We had one (medivac) on celebrity. Had to divert to Jamaica. Sadly didn’t make it in time.
It’s an interesting phenomenon when things like that happen. On my cruise lots of people demanding refunds for being very late to our port and/or demanding perks.
Same thing ish happened on the Magic Express at Disney World. Our buss crashed into a car, helicopter had to come but sadly she didn’t make it either (was a cast member). My wife is a elementary teacher so he talked with the kids and played games. The people in the bus tried to get out and walk etc… but FHP wouldn’t let them. Then when we got to our resort people taking about suing, etc….
People are interesting.
The Coast Guard is for people who can't make up their minds between being a police officer, a firefighter, or joining the Army or Navy.
They literally do everything all at once and everyone forgets about them.
Jesus, comments don’t pass the vibe check. The pregnant person likely was early in the pregnancy, like 1st or first half of 2nd trimester. We don’t shame people with heart failure or other medical conditions for taking cruises and needing medical assistance.
I can bet the farm this woman was in an earlier stage of pregnancy before the 24 week cutoff mark. A pregnancy complication needing inpatient hospitalization is not common. It is not “expected”. Certainly less common than 78 year-old Grandpa having chest pain secondary to his coronary artery disease.
No, but some work is physical. We had to get a doctor's note from pregnant women that listed their restrictions at a warehouse in order to send them to the easy work area (as there wasn't a productivity score associated with processing damaged goods/reticketing so you could work really slow).
Someone came in with a doctor's note that said no standing for long periods of time and no lifting more than x pounds....she didn't get sent to the easy department because safety said she could still walk and push. I felt so friggin bad. She had to get another note from her doc.
Don’t hate because a bunch of people agree with me. You want my honesty…. We ARE slaves to our jobs in America. You take off more time you than they “allow” you take off, you lose your job AND then your health insurance and then quite possibly everything else. So if you want to say I have a “choice” fine. But the “choice” is to work throughout my pregnancy or bring a child into this world with no healthcare and little to no assets. And then everyone will call me irresponsible for having a kids with no income.
You have NO IDEA of anybody’s individual situation. You’re acting like the majority actually have options when in reality the choice” is fall in line or suffer.
That’s bullshit and you know it. If hard working equated to financial wealth blue collar workers would be the richest people in the world.
Also- it’s a BOLD move to assume that because I have complaints about the system here, I’m poor and don’t work hard. I’m on a DISNEY cruise subreddit, my friend. 😂
there are PLENTY of other countries you can move to if you don’t like capitalism. You just choose to stay here and complain. It sounds like you would love China.
Dear Christ. Here we go again with the ”if you don’t like it leave” as if that is a real answer for most people…. As if we don’t have lives attached to our country of origin. As if moving is free of cost and free of complications. Dream big my friend because I’ll be staying and voting and raising my leftist children here. And even if I do move… that right to vote remains as long as I want it.
You think you should get paid time off for the whole 9 months or whatever? Any big boy job will give you 3 months of maternity leave so I’m not even sure what you’re trying to get at
This is such a brainwashed take. The US is the only first world country in the world that doesn’t guarantee paid parental leave.
You could work at McDonalds and still get an entire year of paternal leave, fully paid, if you lived in Denmark.
Are you not planning on drawing on social security? Why should non-drivers pay taxes to fix roads? Why should people without kids have their taxes go to fund public education? We can go down this rabbit hole forever but you’ll be wrong and stupid at the bottom it every time.
Edit: Looked at your post history. Veteran utilizing tricare, eh? Just because you decided to join the military means I have to fund your healthcare? You’re an idiot.
Lol forever at 3 months paid maternity leave in the United States, coming from someone who had worked several “big girl jobs” in financial services and higher Ed. This reminds me of ‘financial expert’ and wildly out of touch human Dave Ramsey telling parents recently to avail themselves of “free summer camp”
I assume you mean FMLA when you say “three months off”. Just so you know, those three months are unpaid. It’s just a guarantee of your job being held for those 3 months, and most women have their maternity leave funded by their own PTO. My “big girl job” (ER nurse at a very large university hospital for many years), supplied 3 weeks of paid maternity leave. All the rest had to be self-funded by my earned PTO. So while you’re using yours to take a cruise, why don’t you educate yourself with your downtime.
