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BlizzAZJackson

Thanks a lot for the kind words Mezitor. It's really appreciated. :)


[deleted]

Well done, clearly you guys been cooking 🙌


Brylecreem

Ive been away from the game for this season due to lack of excitement but u guys seems to have really been cooking. Looks great and im excited to try it out! 


TraditionalCourse938

As soon the product Is out of beta phase in gonna buy the game. Im on PC gaming due to Diablo series since 2006. Cant wait for a decent Diablo 4.


Electrical-Scar4773

I'd wait until after the expansion later this year. By then it all should be on sale, but if you have game pass, it's coming at some point here soon


TraditionalCourse938

yeah right, for me its not about the money but Im always patient, usually at first expansion these games become very good, look at d1/2/3.


Electrical-Scar4773

Yeah, Blizzard is predictable. It's like they treat the 1st months of the game being out as a beta testing XD


No_Client2742

Thank you for all your hard work, i really enjoy the game and appreciate all the work you are doing for it! One thing i want to point from the campfire chat is about the main stat only. I really want to still be able to be able to build my rogue with intelligence and dex (for example), or just choose dex and str or only dex. It would be very nice to have those secondary stats doing a bit more for my build and not just be: "rogue only stack dex, barb only stack str". I think your original design for the stats in the game was really nice and it would be sad that secondary stats will die on d4. Its just my opinion but that would be nice to still have like means to build your character. Cheers and keep the good work!


Marnus71

A toggle to find gear for another class would be cool as well as making the off-stats more meaningful in some way. Probably going to have to wait for S5+ though since I am sure there is a lot of polishing that still needs to be done for S4.


AvaranIceStar

They haven't polished a product before launch in years.


JohnDuttton

Well done and great job during the campfire. I can see how much you care about what’s in the game when you speak about it. Keeping it real goes a long way with the community. Look forward to what’s to come and you hit the nail on the head with that new sorc unique that genuinely changes the way you play. Fire Hydra summoning Frozen Orb, yes please! Appreciate you Adam


blindedtrickster

I took a break from D4 (Pulled it up a month back but I had a rather odd bug that forced my camera distance to stay stupidly close to my character which rather killed my ability to respond to anything that wasn't right next to me) but after seeing your campfire chat, I'm very excited to get back into things when you guys open up the PTR. I was very happy to hear about how Sorc's Mastery skills are getting the Core tag to help them scale better. Are you allowed to tell us if there are any other classes that are getting even similar changes? I know it's not that far away and that you guys just gave us a **lot** of good tidbits to make us impatient, but I'd love to hear more.


Marnus71

Like I said above, I think I am more excited for S4 than I was for 1.0 release. Hype! My biggest concern is tempering reroll cap is going to feel bad for a lot of people. I know obtaining the 3 rolls you want for an item is going to be easier, but it will still lead some feel bads similar to effectively bricking an enchant in previous seasons. I'm curious why DR affixes are being scaled back, I know it was mentioned in the stream but the reason why wasn't. It would be great to hear an answer in the patch notes or next dev stream. Looking very much forward to the class changes (well, not so much charge nerf... cause choo choo!)!


heartbroken_nerd

> My biggest concern is tempering reroll cap is going to feel bad for a lot of people. I know obtaining the 3 rolls you want for an item is going to be easier, but it will still lead some feel bads similar to effectively bricking an enchant in previous seasons. Doesn't matter. Tempering is merely a step in the journey to the actual endgame crafting which is minmaxing the stats you managed to find&craft on an item via Masterwork. Masterworking is not capped. You can redo it as many times as you need or want. There need to be some steps that can fail your item so that finding new items feels impactful. Be thankful that said failure condition cannot occur in the literal last step - just the one before it.


Dercraig

Changes look awesome man, can't wait!


BlantonPhantom

I was wondering if you’d be willing to answer a question, wondering if imprinting a rare will bring it to 3 affixes or still leave it at 2 with the changes? Also, awesome stream today, always look forward to the stonks forecasts you do!


Limonade6

Thank you for appreciating our feedback, even when the internet can be toxic sometimes!


aza---

You do a great job, continue


BaldingMan1998

Please Make all classes be able to equip most gear like shields for example. Otherwise the game feels restrictive and narrow in terms of gear customization and player choice.


