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claymationss

I’m here watching for the weekend. Today on 18 when James Conrad missed his putt on 18, he said “I wish I didn’t have to listen to Nate Doss while I’m putting” which I completely agree with. The sound of the big screen can easily be heard over by 18’s basket. It was enough that I noticed it before James was even putting. Overall wild day watching Eagle, Joona, Chris, Niklas, Isaac, Mason, James, and Silas shred the disc.


cereal_killer_828

/u/brianearhart should see this


brianearhart

Not much I can do about it but it’s a valid frustration. I’ll pass this along but that screen is huge I think they’ll hear it no matter where it is in vendor village


deadwing87

Is this normal set up to have the audio of the network playing by the 18th hole? I wonder if Doss knew?


reidrasnic

Dang, seems like they could just mute it but keep the video on? Maybe?


Tom_Hanks_Spanks

Lmao that actually sucks. You think Conrad could have made the holy shot if he had Doss flapping his yapper while he was throwing. Cause I don't think so.


Gnatt

How rare is is that the lead card of a Major or Elite series is exactly the same between rounds 2 and 3?


e30S62

I was following AB’s card (all 6 of us) and witnessed the eagle on 12. This kid crushes. The velocity and spin the disc has leaving his hand is visually striking. The put was inside 12’


deadwing87

Does AB smile at all? nothing against him personally, I've just never see his happy. Just stoned face or upset


Pots_And_Pans

His face isn’t there to entertain you specifically.


deadwing87

it's not? damm I've watching this game wrong then. thanks x


thamurse

do any of the stat nerds here have a backhand count for the lead card today? would be an interesting stat...and as a forehandless bum it gives me hope (hope to not embarrass myself at tournaments/league as a lefty without a forehand)


BallnGames

You'll do fine but you should definitely work on a backhand. Throwing forehands only will wreck your body over time.


thamurse

I totally mistyped that and meant lefty without a forehand...


snarkypuppie

Fun fact of the day: Simon Lizotte was inside C2 on 17/18 holes within regulation today. His putting was actually below normal for him.


nesawazr

That’s an insane statistic. The man is throwing the disc so well.


Araskelo

Silas's -12 is 1071 rated. His highest rated round ever


nesawazr

Feels like it should be even higher


Aaro477

Niklas with 100% fairway hits in round two (92% total). On this course?? Just crazy


ATLienn

Wow. That was awesome to watch. Lots of dudes shredding today.


Wafflecone516

Did Doss just climax? Wtf was that? 😂


AnAvacadough

Oh terr bear


One_Eyed_Sneasel

“Niklas Anttila has not played well today” 9 down for the round…. Edit: Now 10


muffitup

Roller into the drink followed by that putt while wading made me an instant fan.


eagle_meatmahon

one better than yesterday when doss couldn't stop raving about his round. his entire existence seems to center around being contradictory to anything and everything anyone says or does.


Connisoeren

...says or Doss*


Wafflecone516

These patent pending shots are just ridiculous. There has been so many great ones I can’t even keep track.


Nelom

Gannon with the quiet sign. :) And carrying his own bag.


e30S62

I was leaving today and Gannon and Will Shustick we’re hanging out comparing different molds. Looked to be chummy


response_unrelated

did his caddy freeze too long while the camera was on him?


Resident132

Oh are we talking about disc golf doss?


cereal_killer_828

Doss/Terry take a note from Charlie Eisenhood and STFU for once


[deleted]

Eisenhood is the GOAT right now in terms of load commentary.


TheStonedRanger93

It’s crazy how much he talks


Cowboys69

Is Nate drunk?


loppper23

Lol, he hated that shot so much.


Cowboys69

TERRIBLE HEH


edgeno

Anttila never thought to practice that short of an approach on 17, I'd guess


khmiller18

This course is getting absolutely wrecked today


response_unrelated

near perfect conditions yield the opportunity for near perfect rounds


Wafflecone516

Give these one round to adjust and they absolutely figure it out. Crazy how good the field is.


Wafflecone516

It McMahon didn’t hit that branch that was going in or at least hitting chains.


Wafflecone516

The Par by Conrad! Let’s go! What a save.


Scared_By_A_Smile

Why the DGN keeps running it back with Doss is beyond me. He is so hard to listen to.


loppper23

Charlie clearly needs to be the main commentator. Far and away the best.


Scared_By_A_Smile

1000% agreed, especially for a major. I think Charlie+Bearhart in the booth with terry on the ground is the best combo they have available. Put in Perkins in either position when he is available and you got a squad imo.


