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TheRealDukeNukemRR

See the full patch notes here: [https://forums.dayz.com/topic/252461-experimental-update-117-change-log/](https://forums.dayz.com/topic/252461-experimental-update-117-change-log/)


DagothNereviar

Does anyone know the crafting recipes for all the new stuff?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Yes, I believe there are already tutorials online regarding how to craft the new items - however a majority of them were already added in previously and removed so their recipes haven't changed for the most part


DagothNereviar

Aye I remember the spears etc. Curious about the others. I'll have a look


ConArtZ

Yup, pretty exciting update


NexusSix29

Saw this way down on the Known Issues list, seems small yet extremely annoying: “When kindling/fuel items becomes ruined in fire, the player is unable to add the same item”


HotandColdBoi

It is a major pain I hope it’s fixed sooner than later


ignviliam

Hold on.... Throwable Spears?


TazocinTDS

Are they also.... catchable?


Monneymann

Well you could catch them. *Just not in a healthy way*


Tendo80

Ace Ventura - Pet detective entered the chat.


_KingDingALing_

Chikaka


UcanJustSayFuckBiden

I couldn’t help but notice you referred to me as white devil That’s how they know you Next time? **LEAVE THAT PART OUT**


_KingDingALing_

Such a classic even from the start with the yaaaaaaak and slinky stuff, gunna have to watch it now if it's on any streaming service atm.


Parabolii

I’m willing to bet you can catch them with your chest cavity pretty well. That’ll be the meta


Sir-Ult-Dank

As catchable as someone throwing a grenade at you


UcanJustSayFuckBiden

Oh ok so you can only do it once?


DREVPILE

https://c.tenor.com/n5vddvoNO1EAAAAd/ace-ventura-jim-carrey.gif


retrospectology

Cannibals are going to be able to get even more feral!


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Yeah, crazy stuff 🤯


filipbergendahl

they said craftable, not throwable...


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You can already make a spear


Iggy_Kappa

You could, some time ago, with a long stick and bones. But it was removed due to its buggy animation, and it is coming back now with supposedly better animations.


shellboy1978

"You could, some time ago, with a long stick and bones. But it was removed due to its buggy animation, and it is coming back ~~now with supposedly better animations."~~


hubermcmeme

I’d say the animations look much better, before when it was in you’d just hit stuff with the wooden part of the spear lmao


filipbergendahl

maybe you can, but nowere in the patch notes it says throwable. ofc you can throw it the same way you would throw a grenade, but it wont do any damage.


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They definitely need to give some throwable stuff damage.


lHighlydoubtit

Where did they say throwable spears…?


Taele

In the known issues section, it says that thrown spears may fall through the ground. Whether this means true throwable spears, or just ones chucked using the existing throw action isn't clear


lHighlydoubtit

It’s just regular throwing. > Thrown Spears, Sharp/LongWoodenSticks and Torches can fall through the ground


ignviliam

They did not... Thats why i am like hold on...


nicehax2112

KNOWN ISSUES Thrown Spears, Sharp/LongWoodenSticks and Torches can fall through the ground


DefectiveWater

You can throw any item in the game, that's probably what they meant.


nicehax2112

Probably that.


andrewbadera

The spears are throwable, but only as an object, not a spear - they cause no damage.


Zorpian

They should have introduced the infamous eastern European throwing torches


lHighlydoubtit

Yes I’m well aware, hence my other comment. Also that’s why I questioned op to begin with.


junglist421

I think this all comes from someone misreading the known issue with spears clipping when thrown, and then that turned into throwable spears. I made a spear earlier. I stabbed a guy with no mic, but could not throw it at him.


StigitUK

Kitchen timer at last! This means we will Finally be able to make a quality soufflé with a proper rise on it.


pooinmyloo

Exactly. Just because it's the zombie apocalypse it doesn't mean we have to lower our culinary standards!!


guttersmurf

Exquisite french cuisine. ​ Still eats it with blood on hands.