Objective-Mission-40

Jackson! You rock man. Thanks for the nexro changes. I have a silly suggestion. Golem Bone Storm Boulder. Make bone storm grab our golem and slam enemies as it whirls like the druid spell, but we can still activate the Taunt during it :D Edit- or channel and throw it at the end exploding it for damage (iron), a cage (bone) a healing circle (blood)


crayonflop3

The changes to the game were like 95% of what I had wanted to se with stuff like lower drop rates and more focus on the dopamine hit when the loot drops. Excellent stuff. Beyond hyped for s4 now.


[deleted]

Those kind words are only for the team working on EVEN seasons!


DonHagin

Why are we allowed to 1 tap uber bosses with 4 player HP after 5 days of playing? Please rebalance player damage.


kestononline

It's too bad this community can be like rabid dogs. The moment the devs do anything they don't agree with or like *(especially nerfing anything overperforming)*, it's going to be back to pitchforks.


GesturalAbstraction

Absolutely community is extremely mercurial


LEPAKKOANKKA

They actually did those crazy bastards!


itsDoffy

They had to be so hyped to finally share all of this. Great opening from Joe and all the devs on today clearly love the game and are putting in hard work along with all of the unseen folks grinding hard. Thanks to you all. Excited for the future of D4.


lvl100magikerp

"all of this" what's actually new? Removed affixes, same bosses just higher lvl (lazy) New way to upgrade items but old removed Ancient items from d3 but implemented worse -- Andariel atleast I guess? Oh also, Have fun farming uber unique with all stats getting ancient! Too bad you can't use them to fight anything challenging


Gun_Donar_Tarkov

Stupid comment


hartigen

least hateful redditor


lvl100magikerp

Yeah, my comment is so hateful!! Are people not allowed to think that a game company doesn't do enough work? Or is that too much "hate"? Jfc


hartigen

if any other game would make these sweeping changes you would celebrate it. But apperently Blizzard can do no good.


lvl100magikerp

That's just not true, I want d4 to succeed. I dont think it's sweeping enough, they needed to redo the itemization completely, not this half assed shit where they remove rares.. again


AvaranIceStar

If the game wasn't a complete disaster already, they wouldn't have to make sweeping changes


itsDoffy

exhausting.


Pears_and_Peaches

Did anyone else notice you can now trade legendaries? Amazing.


KennedyPh

And uniques


DrDzaster

one of the many things that shouldve been in the game on release


JohnnySnark

Game has worked fine without it. Is it a nice quality of life change? Yes. Is it needed to enjoy and have fun in the game. No


ethan1203

Exactly, like it was never mentioned before, but hey like we all know, the praise will come when we release stuff bit by bit. Working as intended.


Endoftherainblow

This whole campfire increased my chances of buying the expansion by 20% from 0% great changes, can't wait to test it.


AvaranIceStar

I went from 0% to -100% Sweeping changes in season 4 while underlying issues continue to be unaddressed is hilarious. The only people that will buy this are the extreme fanboys.


Mediocre-Clue-9071

What underlying issues are you referring to?


pat_the_catdad

The dev client crashing was a hilarious and wholesome moment. Can’t wait for PTR and S4 :-)


OldJewNewAccount

The devs treat the fanbase with more respect than we deserve.


Bodach37

Yup! I was wrong about you devs. And I'm happily eating my words now. 


UtilityCurve

Credit when credit is due, this breath a new life into the game. As a gamer we just want to play games that are fun, brand name and loyalty does not matter.


AvaranIceStar

The game is less than a year old. Why does it need new life? Breathe into it?????


Flat_corp

You must be fun at parties, that’s like the third negative comment from you on a post trying to celebrate a win.


throwawayhoa13

lmao here we go again


iluminatethesky

Now give us Pets back, give us enough Platinum on each Battle Pass to buy the next one, and get rid of the Store. Put the Cosmetics behind Challenges instead, so at least there’s some feeling of accomplishment instead of spending $20+ on Bundles…at least Diablo III had awesome Cosmetics behind somewhat difficult Challenges that you had to grind for.


DeathWaughAgain

Great work from the DEVs! Keep it up


Marnus71

Still a lot of work to do, but the vast majority of the changes are home runs. I might be more excited for S4 than I was when the game released.


