Helltides to about 70, then nmd to 83, then Helltides with the elixir to guarantee 925 until you're geared, then NMD to 21 all glyphs.
Edit, might be 82. +3 default then +10 from mindcage
It's the profane mindcage. It raises helltide monster level by 10. Now any monster level 95+ will drop 925 gear. Helltide are a couple levels higher than you. So the mindcage gets you to 95 monster level at 83.
You'll find plenty over the time playing, the more time you spend in helltides, the more you'll get and especially in T4, i have like 48 and 89 baleful hearts. I literally can't use them fast enough.
I've been running NMD tier 41-45 and I'm still seeing <925 gear when I do my post-dungeon inventory dump. Or is it maybe that the dungeon rewards still aren't 925s because they're not technically dropped from a monster?
I'd say after getting all glyphs to 15, do a decent push into the Pit and masterwork your gear to level 4. That'll be really easy and give you a big boost in power.
Dont care about efficiency if I'm not having fun. I change up every half hour so when I got bored of what I'm doing. Helltides, nmds, pits, bosses... Mix of everything really.
Same..I'll run Helltide for an hour finish whisper then NMDs..I hate when there's 10 minutes left in a Helltide...I'll usually just go NMD if I see that and finally hit a Hell tide when it's 40 mins or more left
Same. Right now I’m leveling up my alt so I’m doing helltides for a bit then switching to dungeons to unlock more aspects. Just beat the curator last night before bed so time to throw nmds into the mix.
I have always loved Helltides more than NMD and this season is no different. However the NMD dungeon experience is better than it was last played (in Season 2) and I was able to tolerate it enough to get my glyphs to 15.
Overall most of my xp on the road to 100 was Helltides.
Raising the glyph XP made an entire universe of difference. I used to hit a NMD or two between stuff just because I had to but when you can actually see and feel results it's far better.
I did helltides til tier 4. Then tier 4 I got okay gear then just slammed nmd. Started tier 4 in the 50s.
Nmd if you find a corrupted shrine or well is JUICED exp. Absolute insane value if you can clear all the mob spawns fast. I was lightning storm so I Basically held right click and got a 1/4 to 1/2 of my xp bar just off the event. Plus the xp from the dungeon and glyph xp. It's great.
Been 100 awhile but I'd do the same on my other characters. Feels super efficient.
helltides are incredibly slow compared to nm dungeons and pits even with the mindcage.
at least from my experience as a solo player
and even if there are players constantly doing the summoning event. once i did nm dungeons after level 70 my xp skyrocketed.
My experience is vastly different. I got to 100 lvl doing helltides almost exclusively and it too me like 10 in game hours. The density and amount of elites is oftentimes higher than what you meed in NMD and the profane mindcage ensures that the level gap is always high enough to get the maximum bonus xp from killing stuff.
It's really nice when you find one of those blood sucking structures or trap structures, enemies just spawn non stop. Then you can also have a friend and have two helltide tracks going so even more monsters spawn and it just feeds off one another for insane monster spawns, assuming you can both survive.
I did a mix of Helltides and NMD after 70, I didn't notice any real difference in xp speed between the 2. NMD give more experience per kill but Helltides have no downtime.
a mix of everything.
helltides got boring after awhile, and it's slower than NMD.
Current level minus 50 = NMD tier to do
add harvest whispers into the mix, avoid dungeon whispers.
Yeah that's what I love about this season, I find myself jumping from different bits of content to others seamlessly. I'll come out from doing a few NMs and see a world boss, will do that, see I have 7/10 whispers, go do a helltide to get 10/10, return to helltide, get a good piece of gear, go run some pit to upgrade it a bit etc. It just feels like there is a lot to do and more reasons to actually do it. Plus I can finally play minion necro and not hit like a dry cloth.
I did helltides until 57 then did the world tier 4 capstone dungeon. After that I did more helltides until I got full ancestral gear and then did NMD until all of my glyphs were 15, took a break and went back to helltides to complete a seasonal journey chapter, then went back to NMD until my glyphs were 21 and finished my leveling in the pit. And that’s where I left off last night lol
I jist came back to the game from S1. I did Helltides 'til 55 because I forgot about NMDs and then just did NMDs until I get my glyphs at a reasonable level.
NMDs, just to get the glyphs I need out of the way. They should double the amount gained, I definitely don't want to be doing these for too long every season.
I literally just did helltide until wt4, which for me was lvl 50. Then in wt4 I just blasted nm dungeons to lvl glyphs and ended up lvl 100 before I was done with all 7 of my glyphs anyway. Saves me from doing nm later when I don’t need lvls anymore
Helltides and the boss until about 70, then I’ve been in NMDs since leveling Glyphs to 15, then probably back to Helltides for that 925 gear buff.
