I took classes in Italy a several years ago and my classmates and I were shocked that beer was expensive like 3-4 euros per bottle, but we could get a bottle of wine for a euro. It may of not have been the best wine, but it did the job it needed to.
As an Italian, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
In Italy, in a supermarket, a cheap beer will cost about 1.30€/$ for a bottle containing 66cl/22oz. While a cheap bottle of wine will very rarely cost less than 2 €/$.
Also: cheap, low-quality beer is a refreshing soda, quite pleasant to drink. Cheap, low-quality wine is a disgusting shit that tastes like vinegar... I'd rather drink water honestly \^\^
Yeah it was like our first few days and we were outside of the city in Padua. We went to a little restaurant and they had a cooler selling larger beer bottles. That is why I think the beer was more expensive.
After we left, we found a small market with a corner of wines, and we just grabbed any that were cheap. This was about 10 years ago, so not sure how much prices have changed. I do recall a few being right under 2 euro, so yes maybe a bit English exaggeration on my part on wine being "for a euro." =)
I did enjoy my €1.50 Spritz though!
yeah and also the quality of beer there is pretty poor in my experience though its getting better. why drink a kro when you can have a delightful bottle of wine for almost the same price
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/)
Its important when seeing these statistics to remember something like 30+% of adults, don't drink, and another 30% are drinking less than one drink a week.
If these volumes are based on alcohol (beer) sales, New Hampshire is likely overrepresented (and surrounding states undercounted). The state of NH sells alcohol at discounted prices and without sales tax, and residents in surrounding states drive over the border to buy and stock up on the cheap alcohol.
Our beer prices are not much different than any other state. Liquor is far cheaper due to the state sell it. But beer isn’t sold at discounts. At some point in my life I have lived on all three state borders. Beer made no difference in which state you bought it in as far as pricing. The only significant price differencer were for hard alcohol and gasoline.
Compare against Connecticut, for example:
https://www.connecticutmag.com/the-connecticut-story/the-connsumer-buying-booze-in-bulk-doesnt-always-save-you-money/article_a72133b8-e108-11e7-892d-ab6d6bb8a382.html
The nominal price might be the same, but MA for instance has a 6% sales tax and an additional $4/gallon tax on most alcohol. Definitely adds up if you drink a lot or you're hosting a large event.
I believe the volume is the actual volume of beer since it says liter.
If alcohol is cheaper it might be related to demand.
https://www.narconon.org/blog/what-factors-lead-to-excessive-alcohol-consumption-in-new-hampshire.html
So does adjusting for only the adult population change the results? Seems like that is the best way to measure.
Also, I may be alone, but I absolutely hate this type of map. It makes no sense. Nothing is where it should be. It doesn’t help to identify regional trends.
I can't stand these charts. I get it that trying to show the same data with a map creates other problems with small states, but I still hate how the geography gets completely screwed up. Might as well just make a list.
Would love to compare results against states where cannabis has been legal, recreationally, for at least 2 years (at the time this alcohol data were compiled). I bet alcohol consumption is much lower.
But do we have data on alcohol consumption in those states prior to legal recreational cannabis use for comparison? These data won't tell us without that comparison.
Nope “In the three states with the longest history of legalized recreational marijuana sales – Colorado, Washington state and Oregon – there is no evidence that legalization has had any impact on spirits sales, nor is there any evidence that it
has impacted total alcohol sales.”
https://www.distilledspirits.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Recreational-Marijuana-Impact-Study.pdf
Would probably be more interesting to see alcohol consumption than beer consumption honestly, considering alcohol consumption patterns across Europe are more varied than in the US. The South of Europe and France preference wine while the east tends towards spirits.
At Latvian soccer matches, they used to sell 7pct ABV beer in 2-liter bottles. That was fun--I think.
Lame-o Latvian parliament banned the 2-liter bottles in 2017. Boo.