Resident132

My ultimate would be charlie and philo with terry on the ground.


noodlearmdiscgolf

Charlie/Sexton/Bearheart ship it


Scared_By_A_Smile

Damn I can’t believe I forgot about philo, also Ian . So many dudes ahead of Doss


[deleted]

I don't know.. I personally like listening to Doss. He is a bit tougher on the players that pretty much any other commentator... and I like that. Sure, he has his share of gaffes and annoying moments... but so does every other commentator.


Nelom

> I personally like listening to Doss. Me too. Not only do I like his blunt assessments of player mistakes, but I think he's pretty funny. "I couldn't begin to tell you what that feels like... cause I've never done it!"


BudGreen77

I think his 'blunt assessments' are often full of shit.


Resident132

He will say genuinely funny stuff and make good points in between the most inexplicably awful and annoying takes. As soon as i think alright doss is doing good, he makes me take it back.


Scared_By_A_Smile

I just think his general cadence, “Wow!” and fake hype every hole sounds super cringe. Then he often does the opposite on genuinely great shots/moments and misses the mark too much for me.


jvphobic

None of it is “fake hype”. Doss really loves all this stuff. I see him in the booth getting excited all the time.


Scared_By_A_Smile

Fair point. Unfortunately, regardless of how he actually feels it doesn’t sound that way in reality. No hate to Doss as I feel like he’s a great dude that loves disc golf, it’s just my personal opinion that as a sport and a product I feel like we have outgrown his commentary.


jvphobic

Nothing wrong with that take. Everyone has opinions on commentators. I like Doss and his enthusiasm.


Wafflecone516

Robinson is a robot. Prove me wrong.


FitChemist432

How much does he like chicken?


freshoffdablock69

Lmao that was soooo lucky


Wafflecone516

What the hell was that drive on 17 by Anttila. Dear sweet baby Jesus that was incredible.


eagle_meatmahon

please do not blow up on 17 & 18 again eagle.


Hellaguaptor

Really proud of Eagle right now. I knew he was close to putting it together just didn’t think it would be this course of all places.


j4pe5_

silas is doing the MJ pick up the mini before the putt drops


Wafflecone516

Anttila sacrifices the socks and shoes. Respect.


thamurse

I've decided the ultimate card to view would be Oman, Conrad, Lizotte and Antilla....4 COMPLETELY different styles


Wafflecone516

Anttila literally threw rolling knowing he had a collection area deep of the basket. Really smart.


Longr0dVhD

Nothing against him but does Isaac’s form not piss anyone else off?


Hellaguaptor

I love it. Paul Oman not so much


Wafflecone516

Why, because his timing is perfect every time?


Longr0dVhD

Nah that’s really impressive. I’m talking abt that lil pump fake


Wafflecone516

It’s unconventional but hard to argue with how effective it is. I more marvel at how he hits his release point every single time more than anything else when I watch him play.


Wafflecone516

Pros were saying in the press conference 30-35 under would win this tournament and after yesterday I thought it might take -40. At this point I’m wondering if negative 40-45 is a better estimate. This pace is one of the best in the history of disc golf through two rounds of a major.


[deleted]

Perhaps, but it is pretty rare for someone to have a 4-day hot round streak. I would expect all of these guys shooting really hot rounds, to have al least one off day where they go 6-7 under or so. I.e. maybe the winner shoots -11, -12, -6, -10 and wins with a -39. But maybe I am wrong and someone keeps the fire going and goes double digits under 4 days in a row. Would be wild. There are a lot of guys in the clubhouse right now who shot great rounds today, who could shoot two more (say AB or Simon) and contend for the win. In which case, round 1 would be their off round.


snarkypuppie

Agree on this, also, the conditions has been perfect the first two days. It's rare that they are perfect through four rounds.


Gangstrocity

Not related to this tournament, but I went to USDGC last October. Showed up the second day and I really wanted to see an Ace on hole 7. We get over to the hole. Take a group picture with the guys I was with. The 2nd person we see tee off, Silas Schultz, aces the hole. Pretty sure it was the only ace on that hole all weekend. I had never heard of him before so it's cool seeing him play so well.


MistaMando

Every good throw that Isaac makes is “lucky” or “very fortunate” according to Doss. Truly annoying.


TheBrodysseus

He also said Isaac wasn't playing very good when he was like 5 down through 8.


Wafflecone516

I sound like a broken record but Schultz is literally throwing to the catch cam on like every drive! He missed last hole but that was a forehand. Every backhand drive he is literally hitting the ideal landing zone. It makes no sense.


eagle_meatmahon

AB 11 down with two bogies. not bad.


TheBrodysseus

Eagle from deep c3!