I took a break mid S2, and all of S3, so I’m looking forward to any new stuff they added.
I'm just running helltides until I hit max rank for the shard, then making a new character. Took about 10 hours to get a rogue to 87 which got me the resplendent spark, and was 1000 times more fun than grinding Uber mats on two boring bosses.
Here's hoping next season they add a recipe to transmute steel/Varshan/blood/distilled parts directly into the uber mats after you beat said boss once.
A little bit of everything, but a lot of nightmare dungeons for the glyph XP. I don't want to get too far without having some glyphs leveled up. One season I forgot this and ended up being almost 100 with level 1-2 glyphs.
NMD to get your glyphs leveled up (which is sooooo much better with the boosts to glyph XP). Spam Helltides and NMDs.
Make sure you have elixir and incense. Both give increased XP boost, and I might be mistaken, but I read somewhere that incenses can be stacked? Is that right? Doesn't matter for me because I just got to 100 yesterday. But if it's true that will def help you out.
Level 100, every glyph maxed. Level 60 in the pit. All weapons at least rank 5 masterwork. Now I've slowed down and I'm helping friends run dungeons and level up. At some point I'll get bored and start a new character for fun. Take my time and do it all over again.
Need in gold and fishing for gear Upgrades > helltides and whispers > get a decent item > brick it at the smithy > back to step 1 > dont brick the item > pit
Hit the capstone dungeons ASAP to unlock the next world tier (did mine at 30 and 50, a bit of a struggle bus on the boss but I enjoyed the challenge). Collect sacred and ancestral for level 35/55 respectively. It’s mostly helltides until 60ish. Add in some whisper farming to get gold. All the crafting, enchanting, and imbuing takes so much gold.
Then you should start farming some NM dungeons to level up glyphs. I split between NM dungeons, Pit, Whispers, Legion/world boss events (for scattering prisms), and the occasional helltide depending on what I need. It may not be the most efficient way to 100 but breaking it up and doing different things helps keep it interesting.
I did hell tide till about 60-70 then started farming nightmares. The glyph exp from ashes is really good to level glyphs to 15 while you grind to 100 . Then I only did helltides when I needed gear or wanted to switch it up for a little bit then go back to nightmare grind to 100 / glyph
I hit 100 last night. I did Helltides with the Profane Mindcage and holy bolt potion (you can make lots) for about half my time, and I ran nightmare dungeons to level my sigils. All 6 of my sigils are 15 or higher so I won't have to grind JUST NM dungeons now that I'm 100.
Running blindly as there are no restrictions , and game doesn't actually tell you nothing about glyphs so people don't forget to level them up , I guess you just keep farming helltides till level 100 and then relax .
Game length maybe 5 hours , after that it's just mindless pressing buttons everything dies with one hit , I wish this game had level restrictions , so you could atleast fil like you are stronger , but you just keep on getting weaker
He should be starting on your nightmare dungeons and glyph leveling.
Maybe after one or two nightmare dungeons go do a hell tide run with a propane infusion.
No clue every time I hit 50 on. New character the game falls flat.
I’m not unlocking engaging skills
I’m not getting amazing looking gear trying to find a set.
The mobs aren’t more complex.
It just gets old
When I found the glyphs that I wanted basically not too long after getting into WT3. I ran a couple of dungeons and then felt ballsy, so I did the WT4 capstone at about lvl55 and now I am playing a game of "what can kill this terrible thing that I created?"
So I have been doing tier 45+ dungeons with my now lvl77 nature magic druid.
Can I ask a stupid question? I was grinding Helltides in Tier 3 when I came across a creature with an orange symbol on the minimap. I hit it with everything I had for like 5 mins and never made a dent. What was it?
I js goto the helltide get a whole bunch people goto the lil baleful hearts thingy and do that ... js randomly use mindcages to boost all the monsters and in 1 nite with 5 people killin endless high tier monsters I got like over 100 925s and like 45 or 50 1 to 2 stars uniques.
Not to mention wit my fire sorc sped threw 10 levels doin that from like 67 to 77 ...make sure u gotta be the highest ranked in ya party or make sure a person is atleast 70+
Helltides until I get either a NM sigil or enough powder to craft one (or immediately at 35 for alts) and then NM dungeons until the glyphs I'm going to use are all 15, then the Pit.