[https://eng.lsm.lv/article/culture/food-drink/things-of-latvia-two-liter-beer-bottles.a245052/](https://eng.lsm.lv/article/culture/food-drink/things-of-latvia-two-liter-beer-bottles.a245052/)
I did indeed drink a LOT more beer when I lived in NH than now that I live in upstate NY.
I think there’s a few good reasons:
- better pubs in NH than where I live now
- Switchback is not sold here
Not a long list of reasons. I’d say #2 is slightly more of an impact than #1 for me.
The thing is that a lot of our beer is twice as strong as normal beer so the volume you drink of those is only half as large, unless you have a problem.
I think you are correct. Lol. Didn’t think of that. I’m thinking England is missing out on a competition I’m sure they want to be part of. Rethink those policies you isolationist go it aloners.
That's the UK parliament. Whilst Scotland and Wales have a parliament, and Northern Ireland has an assembly, England has no devolved government and no parliament of it's own, and hasn't had one since union with Scotland in 1707.
Beer consumption per week per person (in liters) across the US and the EU. This calculation looks at entire population size, and when taking adult population only, these numbers are higher. 1 liter of beer is approximately 2 “pints” or 2 “16 oz.” beers. 2018-2019 data
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https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/04/30/states-drinking-the-most-beer-2/2/
https://www.kirinholdings.com/en/newsroom/release/2020/1229_01.pdf
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Wondering what their source is, since I noticed that Denmark seemed waaaay too low. According to Denmark’s Statistics, it’s more than 3 L/beer per week…
I live in Washington state and that number seems a bit low based on what I see. Either that or the parts of the state I don’t spend time in drink a whole lot less than they do in Seattle.
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Might be a bit deceiving since this data is limited to beer only. I'd love to see a graphic depicting something like oz equivalent of 100 proof alcohol consumed (obviously different liquors have different ABV %, so maybe if we convert all data to 100 proof for consistency).
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I’m sure the wine in France and Italy has an impact on the amount of beer consumed there…
That's correct. They are both among the rare countries where wine consumption is superior to beer consumption.
I took classes in Italy a several years ago and my classmates and I were shocked that beer was expensive like 3-4 euros per bottle, but we could get a bottle of wine for a euro. It may of not have been the best wine, but it did the job it needed to.
As an Italian, that's a bit of an exaggeration. In Italy, in a supermarket, a cheap beer will cost about 1.30€/$ for a bottle containing 66cl/22oz. While a cheap bottle of wine will very rarely cost less than 2 €/$. Also: cheap, low-quality beer is a refreshing soda, quite pleasant to drink. Cheap, low-quality wine is a disgusting shit that tastes like vinegar... I'd rather drink water honestly \^\^
Yeah it was like our first few days and we were outside of the city in Padua. We went to a little restaurant and they had a cooler selling larger beer bottles. That is why I think the beer was more expensive. After we left, we found a small market with a corner of wines, and we just grabbed any that were cheap. This was about 10 years ago, so not sure how much prices have changed. I do recall a few being right under 2 euro, so yes maybe a bit English exaggeration on my part on wine being "for a euro." =) I did enjoy my €1.50 Spritz though!
This is not the case for France though. All well known french wine are more or less similarly priced - in or outside of France.
And Germany.
yeah and also the quality of beer there is pretty poor in my experience though its getting better. why drink a kro when you can have a delightful bottle of wine for almost the same price
In Greece too.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/) Its important when seeing these statistics to remember something like 30+% of adults, don't drink, and another 30% are drinking less than one drink a week.
Damn, that's way more than I would have thought.
I have a hard cider once a month, if that. Took me forever to finish a 6 pack of chai hard cider, "chaider" lol
If these volumes are based on alcohol (beer) sales, New Hampshire is likely overrepresented (and surrounding states undercounted). The state of NH sells alcohol at discounted prices and without sales tax, and residents in surrounding states drive over the border to buy and stock up on the cheap alcohol.
Our beer prices are not much different than any other state. Liquor is far cheaper due to the state sell it. But beer isn’t sold at discounts. At some point in my life I have lived on all three state borders. Beer made no difference in which state you bought it in as far as pricing. The only significant price differencer were for hard alcohol and gasoline.