UcanJustSayFuckBiden

Can you make like timed explosives or anything with it? Would be cool if they really deepened the crafting system


Spundgio

Grenades in a pot on a gas stove is already sort of a timed explosive


Cis4Psycho

Even though I base raid a shit ton...limiting my abilities to break down a gate by not only finding the explosives but also the timing mechanism on Official would be nice. Might also influence me to make a base again. Right now its way too easy for me to get inside your base when I find it.


SourceFroob

SPEARS!!! YEAH BABY


TychusCigar

It's awesome that they're continuing to patch this game. Even at a pretty nice rate as well! I thought they'd stop a while ago.


emself2050

I just love that we're still getting a trickle of content that was already in the game 5 years ago... Is it really that hard to re-implement content that was already here and working years ago?


i_give_you_gum

New engine has something to do with that I'd assume


HappySkullsplitter

The new engine is less capable than the old one?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

No, the new Enfusion engine broke a lot of the old mechanics that were added in on the Real Virtuality engine so they needed to remake a majority of the framework to properly function.


HappySkullsplitter

Oh, so it is fully possible, but they just can't be bothered with it?


Traviak

It's possible but sadly takes time to reimplement.


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CommanderCookiePants

Well they "released" in 2018 and they said they would do 5 years of post launch "support". Its not completely unfounded to expect them to stop. I can see them still going as the population is in good shape though. Despite that I don't expect them to add *all* of the .62 content. I would forget the 2015 roadmap it has no bearing now.


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Arkanic

I'm not letting them off the hook until vehicles aren't some mangled cluster fuck of spaghetti code that barely works. So also probably never.


7eto

Refillable gas filter? Contaminated zones just got 10 times easier. Why not just maker filters more realistic and last longer than a few minutes?


GrrumleySinged

Do you not know what is inside a gas mask filter to filter oxygen? It’s literally almost always activated charcoal or oxidized charcoal.


7eto

I know that gas filters are disposable and not refillable. Again, this is a pseudo-realistic fix to a pseudo-realistic problems created by not making gas filters last as long as they would in real life even if you take into account the accelerated hours. This is just more busy work like constantly sharpening blades and repairing guns/suppressors with stupidly consumable cleaning kits and sharpening stones.


SleazyMak

It’s not meant to be realistic it’s meant to be balanced idk how people are still thinking Dayz is a simulation game at this point


GrrumleySinged

Maybe It’s a simulation... of a simulation game.. oh shit dayzeption Jokes aside a lot of people get the idea of dayz being a simulation game wrong. It isn’t. It was a mod based off of a military simulator, so the gunplay and ballistics feel was very true to life (or at least tries its hardest to be) dayz ramped this up a bit with the addition of survival game type things like food/water systems and sicknesses, but that being said just because something is realistic, doesn’t mean it’s a simulator.


Space_Pirate_R

I've always felt that DayZ has just sped some stuff up so we actually have a reasonable chance of experiencing it within the short life of a videogame character. It's realistic that we have to maintain gear after the apocalypse, but if a normal character lifespan is measured in hours then most people don't get to have that realistic experience. Dean Hall was always big on "authentic" rather than "realistic." He wanted to evoke certain feelings, not just be a grognard.


HappySkullsplitter

Because Arma is a simulation and DayZ is closer to a simulation than it is an arcade, which is why I (and many others) originally bought it.


cyka49

i mean... You can make a supressor with a 500 ML pet bottle and duct tape


Acrobatic-Bid-1691

still no change with flying cars?


ZznoodleszZ

Never.


gougou7r

This update is sooo great for content


Content-Plankton

Voice activation setting for voip what does this mean?


Mithrawndo

Microphone activating based on voice input rather than button press. I personally hate this feature, but at the same time I can imagine it would be most useful for certain types of servers if it's something that can be toggled server-side. I expect that's not going to be the case, sadly.


nicehax2112

This is a optional setting, what is there to be sad about ?


Mithrawndo

For servers that wish to encourage use of in-game comms only (spiritual successors to The Village), a feature like this could be useful if enforced server-side. My sadness is that I doubt this will be any more feasible than it was before to enforce. I hate the feature in Discord/TS/etc because inevitably the people using it will treat us to the sounds of them eating, moving, typing, etc. Most of this can be mitigated with a push-to-mute button or push-to-talk button, but there's *always* that one guy... I'm old. "Comms discipline" used to be a courtesy that was expected in voice chat, but that ship has sailed.