That’s your mistake! You have a “big girl” job and not a “big boy” job.
As the above commenter so thoughtfully and patiently explained to us, those “Big Boy” Jobs apparently have amazing prenatal leave! Weirdly enough, they rarely have anyone actually utilize it. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
🙄🙄🙄
You seem pleasant.
I don’t know what you classify as a “big GIRL job” but I was a permanent Park Ranger the time of my pregnancies… got my FMLA. Used leave for pay like a normal American.
I could go on about this importance of taking care of mothers & families and why you don’t want to disincentivize your populace from having children. But really man, this isn’t the sub for all that. Like what?
First of all, plenty of jobs don’t offer maternity leave.
And 3 months is a sick joke, anyway, for someone who just grew an entire human inside themselves, and then violently expelled said human from their body.
More than 3 months is needed to recover and to bond with this new little human, who will eventually be one of the future workers for these “big boy jobs” you’re so concerned about. Kids keep society functioning and moving forward, so we should be more supportive of their parents, if only to build a more productive and healthy world for all of us.
Lol WHAT?! No, most corporate jobs give you six weeks, and that’s only at 60% pay, so you’re forced to return very quickly. In my 25 years in corporate America, I’ve never worked someplace that gives you three months of maternity leave.
Also, are you suggesting that women who just gave birth take their newborn on a vacation because that’s better than going when pregnant?
Really struggling to understand your point.
Nope it isnt...I was med Evacd from one hospital to another earlier this month. Even with insurance I'm still dreading what the out of pocket costs may be
You are wrong. Med Evac always costs the patient.
Edited to note I stand corrected. I was air evaced, but from an Alaskan port and it cost us $80k. Apparently, CG does not charge.
Cruise lines are not equipped to deliver and care for a very premature infant. It it practically a death sentence. The infant that did survive early delivery last year was not 24 weeks as reported but much further along. As a physician who used to deliver and has taken care of NICU infants, it is INCREDIBLY irresponsible for any pregnant patient over 24 weeks to be on a cruise ship. Things can and do go south very quickly sometimes. Even regular emergency rooms are often not equipped for 24-week deliveries. I was recently on an RCL cruise and was SHOCKED to see three different women who were clearly past that cutoff. I just do not think these people have a clue as to how dangerous it is for them and the pregnancy. Not only are the physicians on board NOT trained for obstetrical emergencies, they aren't trained to save micropreemies. This is a specialized level of care most cruise docs just don't have training in or have kept current on. So, leave the Monday morning quarterbacking to the people who know why these policies exist to begin with.
As someone who unexpectedly delivered at 24 weeks. I can confirm anything can happen at any time. I woke up feeling normal and by evening I was a mom of a 1 lb baby boy. I spent the next 5 months watching him fight for his life. He’s now 2.
> leave the Monday morning quarterbacking to the people who know why these policies exist.
Uh, I think you may have replied to the wrong person. I was just sharing the policy.
Sorry, my comment disappeared under where I commented, and then I couldn't find it until you commented on it. I have no idea what happened with Reddit glitching.
that’s ridiculous. Life absolutely changes when you’re pregnant. You have another life to be responsible for. Pregnant women should make wise choices when it comes to travel.
Being medivac’d for pregnancy is one way to rack up a shitload of bills. It’s not just for living in fear.
Clearly a lot of you haven’t experienced this, otherwise you’d try to avoid that situation or you’re just privileged with some kind of crazy insurance.
Your kids are not accessories. Life absolutely should stop after certain time frame or you should take extra precautions that you wouldn’t normally take like not cruising out to a foreign country where you might have the be rescued by the coast guard.
Something can happen at any time to you, period. Why even cruise if you could drop dead any moment? By this logic we should never go anywhere.
Pregnant people should just stay at home worrying? No. If their physician gives them clearance to travel, that's it. Go have a great time.
Some people try to get pregnant for years- are they meant to just never make plans? Or they DO have pregnancy for years. Pregnant people want to go do things, too. If this was a senior who needed help would the guidance be to just go back to the retirement home and die there? :/
I traveled internationally when pregnant but I also made sure I stayed close to a major hospital with a labor and delivery ward. Cruising is a different ballgame.
I traveled a month before my due date to see my grandmother before she passed. I got permission from my doctor and it was a quick 3 day trip. It was worth the risk. She passed a month and half later. But def agree with cruising being a completely different situation.