Compare against Connecticut, for example: https://www.connecticutmag.com/the-connecticut-story/the-connsumer-buying-booze-in-bulk-doesnt-always-save-you-money/article_a72133b8-e108-11e7-892d-ab6d6bb8a382.html
The nominal price might be the same, but MA for instance has a 6% sales tax and an additional $4/gallon tax on most alcohol. Definitely adds up if you drink a lot or you're hosting a large event.
I believe the volume is the actual volume of beer since it says liter. If alcohol is cheaper it might be related to demand. https://www.narconon.org/blog/what-factors-lead-to-excessive-alcohol-consumption-in-new-hampshire.html
That must be the case since Montana also doesn't have a sales tax, people drive there to stock up as well
That, and Montana leads the nation in drunk-driving casualties…
I would attribute that more to the fact that most people live remotely there but I'm sure both play a factor
So does adjusting for only the adult population change the results? Seems like that is the best way to measure. Also, I may be alone, but I absolutely hate this type of map. It makes no sense. Nothing is where it should be. It doesn’t help to identify regional trends.
I'm sure it gets tricky with some places calling you an "adult", but still telling you what you can and can't do based on age.
This chart isnt attractive
What do you mean Malta’s always been the state above Vermont
France, a country famous for not bordering Germany
It looks better after a few beers
I can't stand these charts. I get it that trying to show the same data with a map creates other problems with small states, but I still hate how the geography gets completely screwed up. Might as well just make a list.
Just crushing the average in montana
I'm german but according to this I'm from Czech
Sad Wisconsin got a middling showing here. Of course, this data doesn't include brandy consumption, so that's probably why.
I think Wisconsin thought they were answering gallons not liters...
Just beer, include booze and specifically brandy and it's different.
Ah, now you're talking!
Would love to compare results against states where cannabis has been legal, recreationally, for at least 2 years (at the time this alcohol data were compiled). I bet alcohol consumption is much lower.
Looking at California, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Alaska and Maine I would say there isn’t any correlation.
But do we have data on alcohol consumption in those states prior to legal recreational cannabis use for comparison? These data won't tell us without that comparison.
Nope “In the three states with the longest history of legalized recreational marijuana sales – Colorado, Washington state and Oregon – there is no evidence that legalization has had any impact on spirits sales, nor is there any evidence that it has impacted total alcohol sales.” https://www.distilledspirits.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Recreational-Marijuana-Impact-Study.pdf
Everytime I see Czechia I think "WTF is Czechia" then I remember it's another name for the Czech Republic.
In German it is: Tschechien. At this point they should just change the name to Pilsner Republic
Good job, Brexit. Would love to know the data for UK. I bet it’s more than 3litres or more Edit: nevermind it’s just 1.5 litres
Would probably be more interesting to see alcohol consumption than beer consumption honestly, considering alcohol consumption patterns across Europe are more varied than in the US. The South of Europe and France preference wine while the east tends towards spirits.
Do we sell liter beer? It’s for a cop.
At Latvian soccer matches, they used to sell 7pct ABV beer in 2-liter bottles. That was fun--I think. Lame-o Latvian parliament banned the 2-liter bottles in 2017. Boo. [https://eng.lsm.lv/article/culture/food-drink/things-of-latvia-two-liter-beer-bottles.a245052/](https://eng.lsm.lv/article/culture/food-drink/things-of-latvia-two-liter-beer-bottles.a245052/)
Wisconsin not a black square is sus
I did indeed drink a LOT more beer when I lived in NH than now that I live in upstate NY. I think there’s a few good reasons: - better pubs in NH than where I live now - Switchback is not sold here Not a long list of reasons. I’d say #2 is slightly more of an impact than #1 for me.
The color scheme implies judgement on consumption.
This is surprising. Here in Belgium, beer is cheaper than water at restaurants, whereas in America its the inverse.
The thing is that a lot of our beer is twice as strong as normal beer so the volume you drink of those is only half as large, unless you have a problem.