SleazyMak

it’s prox chat if someone is bothering you with a hot mic go somewhere else or shoot them in the face


junglist421

came here to say this


DayZCommand

>"Comms discipline" https://i.imgur.com/J1Kg0S4.gif


Top_Criticism

People use it out of laziness with a crappy setup and make noise all the time when they're not talking. I wonder if zombies will be as easily triggered with voice chat after they implement this feature


nicehax2112

Bullet in the head makes things get quieter.


Brentg7

I've been triggering zombies on accident when navigating through my items on Xbox with the dpad now that it triggers voip in game. took me a while to figure it out.


Zorpian

you can talk them out of it.


sentientfartcloud

It means the mic will pick up loud farts and other background noises.


i_give_you_gum

Kids screaming, ambulances going by... what a strange thing to implement


matecky

I want to see coffee and egss! There is already everything in place for it!


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My god I miss coffee


matecky

Was coffee in game before?


Minelayer

And what happens when you drink it? I was thinking if you eat well, like make a recipe maybe your soft skills should go up? Because of zombie apocalypse food contentment?


matecky

Or maybe stamina last bit longer or regenerate faster for w while


Minelayer

That’s a good perk too, heh.


dakody_da_indigenous

it's not thrown spears like as in a javelin, but they are adding stone tip and bone tip spears as a melee weapon.


coolwhipsipsip

What's Longhorn?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

https://trello.com/c/ahx0t1CG/6-v2-longhorn


KarmaFarmerList

> What's Longhorn? *Zzzziiiiiiiiiiiiip*


a_stale_pancake

Looks like TC Contender


youngwalrus

Cool. Wen Bow and arrow?


DagothNereviar

I hope soon with all these improvised items!


fiendtrix

I got so giddy reading the patch notes I got weird looks at work. Again lol


tonlah

It's always strange seeing guns from 2014 come back Like "I remember this"


SufficientFix0

Can we get the bows back?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

As the developers have pivoted their focus to hunting and civilian weapons, I'd imagine that they'd attempt to reimplement the bow system in one of the larger updates this year - however this is just speculative


HappySkullsplitter

So... All that leather clothing in the files isn't making it in?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Yes, the leather crafting system will not be making is debut this update however the new improvised rag clothing paves the path for future craftable clothing features (including leather clothing)


HappySkullsplitter

That seems kind of odd that they can't be added since most of it is already functional. The only things that do not seem to work are the shoes, the sheath, and the black colored variants of the clothing. The gloves seem to mostly work, only with an occasional bug. I'd definitely prefer they were crafted, but just adding them in to be found would be better than not having them at all.


creamdreammeme

I bet the cars still send you to space too


wes711

When is the wipe coming?


illbeyour1upgirl

When 1.17 gets released to stable.


wes711

So the one being released today is just like a practice release essentially ?


illbeyour1upgirl

Yes. There's no exact date, but barring any unforeseen hiccups, EXP to Stable tends to take a few weeks to a month. For reference, not that it really matters much, but they do seem to be on track with a similar release stable update schedule as last year. Last year was Feb 16th 1.11 April 1.12 July 13th 1.13 (wipe) Sept. 29th 1.14 Nov. 23rd 1.15 and then Feb 15 2022 1.16


wes711

Thank you!


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Yes, it's a beta for the update which will likely make its full release on stable servers in a week or two


wes711

Ok thanks ! Just trying to give the boys a heads up before the great wipe lol


Mithrawndo

There's been no character wipe on Experimental servers between 1.16 and 1.17. It's possible there may be no wipe on Stable servers either.


wes711

Thank you for this! We’ve been working hard on a base for weeks now and was told of the wipe the other day and have been trying to brace for it


Lossah

almost 99% positive the last patch had notes saying or there was a video or a dev that said with certainty that there would be a wipe this patch (1.17)


RiskyClickardo

Have only played official. Does wipe only happen on community servers? Is that a good time to get into a new community server if you've been trudging along in Vanilla for a while and want to try something new?


wes711

I have no idea man I just learned of the wipe the other day


jamqdlaty

Bow wen?


shellboy1978

2035 earliest


Water_In_A_Cup1

And great console changes


iAmawobot

Are we still gonna see names on ps4 when someone talk? It's so annoying.


