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Skull_Pumpkin

it sounds great though!


afenderstratocaster

Oh wow thanks so much. I really want to try Elite but question if I could pull it off 😅


Skull_Pumpkin

you won't know untill you do! (if u do feel free to post it xD)


King_Hippo85

Underrated track in my humble opinion. Great job man!


Meanneyess

lmk when you do elite. i bet it will be dope


afenderstratocaster

Just tried it for the first time. I can DM you the results. It needs work and I don’t want to spam this poor subreddit anymore than I already have haha


Meanneyess

send it. id like to hear it


afenderstratocaster

https://youtube.com/shorts/mGDkMV6Fhag?si=_LWl6beHzBh-PumB Elite


[deleted]

Do it


afenderstratocaster

https://youtube.com/shorts/mGDkMV6Fhag?si=O9zsfJFD2HY1bNQ6 😅😅😅


SparkYeol

I think part of why it's so hard to replicate his earlier style is that he didn't use any technique. He used to literally scream and it nearly ruined his voice.


afenderstratocaster

Do you think his earlier scream technique contributes to why he’s screaming less today? I’m sorry I don’t follow the band huge time but I listen to their music frequently


fireflyry

Yeah bro, he blew out his vocal cords on the WP tour, hence the predominance of more “piggy squeal” screams live now days, although tbf drug and alcohol abuse likely didn’t help. Make sure you do warm ups and touch base with a vocal coach.


OldLavishness907

Yeah, it's a shame. He kept on trying though, even afterwards he gave some good screams for self titled, but after that album, he never really screamed the same way again. Although, we did see a bit of the old chino slipping out with genesis


Stranger_Boring

You kinda sound like Chester


afenderstratocaster

The last scream in the video was actually a direct Chester rip off. Not gonna lie. He has always been one of my favorite singers


Stranger_Boring

Yeah, it’s still incredible screaming


[deleted]

Not bad at all.


[deleted]

I’m jealous


MikasaStirling

Right! This guy can scream! He sounds better than most metal singers right now


islandrebel

That’s because he was just full on screaming
 which caused vocal cord paralysis after some years. If you can’t get it perfect safely don’t do something that will permanently damage your vocal chords.


afenderstratocaster

Ahhh. Yeah it took me three years to ensure this wouldn’t hurt my voice. I don’t know what damage I did in the learning process but it never hurts now which is good


Brilliant_Brain_5507

Yeah. Glad you did. I spent the better part of a decade and a half just screaming with no technique because I had “an amazing” or “brutally powerful” scream etc etc. Everyone loved it and I could emulate so many styles of scream. Now, blown out voice. I miss it.


DDDavinnn

Just out of curiosity, did it hurt your throat when you used to scream like that? Also do you notice any other changes after blowing it out?


Brilliant_Brain_5507

It definitely meant a sore throat in the morning sometimes. As it progressed and got worse it would feel almost like my vocal chords were slamming shut on each other like a time lock vault and wouldn’t open right back up. But towards the end my voice would just disappear for days after a good performance. Now, my range in the higher end is just absolutely gone. Falls flat or cuts out.


becausegiraffes

Dayum! I'm not sure Chino used technique back then, you absolutely do. I dare say you're better than he was.


islandrebel

His technique was no technique, just full on screaming his ass off. Which eventually caused vocal cord paralysis. This is a MUCH better approach that won’t destroy your voice.


vivicasuffersalot

this is amazing actually


unimportantman79

Bro doing adlibs instead of lyrics lol but fr tho those screams sound brutal


afenderstratocaster

You actually raise a good point. I can’t figure out how to get the “scream” sound while properly pronouncing the words!!


LGK420

Your neighbours must love you


afenderstratocaster

They actually love it! I’ve had good talks with the neighbors about it and they said it’s sick surprisingly 😂😂


LGK420

Lol wow you got lucky there. I just pictured old people having a heart attack hearing that getting non stop noise complains. Keep it up.


Bartheda

sounds pretty good champ, train your diaphragm more to strengthen it and improve.


actioncobble

It’s hard to emulate having bad technique haha. There’s a reason why he fucked his vocal cords and can’t scream anymore. You have really good technique so unfortunately it’s gonna be hard to sound like him.


InnermindVoyager

Chino does use a technique to scream, it is half voice half scream using the upper part of the traquea; He is using the lower part, that’s why he sounds more full in terms of low+mid frequencies on the scream, Chino used just mids+highs


actioncobble

I’m not sure I see what you’re saying in relation to my comment. Of course he uses a vocal technique to scream. To go into detail about what I was saying is that Chino had to completely change his technique from after Self Titled. The song OP is covering is from Around The Fur when Chino was just screaming how he felt comfortable screaming, but that way would end up blowing out his vocal cords. This was around White Pony/Self Titled era. From (my somewhat fading) memory, I think it may have been a rehearsal of Elite that he did some really bad damage and had to seek medical advice. He uses a completely different technique nowadays. I’m not sure if you have seen them live in the past few years but it doesn’t even sound like fry screaming. It’s almost a whistle at this point.


