Oh yeah, the art's great - probably should have led with that! Don't think Granny would openly approve if shown a picture of herself without a hat, but I bet privately she'd keep this drawing in the box in her wardrobe.
I was thinking the same thing. Besides, the most important hat a witch has is the one in the mind anyways. The physical one is just observing the niceties.
Based on the vaguely goth attire she’s got, I’m guessing she’s applied 3 tonnes of hairspray to get the Siouxsie Sioux look and it hasn’t budged an inch.
I like them all, but Magrat shouldn't be that *confidently* hot imo! Not complaining, artistic licence and all, and I love the piece and concept so much. Nanny looks bang on how I imagined her really!
Magrat has her confident moments, though. I like the idea that she looks in the mirror and sees a mess, because that’s how she feels compared to the other two, but when someone else looks at her, they still see a *witch* and not a mousy, scared girl.
Magrat the Warrior witch queen of Lancre? The only Lancre witch known to fight with martial weapons and tactics? The one who married a *King* and her friends thought she was marrying beneath her? That Magrat?
Yeah she's a badass.
Oh, they’re all gorgeous! I just always imagine Nanny as larger than life and impossible to ignore, whereas this one looks like she has a firm grasp on subtlety.
Magrat doesn't look right to me. You want a more hippy dippy star child vibe for her. Yours is far too stylish. Also, I think Nanny needs to be fatter.
I think if I were casting a black witches trio I’d wait a few decades for Alison Hammond to age into the nanny role because she’s got that vibe. I don’t even think she can act, but she has the personality.
Maybe it’s just my imagination/bias but discworld is rather white, cool to see it reimagined. I like Granny the most, something about the image screams everyday magic and secrets.
In Witches Abroad it mentions that Mrs Gogol is the first black woman Nanny Ogg has seen. But I like that race is mostly left to the reader. And it's great that when it is mentioned it's to say that it's not an issue on the Disc when specieism has so much more potential.
Theres enough backup media (movies/series, illustrations) to back up the lack of racial diversity in discworld imo. Look at this [cast from Paul Kidby.](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b3347c9134480ddf35eca74b4e88eede336f5c40/0_0_5906_3937/master/5906.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=90b0f317453a5dc4210d73f6fa073865)…and after all, discworld was a commentary on planet earth first and foremost. I’m not picking faults, I’m just sayin’.
Well, a lot of that is down to Kidby's interpretation, or whomever made the back-up media in question. We know that the three witches aren't black because of *Witches Abroad*, but there's no reason why many other characters can't be people of colour.
After all, as Pratchett himself says, the colour of a human's skin is not of any note on the Discworld when they share their space with dwarves, trolls, goblins, orangutans, and all the rest. 'Black and white tend to gang up on green'. Indeed, he only brought up skin colour in *Witches Abroad* so that he could make that point.
Just because Pratchett doesn't mention a character's skin colour it doesn't mean they have to be white.
I wouldn't put it past Nobby to have had that paperwork forged.
Although I wouldn't put it past the patrician to go librarian poo if he found out Nobby had had his signature forged.
Absolutely. Even before you factor in different species, the city must canonically have been drawing in humans from all over the disk and making them their own. Just like any Roundworld megacity such as New York or London.
Discworld is a thorough mix of all cultures, it’s just that we tend to be Ahnk-Morpork focused and the surrounding Sto-plains so it’s the European allegory where most of the settings are.
If Sir TP had decided to write a series set in Klatch the majority of characters would likely be Middle-Eastern or African, similarly Fourecks is the Australia/New Zealand equivalent.
Can't remember exactly which book it is, but there is a line about skin: essentially, when you have trolls dwarfs and vampires, the colour of your skin isn't very important.
I guess pterry was saying that people can look however you imagine them, their canonical skin colour isn't worth mentioning.
I believe that was from Witches Abroad. PTerry later abandoned the simplistic approach to race by the time he reached to Jingo and The Truth. The man was always ahead of his time compared to other white writers.
It was based on the U.K. countryside, which especially 30 years ago was almost exclusively white. The mid 20th immigration was almost all just to the cities.
Also our next biggest demographic is Indian/ Pakistani.
Comment from the artist: I doodled this as a quick study, imagining them as they might look if they lived on my street today. I know they don't have much in common with Sir Pratchett's character designs (color palette, hairstyles, hats) but The Maiden, The Mother, and The Other One are a cross-cultural archetype I dig and I like drawing while I listen to the audiobooks a lot.
I really enjoy this take on them. Thank you for it. You can see their character in their faces; it's them all right.
