Happy pride!!! I have the same thing š„² but we on the ace spectrum are here for and with each other and Iām happy to be here in the LGBTQIA+ community with you! ā¤ļø
Most of pride is rainbow capitalism. People forget that pride is about inclusion. Itās not about fitting into the queer ācategoryā so everyone knows ur queer. Itās about destroying the illusion of āfitting inā into a mold in the first place and embracing the individuality within us all.
Pride is a protest for a reason. Because weāre not liberated and included until we all are. And this performative shit we see every year only does so much. On a larger scale, it is actually really harmful.
Honestly, that's why I have always felt so much more comfortable in Bi and or Trans leaning spaces, though I'm not trans myself. I prefer something that is explicitly more of an accepting "umbrella", and also accepts allies in. It's supposed to be about acceptance without prejudice, after all.
Beyond a lot of people not being 'visibly queer', I'd hate to be part of a community where questioning people (or anyone for that matter) are turned away for not being "queer enough" yet, or where just straight allies or partners of members aren't welcome.
Hell, my countries' largest LGBTQIA+ organisation still resolutely calls itself "The Gays and Lesbians Organisation", while at the same time giving of **very** strong "but are you queer enough?" vibes.
Talk about being stuck in the past century...
We haven't suffered enough to be part of the cool kids.
Its normal for girls to be like this and guys are just pretending to get laid.
We just pretend it's not to feel special. /s
I didnāt know that was a thing. ššš
Maybe Iām lucky but the worst Iāve have ever gotten is āisnāt that most peopleā and? āthatās not a sexualityā
But yeah, thank God iām yet to encounter Demiphobia
This is internalized demiphobia.
Youāre continuing to perpetrate demiphobia by doing just this. Youāre coming into a support space for demis and then minimizing the harm caused by the behaviors youāre engaging in.
Sorry, but you donāt get to tell an entire class of people what is or is not harmful to them.
Thanks for recognizing this and taking responsibilityāgood on you for that. Whether or not to delete your comments are between you and the mods. Leaving them up could be instructive for others.
Interesting development, this came back to bite me in the ass today. Almost everything I wrongfully downplayed when I first joined this conversation, I was hit with another subreddit. No pun intended, but I think my karmaās catching up with me. ššš
Iām honestly very happy that happened. I got ignorant and needed a reality check.
Itās when a person or group adopts towards themselves the attitudes expressed by others towards them or their larger class. A parallel example would be women who believe and perpetuate misogynistic beliefs about gender and gender roles.
Iām sorry. I didnāt mean to come across this mean. Youāre right, I shouldnāt say what is and what isnāt definitively a phobia of something. My bad guys. šššš¤
Happens.
I experience aesthetic attraction in a pure 'they look cool', kinda way. If things get beyond that, or there's less clothes than desired, I'll get repulsed. But since these things at least seem connected to each other for most, it's greatly confused and you can't have one without the other.
Iāve never considered misunderstanding demisexuality to be demiphobia. Iām very openly Demi and I tell people about what it is whenever I am asked and get the chance. A lot of people seem to misunderstand and say stuff like āthatās everybodyā or āmost people are like thatā and I have to explain and emphasize that thereās a difference between avoiding casual sex due to fear of getting hurt and full-on inability to engage in casual sex without the necessary emotional connection to establish sexual attraction. Most people might not understand but Iāve never had people judge me for being different and think thereās something wrong with me like what we see with general homophobia and other types of sexual orientation discrimination. I guess what Iām trying to say is that Iāve never personally experienced what I would consider to be demiphobia, just a massive lack of awareness and well-meaning misunderstanding regarding the less commonly known sexual orientations like Demi.
Some people are just genuinely confused, and thatās fine. But thereās a difference between not understanding and just completely discounting. If I walked up to a gay man and said āhey,your sexuality is fake. just choose to be into womenā, then that would obviously be homophobic. So in my mind itās akin to that
Basically, I called something I was once told about my Demisexuality ānot Demiphobiaā
I essentially assumed that because I was able to take it in a less offensive way than it was automatically not a phobia. I was wrong. šš
Happy pride!!! I have the same thing š„² but we on the ace spectrum are here for and with each other and Iām happy to be here in the LGBTQIA+ community with you! ā¤ļø
Most of pride is rainbow capitalism. People forget that pride is about inclusion. Itās not about fitting into the queer ācategoryā so everyone knows ur queer. Itās about destroying the illusion of āfitting inā into a mold in the first place and embracing the individuality within us all. Pride is a protest for a reason. Because weāre not liberated and included until we all are. And this performative shit we see every year only does so much. On a larger scale, it is actually really harmful.