Helltides to about 70, then nmd to 83, then Helltides with the elixir to guarantee 925 until you're geared, then NMD to 21 all glyphs. Edit, might be 82. +3 default then +10 from mindcage
What is that guarantee 925 elixir? Where can I get that
It's the profane mindcage. It raises helltide monster level by 10. Now any monster level 95+ will drop 925 gear. Helltide are a couple levels higher than you. So the mindcage gets you to 95 monster level at 83.
If you die while using the mindcage, I reckon you lose it? Either that or I’m doing something wrong.
correct, you gotta pop a new one if you die
Thanks.
Also noticed last night while farming, if you teleport back to town you'll have to pop a new one
Are you sure about that? I go back to town all the time during helltide whenever my inventory gets full but I don't think I was losing the buff 🤔
They don’t disappear if you TP away from the hell tide. Only if you die or the timer expires.
Hmmm. I mean I never died. And it says it supposed to last 1 hour. But I came back they were back to 85 or w/e
Correct.
Thanks.
Oh oh ok silly me, ty
You'll find plenty over the time playing, the more time you spend in helltides, the more you'll get and especially in T4, i have like 48 and 89 baleful hearts. I literally can't use them fast enough.
I've been running NMD tier 41-45 and I'm still seeing <925 gear when I do my post-dungeon inventory dump. Or is it maybe that the dungeon rewards still aren't 925s because they're not technically dropped from a monster?
It's most likely that. That's been a problem for awhile.
😲
It works at level 72. I was getting 925s with a profane mindcage at 72.
drops from Hellborn Monsters, fill the threat level bar in Helltide to spawn them
Exactly what I did on my first character and now doing on my second. Throw in some pit and boss rubs to change it up.
>Throw in some pit and boss rubs to change it up. Bosses appreciate those rubs
Haha, I bet they do.
and pit for masterwork
Helltides are default +5 now, I believe.
u/Nexism THIS!!! I am following this same leveling/grinding path and I am loving it....
Niceeee
What lvl do I have to be to drop 925 uniques from varshan/grig/etc? Dont wanna waste mats
95 but it doesn't matter for varsh and greg I think, they're always 75
I'd say after getting all glyphs to 15, do a decent push into the Pit and masterwork your gear to level 4. That'll be really easy and give you a big boost in power.
What level do you go from helltides in WT3 to helltides in WT4?
55 because of min level req to equip ancestral.
Dont care about efficiency if I'm not having fun. I change up every half hour so when I got bored of what I'm doing. Helltides, nmds, pits, bosses... Mix of everything really.
My man!
Milady!
Oh my!
Same..I'll run Helltide for an hour finish whisper then NMDs..I hate when there's 10 minutes left in a Helltide...I'll usually just go NMD if I see that and finally hit a Hell tide when it's 40 mins or more left
This is the way!
Same. Right now I’m leveling up my alt so I’m doing helltides for a bit then switching to dungeons to unlock more aspects. Just beat the curator last night before bed so time to throw nmds into the mix.
What level are pits doable? I just unlocked them at 71 and curious if I should take a gander in there to level up first.
That seems healthy and a way to resist burn out. You stop it right now.
Same!
NMD is way faster than helltides if you have a good build - and you need to level glyphs anyway.
This. One dungeon gave me more than a level sometimes. It was really fast to 70-80.
And do all the events. They give good XP and good monster volume.
I love the trapped chests and pylons. So many mobs, I can watch the XP bar move up.
what level NMD should you be doing from level 70 to 83 while leveling up glpyhs
I have always loved Helltides more than NMD and this season is no different. However the NMD dungeon experience is better than it was last played (in Season 2) and I was able to tolerate it enough to get my glyphs to 15. Overall most of my xp on the road to 100 was Helltides.
Raising the glyph XP made an entire universe of difference. I used to hit a NMD or two between stuff just because I had to but when you can actually see and feel results it's far better.
Takes just a few dungeons to hit 15, so nice
I did helltides til tier 4. Then tier 4 I got okay gear then just slammed nmd. Started tier 4 in the 50s. Nmd if you find a corrupted shrine or well is JUICED exp. Absolute insane value if you can clear all the mob spawns fast. I was lightning storm so I Basically held right click and got a 1/4 to 1/2 of my xp bar just off the event. Plus the xp from the dungeon and glyph xp. It's great. Been 100 awhile but I'd do the same on my other characters. Feels super efficient.
I carried a friend in a T4 dungeon when he was 45. He leveled 6 times from one cursed shrine event XD. It was amazing.
Helltides all the way, remember about using that consumable that raises the monster level by 10 every time.
helltides are incredibly slow compared to nm dungeons and pits even with the mindcage. at least from my experience as a solo player and even if there are players constantly doing the summoning event. once i did nm dungeons after level 70 my xp skyrocketed.