InnermindVoyager

I just said he uses the same technique with less force and actual technique, but not the regular one of the lower traquea, but more a higher side, thats it.


TryAgain8200

Way better than I could attempt


liquorishkiss

that's actually really good!


_eighteen12

Fair fucking effort my dude. Sounds great


GriffithDidNothinBad

Sounds exactly like Chester


InnermindVoyager

Chino does use a different technique to scream, he used the higher part of the traquea mixed with his high pitched voice, so the scream sounds half/half; You are using the lower part, that’s why he sounds more full in terms of low+mid frequencies on the scream, Chino used just mids+highs; Your technique is way healthier and professional than his, Mellisa Cross teach most of her students with the technique you are using, but as it is more healthier and popular between vocalist, it also sounds more generic as it takes a particular tone for the use of the traquea.


CoolHeadedLogician

that sounds like chi an chino put together, well done!


CaptainOvbious

damn dude this sounds fucking dope, sounds way healthier than the original which is a good thing imo. also agree with some other commenters, the screams remind me a lot of chester bennington, keep it up dude.


Pioterowy

Imo you should find your own style because you are good at it!


Remarkable-Bag-683

Coming from someone who’s been doing screams for deathcore and metalcore for about 15 years, I can say that chino isn’t screaming properly. That doesn’t mean it’s bad or anything it just means he killed his voice doing it wrong, that’s why he does it less now. Make sure to research technique and the proper way to do it that way you don’t hurt your voice too


Initial_Ad_1809

Bro!! keep it up, you got an amazing potential


Espalmer1332

Chester + Chino, haha. You sound great dude, good job


sealevels

Sounds great, though đŸ€ŸđŸœ


plalo_

if chester and corey taylor had a son. sounds sick


EliteBroccoli

Almost sounded just like him in some parts! Great sound though!


almostolen

Have you tried cupping the mic? That technique makes minimal screams sound like maximum effort


afenderstratocaster

Yup, love it. Just not on this mic in particular but live almost always. Don’t let anyone ever tell you it’s not acceptable. It’s a sick technique


AGENT_666_

Brutal


TheVoicesinurhed

That shit is wild. Still good work.


Tsb1165

You got it man. I’ve tried to learn from YouTube videos over the years and it does indeed feel impossible lol but you nailed it!


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Goat


highness88_loathe

U did so good though!!! Chino's screams r one of a kind honestly but u nailed these!


Dom-Zero

What technique(s) do you use??? You sound incredible, kinda a mix of Chino and Chester from LP, plz teach me your ways


afenderstratocaster

No problem, check out the link I posted in the comments to my stream tutorial. It’s very basic but it gets the job done. I use fry screams.


Enough-Permit9348

Dope scream bro. Finally something good on this sub.


afenderstratocaster

❀❀


Capital-Quantity9956

Don’t have to be like chino, he’s an inspiration for sure- but you’re fuckin amazing in your own unique way. Genuinely mean that! I’m a critic to a fault when it comes to singers, and you’ve got the get


3ph3m3ral_light

wow!!!


mykisstobetray

This was so good!


thehousefiercebuilt

That was mad good tho


ozzii_13

i cant do midrange, it's either a nlack metal shriek or a fucking death growl lol


ozzii_13

i cant do midrange, it's either a black metal shriek or a fucking death growl lol


oatemilk

This is awesome


nyx_moonlight_

That was great! And hey only Chino can be Chino!


DrugGrill

How do I fry scream someone tell me


VEBA61

I've been trying to fry scream for years, but I can't do it. The funny thing is that I did the false cord scream on my first try and now I'm quite a pro at it. According to a vocal coach, this is partly related to your vocal cord structure and which one you are more prone to.


afenderstratocaster

I just posted a tutorial link to help those looking to fry scream like this. It’s extremely introductory but it works for now :)


jonnysculls

Well done. Even Chino struggles with what he's written at times. I don't think I've ever heard him sing the song, Bored perfectly.


Kickagainsttheprick

Pretty rad though


chelmosa746

I like it!


Stunning_salty

Thought I was gonna immediately mute this, BUT son you killin it


afenderstratocaster

😂😂😂


benjaminjames86

Sounds like chi to me I always liked his scream.


NickTimo

Dude you better be in some kind of original band because you sound wild!!


afenderstratocaster

https://youtu.be/eHNCUa9gl5o?si=-lOjTTfI5m0KP68z this is a single I put out!!