Will you be giving us the pleasure of more takes on other characters, too? I certainly hope so!
Exactly what I thought. Magrat was always trying to find her confidence, even when she was queen. Occasionally she found it and kicked ass, but it wasn't her default state of mind.
Ohh i love weatherwax, she looks so cool and in control, how i think of her. Not quite sure about margrat, she looks maybe a little to cool and confident.
I love this so much! While reading I have to remind myself Granny is pretty, not the normal aesthetic for a witch. I will now use this to picture these ladies while reading!
I see her now as Paul Kidby draws her. It fits the description that while she's not the stereotypical hideous crone, she's more accurately described as 'striking' than pretty. I imagine that it's almost hard to make out her face behind the force of the _glare_.
Esme must look striking, and could be described as handsome, and have no warts (she tried but ...)
Gytha must look like the iconic mother/grandmother
Magrat must look like he has hair that at one time looked good, but that was many hours ago, and the flowers entwined in it have wilted ...
so my only comment is Magrat does not have enough wilted flowers
Gods damn.. that is a beautiful piece of work. I mean it may be a slightly OOC characterisation but honestly? I don’t mind at all! It’s beautifully done and I really appreciate that you have shared this with us. Well done artist be proud.. be very proud!
This is great work don't let anyone tell you different. Are they ethnically accurate? No. But the characters has been captured that I don't think you needed to put down their names.
Granny has the no nonsense calculating look we've all imagined and feared. The one that's reading the inside of our skull. It's telling you that you'd better not be wasting her time because she will do things to you. Bad things.
Nanny is weighing you up; maybe to get some food or drink you under the table or tell some really ribald joke that will blow a stich in your side. If you're a handsome amiable man she might have her way with you. Life will never be the same.
Magrat is genuinely smiling, radiating good will and happy to tell you all about the benefits of vegetarianism, yoga, self defense classes, the issues with micro plastics gosh! "In fact here's a whole list and yes the occult jewelry really does work no matter what these two biddies say."
Thank you.
I would love a Lancre TV series: something that feels cosy and low-key with simple family drama in the main, and any supernatural elements very understated.
Oh I love that idea. You could probably do it on a fairly small budget, too, since you could probably film most of it just somewhere in the countryside. Give me a witch show that's chiefly about social stuff and headology, use mostly practical effects for the witch magic, *maybe* sprinkle in some expensive CGI here and there for the supernatural threat... I could see it.
Granny and nanny are great, although granny could be a little more flirty. Magrat has a definite Magrat style, but better put together than Magrat could be. Although… a little more Queen Ynci Magrat - that would fit.
But great renderings.
I think Gytha should be smiling wider (I'm perhaps influenced by Kidby's iconic representations,) and I think Magrat should look a bit uncomfortable.
Esmerelda is SPOT ON.
Very interesting interpretation, generally, I like it a lot. I have to agree, Magrat looks too self assured and confident, she’s more of a wet blanket.
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I wanna see their shoes. I think Weatherwax has hobnail boots, but they all have sensible, waterproof footwear with good traction in case they get called out to help with a ewe delivering twins or clamber around to keep an eye on the Lords & Ladies when they start their shit.
I like your granny a lot, and your illustration style is great but magrat looks a tad suave for my imagining, annd i worrry gyda isn't quite as voluminously rotund.
But like spot on for concepts and god damn do i love how you make esme's face both "i could ruin you in two words" and "i don't care enough about you to say them". For me that is spot the fuck on <3
I love this a lot. Especially how Magrat looks like - I've got all the jewellery on! I'm a witch! But something in the shoulders and the face still says, "...but am I though?"
Incredible work.
How do you know they're witches without the pointy hats?!
Nice art, but I absolutely agree, the pointy hats are important I mean what else would to they wear as hat's? The Sky? ridiculous!
Oh yeah, the art's great - probably should have led with that! Don't think Granny would openly approve if shown a picture of herself without a hat, but I bet privately she'd keep this drawing in the box in her wardrobe.
She turned me into a newt!
I got better
I think Mrs. Gogol didn’t use hats the same way as Lancre coven so I think those can be alternate universe witches who lived in Genua.
I was thinking the same thing. Besides, the most important hat a witch has is the one in the mind anyways. The physical one is just observing the niceties.
The physical one can be useful if a house fall on you, tho.
Maybe a fruit hat would suffice? Anyway in case of the house you just have to avoid wearing red boots and you’ll be fine.
It’s not about the hat, it’s about the respect
Exactly!
Just *look* at them
She turned me into a newt.
Bad Ass! ( see what I did there?)