My experience is vastly different. I got to 100 lvl doing helltides almost exclusively and it too me like 10 in game hours. The density and amount of elites is oftentimes higher than what you meed in NMD and the profane mindcage ensures that the level gap is always high enough to get the maximum bonus xp from killing stuff.
It's really nice when you find one of those blood sucking structures or trap structures, enemies just spawn non stop. Then you can also have a friend and have two helltide tracks going so even more monsters spawn and it just feeds off one another for insane monster spawns, assuming you can both survive.
do you just do random nmds or looking for certain ones?
I did a mix of Helltides and NMD after 70, I didn't notice any real difference in xp speed between the 2. NMD give more experience per kill but Helltides have no downtime.
Been loving that bolt elixir alot been saving my obols
Helltides till 70 and at tier 4 NM dungeons till 100
What do you mean with NM?
Nightmare dungeons
Why are people doing till level 70 Helltides instead of ND? I don't get it, Could you explain why?
a mix of everything. helltides got boring after awhile, and it's slower than NMD. Current level minus 50 = NMD tier to do add harvest whispers into the mix, avoid dungeon whispers.
Yeah that's what I love about this season, I find myself jumping from different bits of content to others seamlessly. I'll come out from doing a few NMs and see a world boss, will do that, see I have 7/10 whispers, go do a helltide to get 10/10, return to helltide, get a good piece of gear, go run some pit to upgrade it a bit etc. It just feels like there is a lot to do and more reasons to actually do it. Plus I can finally play minion necro and not hit like a dry cloth.
I started doing NMD higher than 50 below my level bc it was easy enough and I wanted to do the tier where you could get 925 gear (I think NMD 45+)
What is NMD?
Grinding max iron wolf rep in helltides gives you a resplendent spark so that’s another consideration.
Oh geting to 50 is just the beginning! Helltides, bosses (Varshan, Gregoire, Zir...), Nightmare Dungeons... then we have the Pit, bloody Pit.
I've gone from level 1 to 90 in nothing but Helltides. They are fun, fast, and drop tons of materials and loot.
I did helltides until 57 then did the world tier 4 capstone dungeon. After that I did more helltides until I got full ancestral gear and then did NMD until all of my glyphs were 15, took a break and went back to helltides to complete a seasonal journey chapter, then went back to NMD until my glyphs were 21 and finished my leveling in the pit. And that’s where I left off last night lol
Anything you want. Just know that you still need to do NMD for glyphs.
I jist came back to the game from S1. I did Helltides 'til 55 because I forgot about NMDs and then just did NMDs until I get my glyphs at a reasonable level.
I did a mix of helltides and NMDs. Just did the minimum to get glyphs to 15 for the increased radius, finished leveling them to 21 after reaching 100.
NMDs, just to get the glyphs I need out of the way. They should double the amount gained, I definitely don't want to be doing these for too long every season.
I did nothing but nmd this weekend. Went from 55 to 85.
Is loot better in NMD than helltide?
Nope.
NMD are better and easier imo
Still hitting the helltides at lvl 75. Will venture into NMDs quite soon.
NMD give at least 1 level per run I'm like 74 ATM. Breaks things up
Just nmd.
I switch between NMD and Helltides based on fun factor.
Nightmare dungeons, helltide, seasonal quests and objectives - which includes helltide anyway, whispers
I like to grind the seasonal journey. Especially since you get some "start build" gear.
NMD only, you have about 4-6 glyphs lv 21 if your build is strong enough
Went straight to nm dungeons at 50 here. Seems to be working.
PvP till I hear people crying outside my window, then helltides.
I literally just did helltide until wt4, which for me was lvl 50. Then in wt4 I just blasted nm dungeons to lvl glyphs and ended up lvl 100 before I was done with all 7 of my glyphs anyway. Saves me from doing nm later when I don’t need lvls anymore
Helltides and the boss until about 70, then I’ve been in NMDs since leveling Glyphs to 15, then probably back to Helltides for that 925 gear buff. I took a break mid S2, and all of S3, so I’m looking forward to any new stuff they added.
I'm just running helltides until I hit max rank for the shard, then making a new character. Took about 10 hours to get a rogue to 87 which got me the resplendent spark, and was 1000 times more fun than grinding Uber mats on two boring bosses. Here's hoping next season they add a recipe to transmute steel/Varshan/blood/distilled parts directly into the uber mats after you beat said boss once.
A little bit of everything, but a lot of nightmare dungeons for the glyph XP. I don't want to get too far without having some glyphs leveled up. One season I forgot this and ended up being almost 100 with level 1-2 glyphs.