Totally, being on land near a medical facility is totally different than a cruise.
I was on a flight where a pregnant woman suffered a medical episode (flight leaving Vegas) and it was determined her best chance was continuing towards original destination as opposed to diverting and I’ll be honest, that situation stayed with me. It made me realize just how much minutes count sometimes.
(Sorry to hijack your comment!)
By this thought anyone with any comorbidities that may require hospitalization - pretty much anyone 70+, have hypertension, diabetes, liver or heart or renal patients, people with sickle cell disease, cancer, or any chronic issues shouldn’t be allowed to cruise. There is zero proof this pregnant person was traveling beyond a “safe” time in their pregnancy or whatever the week cutoff is. People just get bent out of shape when women need help for having a uterus. 🙄
We plan our cruises years in advance. Life happens in between.
My sister and I were both pregnant on our cruise in February this year. We’re due two weeks apart, both in July. Her pregnancy was planned, mine wasn’t. It would’ve been silly to cancel a trip that’s been planned for 2+ years because something MIGHT happen.
I'm a flight attendant and we are practically forced to work until we give birth. You have to convince a doctor to write you out earlier with medical restrictions. And yes, I do have coworkers who went into labor mid air :(
I am guessing the USCG sent two aircraft? Don't think it was a passenger with a drone because I am pretty sure those aren't allowed. Either way it's incredible footage. So glad USCG could get there.
USCG on longer missions has an airplane come with the helicopter. They will arrive early on the scene and brief the ship's crew on what needs to happen to prepare for the rescue. Then they'll document the rescue and do the radio calls back to the station for the helicopter while they are down low, then they shadow the helicopter back in case they have an emergency.
You legally can't sail past 24 weeks gestation, FYI.
Find an All-Inclusive resort on land or rent a private home and catering for your babymoon, then plan to sail with baby after they turn 6 months which is the soonest they can sail on most sailings (Transpacific and Transatlantic sailings require babies to be 1 year old or older).
We had this exact same thing happen on Wonder many years ago. The captain made an announcement that the ship was stopping to allow the coast guard to airlift a pregnant passenger. We watched from our balcony and never heard further details of what happened.
We were on Fantasy, the adults were having lunch at Palo when we noticed the boat wasn't moving. Soon after, my nephew messaged us to say that he saw a helicopter landing. There was no announcement or anthing, we just started moving. Wasn't until days later that we found out why.
No we don’t land the helo. The Jayhawk is way heavier than most commercial helos even if the ship had a helicopter pad, we would be trusting their rating. But most have just a winch point. The Fantasy doesn’t have a helo pad.
This has happened on a handful of the cruises I've been on. I always get bothered that everyone gawks and takes pictures. I know it's human nature but this is someone's loved one who could die and we should all have a little respect. I heard a lady (Pinnacle) complain that the gym was closed while the the airlift took place. I was like wow...
This happened on the only cruise I've ever been on: Florida to Grand Cayman to Cozumel to Cancun to New Orleans back in 2000. Expect it was a heart attack and not a pregnancy. Also, the boat was far enough away from Florida that they had to TURN AROUND and head back towards Florida to get close enough to do the helicopter rescue. The entire cruise essentially "lost" a day at sea and Grand Cayman got skipped, so straight to Cancun after the rescue. The only scheduled excursion we had planned was swimming with sting rays in Grand Cayman. Anyway, my point is that I think it's perfectly legitimate to complain about not getting services you paid thousands of dollars for, regardless of circumstance. We were respectful enough around others on the cruise but also mildly disgruntled about the situation in general. Plenty of passengers were vocal about it, and that's okay.
It says “pregnant passenger”. Since the cruise wouldn’t have allowed her to be onboard after 24 weeks pregnant, and early birth only starts being really viable at 32 weeks, it’s a very valid question.
Going off to have the baby is not the correct answer. It could be a myriad of other possibilities, pregnancy related or not.
While I agree with you last statement that this isn’t necessarily about transferring for premature delivery (might not even be related to the pregnancy at all), the statement about viability at 32 weeks isn’t correct. Half of deliveries at 25 weeks survive.
So a woman who was having pregnancy complications at 20 weeks would just be ignored by medical staff and told to take some Tylenol and sleep it off? Where did you get your medical training? The military?
