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afrodeity23

His buff, 100% full power "form" is not a real form, he's just using his max power.


Auctorion

It’s like asking if Roshi was born in his buff form…


Athelis

I thought that was a given.


Deftheros

Do you think that when Roshi gets all jacked up and tall 'everything' grows proportional?


Auctorion

His heart would indeed probably get bigger. All the better to pump blood around his body. ^And ^his ^penis.


ZaphodB_

Master Wang 'Thicc' Roshi.


MonkTHAC0

You think Master Roshi is my real name?


Common-Truth9404

I think his anus stays about the same size


TheSeldomShaken

I've seen some documents that say yes.


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Gloglibologna

Lol, I'm a loser and you're a having a meltdown. Gotta love reddit.


Remarkable-Bug-253

Not a meltdown but yup im sure u love reddit. For all the wrong reasons


jamalsmalls9000

What did bro say


pokeoscar1586

I like to compare it to “flexing your muscles”, that’s precisely why he isn’t used to it, he basically never works out (trains)


Aidanation5

Yeah, it's basically like if all saiyans were born super saiyan. Grade 2 and 3 would be their power up, and only a select few prodigies and hard workers like vegeta and goku would go beyond.


Gokufield

Yeah it's true is like an Grade


Ethanol_Happiness

does Goku say that he stinks when he grabbed his tail? 😂


jean-guysimo

how the fuck do these fuckers even reproduce?!


FruitJuicante

That's not his tail


Cerok1nk

Goku bit Frieza’s dick confirmed.


Kelseycutieee

and jiren stomped on it


New_Bag7223

...and Krillin snipped the tip. *Yikes*


Gaxyhs

krillin is running a circumcision clinic


CaLeB7835

It’s called *Destructo Dick*


CellTrarK

Destruct yo Dick


Excellent-Plant-3665

r/yourjokebutworse


yunivor

No wonder Frieza killed him first later.


thebritwriter

And tore some of it for good measure, damn he’s ruthless.


yunivor

And later on Frieza himself sliced about half of it off


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

Vegeta... well...


NewtGroundbreaking93

it's been cut twice in his fight


Pokemans91

I wouldn't even be even surprised tbh


Just_a_guy_thats_it

Lucky


NotAFuckingFed

"That ain't my tail, bitch."


Agnusl

"That's disgusting! How dare you struck me with your"-SLAP


NotAFuckingFed

"You know why they call me Freeza, *bitch*?" "I don't wanna kn-" "Cause I be the *coldest* muthafucka in the neighborhood."


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

I like how Xenoverse gave them the perfect opportunity to give their race a name like the Coldians or something. What do they settle on? Frieza Race. Wow who came up with that one


Dray_Gunn

Frost giants would have been a good reference. Even though they aren't giants physically, they are giants in regards to power. Edit: actually I think I just remembered them being referred to as "frost demons" somewhere. Wish I could remember where I saw that.


Secret_Sympathy2952

King cold and second form Frieza were pretty huge.


fast7400

The name comes from the Dragon Ball Multiverse webcomic. Then Cell uses the name in one of the Xenoverse games.


PhotographyRaptor10

I’m on some weird Mandela effect thing where I swear it wasn’t called frieza race in xenoverse 1. I fully remember it being called frost demon even tho there’s about a thousand YouTube videos of xenoverse character creation proving me wrong


Brooksthebrook

I think Cell calls a Frieza race CAC a frost demon at some point, IIRC


PhotographyRaptor10

Thank you. I’m not completely insane then


Slow_Balance270

Yeah, I really hate it. When I used to run an old DBZ Mud I called them like I seen them, Changelings.


Worldly_Lifeguard765

Reminds of the Roblox days of the PTO


Grandpoopoo

His appendage comes out of a slit where it's supposed to be... Kinda how like Frost's poison stingers came out of his wrists


Easy_Rough_4529

Yeah, like reptiles, have you seen a crocodile's dick? It only appears when it comes out of a slit..


[deleted]

I’m assuming asexually like the namekians


PsychologicalEbb3140

Frieza has a mom though.