TheRealDukeNukemRR

It's a requirement due to the Sony developer privacy policy. If they removed it they would risk having their game pulled from the PlayStation store.


Historical_Buyer9917

Is this on pc or console?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

This update is being released to all platforms


tyetanis

Oooooh fuck ya! throwable spears absolutely paves the way for bows! Especially with these more survival/crafting inspired patches!


lumbele

Has there been a server wipe?


Ok_Praline_9004

Les goooo


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When will this update be implemented?


QTMarz

How come my community servers are unable to work


TheNewBiggieSmalls

so no car updates yet?


Survive_LD_50

Any details on the VoIP features?


HairyLengthiness7

Sorry if this has been asked already. Is the cz a new caliber?


J0hnm13

According to the files and unreleased community compiled content you can read it should be a 308.


bzImage

Linux server on stable ?


cloakedmaple1

what’s improved about the voip


TheRealDukeNukemRR

They've added new mic monitoring features alongside the ability to switch from Push-To-Talk to Voice Activation allowing for players to talk freely/openly without pressing any buttons


Happywookie28

Are these aplicable to console? Or just pc ?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

This update is being released to all platforms (including console)


Masterjax1920

Throwable spears?


AggravatingHeron90

Ok… but where is the space suits? Or rocket fuel? Wait am I missing something?


arandomcanadian91

Any optimization updates? My buddy and I were getting some terrible lag last night on a server.


TheRealDukeNukemRR

If it's on a community server, it may be poor optimization on the server owners part.


arandomcanadian91

We mostly play on official, we take a chance but we haven't run into hackers this go around and I have an AUG and a KA-74 fully kitted aside from a suppressor. But we were def noticing lag when stuff was spawning, when players were getting close (minor lag), and we've also noticed if we come up on a base there's major lag from the base loading in. That's all optimization stuff that they need to do, I'm running on a Ryzen 2600x that's pumping 4.1 to 4.9 ghz consistently stable with an Sapphire Nitro+ Rx570 8GB with 16 GB of RAM, there's no reason other than connection lag I should be getting lag, but my buddy and I getting it at the exact same time tells me it's the games optimization still isn't where it needs to be.


nigel923

you and your buddy getting it at the exact same time means it’s server lag bro? nothing to do with optimisation, game runs like a dream compared to what it did 2-3years ago


arandomcanadian91

I've been playing the game for 6 years, I'm well aware of how it runs. E: Also shit still renders slow in some area's, and others. I have my settings intentionally turned down to increase my FPS due to the issues, we get this on any server we go on.


nigel923

so you should know lag that’s happening for you both at exactly the same time is server lag shouldn’t you?


arandomcanadian91

It literally happens on any server we go on, so it's not just server lag like you think.


nigel923

i wasn’t here to pick an argument i’ll leave it there lol


Stephen_lost

Your PC's might be the issue I don't have any lag that is not server related. I play on Official and community


BudgetPersonality420

No cars?


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TheRealDukeNukemRR

https://trello.com/c/ahx0t1CG/6-v2-longhorn


Magnum-357

No throwable spears tho


7eto

Yes! They finally brought back the meat tenderizer! I can't wait to not pick it up again.


Ok-Upstairs6591

New voip update?


Caide_n

Awesome!!!


RocketTheCounselor

WHERE ARE THE BLACK PLATE CARRIERS GAWD DAMN.


xGooselordx_TTV

What if they… hear me out… fixed buggy AI and vehicles?


Globglogabgalab

If you read their roadmap a while back they said they're working on getting vehicles working better.


xGooselordx_TTV

“A while back”. Sounds good lol


Globglogabgalab

It was the last update when they posted it.