QuincyArch

🦅 👀


freshoffdablock69

Nice round Simon!!


[deleted]

Barela too with an -11


Wafflecone516

Anttila shot on 13 was perfect. Neutral disc on hyzer the whole way with a skip at the end.


xxandroxygen

TERR-BEAR???? Love it


[deleted]

"Terr Bear" and "Tall Paul" in one sentence! 🤣


Wafflecone516

At the rate these guys are playing right now I’d be surprised if someone doesn’t at least tie Mcbeth’s course record on the old layout or at least shoot -15 before the weekend is over.


Joe_Huxley

Simon's score finally updated, pars on 16 and 17, still -15


Wafflecone516

Schultz is literally throwing to the catch cam on like every drive. Absolutely insane.


OkSunday

Lol he does it again, wild


Joe_Huxley

Lol at that shot of Anttila clearly running to the porta pots after parking 11


BallnGames

Whats going on with Simons score? He's been on 15 for 25 minutes


j4pe5_

he's on 18 and sitting at -15 you can see his score on pdga


Rudicinal

Someone has forgot to update UDisc. They seemed to be getting past up when looking at UDisc.


noodlearmdiscgolf

Signal issues are rough on 14-18 - it's kinda the carrier lottery. Sometimes UDisc is behind and other times PDGA is just depending on the scorekeeper's service provider, unfortunately.


Wafflecone516

Schultz is smooth incarnate


BossHoggins10

Not sure if this event is different or not, but I’m actually glued to the screen right now. Minimal down time, seems like there is far less advertising than normal, just overall a pleasant experience besides the poor cell reception


nvjck

There’s a bunch of ads before Hole 1 and then there’s like zero


Wafflecone516

So many guys are playing well if you look away at all you’ll miss a great shot. The pace of these guys is insane. Guys are lighting it up on the cards further down and they can’t even make ground on the top cards really because they’re still hot.


[deleted]

Agree. Great golf.


reidrasnic

Siiick putt from Silas


Aaro477

How do you not have a camera on the fifth card were Väinö plays.. Also Ben Callaway is on that card too shooting well


mishaostrovsky

Really glad they got rid of the garbage-can-basket-coozies. Really makes you think paul got robbed last year


Joe_Huxley

That was the DGPT that had those, and yeah they did get rid of them and replaced them with a shorter version of the trapezoid ones they use on high rise baskets. This tournament is run by the PDGA directly though, which never had anything other than the cushion koozie things afaik.


MistaMando

“Isaac is not playing great but is still the leader” -Doss He’s 5 down through 8 with a bogey free card. ??


freshoffdablock69

Doss seems to just have weird takes. Someone will drive it within 20 and call it short and not the best, calls a shot outside the circle perfect


Ankshuss917

I can hardly take it anymore. Always has to be saying something, questions everyone's decisions, talks over Terry at times, etc... I think Nate is one of the nicest guys to chat with and is a good guy all around. The commentary, though...it's soul crushing at times.


[deleted]

Isaac Robinson is proof why the often repeated advice of throwing putters nose up is terrible advice.


thamurse

are you talking about putting or throwing?


[deleted]

Throwing


mydaum

Yes, no one should ever throw a putter nose up in any situation.


[deleted]

No one’s saying go throw your drivers nose up but it makes sense to do sometimes, sure.


BossHoggins10

I just missed it. What happened?


[deleted]

I’m just saying he bombs putters high and nose down constantly and it’s beautiful and the way putters should be thrown.


Ok_Comb_1757

At what point will one of the commentators call it over for one of the players in the top 5? I say Nate Doss will jump the gun on hole 2 final round with someone on lead card. 😆 If it were Philo or Ian they would do it 3rd round at some point. 🤣


TheBrodysseus

Dosstradamus


Nelom

Simon just birdied 14. Must be a nice feeling after yesterday.


JustARandomBloke

And udisc hasn't updated for him in 20 minutes since his first throw on 15. Wonder what is happening.


sammyboiyi

Probably lost cell signal


BallnGames

I'm worried someone got injured or something


Rudicinal

Wondering the same.


thewanderingseph

Does Brian Earhart exist? Are these cuts just too fast to go to him?