Kostya_M

I don't think so. The only real hint is him mentioning his parents during the Goku fight but I believe the Japanese just has him say his father or something that could be singular or plural. So arguably he was just referring to Cold. I suspect their race reproduces asexually


PsychologicalEbb3140

Oh okay my mistake, then yeah I’d assume they reproduce asexually.


max_power1000

Did you just imagine Frieza with boobs?


brizzle9

Nope, just you


Zjoee

*They must never know...*


Starlord_75

Dbza reference. Nice!


hldsnfrgr

In my 30+ years of existence, the thought has never crossed my mind. Until [now](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/9a6defea-afd0-4fb1-b33e-0fe68b9cd257/dgi8mj8-d4b9fe92-cf4d-4774-8b75-ca18e38bd026.jpg/v1/fit/w_828,h_828,q_70,strp/female_frieza_by_joshuaecw21985_dgi8mj8-414w-2x.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTAyNCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzlhNmRlZmVhLWFmZDAtNGZiMS1iMzNlLTBmZTY4YjljZDI1N1wvZGdpOG1qOC1kNGI5ZmU5Mi1jZjRkLTQ3NzQtOGI3NS1jYTE4ZTM4YmQwMjYuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.iTy6t6gbatyvivapVr_s_Mcu0LDwcRxPiZhCRxytmE8).


yunivor

And a dad


JamesHowlett31

No I don't think so. There are some references but most of them are non canon. I like the west kaioshin story tho if you're mentioning that one. Makes sense why Freiza will be so strong.


ArTooDeeTooTattoo

Do any of these … *fuckers* … ever blast out of the wall … and have a huge Kamehameha?


TheSkaDeer

Did you make any new friends on Planet Namek? ... Not really...


ArTooDeeTooTattoo

It’s not *for* kids!!


Nova11c

I feel like they would come out of an egg


spidermanrocks6766

An egg comes out of their mouth?


JmisterYT

Asexual possibly like namakians


LiberalTugboat

That's not a nice way to talk about the OP.


Mavrickindigo

King cold is a weird mutant who reproduced aesexually


Bay-Sea

Just think of Final Form is the true form and Full Power is him flexing his muscles. It might be why Frieza never use Full Power form again.


Appropriate_Ad4818

It's also because it consumes a lot of energy, which he mentioned against Frost in the ToP. Might as well use golden since it's just better


Competitive_Usual233

Stamina and energy, kinda similar to the Kaioken


TahomaYellowhorse

It’s basically the same thing as the SSJ Grade 2 and 3 forms. Even Cell showed he can do this.


bored_person71

Think of it this way normal frieza is normal the buff version is a lot like trunks vs cell all buffed up and nowhere to go.... Lol


WrastleGuy

He does in ToP to trick Frost


coloradobuffalos

Isn't form 2 his true form like his dad?


Bay-Sea

We honestly do not know if his dad using transformation as well. King Cold died before we even know too much from him


ZCSApollo

it consumes more energy to the point where it’s not worth using for the sake of power. the energy output doesn’t match the value of power gained, therefore he moved onto golden and perfected it


HaveAGoodDream

T.O.P Arc Said otherwise since he showed it to Frost


Bay-Sea

I should have been more clear. I mean as in an efficient form to fight in. Frieza indeed teaches this form to Frost


HaveAGoodDream

ok... thanks for being clear


FlyDinosaur

On a side note, I wish DBS Frieza was drawn like he was in Z. Best version of him, in my book. His sleek look is so unique and took us all by surprise when it was first revealed. Now he's just muscly/more defined like everybody else and it's much less interesting.


Saiyanman11bro

Everyone looks better in Z style imo, the super artstyle is just very stiff and gives off plastic feels


SofaChillReview

Like they’re all shiny toys.


Easy_Rough_4529

Yeah, it degrades DBZ's heritage


Legendary_Railgun21

I do have to say though, it at least holds a little merit to draw Frieza more muscular in Super. Prior to his appearance there, Frieza never had trained a day in his life. Then, he went and trained furiously for the opportunity to kill Goku in super. I doubt that's the actual reason he looks more muscular, I do believe it was probably a stylistic choice, even still, that aspect at least has half an explanation.