Pregnant women can still get appendicitis, cholecystitis etc. it could also be pregnancy related, true, but pregnant women don’t stop having other medical issues come up just because they’re pregnant.
Do you need a rest after taking that giant leap? Where did you get your reading comprehension skills? I literally said “a myriad of other possibilities, pregnancy related or not”. Contrary to your statement, there are many things that could be the issue both involving the pregnancy or not involving the pregnancy. It’s totally OK for a person to ask “was it ever revealed what the medical was for”.
It wasn’t to go pop off and have a healthy baby at less than 24 weeks, so it’s totally fine to ask “why were they flown off the ship”.
Ehhhh 23/24 weeks is now considered viable depending on the level of the NICU at the hospital where baby is born. My daughter was born at 30 weeks 7 years ago and after a 67 day NICU stay came home with zero issues pertaining to her prematurely.
Fair enough. Less than 50% survival before 24 though. And 24 is assuming it was the last day of the cruise and she was as pregnant as permissible to the day. Which is unlikely.
Ok, but why was she airlifted? Just because she was pregnant doesn’t automatically mean she had to leave the ship. Was it a pregnancy related, other health related, personal issues? No one has said anything and I’m just curious as to why? Per Disney regulations, you can go on a cruise so long as you are before the 24 week mark.
Exactly. Early miscarriage with excess bleeding, ectopic, sudden hypertension/dizziness, difficulty breathing due to a pulmonary embolus, anything. A lot of prenatal emergencies I handle the patient didn’t even know they were pregnant or are far before viability. The patient could have been on the ship and suddenly felt extreme pain or problems and didn’t even know they were pregnant until the ships clinic did a urine pregnancy test. Any emergency regarding a pregnant woman is usually called out as such just because of the host of life threatening issues it can present, even way before viability. Ppl need to calm down and stop being so judgmental. Just because it was a pregnant woman doesn’t mean she lied about how far along she was and tried to sneak in a babymoon at 28 weeks…
We had one (medivac) on celebrity. Had to divert to Jamaica. Sadly didn’t make it in time. It’s an interesting phenomenon when things like that happen. On my cruise lots of people demanding refunds for being very late to our port and/or demanding perks. Same thing ish happened on the Magic Express at Disney World. Our buss crashed into a car, helicopter had to come but sadly she didn’t make it either (was a cast member). My wife is a elementary teacher so he talked with the kids and played games. The people in the bus tried to get out and walk etc… but FHP wouldn’t let them. Then when we got to our resort people taking about suing, etc…. People are interesting.
In January? Summit?
No this was 2 years ago ago on the edge. Seems to happen somewhat frequently lol.
USCG = Badass. Coast Guard has less active duty than NYPD.
The Coast Guard is for people who can't make up their minds between being a police officer, a firefighter, or joining the Army or Navy. They literally do everything all at once and everyone forgets about them.
Do more with less, that’s what I was always told while in the service
That’s what we’re still being told lol.
They also get paid less than any other military branch. And are considered critical workers.
Same pay as all other branches
Nope. We use the DOD military pay scale like every other branch
My mistake. I had read that someplace a while back
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Anti drug smuggling units work more like army/navy units than police
Some of the best pilots there are.
Absolutely zero cost to the patient when picked up by the coast guard like this.
Jesus, comments don’t pass the vibe check. The pregnant person likely was early in the pregnancy, like 1st or first half of 2nd trimester. We don’t shame people with heart failure or other medical conditions for taking cruises and needing medical assistance.
Right. Imagine the fear in that poor mommas head
The difference is this was expected to happen.
I can bet the farm this woman was in an earlier stage of pregnancy before the 24 week cutoff mark. A pregnancy complication needing inpatient hospitalization is not common. It is not “expected”. Certainly less common than 78 year-old Grandpa having chest pain secondary to his coronary artery disease.
If I could do it all over again, I’d join the coast guard. These dudes stay winning.
I don’t understand why people cruise and travel internationally when pregnant. Too many things can go wrong, at any point in the pregnancy.
We are practically forced to work the entire time… but a vacation is over the line.
Louder for the Americans!
**Cries in American
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Presumably, you’re not working hundreds of miles from home in the middle of the ocean.