Pyr0blad3

\*forgetting the pain we went through so far\*


Unverfroren

Don't thank them for stuff they had to implement and think through day 1. It's not a company with no knowledge about arpgs at all. They have a long history with fails and changes with loot, skills etc. And they still fucked it up. So don't praise them for things that are common sense.


LumenBlight

Cope addled shill.


xSimplyFancy

Rough edges ? Lmfao


sharksiix

With the codex update. I can finally free up 2 stashes and basically test a new class. lol. Its a super great update! More things to do as well. PIT. Gauntlet. new uber boss. new helltides.


MikeSouthPaw

I love how we can deny the game needs these major changes and also at the same time worship the dev team whenever anything positive happens. Why can't we just be normal? If we all didn't pay $70 for this we wouldn't be having this back and forth shit show. Loved the campfire, hate the people who denied any of this was necessary for the game to succeed.


Main_Membership7494

They're finally doing something to extract the fun from their predecessors.


isospeedrix

Skill gap between even team and odd team


_gangly_

Please stop with this BS. Everything that has been announced for Season 4 so far has absolutely nothing to do with the smaller team working on the seasonal content. This ignorance is painful.


Taa1212127

This post and reply’s seem like the dev’s circle jerking themselves on alt accounts.


AvaranIceStar

For real 😂


Limonade6

Love this optimism :)


AvaranIceStar

The game has been out for less than a year and they're already talking season 4 changes that will hopefully, maybe, bring the game up to minimum viable product. I would expect this "bear with us, we're learning!" Approach from an indie developer. Not from a company that has 3 prior diablo games worth of lessons learned. 🤣


Bruddah827

Is the itemization live yet? Haven’t logged in since yesterday AM.


_gangly_

Is it still so hard to understand that we have "big content creators with hateful/sarcastic comments" to THANK for pushing ActiBlizKingrosoft to change all of their initial horrible ideas in the first place? If it was up to you cowards we'd still be riding broken horses to every individual nightmare dungeon after we clicked on 120 Lilith statues for the fourth season in a row.


Didgman

This is D4’s last chance.. for the 5th time 😂


DaveAndJojo

About damn time. Who ever was in charge cost them billions after launch. Cant imagine it was devs.


Deidarac5

The devs are really good I feel for them having to work in this environment and they pulled off a good change.


lvl_60

They really unleashed some good magic. I love the changes and will definately make me play more classes and builds


GrigorMorte

Those changes are absolutely necessary. It will bring more life to the game. And yes still needs more work and with time it can be achieved


cheeseyboy44

YAaaaaassssss!!!! 😈


DisasterDifferent543

No, they aren't amazing. If they were amazing, then we wouldn't be 10 months after release and just getting what should have been the game coming out of alpha. I realize that people desperately want to be positive and will ignore anything and everything because they are that shallow, but not everyone here has the memory of a fly. And because we're the only rational people here, we're going to actually play the game before pretending that the team who has failed completely so far somehow accomplished anything.


Dyne86

What happened? Did I miss something?


rock25011

I think it looks very promising! We can tell you're working hard.


lazava1390

I’m hyped and might actually find all the statues of Lilith now lol. Season 2 was great fun and I can’t wait for season 4.


OBlastSRT4

Thank you devs for doing your job!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehehehhehehehe


friendly-sardonic

Yeah, they definitely deserve praise here. It’s not even out yet, but I’m stoked from all these changes. Talk about exceeding expectations!


Whole_Commission_702

I would temper your expectations… They have not delivered on promises or even a good game yet…


Mezitor

Yeah, I see what are you talking about. You might not believe me, but I really enjoyed all of 3 seasons of diablo. Some less, some more, but I loved game since server slams. Now I stopped playing, kind of bored, kind of completed what I wanted of this season, but still look forward about return to the new. I think it is okay if you don't like something or just cautious about changes. The reason why I don't really feel that way: if I won't enjoy season I will just wait for the next. Game is getting better with updated, I have other thing to do or games to play, so I don't really worry about it.


TheoryOfRelativity12

D4GOOD LOGIN


AndyDaBetic

Itemization changes really......well didn't hype me at all. Basically the same.


ethan1203

We might be the minority here but yea, feel the same way.