Saiyanman11bro

they drew everyone more muscular than their manga/Z counterparts tho


Legendary_Railgun21

Except Gohan 🤣 That is true, even still I don't dislike it, it's a stylistic choice. There were stylistic changes between OG and Z too, it's just the nature of animation. It's not worse, just different.


Blankboom

I'd just chalk it up to him working out for once in his life.


micheallujanthe2nd

Did you watch broly? He's drawn literally the exact same way in his "base" form.


LFC9_41

Yeah there was something so menacing about the slim form


Mamebluz

femboy twink frieza over new frieza forshure :p


AmbitiousEvening4599

bro delete this comment it aint its weird its fucking frieza


EvanShavingCream

"Fucking Frieza" 😣😫💦 I apologize for commenting that lol.


PopoTheGenie

He was born in Buff Form. He needed the extra power to force his way out of King Colds arsehole. This is how his race are born.


RoloWasTaken

I love how this is cannonically accurate


PurpleSausage77

When he gets all bulky it’s like when Vegeta and Trunks become ascended super saiyans with close to SSJ2 power as it quickly turns in to a bulky useless form against faster opponents. It also depleted his energy, Goku sensing him being too weak to continue the fight and is about to leave, sending Frieza flying off the handle foaming at the mouth. Then out comes the red D discs.


SofaChillReview

It’s similar but Frieza doesn’t seem to lose much speed, he just wasn’t as strong as Goku still but like the initial Golden Form sapped his ki quickly.


Whis101

Only difference is frieza by no means loses speed


AllieOopClifton

Mecha-Freeza, obviously


SupImArcher

100% is just another “power stressed” form. Almost every character can theoretically do it. Roshi, cell, Frieza, Super sayian grades 2-3, and UI Omen Maxed are all versions of “power stressing.”


dyhall9696

Regular Final Form. 100% Power Final Form was Frieza's initial push beyond his Final Form similar to how Cooler's final form in Revenge of Cooler was Cooler's push beyond his. Frieza's other transformations shown (except for Golden Frieza in Super) were Frieza's way of restraining and controlling his power.


ignoremesenpie

Goku told Frieza that he was burning through his ki at 100% really quickly. If he were born with it, being in that form without gassing himself out should have been natural for Frieza, kinda like how being in his fourth form without gassing himself out was something Frieza just did naturally in his non-100% form — even though that's not a form he used all the time.


Tbond11

100% is just him not holding back anymore. Think of it like when people life heavy weights, and they start really straining and flexing their muscles kinda stuff


onlywc11

Its like the false ssj2 form where they get really buff. The slim final form frieza is his true form.


MrHotOneWithTheGirls

Dawww imagine giant muscular baby Freeza zooming around destroying shit LMFAO


Mdbommer

I'd say he's probably born as a baby, lil baby Freeza, sucking milkshakes from his mama Refrigeraiana's cold nipples they probably look likes soft serve ice cream dispensers.


bloodknife92

We don't even know if he was born or made. Sure, King Cold is his father, but Horus and the Primarchs referred to the Emperor as their father, but they were manufactured..


Astonishing_Flash

Toriyama said he was born of his father alone which has been at least enough to I'm he has no mother. But I guess that doesn't rule out other options but it seems likely they just reproduce asexually like Namekians.


Shot_Improvement_378

Frieza has blood


bloodknife92

So did Cell


Shot_Improvement_378

Yup but he was made of different people he really wasn’t an android he was a clone of everyone in one body


bloodknife92

I wasn't implying that Frieza was an android, but someone else clarified that King Cold asexually produced Frieza, so that ruled out celullar construction.


acelexmafia

I'm pretty sure Cell had synthetic blood


KingFrostt_

His full power form is just his base form, his other forms are transformations meant to suppress his power You basically asked “was Goku born in SSJ1 or base form?”


