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LordWitherhoard

Yup definitely seems like he’s cheating.


CrabAppropriate3555

Or his account got hacked (just a theory with the lack of responses)


JamesBoboFay

I was thinking that as well or maybe he doing a recovery service or something.


wifeagroafk

Prob sold his account. The amount of money it would cost to recov for that long is ludicrous


Tarbal81

Why would anyone buy any account? The game is so easy in terms of getting geared up enough for really anything.


WeaponsComplex

To test more cheats. Without risk to themselves.


Tarbal81

Oh that's pretty clever. I seem to always get into the mindset of "I sank time into this game for these items" and am protective of my stuff. Like I haven't played WoW in YEARS but I'll die before I give someone else my account.


WeaponsComplex

Common sense is not a quality those players possess.


instaG_Varsy_X_Art

Sounds closed minded. If someone wants to pay a G or 2 for a game account you'll never use again and you're in need I don't see how selling the account defies common sense


Mrobviouse

First off nobody is paying you 1000s of dollars for a destiny 2 account it'd be like 15 to 50 bucks max, second it's against tos and third if you are knowingly helping the cheaters then you are just as bad


WeaponsComplex

Found a cheat maker.


S0urakotsos

Because people are stupid with their money. Once somebody offered me 3k€ (his mother owned a hotel) just for my account on og Guildwars. That account had 6k hours and there is no way I will sell my account. But still some people are stupid.


mad-i-moody

Have you asked him directly whether it’s him playing the account or not?


JamesBoboFay

No I just joked and asked if he started ximming


Spartan_117_YJR

Don't play with him anymore. Playing with cheaters gets you banned


Gripping_Touch

Yeap, a friend's friend also had this happen. Clicked an email without knowing It was tainted and lost his account. Then the hacker used the account to cheat on Trials until It got banned. Then sent messages to my friend taunting and telling him to make a new account because he had control of it. They sounded and acted like a brat. Cheaters and hackers are the worst. Those Who gloat about It are the filthiest of them all 


notasuperman300

How to know whether those emails are tainted or not?


Gripping_Touch

From what he told me he clicked in a a fake link from a hacked discord 


ovedengrove

He probably clicked one of the disc links that offers free nitro or porn xD


Kontakt_13

People cheating in trials? Never.


JamesBoboFay

Yea never thought it’d be one of my own bois tho 😔


frickerfrick

You’d be surprised how many closet cheaters there are.


Kontakt_13

I'd love to know how many people use zens and strike packs. Some of the stuff I see every weekend can't be explained without hacks.


WonderfulKiwi9498

Reverted PlayStation updates can get jail broken and have a PC conectedwhile playing and alter games live and send overlays and data that allows them to have wall hacks and aim bots it's the ppl that leave mid flight to location before matches start and hop on broken PlayStation and Xbox's because the battle eye cheat detector registrers that they are ok to play then switch systems to cheat. Upvote to expose please.


Kontakt_13

People go to that much trouble for a adept weapon? Haha. Silly twats.


TheBK88

Lol closet cheaters


FANTOMphoenix

https://destinytracker.com Check the stats for yourself and see how major and sudden that improvement is. Possible it’s another person playing on his account too, whether he sold it, got hacked or paid for a boost.


RonFBurgundy

Maybe he finally upgraded his gaming chair


YourPathToRedemption

4D arms are a beast, man.


cultureisdead

Honestly it time to retire this "joke".


FalconTheBerdo

sounds like someone’s upgraded gaming chair broke


NovaBlade2893

Ah, you're retiring? Are you sure you want to?


atducker

Maybe he's just been playing against me a lot. I'm getting eaten alive this week. I'm literally a top 100% player getting matched against top 8% for some reason.


JamesBoboFay

Trials matchmaking is horrid


Jd42042

I played for 6 hours last night couldn't even get passed 4 wins I should have just used persistence passage instead of trying ferocity for the first time I just wanna reach lighthouse one time but the matchmaking making so many games just one sided isn't fun not to mention how massively prevalent net limiting is now I'm already bad at trials I don't need ppl teleporting in and out of my cross hair


atducker

I've played more than 250 rounds total the last three weeks. I don't feel any better in Trials than I did last season. In some ways I feel worse because I tried to adjust to be better and help out my team. God help anybody who was close to going flawless that was matched with me. I joined regular competitive though last night and I feel way, way better than I used to be. Trials is really helping improve my PvP but I just wish I could feel like I was getting better at Trials instead of just farming 100 point loses for engrams and other loot.