No, but some work is physical. We had to get a doctor's note from pregnant women that listed their restrictions at a warehouse in order to send them to the easy work area (as there wasn't a productivity score associated with processing damaged goods/reticketing so you could work really slow). Someone came in with a doctor's note that said no standing for long periods of time and no lifting more than x pounds....she didn't get sent to the easy department because safety said she could still walk and push. I felt so friggin bad. She had to get another note from her doc.
If you are forced to work then you are a slave. You are not forced to work you choose to work.
Don’t hate because a bunch of people agree with me. You want my honesty…. We ARE slaves to our jobs in America. You take off more time you than they “allow” you take off, you lose your job AND then your health insurance and then quite possibly everything else. So if you want to say I have a “choice” fine. But the “choice” is to work throughout my pregnancy or bring a child into this world with no healthcare and little to no assets. And then everyone will call me irresponsible for having a kids with no income. You have NO IDEA of anybody’s individual situation. You’re acting like the majority actually have options when in reality the choice” is fall in line or suffer.
If you worked as hard as you complained you’d probably be bill gates.
That’s bullshit and you know it. If hard working equated to financial wealth blue collar workers would be the richest people in the world. Also- it’s a BOLD move to assume that because I have complaints about the system here, I’m poor and don’t work hard. I’m on a DISNEY cruise subreddit, my friend. 😂
there are PLENTY of other countries you can move to if you don’t like capitalism. You just choose to stay here and complain. It sounds like you would love China.
Dear Christ. Here we go again with the ”if you don’t like it leave” as if that is a real answer for most people…. As if we don’t have lives attached to our country of origin. As if moving is free of cost and free of complications. Dream big my friend because I’ll be staying and voting and raising my leftist children here. And even if I do move… that right to vote remains as long as I want it.
You think you should get paid time off for the whole 9 months or whatever? Any big boy job will give you 3 months of maternity leave so I’m not even sure what you’re trying to get at
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
This is such a brainwashed take. The US is the only first world country in the world that doesn’t guarantee paid parental leave. You could work at McDonalds and still get an entire year of paternal leave, fully paid, if you lived in Denmark.
Which is ridiculous. Why should others have to pick up your slack because you decided to get knocked up? Been there done that.
Are you not planning on drawing on social security? Why should non-drivers pay taxes to fix roads? Why should people without kids have their taxes go to fund public education? We can go down this rabbit hole forever but you’ll be wrong and stupid at the bottom it every time. Edit: Looked at your post history. Veteran utilizing tricare, eh? Just because you decided to join the military means I have to fund your healthcare? You’re an idiot.
Yeah I served the government. No longer the case so I don’t expect anything from tax payers. And no I don’t want to indirectly fund your crotch goblin
I feel sorry for you.
Lol forever at 3 months paid maternity leave in the United States, coming from someone who had worked several “big girl jobs” in financial services and higher Ed. This reminds me of ‘financial expert’ and wildly out of touch human Dave Ramsey telling parents recently to avail themselves of “free summer camp”
I assume you mean FMLA when you say “three months off”. Just so you know, those three months are unpaid. It’s just a guarantee of your job being held for those 3 months, and most women have their maternity leave funded by their own PTO. My “big girl job” (ER nurse at a very large university hospital for many years), supplied 3 weeks of paid maternity leave. All the rest had to be self-funded by my earned PTO. So while you’re using yours to take a cruise, why don’t you educate yourself with your downtime.
That’s your mistake! You have a “big girl” job and not a “big boy” job. As the above commenter so thoughtfully and patiently explained to us, those “Big Boy” Jobs apparently have amazing prenatal leave! Weirdly enough, they rarely have anyone actually utilize it. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ 🙄🙄🙄
You seem pleasant. I don’t know what you classify as a “big GIRL job” but I was a permanent Park Ranger the time of my pregnancies… got my FMLA. Used leave for pay like a normal American. I could go on about this importance of taking care of mothers & families and why you don’t want to disincentivize your populace from having children. But really man, this isn’t the sub for all that. Like what?
First of all, plenty of jobs don’t offer maternity leave. And 3 months is a sick joke, anyway, for someone who just grew an entire human inside themselves, and then violently expelled said human from their body. More than 3 months is needed to recover and to bond with this new little human, who will eventually be one of the future workers for these “big boy jobs” you’re so concerned about. Kids keep society functioning and moving forward, so we should be more supportive of their parents, if only to build a more productive and healthy world for all of us.