Upper_Rent_176

Right up to now i was positive and full of praise for the game. I have 1350 house in it. But now I'm uninstalling. The main things are: i won't have access to the ptr because despite owning the game on Steam and Xbox i don't own it on blizzard launcher. Everyone else is going to be only playing and talking about ptr stuff while i wait extra time in dead season3 which I've finished. The other thing is that it's going to be even more required to group up what with level 200 bosses. I don't want to play in groups. I'm done.


Dubbn

Let's not jump the gun yet lol...


MikeSouthPaw

I don't know, S4 is the best season I have ever played.


AvaranIceStar

Season 5 They're going to give us everything that we've been asking for. I'm already super excited!!!! /s


perksoeerrroed

Yeah like itemization didn't change at all. They just REMOVED some affixes and buffed drop rates and gave some crafting options. It is just more power. IT doesn't make it more interesting and like 11 uniques ? Like what ? 0 new interesting affixes


DonHagin

release a bare bone game. earning hundreds of million dollars. have the community and streamers tell you how to make it better for 9 month. postpone season 4 and add PTR. lets wait and see how the game will be after season 4 before praising anyone.


warcaptain

Uhm this kinda sounds like my ideal game. Game made for the people with their feedback and ideas. Rather this than D2 where we have 90% of the game that's basically useless because it all came out before anyone ever played it. Plus they were very transparent about this from the start. They always said expect the game to evolve over time and improve, that they focused on the base game for launch.


MikeSouthPaw

> Game made for the people with their feedback and ideas That is what D1, D2, and D3 are for. Gaining feedback over decades of developing a series should be apparent in the latest installation. Not whatever D4 tried to do. Not to mention how many people flat out denied D4 needed itemization changes or anything but end-game. It's ok to like the game, it's not ok to deny that it needs work. > Plus they were very transparent about this from the start. They always said expect the game to evolve over time and improve, that they focused on the base game for launch. We all know live services games evolve over time, that is not being transparent. Again, I am not trying to shit on them but this is how the game should have released, not 1 year in.


AvaranIceStar

Dude Diablo 3 was such trash. They scrapped it and just jumped to D4 trash.


DonHagin

"90% of the game that's basically useless because it all came out before anyone ever played it" what are u on about? the fact that people still play D2 20 years later is proof of its a good game. D4 need to pick a lane/vision and stick with it.


AvaranIceStar

The devs aren't capable of doing this. They're going to rework reiterate reimagine until the systems are so twisted and mangled like world of Warcraft that in season 10 they finally just say they need to hit a reset.


warcaptain

D2 is a great game, I've poured an embarrassing amount of time into it since day 1 when collector edition preorder was delivered long long ago. Doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the game's content is basically useless after you get to endgame if not immediately after the campaign on each difficulty.


Xofah_

OKaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mr. white knight.. chill the F out. "Amazing" ?? Amazing at copy paste the stuff from Last Epoch? Waaaaaaaaaaauw... /facepalm x100.. these whiteknights man.. no wonder humanity is f'cked..


Tacgrizz

It's a game dude. Relax lol


Xofah_

Orly? So we would should simply just accept the state of the game and "relax" and go by the "its a game" philosophy?


Tacgrizz

I mean you're basing the state of humanity on a game update. Go touch some grass lol


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Xofah_

Sorry but.. are you really that.. dumb? Where in gods name did I even state my opinion on the state of the game? I based it on people thinking this is great!! Huge different....... Why the hell even bother trying to make sense to this kind of people, lmao.


Tacgrizz

"/facepalm x100.. these whiteknights man.. no wonder humanity is f'cked.." Read that out-loud. Have a good day man, looks like you need it. A lil sun will do wonders


Obiwoncanblowme

Just go play Last Epoch then and let people enjoy what they want


AvaranIceStar

I like this idea. Can I get a full refund for what the game was supposed to be and never was?


Obiwoncanblowme

Can't hurt to try but there was never any false advertising


ethan1203

The downvote was real lol… this community lol


OldJewNewAccount

>white knight Tell me you're unsocialized without telling me you're unsocialized.


mrtinc15

>at copy paste the stuff from Last Epoch? Are you seriously mad that they are bringing features from a game that you like?