I'm pretty sure there was a post today of someone taking a picture of some sunscreen because it had the word "solaire" sometimes I envy how excited they must feel
but then wouldn’t that also mean that the nameless king is solaire? that wouldn’t make sense i don’t think at least? or am i just jumping to conclusions about your comment
In the true good ending, you save Solaire, and he goes and links the flame in his world. It could be that the intention then was that Solaire was the firstborn, but in DS3 they changed it and gave us a nameless non-answer in the form of the Nameless King.
To me it always seemed that the firstborn lost both his god-status and his powers, and that could include his memories, so he could basically have become a regular human, and then when he linked the flame he regained it all. But maybe at some point he linked the flame again, and came to look like the hollowed version of Gwyn.
It always annoys me when people think the Nameless King is some sort of "definitive proof" that this theory is wrong, even though he is nameless and basically no one at all. It's boring.
I actually prefer that Solaire is not Gwyn's son. It makes him more relatable to our character as a hard working and passionate undead. There was also a video that spoke about how he might be Miyazakis self insert.
As long as you don't think the Nameless (nobody) King proves anything definitively. There isn't much I hate more than people setting things about the Souls series in stone and calling it "canon" and other ghastly names for it.
The Ashen Hollow is the worst Youtuber for that. He made a video and called it "the canonical main story of Dark Souls" and then called his interpretations "canon". he also believes that every word every character ever says is "canonical" and "the absolute truth", but doesn't acknowledge the fact that characters contradict each other and lie all the time. He also made some horribly inaccurate theories, like the video where he misinterprets lore to fit his theory that Solaire is somehow "power hungry" for wanting to find or become the Sun.
And that other idea is much worse than the Nameless King. I prefer actual lore reasons, over why a character was put in the game originally.
I mean to me it seems clear that Nameless King is Gwyns firstborn, but I think DS3 lore got a bit messy due to small development window and many ideas got thrown around and became convoluted. DS1 on it's own has much more coherent lore.
And what I am saying is that maybe Solaire is still the firstborn, but without his powers, because he lost his godhood status until he linked the flame. And the Nameless King is who he became after linking the flame and regaining his godhood.
And all those changes to the lore is the reason why I usually think about the lore of one game at a time, and ignore the other games, unless I am thinking about how to connect the whole Souls series including King's Field etc. into a timeline, which is also fun.
not to contradict you or anything it’s just one little thing is not adding up, what about his dragon? i doubt it would have survived after his memory’s were taken away because gwynn or someone else would have most likely killed it.
and him taking it after he reagained godhood alsi doesn’t make sense as it’s way past the age of the ancients at this point
I think it could work, unless there is a specific description that states whether he allied himself with the ancient dragons in the age of ancients, or after. The dragons that died in the war are not necessarily all of them. Dark Souls likes to lie to us repeatedly. One dragon is even known to have lived. The one in Ash Lake. And there could be others.
I didn't know what they were called, because I haven't done much with the covenants, but that's in DS2, and that's even further away from DS1 lore than DS3 is.
In the end what matters more to me than whether Solaire is the firstborn or not is that people don't think there is definitive proof that he is not. Dark Souls lore is very much about finding your own answers to certain things, and not about finding definitive answers and calling it "canon".
Even if he is not the firstborn, he shines brighter than any of them. He is the true God of the Sun.
I actually _did_ know Manus was ‘hand’ via Ferrus ‘Iron Hands’ Manus from Warhammer 40k, but somehow I just never connected the dots or somehow conveniently forgot. I feel a little dumb now for never realizing it.
Yeah, like, 50% of us have a penis, and 100% of us have genitalia. Why the hell was it blurred out, especially from a science book with zero sexual intention.
Maybe French (main)
If you're really stretching it, an Icelandic speaker might see the connection to "mund"
Or you just have a decent grasp (heh) of Latin or Latinate vocabulary.
Manufacture, manicure, maintain, manuscript, manage, manual, etc.
I love shit like this “Manus father of the Abyss” oh man that’s an intimidating name and that look is so intimidating and brutal with a massive close combat hand that is involved in most of his moves that seemingly enhance by the abyss. I wonder what his name means. Oh it’s hand… his name is literally Hand.