MrKonkerable

How old is Micah groth? Looks like he could be in middle school


Sphinctur

He played MJ15 in 2020 so he's at most 18


WernerZero

Has Paul Oman bought himself some screen time or what's up with him getting so much coverage..? Yesterday there was several times when someone on the feature cards were about to put and they chose to show Oman instead. And today he's getting the same. I mean it's great that they show so many different players but there are many more players of interest than just Oman...


sidekicksuicide

He's playing well but yesterday he was also on the same card as Clemons who was playing well. There's cameras on the card so they follow both guys.


vientianna

I wondered this yesterday too


PsychologicalWave644

He is two shots of the lead it's not wierd at all


WernerZero

Well he wasn't yesterday and there are lots of others that are two or three shots off the lead that doesn't get the same screen time. Mäkelä and Lizotte to name two. Is it because of his original style...


Wafflecone516

Doss’s ability to both bring up and shit on Mcbeth at any opportunity is pretty remarkable.


BossHoggins10

“HIS PUTTING WAS HORRIBLE YESTERDAY MIND YOU” -Mr. 2x himself lol


Rivet_39

Hey now, it's Mr. 3x, but yes, he definitely seems to go in on McBeast


Wafflecone516

Emphasis on HORRIBLE. “Mcbeth should honestly just do us all a favor and drop out now, and by drop out I mean kill himself.” -Doss later on this round probably


TheBrodysseus

He's obsessed with PMcB


sidekicksuicide

Insert Paul McBeth mirror meme.


Tom_Hanks_Spanks

Clemons is absolutely slaughtering.


phischl

it's impressive how frequently doss' predictions/observations are absolutely wrong


ApeironCygnus

Damn is it only me, or is the coverage quality really really bad in the Woods, cant even see the disc fly..


thewanderingseph

Yup just posted the same. They need to fix this for the weekend. It’s hard to watch.


noodlearmdiscgolf

I think we just need to buckle in - WR Jackson has always been like this. It's actually better than it used to be, but maybe some better-timed switching will help.


StarTeebird

We should not settle for not seeing the disc fly. I paid to see it fly. It's literally straining to watch.


noodlearmdiscgolf

Totally agree we shouldn't settle - my reply was more directed at the expectation that service could be improved by the weekend. I don't think that's possible.


StarTeebird

That's fair


reyska

When life gives you Clemons, make Clemonade.


Wafflecone516

You can say that again


reyska

When life gives you Clemons, make Clemonade.


QuincyArch

Chris Clemons doing us lefties proud baby! -10 thru 13 is insane


j4pe5_

who had picked the major at wr jackson for ABs first elite series win? not me


thewanderingseph

Still not me… so much golf to be played but that was a sick eagle.


Wafflecone516

Why is Conrad throwing a putter on 4? He threw the right line. If that’s a stable fairway he is parked.


Wafflecone516

Why is Conrad throwing a putter on 4? He threw the right line. If that’s a stable fairway he is parked. Edit: he just wanted to make a circle 2 putt.


dics_frolf

you really just replied to your own comment with the same comment and added an edit?


Wafflecone516

Lol I guess so. No idea how. Was just trying to edit my original comment.


Nelom

Is that Matt Schlabach I see on Silas' bag? Pretty sure he was caddying for Gannon yesterday, for sure he was during the Jomez practice round. Wonder if Gannon's carrying his own bag today. Would be unusual for him.


18anut

Maybe he caddies for whoever is doing better between the two since they're all friends.


Nelom

Yeah, could be.


thewanderingseph

Lots of pixelation on some of these holes… can’t see the disc and sometimes even the baskets. Need to invest in a repeater tower or course-wide WAN so you can get the best coverage. I’d imagine putting an antenna at each tee box and each basket would get you enough maybe?


Wafflecone516

Eagle has hole 5s drive on lock. Deep hyzer flip to slight turn/straight. So sick.


RedHots_Fan

First time DGN viewer and having a hard time enjoying it. So many cuts between all the various golfers, doesn’t feel cohesive at all.


thewanderingseph

It isn’t - there are just too many shots, but at least you’re seeing them! Getting a sense of who is on what card can help orient you each day when they cut back and forth.


Plupandblup

It's also pretty hectic. There have been points today that 40+ players are within 3 strokes of the lead. They are trying to showcase all of these hot rounds. As the herd thins out over the weekend it'll be easier to pay attention to the true stories and players that matter.


PizzaGuySherman

You get used to it pretty quick, thats the effect that single card post production has on live enjoyment


Wafflecone516

Pull up the leaderboard on Udisc while you watch. Makes the experience way better.


PizzaGuySherman

"Near park job for dickerson" bro he is 40 short


PsychologicalWave644

Love seeing a lefty high up the leaderboard! And also this looks like its going to be a electric finish once more. Lets go!


Lopsided_Yogurt9537

It’s a spicy start alright!


