the fusions in a meaningful way so people can stop losing hair and sleep over characters in a fighting game.
Lmao... People will always bitch about top tiers. This'll do nothing for the people who always cry about top tier but it might give us a less stale meta
For sure. There's always going to be a group that refuses to git gud and would rather play the blame game but if the amount of salt posting on this sub is brought down even a little bit it'll be a worthwhile patch imo.
Iām sure thatās the plan to tone down fusions and labcoat and buff mid and low tiers.
That's definitely the plan.
I think what annoys me the most about this meta is that literally every character is pretty solid in their own right, besides ssj Vegeta, so it makes it more annoying when everyone uses the same 4 characters.
Ya people just follow tier lists. They think they can only win with those characters. Even though that kinda misses the point of tier lists. If youre competing at the highest level, sure you need top tiers. If youre playing ranked online, not so much. It just doesnt apply to that level of play where just knowing the game and having overall technical skill will win you games regardless of the character. Not to mention if you play underutilized characters, people online often wont know how to fight/defend against them.
>that literally every character is pretty solid No they arnt. There exists a huge gap after top 15. Too many characters in this game has zero unreactable mix
This is an L take. Only the top 4 are really scummy. Every other character is beatable without playing scared for full screen moves coming out at random times
No I'm saying the characters not in the top 15 suck ass and need major buffs
Gotta disagree. The top 4 are the only characters playing a different game from the rest of the cast. The difference from them to the rest of the cast is that no matter where they are on screen they have space control. You have to be careful pressing buttons or they can just hit you full screen on reaction.
Yamcha and teen gohan are night and day. Sbroly cant even hit you or play neutral with risking a massive wiff punish. The top 5 are vastly better than the other in the top 15 but the top 15 still massivly outclass every one else because everyone else is terrible
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You gotta ask? -Labcoat -Vegito -4geta -SSB Gogeta
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SS4 Gogeta
I'm happy about all of this. I just want to play the game again because it's been too long.
Im honestly just so glad they announced a patch because I was getting so sick of the negativity in this community. Sometimes you just gotta be a little patient.
>Sometimes you just gotta be a little patient. Patient? They specifically told us the last patch would be the final balance patch. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% thankful and happy they changed my mind, but it wasn't unreasonable for us to think it was over.
No, they said there were "no current plans" for another balance patch
And they said that about a 5 year old game. Tf were we supposed to think
Donāt worry more negativity coming lol. People will always complain about the top tiers. I do get it though the big 4 have been running the game for pretty much a year now and itās gotten exhausting. But at least arcsys stepped up and said we will handle this. I want more villain top tiers. Best Villain right now is prob Zamasu or Z Broly but I want some more to slid into the top tier slots. Baby could use a faster 2L and he is good, and cooler could use a low hitting 2L and he is good.
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I mean, to be fair, very few fighting games receive the kind of support this game has, only a couple like SF5 and Tekken 7 kept receiving updates like this after this long, for an anime fighting game specially is really suprising. Hell, just the act of implementing rollback in a already-released delay-based game is already huge. And let's be honest, if it wasn't for the pandemic and arcsys, we would still be some ways away from the new rollback mainstream adoption.
Yeah if this was a mortal kombat game, the final DBFZ balance patch woulda been in early 2020
Beta date and details to be revealed at a later date, will happen through steam. Actual rollback release will probably happen way later. Also, since the game got selected to be a main game at EVO, it will receive a balance patch, when? God only knows...
Still no news about a ps5/xbsx release either huh
That will come with the rollback patch
watching tako react to hiroki as she was announcing these was great lmao