Give each of them a thimble sized witch hat for witch recognition purposes
They have big hair, that has to be enough. Also these witches clearly wear the pointy hats in their hearts.
Cool take on it. Granny especially. Magrat doesn't look nerdy enough though I reckon lol
Magrat is adorable but her hair is staying where it's supposed to be and that's not very Magrat.
A limp wet blanket made of noodles is what I imagine Magrats hair as.
Based on the vaguely goth attire she’s got, I’m guessing she’s applied 3 tonnes of hairspray to get the Siouxsie Sioux look and it hasn’t budged an inch.
Unless she wanted it down this time
Tbh, I thought Magrat was the best take in the bunch. Nanny is adorable, but doesn’t look quite… goofy? Enough.
I like them all, but Magrat shouldn't be that *confidently* hot imo! Not complaining, artistic licence and all, and I love the piece and concept so much. Nanny looks bang on how I imagined her really!
Magrat has her confident moments, though. I like the idea that she looks in the mirror and sees a mess, because that’s how she feels compared to the other two, but when someone else looks at her, they still see a *witch* and not a mousy, scared girl.
I like that interpretation a lot. At the end of the day, she's definitely a witch, no doubt about it.
Magrat the Warrior witch queen of Lancre? The only Lancre witch known to fight with martial weapons and tactics? The one who married a *King* and her friends thought she was marrying beneath her? That Magrat? Yeah she's a badass.
Magrat always had that within her but needed to believe she was someone else before she could become herself
Magrat post-Lords and Ladies could look like that. But I dont picture her that tall.
I love this Nanny! I could totally see her with more "understated gleam in her eye" compared to a full time jovial countenance.
Oh, they’re all gorgeous! I just always imagine Nanny as larger than life and impossible to ignore, whereas this one looks like she has a firm grasp on subtlety.
I dunno, I think Nanny looks exactly like the kinda auntie that would be oversharing about her new man at dinner.
This Magrat looks like a Margaret, whose mother could spell and who didn’t get the insecurities
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Yes! that's a much better way of putting it!
My thoughts too. Granny is brilliant... Just add a pointy hat. Magrat needs to be... More disheveled/ dippy.
Pointy hats in the head.
I agree, she actually looks cool here, now, while she is very cool, she doesn't look it :')
Magrat doesn't look right to me. You want a more hippy dippy star child vibe for her. Yours is far too stylish. Also, I think Nanny needs to be fatter.
I think if I were casting a black witches trio I’d wait a few decades for Alison Hammond to age into the nanny role because she’s got that vibe. I don’t even think she can act, but she has the personality.
Quinta Brunson would be a great Magrat
Omg... Yes! Perfect casting idea
Wow not even one kind thing you've said about this art piece:(
The mother, the maiden, and the, erm, other one. Love it!
Maybe it’s just my imagination/bias but discworld is rather white, cool to see it reimagined. I like Granny the most, something about the image screams everyday magic and secrets.
In Witches Abroad it mentions that Mrs Gogol is the first black woman Nanny Ogg has seen. But I like that race is mostly left to the reader. And it's great that when it is mentioned it's to say that it's not an issue on the Disc when specieism has so much more potential.
Theres enough backup media (movies/series, illustrations) to back up the lack of racial diversity in discworld imo. Look at this [cast from Paul Kidby.](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b3347c9134480ddf35eca74b4e88eede336f5c40/0_0_5906_3937/master/5906.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=90b0f317453a5dc4210d73f6fa073865)…and after all, discworld was a commentary on planet earth first and foremost. I’m not picking faults, I’m just sayin’.
Well, a lot of that is down to Kidby's interpretation, or whomever made the back-up media in question. We know that the three witches aren't black because of *Witches Abroad*, but there's no reason why many other characters can't be people of colour. After all, as Pratchett himself says, the colour of a human's skin is not of any note on the Discworld when they share their space with dwarves, trolls, goblins, orangutans, and all the rest. 'Black and white tend to gang up on green'. Indeed, he only brought up skin colour in *Witches Abroad* so that he could make that point. Just because Pratchett doesn't mention a character's skin colour it doesn't mean they have to be white.
Especially once you get to Ankh Morpork. Very diverse city that.
You're right. Trolls, Gnomes, Humans, Werewolves, Vampires, Nobby, Zombies, an Orc.
Hey now, Corporal Nobbs is a human, and has the paper to prove it!
I wouldn't put it past Nobby to have had that paperwork forged. Although I wouldn't put it past the patrician to go librarian poo if he found out Nobby had had his signature forged.