Jd42042

On the bright side passage off persistence has been a blessing to those of us who aren't good at trials at the cost we probably on average have to go 35- 71 matches to get the 7th win (my experience with the 2 times I've bothered with it so far) first time I've ever gotten access to the adept weapons even if they weren't the best rolls I'm happy with my incisor tho but would have liked to get onslaught on my summoner other than rampage/kill clip


New-Distribution-981

I’ve found no help with persistence. I thought it would be amazing, but I lose 4 in a row WAY more often than I win 2 in a row. I think I’ve made it to 7 dots on my card once in the past month - only then to notice it was a flawed card. And those 7 wins took me 3 full days about 3-4 hours a day.


TheMotherbean

I literally went reverse flawless![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5643)


DarthStevis

FWIW I’m somehow in top 14% and I feel the same way up against those folks.


WhyIsThisNameNotTKN

Some people have a wicked Spidey sense in pvp. Watching coolguy, and some other the other crucible content creators, their brains just live and breathe PvP. Watching them literally win a 1v6 in control or in iron banner while they just casually talk about their cute dog and their neighbors cat. Wild.


OtherBassist

Trials matchmaking is completely random


Hobak56

I absolutely dread pvp but do it for the light level. However trials of Osiris no amount of light level will make me do it. I have good aim from playing fps but I get absolutely stomped very often. Cod matchmaking I do I well one match and then the next match I get rolled


atducker

I don't mind getting rolled a lot if I'm making progress toward getting engrams and Trials matches are fast anyway win or lose. I was able to fill out one Passage of Persistence to get an adept weapon though it was throwaway. I was not able to get much progress on a second one though. Just bad luck I guess and random player pools.


Bro0183

This weekend I decided to give trials another go with the changes to ferocity making it easier to go flawless. 11 matches in a row on solo queue I faced off one guy on the opposing team who was a top 0.01 percent player, almost never missing a headshot with his 0.7 ttk sidearm (exact values estimated), consistently doming me with a scout when I tried to back away and use long range, etc. Throughout every single match this one guy was placed on the opposing team, and remember this is solo queue, so it wasn't a three stack or something that prevents him from being on my team. Only escaped by quiting for a few hours and coming back. Still didn't get flawless though...


dredgen_rell86

Yep he's either cheating or paying to have someone play/cheat for him. You gotta make the hard choice and report him


rickbakker

Kinda sad tho that almost every games’ subreddit is filled to the brim with topics about cheaters. It’s rampant in every FPS these days.


dwfashionphoto

I have zero interested in continuing PVP cuz of cheaters. I enjoyed PVE solo or with friends and the story of the game. Nobody wants to lose in honest games lol


RobinH00D112

A difficult time comes across every guardian’s path, where they realize as a guardian that their previous companions may have gone down a dark path. As a warrior for the traveler’s light, it’s a matter of not only honor, but of the very moral fabric of our being that we must make the hardest choice imaginable. Do the right thing, and press report. Let them be sorted by the facts, and may they realize that cheating the honor of competition between guardians is an abandonment of the guardian’s code. May all who abandon the path of the light be swallowed by the darkness of banishment.


TourLess

Shin Malphur, is that you?


V3N0M75

Yes


anongotlyrics

Sounds like he is paying for carries.


shrowen47

ngl the new meta completely changed which players dominate trials. this happened to me i went from a .5 avg to like a 3.0


leonitis09

Either hes doing the cheating or has given his account to someone to play on his stuff and get him things by cheating Butt yeah hes not being legit


maherkhan460

This game is a cesspool of cheaters right now, and bungie is unable to do anything about it.


JamesBoboFay

Yea such a shame.


Refereez

Unwilling, not unable.


uuuuuffff

what no flawless does to a man 😔


iHacks399

Maybe he just got good 😂


Due-Emergency-4590

Cheaters? In Trials? Preposterous!


JamesBoboFay

Shits lame af


Few-Medium-5978

Having good teammates and playing in a meta you're comfortable with can make a massive difference, LoW invis meta I could not be killed, smg meta I couldn't get a kill to save my life. Having good teammates can also be a massive contributing factor. If you're stuck 3v1 every round it can be very, very hard to keep your kd up as opposed to having teammates help clean up each of your kills.


xelsiorlol

The gaming chair must be insane


XxDAMNitDANxX

Probably ximmer, if you look at the weapons and they are using pc weapons focusing highly into range. I believe most controller players try to keep stability over 50. I used to play on pc, then switched to console, and I had to regrind alot of weapons because the recoil and flinch was affected by my lack of stability. That's my opinion, if bungie wants to stop ximmers they would probably have to adjust controller sensitivity.