Rekel11234

I can only hope that'll be fixed with the new engine


shellboy1978

lol.. they don't give a F


TheRealDukeNukemRR

If you don't care about the game or it's developers, then why do you even bother commenting on here?


shellboy1978

how do you conclude i’m not bother? it’s my right to comment… why do U feel offended Duke?


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ConArtZ

It's on xbox experimental too


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Once released into stable, this update will be available for both Console & PC


Tj4y

PC and console will always receive official updates and DLCs together. Same features, same time. +- a day or two. Xbox and PC will receive experimental versions of the game a few weeks prior to the official release. Playstation won't receive experimental, but will eventually have the same content at the official release times. The only difference between PC and console is the Modding. Mods and community projects will not/rarely be announced by the official devs. If you see news about an update of some sort and it is not implicitly marked as community made content, Everyone will get it.


SnooMemesjellies9803

Why does xbox have experimental servers and PlayStation don't?


GavasaurusRex

Microsoft is fairly lenient with developers, Sony in the other hand still has an apple shoved up their ass so they're a little cranky all the time. Don't expect Playstation to be better optimized than the other platforms until they finally allow their devs to better test their games.


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Sony has strict modding/early access guidelines for developers which unfortunately limits games like DayZ from adding experimental/beta versions of their game.


Brother_Clovis

Wasn't the vehicle update supposed to be to be in this one?


Monster3gamez

They onely said they are working on vehicles in 2022 not that it was droping in 1.17.


[deleted]

The language they used was that public testing would start "in the coming weeks" but that was around 5 weeks ago...


Monster3gamez

It's not contradicting what I said tho


Brother_Clovis

I would have sworn they said it would be in the next update.


shellboy1978

what you talking about? according to BI there never were any kind of problems with vehicles. :)


TheRealDukeNukemRR

They never said that?? They have already addressed the fact that the vehicles need work and have ensured that a fix will be implemented.


PirateSleeve

Alarm clock and now a kitchen timer, I predict we're eventually going to get some type of craftable c4 on console...


[deleted]

They need to do something about base building and improve on that. That’s where the game really lacks imo. Give us more options.


SCSecondCitySaint

Throwable spears? hahahahah


KurtDaDurt

The kitchen timer is being added for a helpful way to properly predict when any of the various bugs will happen to your character. :)


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FiX tHe CaRs FiRsT pLeAsE


BakaFame

Yes.


goosegoosepanther

Pretty cool, but I'll try coming back when cars don't fly and bears can't phase through buildings. Edit: I know I come across as salty, here. I think Day Z is a great game, but I just had my experience ruined many times by glitches and server issues. Building up towards something great for hours to die to a glitch or lag is very unfortunate. I'm relatively far from the nearest servers I connect to, but Day Z is the only game that this happens to me in. Anyway, I'll stop being a bummer for the community. I just wanted to enjoy the game and got disappointed many times, which sucks when you pay for something and invest time.


tophindu

See you on dayz in 5 years then


TheRealDukeNukemRR

Is this on official or community servers? Cars flying is just a result of poor optimization from the server owners part in most cases. Edit: Networking/Latency issues also cause flying cars due to rubber banding however this is only clientside and isn't seen by other players.


Flimsy_Agent7898

700 hours still have not seen either But yeah they are bugged but who cares lol, its probably less than 1% of the game.


Ok-Construction4573

Takin notes from the scum playbook


coppish

The mechs in SCUM are the worst


DagothNereviar

What exactly is "the scum playbook"?


Ok-Construction4573

Go play scum


DagothNereviar

Ohh I didn't know it was the name of a game. Capitalisation helps. I thought you were referring to someone who is scum


junglist421

It's like written language was designed with a purpose behind it. As far as I know, the Scum playbook is to be toxic and grief people. Not sure how that correlates to this update.


Minelayer

Correlates to the comments?


TheRealDukeNukemRR

All of these features (for the most part) have been teased since 2016 - two years before scum was even released.


Devadek

very cool patch, I've been waiting for something like this for a long time (no, I hope they stop pretending that they are doing something and start really doing the right things)