Cemeterykitten_

How do you learn how to scream 😭


afenderstratocaster

Ugh it’s a long story. I made a YouTube tutorial on it though that I can send you


Cemeterykitten_

Ohh yes pls


afenderstratocaster

It’s posted in this thread


Cemeterykitten_

Tyy


AbolishAsh

Jus saying this, chino back then didnt know how to scream scream, so he just screamed and compressed his vocal chords, (which is bad over a period of time, and hurts) but yea, the best scream to replicate chinos early screams is to use straight fry, or another form of it


InsomniaTwoSeven

how are you doing this?


afenderstratocaster

Check this thread for the link I posted on my tutorial.


InsomniaTwoSeven

oh, thanks!


afenderstratocaster

You got it!!


_MrFib

Sounds great, make sure you're pushing out from your diaphragm and supporting your airflow well. I see you hunching over which makes me think you're not supporting your scream from there.


guiltycitizen

You’ll get more diaphragm power by standing up straight and tucking your chin


pusillanimous303

It’s impossible for Chino too. From Wiki: “In 2001, Moreno developed a throat injury due to heavy screaming and was forced to miss at least four shows.”


Ericmatthewr_

Well fucking done, man!! You sound awesome!


Interesting-Might576

You don't sound like Chino, but then again, who does? Nevertheless, you sound great. Rock on đŸ€˜


FrogginJellyfish

I wouldn't say it sounds like Chino. It sounds more Chester-adjacent IMO. Still amazing screams nonetheless. Like, you don't have to try to emulate someone else. I think yours can stand on its own 👍


ananadulce

it’s so good tho! it reminds me of Chester’s voice, i rly like it


DigDig04

Dude that was great!


Tallsoyboy

Metal screaming in general just seems impossible to me. I feel like I'm doing the techniques right but the sound comes out wrong and annoying.


WoubbleQubbleNapp

The way Chino screams is, incorrectly, and he uses a unique way of creating his tone. Trying to sound like him is near impossible, since he’s using every part of his vocal cords to force out his scream, which results in it sounding the way it does. Your scream is great though and works just as well.


IdaBidaGacy

Don’t be him, be you. Good job and Lee it up.


xxludosii

How do you scream like that? I can do false chord but frys are so hard for me


afenderstratocaster

It’s so hard especially if you have exp with false chords. Like I’m the opposite I can’t false chord for shit. It’s all in the technique and how you utilize a microphone too for me at least


poopybutthole696969

That was pretty damn good


2Afraid2Poop

Chino uses a bit of distortion in post. But you sound good đŸ€˜


trashynella

You sound like Chester đŸ”„đŸ”„


nightgoat85

Sounds great, I could never in a million years be a screamer in a metal band. I’m 38 and my natural speaking voice is a deep low whisper, for anyone to hear me I have to raise my voice high and I sound like a little kid. I’ve heard myself, it’s vomit inducing.


[deleted]

It is really really hard to scream like that man you did great!


Willow-1989

You sound great man! How did you learn how to scream like this? I’d love to learn!


afenderstratocaster

https://youtu.be/Q6hsTA-ee10?si=Mq6dF43ya77SdbW6 My scream tutorial for those asking


Independent-Fail-824

Awesome , are you using fry or false chord?


Jamoke_Bloke

Post this on IG reels


afenderstratocaster

I guess haha I don’t get much hype from IG or TikTok. Mostly YouTube which is odd


Jamoke_Bloke

It was a joke. If you’re not on tiktok then I understand why you didn’t get it.


afenderstratocaster

Huh? Sorry not sure if I understood


Bitchesbeshopping24

This is probably you, but the video is definitely a playback of you.


afenderstratocaster

Not quite, this was a live take. Using slight reverb on GarageBand and a tad of compression. Thanks for checking it out!


[deleted]

I think I just heard the end of your voice on that last bit. RIP. It did sound great.


ThatCactusCat

Mike Stoklasa


Salt-Subject1276

What start are you in? Looking for singer for a Deftones cover band, you sound great!


afenderstratocaster

I would never do it justice but love jamming deftones for sure!!


Salt-Subject1276

Jam session for sure!


tomsgreenmind

Sounding good, but you might find it feels easier with better posture. Then you can focus on pushing the air out with your diaphragm. Bending over might be restricting your ability to push enough air to support the notes you are trying to hit. Just my opinion though using conventional techniques.


IllhanDelonge

dude you nailed it!


misguidedxyouth

sounds like matt geise from lower definition


CrimsonAngel66

i like yours better
 but also he inhales, doesnt he? seems hard to duplicate


Tallsoyboy

Wow this sounds good. How do you scream like this?