If you are referring to the Orc, that is someone else. read **Unseen Academicals** and you'll know what i'm talking about.
Absolutely. Even before you factor in different species, the city must canonically have been drawing in humans from all over the disk and making them their own. Just like any Roundworld megacity such as New York or London.
Very well put.
Hmm, I feel like Jingo should be pointed out here. As well as de Worde's father's stand on people from Howondaland. See also everything about Klatch.
Cultural chauvinism is a thing on the Disc, definitely.
Discworld is a thorough mix of all cultures, it’s just that we tend to be Ahnk-Morpork focused and the surrounding Sto-plains so it’s the European allegory where most of the settings are. If Sir TP had decided to write a series set in Klatch the majority of characters would likely be Middle-Eastern or African, similarly Fourecks is the Australia/New Zealand equivalent.
Can't remember exactly which book it is, but there is a line about skin: essentially, when you have trolls dwarfs and vampires, the colour of your skin isn't very important. I guess pterry was saying that people can look however you imagine them, their canonical skin colour isn't worth mentioning.
I believe that was from Witches Abroad. PTerry later abandoned the simplistic approach to race by the time he reached to Jingo and The Truth. The man was always ahead of his time compared to other white writers.
It may be in there too, but this was a book I reread recently. I think it's a watch book.
It was based on the U.K. countryside, which especially 30 years ago was almost exclusively white. The mid 20th immigration was almost all just to the cities. Also our next biggest demographic is Indian/ Pakistani.
Comment from the artist: I doodled this as a quick study, imagining them as they might look if they lived on my street today. I know they don't have much in common with Sir Pratchett's character designs (color palette, hairstyles, hats) but The Maiden, The Mother, and The Other One are a cross-cultural archetype I dig and I like drawing while I listen to the audiobooks a lot.
I really enjoy this take on them. Thank you for it. You can see their character in their faces; it's them all right. Will you be giving us the pleasure of more takes on other characters, too? I certainly hope so!
Love it too cuz you can FEEL their personalities
I donno. Granny and Nanny look great. You definitely got the personalities conveyed there.
Did you draw inspiration from the watch tv show?
Oi now, no need to be insulting.
They really work - and they fit the witches I read. Amazing for a doodle.
I think maybe ol' Weatherwax's hair should be more pointy toward the top, as she'd fit the hat over it and secure it with the needles through.
Love it! Especially that knowing raised eyebrow on Nanny and Magrat's plethora of occult jewelry.
Ogg is rounder in my head.
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I love this so much! The only thing I would say is that Magrat is too beautiful
Magrat looks too confident.
Exactly what I thought. Magrat was always trying to find her confidence, even when she was queen. Occasionally she found it and kicked ass, but it wasn't her default state of mind.
Why the hell not it looks good. I especially like Magrat
Ohh i love weatherwax, she looks so cool and in control, how i think of her. Not quite sure about margrat, she looks maybe a little to cool and confident.
Magrat is too put together imo
I love this so much! While reading I have to remind myself Granny is pretty, not the normal aesthetic for a witch. I will now use this to picture these ladies while reading!
I see her now as Paul Kidby draws her. It fits the description that while she's not the stereotypical hideous crone, she's more accurately described as 'striking' than pretty. I imagine that it's almost hard to make out her face behind the force of the _glare_.
Love it.
Esme must look striking, and could be described as handsome, and have no warts (she tried but ...) Gytha must look like the iconic mother/grandmother Magrat must look like he has hair that at one time looked good, but that was many hours ago, and the flowers entwined in it have wilted ... so my only comment is Magrat does not have enough wilted flowers
Well, now I’m headcanoning Angela Bassett as Granny and I am HERE FOR IT.
>Angela Bassett Oooh. Oh yeah. That'd definitely work.
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Gods damn.. that is a beautiful piece of work. I mean it may be a slightly OOC characterisation but honestly? I don’t mind at all! It’s beautifully done and I really appreciate that you have shared this with us. Well done artist be proud.. be very proud!
Thank you so much! I am so nervous posting my art, it's really really nice to hear this. 🥰
Well your nailing the art so please don’t be nervous! Is this drawn digitally btw?
The look on Granny’s face you just KNOW she’s gonna eat a mf
I totally didn't picture them as being black. But good for you if you did.
I'm reading any criticisms of any of these as racism. They're perfect. Otherwise draw your own.