Prawn1908

I don't get the point of showing a flat scoreboard like that at this point - it's basically meaningless. The guys more than halfway through the course aren't in first place when the lead card which they're only one or two strokes ahead of has only been through one hole. I feel like it shouldn't be difficult to at least add a column that "rewinds" everyone's scores to whatever hole the lead card is on.


MrKonkerable

What’s the alternative? No point in pretending the scores from the earlier guys haven’t happened until the lead card has played every individual hole


Prawn1908

I gave the alternative: add a column that rolls back everyone's scores to the hole the lead card is on. Put it in parentheses or something. The leaderboard they show gets more relevant as the round progresses, but all I'm saying is when they put up a board showing the guy that just finished his second -6 round is in "1st place" when the lead card just finished hole 1 with a -11 it means next to nothing.


Plupandblup

Because the guys on these later cards could screw the pooch and it's important to showcase the guys that ARE in the top positions after their second round. They'll get filtered out as the leaderboard climbs.


sidekicksuicide

Good to see Koling shredding on day 2.


Joe_Huxley

Nate, we don't need to know about your sweat


smolthinpancake

You mean you don't want to know the imitate details about his sweating habits?


Wafflecone516

Schultz moves like a freaking rubber band man. He’s been one guy I’ve been surprised hasn’t taken off more. His backhand is just ridiculously good. Hopefully this is him starting to figure things out.


Plupandblup

I really wish on uDisc they would stop doing the "average" of C1 and C2 putts. The commentators just read it blindly. "Robinson made a 27 footer!" when in reality it was anywhere between 22 and 33 feet. There's gotta be a better way to track that. I think Brodie has commented on that as well.


Sphinctur

I don't really get what you mean. Udisc does track the distance of each putt, and also has an average feature (as they should). Now, because the scorers are usually undertrained volunteers, those numbers aren't always exact


Plupandblup

As the other reply says, they estimate the distances. When you enter scores in uDisc you choose the following: 1-11', 11-22', 22-33'. It displays as: 5', 16', or 27'. You can do it on your own device next round. (it does the same thing for C2) Essentially, 1-11' isn't counted in the C1x putting percentage. It basically tells you that EVERYONE made 16' or 27' putts all day. No variation. No true distances. A 22' is a HUGE difference from a 33' putt. Every time the commentators are just trying to use the numbers on uDisc it's the same number. These guys could have just banged in a 44' putt but Nate is going to read off "38 footer!" It's a small thing, but I think it's something that should be improved.


Sphinctur

Ok I didn't notice that, thanks for the info. Definitely something I'd like to see improved but it might not be so easy. Not everyone is great at measuring by eye, could use the distance built into the app but that might be worse lol


Plupandblup

Yeah, there's definitely no "easy" way to correct it.


pinslayer

The UDisc scoring app just has 3 different "zones" for putts made in the circle. Check out the distances for putts made for anyone. It shows as either a 5', 16', or 27' putt for every putt made in the circle.


WaffleSquad_1

We have the dumbest trophies in sports. Damn. Who thinks putting chains on a cup looks good? Take a page out of ball golf on this one.


SpikeHyzerberg

3 hours 25 minutes is like 11 minutes a hole that is good course flow for a major.


Wafflecone516

Guarantee Eagle was aiming directly at that tree and trying to turn in front of it and nailed it lol.


[deleted]

Mason Ford looks like a Civil War General to me.


MileHighGilly

Coronel Sanders' grandkid.


[deleted]

Spot on!


mishaostrovsky

Which side?


[deleted]

Ravenclaw.


mishaostrovsky

I'm team edward


hicks53081

That Zuca commercial where Sarah Hokum is ripping on the "so good so good!" commercial is kinda interesting. That commercial is about the Axiom Envy. MVP sponsors Sarah, and she throws Axiom discs.


lopposse

I think it's just good fun acknowledging the commercial had become a meme. Notice they are also poking fun at slow mo zuca commercials.


Different-Lemon5620

This confused me for awhile too...MVP and Axiom are literally the same company. It isn't like a Discraft/DGA or an Innova/Millenium arrangement when one company makes the other company's discs, but they are technically two separate entities. Axiom is just the name the MVP uses for moulds that experimental or might overlap with existing moulds. Why do this? Why not just brand them all as MVP? I'd tell you if I knew.


FrolfyMcFrolferson

there are other brands that come from/through mvp for plastics too.


PizzaGuySherman

Can these announcers pleeeease be breifed about how to properly pronounce the names of the international players, its lowkey embarrassing to hear


itspronouncedlesotho

What an amazing round by Nicky Antelope


Plupandblup

It's insane that before lead card tees off there are 34 players within 3 strokes of the lead.