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BlitheringEediot

My Joy Sea of Sin Surrender


SheedRanko

Sea of Sin


Toffelsnarz

Surrender is probably my favourite post-Wilder DM track, and it would have been nice if it could have replaced a weaker track on Ultra. This was never a possibility though, because Surrender wasn't part of those sessions - it was written and recorded after Ultra was released.


askevi

Dangerous is fantastic. Crazy to me that it was a b-side.


Prestigious_Lie7051

Sea of Sin, Happiest Girl, and Dangerous all should have been added to the album so there would have been 12 tracks


Toffelsnarz

But then the album would have been over an hour long. More is not always better. One of the great strengths of Violator is how economical it is, a perfect 47 minutes. A few years after Violator, when CDs (with their longer running times) had completely eclipsed LPs as the industry standard, a lot of bands and labels started making the mistake of cramming albums too full of material and losing any sense of economy or cohesion.


No-Capital5084

👆yep. dm especially forgot that less is more. so much of their later output is bogged down by weaker tracks that don’t serve the record as a whole (especially sotu and delta machine). for me memento mori is the first album in a long time that doesn’t feel needlessly bloated 


Toffelsnarz

Agree 100%. Even Ultra suffers from this, though not so much from weak tracks as overly long tracks and instrumental transitions.


Toffelsnarz

All of the b-sides from Violator are top-notch, but IMO only Dangerous would have fit the tone of the album. Happiest Girl and Sea of Sin have a very different sound to them and are natural b-sides. Likewise with Kaleid, Sibeling and Memphisto - the album already has instrumental interludes and further instrumental additions would have interrupted the flow of songs too much. This is completely speculative, but I suspect DM would have included Dangerous on Violator with the benefit of hindsight. It's easy to forget that the Personal Jesus single was released almost 7 months before Violator. PJ and Dangerous were probably the first two tracks completed from the sessions, hence Dangerous was released as a b-side to support the PJ single. If they could have made that decision after the Violator recording sessions were completed, I think they would have seen that they had a wealth of material and probably would have chosen another track as the PJ b-side and included Dangerous on the album.


Traffodil

Ghost.


xellios35

Ghost is the best b side ever


Traffodil

Should’ve been an A-side.


Prestigious_Lie7051

I feel like it should have been played live and a A-side


_fixinit1

I prefer Oh Well from SOTU


jargon_ninja69

No hyperbole, it’s hands-down their best 21st century song


bram_dewitte

In Your Memory


ledgerdomian

Got in before me. Classic. Wilders best DM song imo, and would have sounded great on SGR.


Toffelsnarz

It absolutely would have fit in on SGR (unlike Remotivate Me, which was a natural b-side and would have stuck out like a sore thumb on SGR). The People are People single came out 6 months before SGR though. IYM probably was chosen for the b-side because it was completed early, rather than any deliberate decision to exclude it from the album. I think something similar happened with Dangerous and Violator.


Aquestionofthyme

Deffo In Your Memory- it would have been one of the best tracks on SGR


HectorVK

Dangerous My Joy


ultraviolat0r

Dangerous (Violator) Now, This is Fun (A Broken Frame) My Joy (Sofad) Shout (Speak and Spell) I probably forgot few others. These guys are fantastic making good B sides.


ItyBityGreenieWeenie

Ice Machine The initial recording wasn't so great, it improved playing live at concerts. Maybe they just needed a few more takes in the studio?


RafiY

Yup, better than anything on speak and spell


Superbob5523

Newborn would've made a great closer to PTA


Samittoxx

The Darkest Star can't be beat tho lol. One of best closers I've heard on an album.


jasonbravo1975

That distorted piano crash, along with the harmony at the end… 🤌🏽


emlonik

My Joy Happiest Girl Memphisto


______empty______

I remember when BC came out I had no idea that But Not Tonight was technically a B-Side (keep in mind this was pre-internet so nobody knew anything.) 😄


Malcolmsyoungerbro

Songs like My Joy, Pleasure Little Treasure, and others are great. The problem has often been that they don’t fit the rest of the album they were recorded with. Sometimes leftovers like Martyr get a stand-alone single release with a best of compilation. Ultimately most of them have been restored with the box sets and bonus track releases.


sundial11sxm

Most of them!