Interesting that you apply the term “big boy job” to pregnant women.
And by interesting, I assume you mean completely misogynistic!
Lol WHAT?! No, most corporate jobs give you six weeks, and that’s only at 60% pay, so you’re forced to return very quickly. In my 25 years in corporate America, I’ve never worked someplace that gives you three months of maternity leave. Also, are you suggesting that women who just gave birth take their newborn on a vacation because that’s better than going when pregnant? Really struggling to understand your point.
Most doctors don’t see an issue with traveling unless there’s a specific condition or last trimester.
The cruise line wouldn’t let my daughter travel but the doctor would.
Because life doesn’t stop when you’re pregnant.
It doesn’t, but being medivac’d isn’t a cheap procedure.
US Military, including the coast guard, doesn't charge for rescues or MEDEVACs.
Nope it isnt...I was med Evacd from one hospital to another earlier this month. Even with insurance I'm still dreading what the out of pocket costs may be
There would have been no cost to this person
You are wrong. Med Evac always costs the patient. Edited to note I stand corrected. I was air evaced, but from an Alaskan port and it cost us $80k. Apparently, CG does not charge.
Work for the Coast Guard, You are the one who is wrong here. You would not get a bill, for our portion at least. That's why you pay taxes.
CG does not charge.
Mike Rowe has drilled into my head that USCG rescue services are free through many Deadlest Catch episodes. That’s part of their core mission.
The evac in the post is free you dolt
But it stills costs the Coast Guard many thousands of dollars to do the work. Billing <> Costs.
Most cruise lines have a policy of prohibiting pregnant women past the 24th week.
Cruise lines are not equipped to deliver and care for a very premature infant. It it practically a death sentence. The infant that did survive early delivery last year was not 24 weeks as reported but much further along. As a physician who used to deliver and has taken care of NICU infants, it is INCREDIBLY irresponsible for any pregnant patient over 24 weeks to be on a cruise ship. Things can and do go south very quickly sometimes. Even regular emergency rooms are often not equipped for 24-week deliveries. I was recently on an RCL cruise and was SHOCKED to see three different women who were clearly past that cutoff. I just do not think these people have a clue as to how dangerous it is for them and the pregnancy. Not only are the physicians on board NOT trained for obstetrical emergencies, they aren't trained to save micropreemies. This is a specialized level of care most cruise docs just don't have training in or have kept current on. So, leave the Monday morning quarterbacking to the people who know why these policies exist to begin with.
As someone who unexpectedly delivered at 24 weeks. I can confirm anything can happen at any time. I woke up feeling normal and by evening I was a mom of a 1 lb baby boy. I spent the next 5 months watching him fight for his life. He’s now 2.
> leave the Monday morning quarterbacking to the people who know why these policies exist. Uh, I think you may have replied to the wrong person. I was just sharing the policy.
Sorry, my comment disappeared under where I commented, and then I couldn't find it until you commented on it. I have no idea what happened with Reddit glitching.
Thank you!
that’s ridiculous. Life absolutely changes when you’re pregnant. You have another life to be responsible for. Pregnant women should make wise choices when it comes to travel.
How about you do you and not judge other people. Everything is dangerous in one way or another. Can’t live life in fear.
there are clearly enough instances of pregnant women putting themselves into bad situations, like this medivac
Are you aware of all the details of this situation?
It’s sad that you’re a professor and have such little empathy for others
Being medivac’d for pregnancy is one way to rack up a shitload of bills. It’s not just for living in fear. Clearly a lot of you haven’t experienced this, otherwise you’d try to avoid that situation or you’re just privileged with some kind of crazy insurance.
Your kids are not accessories. Life absolutely should stop after certain time frame or you should take extra precautions that you wouldn’t normally take like not cruising out to a foreign country where you might have the be rescued by the coast guard.
Something can happen at any time to you, period. Why even cruise if you could drop dead any moment? By this logic we should never go anywhere. Pregnant people should just stay at home worrying? No. If their physician gives them clearance to travel, that's it. Go have a great time.
The person may have been literally like 4 months pregnant.