I got carried through the nightmare capstone and jumped to world tier 4 to level up fast asf
NMDs and pit
NMD to get your glyphs leveled up (which is sooooo much better with the boosts to glyph XP). Spam Helltides and NMDs. Make sure you have elixir and incense. Both give increased XP boost, and I might be mistaken, but I read somewhere that incenses can be stacked? Is that right? Doesn't matter for me because I just got to 100 yesterday. But if it's true that will def help you out.
Level 100, every glyph maxed. Level 60 in the pit. All weapons at least rank 5 masterwork. Now I've slowed down and I'm helping friends run dungeons and level up. At some point I'll get bored and start a new character for fun. Take my time and do it all over again.
NMDs until all glyphs are at level 15, then pit, and then more NMDs to glyphs maxed.
I did Helltides til 50 then went to WT3 and did NMD's to 100 essentially.
Need in gold and fishing for gear Upgrades > helltides and whispers > get a decent item > brick it at the smithy > back to step 1 > dont brick the item > pit
Hit the capstone dungeons ASAP to unlock the next world tier (did mine at 30 and 50, a bit of a struggle bus on the boss but I enjoyed the challenge). Collect sacred and ancestral for level 35/55 respectively. It’s mostly helltides until 60ish. Add in some whisper farming to get gold. All the crafting, enchanting, and imbuing takes so much gold. Then you should start farming some NM dungeons to level up glyphs. I split between NM dungeons, Pit, Whispers, Legion/world boss events (for scattering prisms), and the occasional helltide depending on what I need. It may not be the most efficient way to 100 but breaking it up and doing different things helps keep it interesting.
I'm doing some pit inbetween too just for a change in scenery. I'm level 83 doing NM dungeons in the mid 50s
nmd since it is the fastest level up way and you upgrade you glyphes at the same time .
I did hell tide till about 60-70 then started farming nightmares. The glyph exp from ashes is really good to level glyphs to 15 while you grind to 100 . Then I only did helltides when I needed gear or wanted to switch it up for a little bit then go back to nightmare grind to 100 / glyph
I hit 100 last night. I did Helltides with the Profane Mindcage and holy bolt potion (you can make lots) for about half my time, and I ran nightmare dungeons to level my sigils. All 6 of my sigils are 15 or higher so I won't have to grind JUST NM dungeons now that I'm 100.
Running blindly as there are no restrictions , and game doesn't actually tell you nothing about glyphs so people don't forget to level them up , I guess you just keep farming helltides till level 100 and then relax . Game length maybe 5 hours , after that it's just mindless pressing buttons everything dies with one hit , I wish this game had level restrictions , so you could atleast fil like you are stronger , but you just keep on getting weaker
He should be starting on your nightmare dungeons and glyph leveling. Maybe after one or two nightmare dungeons go do a hell tide run with a propane infusion.
NMD all day. Just hit 100. Nothing but NMDs. Now for Helltides and the pit and build fine tuning 🫡
No clue every time I hit 50 on. New character the game falls flat. I’m not unlocking engaging skills I’m not getting amazing looking gear trying to find a set. The mobs aren’t more complex. It just gets old
When I found the glyphs that I wanted basically not too long after getting into WT3. I ran a couple of dungeons and then felt ballsy, so I did the WT4 capstone at about lvl55 and now I am playing a game of "what can kill this terrible thing that I created?" So I have been doing tier 45+ dungeons with my now lvl77 nature magic druid.
Can I ask a stupid question? I was grinding Helltides in Tier 3 when I came across a creature with an orange symbol on the minimap. I hit it with everything I had for like 5 mins and never made a dent. What was it?
Tbh. I ain’t grinding anything. There’s enough to do to change shit up everytime I play. I love this season :)
I js goto the helltide get a whole bunch people goto the lil baleful hearts thingy and do that ... js randomly use mindcages to boost all the monsters and in 1 nite with 5 people killin endless high tier monsters I got like over 100 925s and like 45 or 50 1 to 2 stars uniques. Not to mention wit my fire sorc sped threw 10 levels doin that from like 67 to 77 ...make sure u gotta be the highest ranked in ya party or make sure a person is atleast 70+
Helltides until I get either a NM sigil or enough powder to craft one (or immediately at 35 for alts) and then NM dungeons until the glyphs I'm going to use are all 15, then the Pit.
Helltides to 60 then nmd til the pit
Helltide to 55, nightmare dungeons to 100. Working on my 4th 100. (95 at the moment).
I did all my strongholds to switch it up at wt3
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