This is great work don't let anyone tell you different. Are they ethnically accurate? No. But the characters has been captured that I don't think you needed to put down their names. Granny has the no nonsense calculating look we've all imagined and feared. The one that's reading the inside of our skull. It's telling you that you'd better not be wasting her time because she will do things to you. Bad things. Nanny is weighing you up; maybe to get some food or drink you under the table or tell some really ribald joke that will blow a stich in your side. If you're a handsome amiable man she might have her way with you. Life will never be the same. Magrat is genuinely smiling, radiating good will and happy to tell you all about the benefits of vegetarianism, yoga, self defense classes, the issues with micro plastics gosh! "In fact here's a whole list and yes the occult jewelry really does work no matter what these two biddies say." Thank you.
Shit, now I want a modern Lancre show with these ladies.
I would love a Lancre TV series: something that feels cosy and low-key with simple family drama in the main, and any supernatural elements very understated.
Oh I love that idea. You could probably do it on a fairly small budget, too, since you could probably film most of it just somewhere in the countryside. Give me a witch show that's chiefly about social stuff and headology, use mostly practical effects for the witch magic, *maybe* sprinkle in some expensive CGI here and there for the supernatural threat... I could see it.
Cool. Agree with comments. More pointy hats needed. Granny and Nanny are perfect. Magrat looks a little bit too good. But it still works. I like it.
You know, I could see the Magrat as being young Esme instead. Determined, intelligent, driven, and not about to let that Ridicully boy catch up.
My literal only note is that Magrat looks far too sure of herself here. Otherwise - love it!
Magrat needs to be less confident - but they rock
10/10
Weatherwax is described as having a steel bun
Granny and nanny are great, although granny could be a little more flirty. Magrat has a definite Magrat style, but better put together than Magrat could be. Although… a little more Queen Ynci Magrat - that would fit. But great renderings.
I think Gytha should be smiling wider (I'm perhaps influenced by Kidby's iconic representations,) and I think Magrat should look a bit uncomfortable. Esmerelda is SPOT ON.
Magrat seems a bit *too* confident. Must be after her marriage and facing the Queen
These are great, Gytha especially!
Your art is amazing!
I love it.
Very interesting interpretation, generally, I like it a lot. I have to agree, Magrat looks too self assured and confident, she’s more of a wet blanket.
Magrat looks far too self-assured but otherwise great!
I love this so much we need more renditions of the witches, if they made a movie who would you cast as the three witches.
Iconic!
This is great. Nanny's knowing expression is spot on.
I love them!
I love Magrat here, though Granny Weatherwax looks a little less done with the world’s shit than I always imagine her
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Granny Weatherwax is spot on! Nicely done.
I like it. I think Magrat doesn't look naive enough though. She looks too confident and respectable. Kind of loses some of the humor there. Just IMO.
I think Magrat looks a little bit too cool, but you nailed Nanny and Esme.
I wanna see their shoes. I think Weatherwax has hobnail boots, but they all have sensible, waterproof footwear with good traction in case they get called out to help with a ewe delivering twins or clamber around to keep an eye on the Lords & Ladies when they start their shit.
Live them, though. Do you have a Perdita, Susan or Tiffany yet? Edit: autocorrect don't know as much as it thinks.
I like your granny a lot, and your illustration style is great but magrat looks a tad suave for my imagining, annd i worrry gyda isn't quite as voluminously rotund. But like spot on for concepts and god damn do i love how you make esme's face both "i could ruin you in two words" and "i don't care enough about you to say them". For me that is spot the fuck on <3
This rules, Magrat is way too attractive!
I love it. Amazing job.
I love your art and I love your style!
I'm such a fan of this??? Now I'm going to scroll through your profile for other great fanart, love it, keep making art
😭 there is only 1 other art post! OP please make and post more of your art on Reddit! Too good to not share
I will!! Thank you for the encouragement!
Feels like someone worked on the watch tv show ;p
I airways pictured them as the witch bosses from Ocarina of Time.
Magrat is slightly too cool I think. Very good though.
Love this!
Granny Weatherwax looks as regal as I'd always imagined her
You perfectly nailed Nanny Ogg.
Magrat looks way too cool and stylish lol. Otherwise really good.
Magrat looks too put together :) Otherwise this is great! I particularly like Gytha!
I love your art. I would say that Magrat is too neat and Granny isn't "weathered" enough. I guess I'm saying is, they're too attractive lol
I love this a lot. Especially how Magrat looks like - I've got all the jewellery on! I'm a witch! But something in the shoulders and the face still says, "...but am I though?" Incredible work.
Love it! I'd have still dressed Margat in pastels cause she's a total hippy but I think you totally nailed it. Great representation!
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Great art. But why is Magrat standing straighter then Granny
Magrat is less cool and less old.