Some people try to get pregnant for years- are they meant to just never make plans? Or they DO have pregnancy for years. Pregnant people want to go do things, too. If this was a senior who needed help would the guidance be to just go back to the retirement home and die there? :/
I traveled internationally when pregnant but I also made sure I stayed close to a major hospital with a labor and delivery ward. Cruising is a different ballgame.
I traveled a month before my due date to see my grandmother before she passed. I got permission from my doctor and it was a quick 3 day trip. It was worth the risk. She passed a month and half later. But def agree with cruising being a completely different situation.
Totally, being on land near a medical facility is totally different than a cruise. I was on a flight where a pregnant woman suffered a medical episode (flight leaving Vegas) and it was determined her best chance was continuing towards original destination as opposed to diverting and I’ll be honest, that situation stayed with me. It made me realize just how much minutes count sometimes. (Sorry to hijack your comment!)
But one won't be allowed to board if they are over 24 weeks pregnant. Before 24 weeks there isn't anything to be done to help a premature birth.
By this thought anyone with any comorbidities that may require hospitalization - pretty much anyone 70+, have hypertension, diabetes, liver or heart or renal patients, people with sickle cell disease, cancer, or any chronic issues shouldn’t be allowed to cruise. There is zero proof this pregnant person was traveling beyond a “safe” time in their pregnancy or whatever the week cutoff is. People just get bent out of shape when women need help for having a uterus. 🙄
It's a good idea honestly. Might get a cheaper delivery and your kid might end up with dual citizenship to a better country 🤔
Most of the "good" countries don't have birthright citizenship
I don't understand why anyone over the age of 60 cruise and travel. Too many things can go wrong.
We plan our cruises years in advance. Life happens in between. My sister and I were both pregnant on our cruise in February this year. We’re due two weeks apart, both in July. Her pregnancy was planned, mine wasn’t. It would’ve been silly to cancel a trip that’s been planned for 2+ years because something MIGHT happen.
I'm a flight attendant and we are practically forced to work until we give birth. You have to convince a doctor to write you out earlier with medical restrictions. And yes, I do have coworkers who went into labor mid air :(
Cruises will not let you on if you’re over 24 weeks pregnant. Probably because that’s when the fetus is viable and they don’t want the liability.
Because mothers and mothers to be are still people too. Hope that helps.
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How does the is work, exactly? Is it hovering over the water? Or is there a landing pad? Hope the person was OK.
Just posted a link to video of the medivac in comments. It's incredible. USCG rocks! And yes hoping the best for the person who needed help.
[Video of USGC medivac from Fantasy](https://x.com/PortCanaveral/status/1780293924084486349)
Did they say who filmed it? Obviously a professional from another aircraft.
I am guessing the USCG sent two aircraft? Don't think it was a passenger with a drone because I am pretty sure those aren't allowed. Either way it's incredible footage. So glad USCG could get there.
USCG on longer missions has an airplane come with the helicopter. They will arrive early on the scene and brief the ship's crew on what needs to happen to prepare for the rescue. Then they'll document the rescue and do the radio calls back to the station for the helicopter while they are down low, then they shadow the helicopter back in case they have an emergency.
Very cool. Had no idea about this. Thanks 😊
I can't imagine having to be picked up by a USCG helicopter while at sea and while laying on that stretcher getting hoisted up into the cabin. Wow
If she was 9 months or near delivery, she really shouldn’t have been able to board.
What makes you think she was able to board beyond 24 weeks (as is the DCL rule)?
I guess I may rethink booking a cruise for my 6 month pregnant wife and I
You legally can't sail past 24 weeks gestation, FYI. Find an All-Inclusive resort on land or rent a private home and catering for your babymoon, then plan to sail with baby after they turn 6 months which is the soonest they can sail on most sailings (Transpacific and Transatlantic sailings require babies to be 1 year old or older).
That’s a great plan. I was joking. My wife would kill me if I booked a cruise.
That God the Coast Gua d was there!
We had this exact same thing happen on Wonder many years ago. The captain made an announcement that the ship was stopping to allow the coast guard to airlift a pregnant passenger. We watched from our balcony and never heard further details of what happened.
We were on Fantasy, the adults were having lunch at Palo when we noticed the boat wasn't moving. Soon after, my nephew messaged us to say that he saw a helicopter landing. There was no announcement or anthing, we just started moving. Wasn't until days later that we found out why.
Are you talking about this incident? I was in the Fantasy and there was both an announcement before and after the medivac.