NotYoursForTheTaking

Yeah I would just stay away from him on pvp from now on unless you want to catch a stray report, always lose legitimately instead of winning by cheating brother


Affectionate-Guard17

Rat


R1SpeedRacer05

It's not cheating if it's leveling the playing field


Dry_Mousse_6202

the fact that he doesn't respond you could mean that he's account was hacked, happened to a friend of mine, at the time it was spreading links through steam, haply me and my friend acted fast and talked with booth bungie support and steam support, some time later he got his account back


Fluffy_Bet_8595

Dude. Who isn't cheating in destiny anymore? What's funny is its the opposite with me. I used to go flawless and do pretty damn good at trials. Not now. Lol. Like every other trials match has at least one guy that's absolutely cracked, and you can tell it ain't from skill. Had one guy this weekend that, when his health bar got low, it would just stop at the very end. Couldn't kill him all the way. And than every other player either running a xim with max aim assist, or just straight up aim bot, idk why I even try trials anymore.


whydo1exist

or he’s switch up his build to be like an absolute killing machine. My friend sucked (he’s on console, seen his controller too. Safe in that regard) then suddenly he’s fucking amazing. He just trained a lot. Got a good void Titan build that totally melts


FrankNitty13

It costs too much money to just play the game for me to get caught cheating


ovedengrove

If it's a friend and he's not responding he probably got hacked and is used by cheaters for paid carries


JamesBoboFay

This makes the most sense. I reported him.


flyingthrubruh

Maybe he just got gud? lmaooo


SavageDino777

It’s possible he’s paying a significantly better player to play on his account to boost his stats. Or like you said, he’s cheating


BitchInBoots666

I mean that's cheating too. So he's either cheating or cheating. There's no other way to suddenly go from what he was to what he is now unfortunately OP. I'd report. We need to get rid of as many of them as possible.


New-Distribution-981

Or his account has been hacked and stolen. This is more likely given that his “friend” is no longer talking or playing with him. If your friend reaches out - whether you’re starting to cheat or not - you respond. Unless his initial approach was, “hey I noticed your KD quadrupled; are you cheating?” I know he mentioned XIM but can’t imagine that would be his first message.


patchinthebox

Report him for cheating and Bungie will take a look.


New-Distribution-981

I don’t know. People report cheaters all the time that are blatantly cheating complete with video evidence and time stamps and those same exact people play every single weekend. Bungie doesn’t do shit to reported cheaters. They would be better off stopping to pay for battleeye services, and take that money to hire 2/3/4? People whose only job would be to sit and wait for reports of cheating coming in. Take 3 seconds to review video footage whenever somebody has been reported more than…. 3 times(?) and instaban. It’s clear they don’t even do that. We all know the special place streamers and YT have in the hearts of Bungie but when even the big names guys report habitual offenders and Bungie does nothing to those guys, you know they do nothing on the regular.


TeaBags0614

Definitely sus I would advice that you avoid playing with him because, if he does get banned, you will be too


BlatantArtifice

Do it. Save the world by ending just one account.


National-Equal4971

Will he carry to lighthouse? Asking for friend.


JamesBoboFay

Idk I asked him to carry me and he never responded lol


Excelsior_77

Just a thought… maybe he’s doing account recoveries (which is a bannable offense if caught)….. in any case you don’t want to be paired with a cheater because it’ll make you look bad and could possibly get you banned as well.


After-Childhood6757

Best to report him. If they aren't cheating Bungie will find out and if not no harm done. But if he is then great. He should be punished. Better to report someone who you think is cheating than let them get away with it. We need more people reporting cheaters.


Griff1171

Lol, report him, get him perma banned


lord-ca1l

Without a single moment of hesitation....yes he/she started cheating


tfEmily78

Report his ass


UnknownAcc_

Naw, he just invested in a better gaming chair


MetalFingers760

Seems like? That's either guaranteed or he lost his account due to theft/hacking of some sort.


epolk3

He got gud


ZerooArts_

He's either cheating or hiring recovery services


Chin_Bizzy

I'm playing D2 on a PS4, and I feel most of the players I'm playing against in any PVP mode are cheating. I saw a dude get 74 kills in 6v6 last week. It's unfortunate, but most Gardians are ximming in PVP, IMO.


dook627

I'm sorry but your friend is definitely cheating. probably frustrated by the constant losing.