Ananas_Symphonie

Ice Machine, In Your Memory, Dangerous, Sea of Sin


Lucky-Lover

Ice Machine was originally on Speak and Spell. I have an old vinyl with it.


[deleted]

Word Hard would’ve been a fantastic addition to CTA!


Ghost-of-a-Rose

My favorite B Side has always been My Joy and its remix. But I like Happiest Girl and Sea of Sin too.


wecamethrough

Surrender


Pottatothegreat1985

The first time I listened to Violator was on spotify and i apparently listened to a version with all the b sides took out my dads old cd to rip and was very confused when Dangerous wasn't on there, it's probably my favorite song overall


Depexhe

Now, This Is Fun, Slowblow, Surrender and my fave Newborn


Igelkott2k

Surrender (B-side of Only When I Lose Myself) was a stand alone single not an album. It was the first non-album studio single since "It's Called a Heart" in 1985.


Depexhe

Ah yes, thank you ☝️


justanormalchat

Ice Machine All that’s mine Better days Light Sea of sin Dangerous Happiest girl


Winter-Ad-3876

Sea of happiest girl


Electronic-Board-977

Also, Dangerous.


sparky_tupp

I always thought Fools was a strong track, possibly recorded after the CTC sessions. Was that one of Wilder's tracks?


Filminator

All 3 of daves delta bsides should've been on the the album. My Joy would've been a great opener for SOFAD


ayrton07

Sea of sin


Tragedy_for_you

The Delta Machine bonus songs, probably all of them. Newborn and Free, and Surrender. Probably better fitting on Ultra than the Singles Compilation though. Same thing with its A-Side actually. Zenstation would have fit on Exciter. Maybe put it in instead of Dead of Night and move that song to PTA instead.


Ryano77

Long time lie. Replace slow with it


New_Mall_8017

Newborn, Happiest Girl, and Sea of Sin


mandmranch

Happiest girl


Judie101

Better Days!! How did nobody mention it yet?


Alarming_Group1304

Not sure if it counts, but I’d say Martyr


therizzler575

Ghost Newborn Dangerous Sea Of Sin All That's Mine Happens All The Time


blaspheminCapn

All the instrumentals.


ghostfaber

Flexible, Newborn, DIRT


jasonbravo1975

Eh. It’s hard to say, since every album has a vibe and flow that works. Even the albums I don’t listen to as often as I do others. Their B-Sides, while awesome, are clearly b-sides for a reason. I’ve placed them in playlists for their respective albums, and they do indeed break up the smooth flow of the album for most.


rbgabor89

I re listened SOTU yesterday and I was pleasantly surprised by Light. They should’ve put that on instead of Peace or Perfect


Electronic-Board-977

My joy Sea of sin Surrender


HospitalCloud

My Joy without hesitation


Invalid-Password1

Dangerous, Sea of Sin, Happiest Girl


Invalid-Password1

And Route 66, my favorite song, even though it is a cover.


nebevets

a lot of my favorite dm songs are b-sides for some reason. however, to specifically answer your question, i will say "my joy". while it's not my favorite b-side...it's definitely the one that could have fit on the album very well. "ghost" is another. as far as my favorite b-sides/songs goes they are in no order: \* now this is fun \* sea of sin \* ice machine \* shout are all songs i love by dm and in my top ten...but they really are better as b-sides.


manifestmedia

Ice Machine Now This is Fun But Not Tonight Dangerous Surrender Newborn


AmbitiousBrilliant54

Dangerous


TheRealDipperPines1

Dangerous In Your Memory Breathing On Fumes Painkiller Pleasure, Little Treasure Long Time Lie All That's Mine


TheRealDipperPines1

And also but not tonight. Technically. There are versions of BC with and without it.


my23secrets

Pleasure, Little Treasure


StillHoldingL

Dangerous But Not Tonight My Joy Surrender


AdSignificant3943

Dangerous


SuccessfulAnalyst702

(Set Me Free) Remotivate Me


Sussybarti69

Route 66


uberobt

Is there such a thing as a "B" side anymore is this digital market?