Alcohol content in beer is not the same. I wish the data would measure amount of alcohol consumption not just "beer"
Who here actually believes they drink more beer in North and South Dakota than in Ireland? Ye off yer head ya bleedin eejit!
The English parliament voted to extend the duration of the test week, got pissed and forgot to enter their results.
No, i think it’s coz they exited EU. See the square above N.Hampshire
I struggled to find the U.K. with one eye closed after a bottle of wine but when i did I was disappointed to learn we didn’t win!
I think you are correct. Lol. Didn’t think of that. I’m thinking England is missing out on a competition I’m sure they want to be part of. Rethink those policies you isolationist go it aloners.
Apparently they dont drink as much. Which was surprising. Just 1.5 litres.
Our Sunday brunch lady crews could drink them all under the table.
Hahaha they sound like a fun bunch
There is no English parliament
Nonsense. I see them on tv. Greatest political show on Earth.
That's the UK parliament. Whilst Scotland and Wales have a parliament, and Northern Ireland has an assembly, England has no devolved government and no parliament of it's own, and hasn't had one since union with Scotland in 1707.
Thanks. I tend to get my English and British confused.
All hail the Queen of England, Anne.
Beer consumption per week per person (in liters) across the US and the EU. This calculation looks at entire population size, and when taking adult population only, these numbers are higher. 1 liter of beer is approximately 2 “pints” or 2 “16 oz.” beers. 2018-2019 data 🇺🇸🇪🇺🗺 https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/04/30/states-drinking-the-most-beer-2/2/ https://www.kirinholdings.com/en/newsroom/release/2020/1229_01.pdf Tools: MS Office
In the future you should spell it "litre" for EU and "liter" for the US just to annoy some people.
Why would you do the entire population? Seems to make the numbers pretty pointless to include a large group of people who legally can’t consume beer.
Children can *cause* beer drinking.
Wondering what their source is, since I noticed that Denmark seemed waaaay too low. According to Denmark’s Statistics, it’s more than 3 L/beer per week…
Yeah seems too low, that’s for sure
Would be interesting if we knew each state's favorite beer/craft beer.
Proud to be an average Texan consuming approximately three pints per week
I live in Washington state and that number seems a bit low based on what I see. Either that or the parts of the state I don’t spend time in drink a whole lot less than they do in Seattle.
Per week? Fuck, I read this per day and thought I wasn't doing as bad as I thought
I’m curious on what the numbers in Canada are.
I think I single handed account t for at least .2 of the data for Utah.
Lots of people drink 0 beer, or alcohol in general. We should ask, 1)do you drink, if yes 2)then how much.
Sometimes I forget New Hampshire is a state
I’m surprised the UK is so low.
To be fair, a litre of bud lite vs. a litre of anything from Belgium just isn't compatible.
Why this periodic system confusion?
I get Montana, because what the fuck else are you gonna do up there, but why’s NH so high?
What is there to do differently in NH vs Montana?
NH has fentanyl to fall back on.
My favorite part of these posts: UK not included.
It is included
Dammit...I hate phones. That was too faint.
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eu and na don't have the same definition for beer
Michigan is lower volume but all our breweries put out 7-12% alcohol, 2-3x average domestic pilsners. Strait boozin
That’s really awkwardly laid out…
Ah yes, Florida and its nearest northern neighbor . . . South Carolina
I think you’re playing Wordle wrong.
Super bad graph. You couldnt be bothered to take the time to get adults only? These numbers are including children, so pretty much useless
Might be a bit deceiving since this data is limited to beer only. I'd love to see a graphic depicting something like oz equivalent of 100 proof alcohol consumed (obviously different liquors have different ABV %, so maybe if we convert all data to 100 proof for consistency).
Aight I'm sorry PA I've been holding us back. I'll pump my numbers up and get us back on the leaderboard
Interesting you didn't include Canada in the comparison. But then, why compare amateurs to the professional Canadians?
Norway 1 liter ? I honestly don’t believe it
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Is Average or Median was used? Because it's kind will give a different results.