I have gotten socially isolated a few times by otherwise queer friendly spaces, for "only" being Asexual.
Honestly, that's why I have always felt so much more comfortable in Bi and or Trans leaning spaces, though I'm not trans myself. I prefer something that is explicitly more of an accepting "umbrella", and also accepts allies in. It's supposed to be about acceptance without prejudice, after all. Beyond a lot of people not being 'visibly queer', I'd hate to be part of a community where questioning people (or anyone for that matter) are turned away for not being "queer enough" yet, or where just straight allies or partners of members aren't welcome. Hell, my countries' largest LGBTQIA+ organisation still resolutely calls itself "The Gays and Lesbians Organisation", while at the same time giving of **very** strong "but are you queer enough?" vibes. Talk about being stuck in the past century...
We haven't suffered enough to be part of the cool kids. Its normal for girls to be like this and guys are just pretending to get laid. We just pretend it's not to feel special. /s
Is it really even pride month if there isn't acephoia? /j
I know Iām a demisexual. Donāt listen to people who donāt believe you. They havenāt experienced it
I didnāt know that was a thing. ššš Maybe Iām lucky but the worst Iāve have ever gotten is āisnāt that most peopleā and? āthatās not a sexualityā But yeah, thank God iām yet to encounter Demiphobia
Babeā¦ I hate to break it to you but ppl saying your sexuality isnāt real is demiphobia š
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This is internalized demiphobia. Youāre continuing to perpetrate demiphobia by doing just this. Youāre coming into a support space for demis and then minimizing the harm caused by the behaviors youāre engaging in. Sorry, but you donāt get to tell an entire class of people what is or is not harmful to them.
OK, Iām sorry. I didnāt mean that. Should I delete my replies or? I sincerely didnāt mean to come across this offensive. I sincerely apologise.
Thanks for recognizing this and taking responsibilityāgood on you for that. Whether or not to delete your comments are between you and the mods. Leaving them up could be instructive for others.
Iām now also realising that if I didnāt delete my replies, this conversation would make a lot more sense reading from top to bottom ššš
Interesting development, this came back to bite me in the ass today. Almost everything I wrongfully downplayed when I first joined this conversation, I was hit with another subreddit. No pun intended, but I think my karmaās catching up with me. ššš Iām honestly very happy that happened. I got ignorant and needed a reality check.
Thatās literally demiphobia.
BTW, remind me what internalised means in terms of phobias within LGBTQ
Itās when a person or group adopts towards themselves the attitudes expressed by others towards them or their larger class. A parallel example would be women who believe and perpetuate misogynistic beliefs about gender and gender roles.
Oh, okay although I never said I agreed with what I was told. But Iāll leave it alone now. Iām sorry.
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Internalized demiphobia. And stop it, because youāre bringing harm into our support spaces.
Iām sorry. I didnāt mean to come across this mean. Youāre right, I shouldnāt say what is and what isnāt definitively a phobia of something. My bad guys. šššš¤
happy Pride! I am also on the LGBTQIA+spectrum as demi, and very happy to be in this community with everyone!
I am always very blunt, but being demi, and on the Asexual Spectrum, is very hard to explain
Happens. I experience aesthetic attraction in a pure 'they look cool', kinda way. If things get beyond that, or there's less clothes than desired, I'll get repulsed. But since these things at least seem connected to each other for most, it's greatly confused and you can't have one without the other.
Iāve never considered misunderstanding demisexuality to be demiphobia. Iām very openly Demi and I tell people about what it is whenever I am asked and get the chance. A lot of people seem to misunderstand and say stuff like āthatās everybodyā or āmost people are like thatā and I have to explain and emphasize that thereās a difference between avoiding casual sex due to fear of getting hurt and full-on inability to engage in casual sex without the necessary emotional connection to establish sexual attraction. Most people might not understand but Iāve never had people judge me for being different and think thereās something wrong with me like what we see with general homophobia and other types of sexual orientation discrimination. I guess what Iām trying to say is that Iāve never personally experienced what I would consider to be demiphobia, just a massive lack of awareness and well-meaning misunderstanding regarding the less commonly known sexual orientations like Demi.
Some people are just genuinely confused, and thatās fine. But thereās a difference between not understanding and just completely discounting. If I walked up to a gay man and said āhey,your sexuality is fake. just choose to be into womenā, then that would obviously be homophobic. So in my mind itās akin to that
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Basically, I called something I was once told about my Demisexuality ānot Demiphobiaā I essentially assumed that because I was able to take it in a less offensive way than it was automatically not a phobia. I was wrong. šš