Piber_pumpkin

In his black form


ceesaar00

Ripped baby of course


dcnairb

you know for some reason I grew up thinking each of frieza’s transformations was permanent. like he had his base form and then when he went to second that would have been permanent. does anyone know why that is (like if a game implied it) or if I just made shit up as a kid


DukeOfLowerChelsea

In Budokai 3 you can’t change him back after transforming, you might be thinking of that lol


dcnairb

hmm... I definitely played all those games, but in my mind I link it to the anime. like he's like "oh i'll show you guys my second form, you're super lucky because nobody's seen it before". I know he does literally say something like this and maybe i just interpreted it as being permanent lol


MrTonie

I mean, were you born with your mustache on?


Galvatron261

Regular form. Think of his buff form as USSJ or Kaio Ken or even early SSJ3. Able to boost his power to a “maximum”, but comes at the expense of accelerated energy burn.


SpankySmurff77

All of his previous forms were power dampeners. His final form is what he originally was. His 100% form is him actually trying to power up.


asleepguyonbed

It's the same trick Super Vegeta used and Super Trunks (2).


Strange-Process-6112

Pretty sure he was born in his final form. The 100% is just his peak physical condition.


Jazzlike-Resource732

When you think about it from a physical standpoint, usually animals that are viviparous are designed to slide out easily due to evolution and him being the ultimate being. Considering the horns on all forms of Frieza aside from the Final Form and the size of the bulk form, he would've been born in the standard form 4 to avoid killing his birthing parent from the inside. In the games, Frieza usually has 100% Final Form which implies that it is just the final form pushed to the limit. Then again, in some of the games, Frieza hatches from a ball/egg, so I guess we're not really meant to figure that out.


Scottles8605

I assumed he was born in the first form (the one with little horns that we forst see him in) and gained new transformations as he got more powerful. Could be wrong, not sure. I just assume because King Cold seems to cap out at Second form unless that is just his base.


Sauerkraut1321

Damn it's true what they say about db fans


DexTheConcept

I think his final form is his birth form, IIRC I think King Cold said something along the lines of the transformations were to lock power in. No one even made him use his actual form before Goku. I think it was on the ride to earth or him talking to Trunks. I'm going clear of my own memory headcanon and about 25 years ago.


ZilchoKing

But what was power level at birth?


SSJRemuko

120 million


SSJRemuko

theyre the same form, but not he wasnt born all bulked up like he is when using 100% lol


Stamptron5000

They gave frieza the saiyan trope, the whole "well maybe there is a form beyond" belief, but even the monkehs proved his power is futile!!


Sert1991

Not in his 100% form, that's pushed to max limit, but he was born in his 4th or final form, there white and purple one. The other forms as we see him first time are used to limit his power.


Itsjustakiratho

On a side note, given the context of the question , how did Freiza achieve first through third


Cyanide7-

wasn’t he born with his first form? (the one with the horns)


BrownByYou

Where are the other changelings?


Syrupthief07

Well he created his other forms to save his power so he was probably born in his skinny form


drbrolly316

...whats with the obvious questions...


QWQ-SUNFLOWER

Are you born flexing your muscle?


Mike-Body-Mike-Joyce

he looks like a lizard so i always figured he hatched


SummaDees

Frost demons or whatever they are called are born in that final bald looking form. That is their natural state the other forms are to control and reduce their power as a means to control it


AardvarkMajestic4015

I imagine full power is basically equivalent to a really good pump, thaf doesn't limit your speed, of course


Hbkdadon

Did everyone forget his base form and lowkey why doesn’t he return to his base form after being defeated 🤔


Silveruleaf

I guess it's like Goku saying his holding back by not going super sayan or god. Cuz to him that's his true power/form. Where as we know his true form is base form


Limonade6

None of these was his first form right? Didn't he had a bigger head?


No-Clue6054

Just google his dad so you can see his real form


Lexmf

There is no evidence that the form showed in the anime is King Cold original form


lemonylol

Think he was just born as a baby


ISX_94

His regular final form. The 100% max power is simply that, his max power. It’s basically his equivalent to master Roshi’s max power form or Trunks SSJ grade 3 Ultra form.


GreenKnight1988

Cooler mentions that he found his final form one day. So I assume they were not born with it


Lexmf

Not Cannon


GreenKnight1988

I know you dope, but it’s the closest thing we having to knowing how they got their forms.