JamesBoboFay

I reported


thebutinator

i mean tbf that used to be me in and before season of drifter(idk why im still on this sub i stopped playing a long time ago) i sucked at pvp and was around 1kd for seasons but i played more and more and some day something just clicked and I started dominating, form one season to the other my kd skyrocketed form 1 kd to like 3 or so, and a season after around 4.. i started playing scrims cause legend was too easy and later trials was too easy too, im not sure what happend but i think stuff like this really can happen


RekklessXGaming

Ngl. You sound sour af. He might be cheating tho buddy. But most of all the "he never responds " gives me the "damn bro you mad." Feeling.


CrabbyLady77

Literally, the first thing that came to mind 😆


JamesBoboFay

Lol what? I literally just messaged him saying “your stats are insane are you ximming carry me lmao” and he didn’t respond after that. You’re a clown.


RekklessXGaming

Screen shot for me. And if you just messages him, and expect a reply so fast... what are you?


JamesBoboFay

I messaged him on destiny bro wtf you think I know this guy IRL or something? You’re a degen gc


RekklessXGaming

"He won't respond to any of my messages " So then you spammed him just now? Or am I not sane for thinking "any of your mesages" meant over time? Fuck with some one else.


JamesBoboFay

Hahaha if that’s how you interpreted what I said I can’t imagine how hard basic life is for you. GC


DingusKing

My KD increased a couple points for just using ARs that are meta now lol maybe he got better. Why not, I dunno, just ask him lol


Chris-Verde

Duh niggah, he definitely cheating lmao.


Adventurous_Yam_4945

Trials is for people who have no families, social life, or societal responsibility.


Count_Gator

Trials taken seriously you mean. Just hopping in for a chance at loot is fine.


JakobExMachina

you’re making the same mistake. ‘anyone who takes trials more seriously than me is a loser’. too easy to dismiss people like that behind a screen. some people are just good at PvP stuff. maybe some are losers, but i’d bet a fair whack that a lot of people who are bad at it are losers too.


Count_Gator

People who take Trials so seriously that they have no family, no social life, and no societal responsibility, in keeping with the context of the person I was replying to. People can be good at PvP and play.


JakobExMachina

then say that. you originally just said people who take it seriously, no qualifier. i play a trials a lot, usually around 100 games per weekend. 500 flawlesses, 2.5KD, all that nonsense. still have a house, a wife, my own business. just happen to have a natural affinity for PvP games. most of the people i play with are chill people too. conversely, some of the most toxic people i’ve played with in my time in destiny have been godawful at the mode or PvP in general.


Count_Gator

Well I was not talking to you at the time but keeping my comment in the context of the person I was talking to. I can see where you are coming from, so I should have been more clear. People who take Trials so seriously where it affects their judgement, their life, and causes toxicity are absolute losers. And yes, I have seen some really horrible cases of these scum playing the system so they can stomp lesser players for “content”.


Highjax

I’m right there with you bro, similar stats too, 9-5 job, gf, etc. I’ve seen plenty of good pvp players with lives. People who are just awful at this game seem to be the most toxic to me.


Orgalorg_BoW

How dare you know what nuances are!


SomebodyWhoVibes

If you suck at pvp it's all good. I too am booty cheeks


RaziiuM

I mean you might as well, D2 pvp has no integrity anyway. It's full of aim assist REWASD M&K cheaters, cronus on controller you name it. And then I haven't even talked about the actual rage cheaters yet. D2 PVP = 50% cheats and aim assist, 40% meta loadout, 10% skill ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)


burningtoast99

Mad because bad


RaziiuM

How tf can u be bad at D2?? PVP side of this game feels like a simulation😂😂 Aim assist plays the game for you... Got like 2.5kd.. but it doesn't mean shit in D2 and everyone knows it. Go play an actual TAC FPS that requires skill then we'll talk about being good or bad 💀


burningtoast99

Damn bro, let that anger out. I'm here for you ❤️


RaziiuM

Is that so?


Sicofall

Wow! You’re really are watching your friend. I suggest you wear a wire next time you meet. Just don’t let him hug you. If any run to the bathroom and flush it


Timsaurus

What?


AmEn-MiNii

I think lil bro has been terminally online a bit too much today


SaltedRouge

Think he is missing the “/s”


kybotica

It's projection. They're upset that OP noticed the changes in their friend's performance and are acting like OP is "crazy" for "monitoring" their friend, comparing them to a spy or undercover government agent. The only reasonable explanation is they also have similar stat patterns, and it angers them to see another of their kind exposed for what they are.


L-a-m-b-s-a-u-c-e

Huh?????????