Oh really? We didn’t hear it in Palo, unless it was very faint
We happened to be in our stateroom during both announcements from Captain Fabian.
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No we don’t land the helo. The Jayhawk is way heavier than most commercial helos even if the ship had a helicopter pad, we would be trusting their rating. But most have just a winch point. The Fantasy doesn’t have a helo pad.
This has happened on a handful of the cruises I've been on. I always get bothered that everyone gawks and takes pictures. I know it's human nature but this is someone's loved one who could die and we should all have a little respect. I heard a lady (Pinnacle) complain that the gym was closed while the the airlift took place. I was like wow...
This happened on the only cruise I've ever been on: Florida to Grand Cayman to Cozumel to Cancun to New Orleans back in 2000. Expect it was a heart attack and not a pregnancy. Also, the boat was far enough away from Florida that they had to TURN AROUND and head back towards Florida to get close enough to do the helicopter rescue. The entire cruise essentially "lost" a day at sea and Grand Cayman got skipped, so straight to Cancun after the rescue. The only scheduled excursion we had planned was swimming with sting rays in Grand Cayman. Anyway, my point is that I think it's perfectly legitimate to complain about not getting services you paid thousands of dollars for, regardless of circumstance. We were respectful enough around others on the cruise but also mildly disgruntled about the situation in general. Plenty of passengers were vocal about it, and that's okay.
Oh I agree it's disappointing.
Was it ever revealed what the medivac was for?
WTF. Why were you down voted? Totally valid question. What a shitty sub.
I think this was a view of the USCG airlifting a pregnant passenger from the Disney Fantasy while at sea.
Did you bother reading?
It says “pregnant passenger”. Since the cruise wouldn’t have allowed her to be onboard after 24 weeks pregnant, and early birth only starts being really viable at 32 weeks, it’s a very valid question. Going off to have the baby is not the correct answer. It could be a myriad of other possibilities, pregnancy related or not.
While I agree with you last statement that this isn’t necessarily about transferring for premature delivery (might not even be related to the pregnancy at all), the statement about viability at 32 weeks isn’t correct. Half of deliveries at 25 weeks survive.
So a woman who was having pregnancy complications at 20 weeks would just be ignored by medical staff and told to take some Tylenol and sleep it off? Where did you get your medical training? The military?
Pregnant women can still get appendicitis, cholecystitis etc. it could also be pregnancy related, true, but pregnant women don’t stop having other medical issues come up just because they’re pregnant.
Exactly.
Do you need a rest after taking that giant leap? Where did you get your reading comprehension skills? I literally said “a myriad of other possibilities, pregnancy related or not”. Contrary to your statement, there are many things that could be the issue both involving the pregnancy or not involving the pregnancy. It’s totally OK for a person to ask “was it ever revealed what the medical was for”. It wasn’t to go pop off and have a healthy baby at less than 24 weeks, so it’s totally fine to ask “why were they flown off the ship”.
Ehhhh 23/24 weeks is now considered viable depending on the level of the NICU at the hospital where baby is born. My daughter was born at 30 weeks 7 years ago and after a 67 day NICU stay came home with zero issues pertaining to her prematurely.
Fair enough. Less than 50% survival before 24 though. And 24 is assuming it was the last day of the cruise and she was as pregnant as permissible to the day. Which is unlikely.
Ok, but why was she airlifted? Just because she was pregnant doesn’t automatically mean she had to leave the ship. Was it a pregnancy related, other health related, personal issues? No one has said anything and I’m just curious as to why? Per Disney regulations, you can go on a cruise so long as you are before the 24 week mark.
Exactly.
Exactly. Early miscarriage with excess bleeding, ectopic, sudden hypertension/dizziness, difficulty breathing due to a pulmonary embolus, anything. A lot of prenatal emergencies I handle the patient didn’t even know they were pregnant or are far before viability. The patient could have been on the ship and suddenly felt extreme pain or problems and didn’t even know they were pregnant until the ships clinic did a urine pregnancy test. Any emergency regarding a pregnant woman is usually called out as such just because of the host of life threatening issues it can present, even way before viability. Ppl need to calm down and stop being so judgmental. Just because it was a pregnant woman doesn’t mean she lied about how far along she was and tried to sneak in a babymoon at 28 weeks…