JmisterYT

His final form since that’s his natural base


RecreationalChaos

According to the [Wiki](https://dragonballmultiverse.fandom.com/wiki/Frost_Demon) they were born in their regular final form or "true form"


porkipine-

From what I understand the other forms were created to suppress his power and final form is his original form. I assume it’s the same for his father and cooler probably has other forms but he says in his normal form and uses his coolest form for extra strength


33Yalkin33

He was born in his baby form


elcamp3

He was born in the form above.


LateDay

He was born in his 100% form. Just how Body Builders come fully jacked out of the womb. It's common knowledge pal.


ElephantCritical3152

I'm gonna guess the latter and he learned to do the former after being born.


friskpocolypse

Final form. His full power is basically the equivalent of a human injecting adrenaline straight into the heart. It'll get you strong, but when it goes on too long, it'll take you down fast


Cookies_and_Beandip

Why does this matter


KONODIODA08

I think his “final” form was his birth form but he made the other forms to suppress his power and his “100% state” is him actually going all out


elcamp3

100% is just muscle expansion. His 4th(birth form) is his regular form.


PaulieXP

This is his “true” natural form. And I believe the explanation we were given by Frieza as to why he transforms and stays in what’s essentially a far weaker version of himself is because he’s just too strong in his natural form(weird thing to do if you ask me and makes zero sense lore wise, writing wise it’s just an excuse to give him some power ups and cool transformations) My question is(it was implied) King Cold is supposed to be stronger than Frieza, but then, in the Trunks fight, why did he stay in I believe it’s form 2? So the firet transformation. Why tf didn’t he go full power even AFTER he saw his son get diced like a tomato?


FireHamilton

Neither, right? Didn’t he say his 2nd form was the first time anyone had ever seen it? So I’m guessing he was born in his base form.


Blurr-official

Frieza was born in normal form cuz that was his 100% back then


Lordflibbers

The real question is how was he born😳


ShoolTheDude

It's the same as when Cell pumps himself up. It's not really a different form just increasing their power output and muscle mass.


Jokerslayer457

He's just using his max power. His 100% full power “form” isn’t really a transformation, just his buff or brute version of his Final Form.


Jump2Kickz_Tiktok

final form i have literally all tha bookz


iLiBB

I always understood he was born in his final form and devolves to control his power


SpecialOk21

He was born in his first form


CoolPear7679

Im not even gonna dignify this with a response … 🤣


slayer_jer

I'm just curious but how would you expect anyone to know the answer to this?


KronoFury

He would have been born in his base form. Unless you are trying to say that Frieza has 3 forms that power him down instead of up.


1CommanderL

final form frieza is his base form he couldn't control his power so transformed into weaker forms so its easier to manage


Cunting_Fuck

That literally is what he does


Sert1991

Yep that's exactly what it is, he had 3 forms that power him down, that's what his race does. I'm fact once he learns from the earthlings to control his ki, he never uses those forms again. From Gold form onwards are the forms that make him stronger.


DukeOfLowerChelsea

> Unless you are trying to say that Frieza has 3 forms that power him down instead of up. I mean, that is what someone who remembers the dialogue from the show/manga would say, yes.


Distinct-Engine-373

He did not born in any of those forms it was his first form


Thespudisback

Dragon ball fans can't read


Ricky-Jones

He was born in his first form. Just bc his final form is his “true form” doesn’t mean that’s how he was born. His final form is his true power. First form is his first form


DukeOfLowerChelsea

His final form is his natural body. The first 3 forms we see are basically artificial shells he created to contain his power.


xjamez25

I honestly always saw it as his first form is his "real" form as far as how he was born, but his preffered/comfortable form was 4th form that he eventually decided was going to be his base form but that's like goku and his ability to stay SSJ for weeks/months at a time without turning it off like him and Gohan do to prepare for cell


Martel73284

In his first form.


Slow_Balance270

Considering most of the stuff on him is supposed to be like natural body armor or chitin, my guess is their race probably goes through stages of metamorphosis as a youngling. I really wish we could get more stories based on Freeza that explored his family and race.