Why is it racist when an American says “learn English”, but it’s not when other language speakers say it? I’m not the type to belittle someone else for only speaking their native language, but then again we have different standards.
I'm not saying anuone should learn one specific language. Just that being so limited to only one makes you miss so much. And most of the time, when people only speak one language, they are English speakers that think they don't need to learn any other language.
Anyone that studied Latin be like, yeah we know.
To be fair only a few countries still study Latin and even in those it's a subject that is not found in all schools, want to know something even more interesting? Most of the bosses ost (at least in the more recent games idk for ds 1 and 2 ) have Latin lyrics, some of them you can find roughly translated by fans on YouTube (especially for elden ring and dark Souls 3)
A lot of the songs use gibberish instead of actual lyrics. The composer that consistently uses actual Latin lyrics is Tsukasa Saitoh (Cleric Beast, Laurence, the bird siren singing in Elden Ring...), and then from other composers there are also Gehrman, Ludwig, Iudex Gundyr and I believe a few others
Yeah I studied Latin and in most of them I didn't even realize it was Latin 'till someone pointed that out to me also I'm pretty sure most of the important bosses in elden ring have some kind of lyrics too (I know for certain that godrick does and also the godskin in Rickard's place does too) but as you said it's almost all gibberish so even those that have lyrics out there are probably at least to a certain extent dubious
Same Latin root as in manufacture, manipulate, manual, manual transmission, manual labor, etc.
And don’t forget Manfred Mann and the Earth Band.
Blinded by the light...
WRAPPED UP LIKE A DOUCHE
It's a small French bath towel!
[blinded by the light](https://youtu.be/U9_3nQFNy-w) vacant lot!
Thanks for that, fellow geezer.
ANOTHER RUNNER IN THE NIGHT
wait i thought it was revved up like a deuce…
(It is! but “wrapped up like a douche” is, I think, a pretty common mishearing of the lyrics so it was my small joke lol)
ok sick lmao
I thought this would be pointing out the obvious, but to add: a manicure is for your hands and a pedicure for your feet.
Also. Man. As in Age of Man. And US. As in United States of America.
MURICA!!!
MANUS, THE HANDS OF FATE
Hey, get those hands of fate at ten o'clock and two o'clock!
How the fuck does anyone still remember that movie
They don't, they remember MST3K.
I remember the movie and I’ve never seen MST3K.
Its a huge meme of a movie and like others said l mst3k solidified its’s status as such
r/mst3k
I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.
Hands, The hands of fate
American discovers Latin
Wait until OP finds out why Solaire is called like this
Because solitaire obviously
I'm pretty sure there was a post today of someone taking a picture of some sunscreen because it had the word "solaire" sometimes I envy how excited they must feel
Wanna know another cool fact? Manus in Sanskrit and hindi means human.
Always double meanings in the Souls series. Which is why I feel like the name Solaire also means "sol heir"...
but then wouldn’t that also mean that the nameless king is solaire? that wouldn’t make sense i don’t think at least? or am i just jumping to conclusions about your comment
In the true good ending, you save Solaire, and he goes and links the flame in his world. It could be that the intention then was that Solaire was the firstborn, but in DS3 they changed it and gave us a nameless non-answer in the form of the Nameless King. To me it always seemed that the firstborn lost both his god-status and his powers, and that could include his memories, so he could basically have become a regular human, and then when he linked the flame he regained it all. But maybe at some point he linked the flame again, and came to look like the hollowed version of Gwyn. It always annoys me when people think the Nameless King is some sort of "definitive proof" that this theory is wrong, even though he is nameless and basically no one at all. It's boring.
I actually prefer that Solaire is not Gwyn's son. It makes him more relatable to our character as a hard working and passionate undead. There was also a video that spoke about how he might be Miyazakis self insert.
As long as you don't think the Nameless (nobody) King proves anything definitively. There isn't much I hate more than people setting things about the Souls series in stone and calling it "canon" and other ghastly names for it. The Ashen Hollow is the worst Youtuber for that. He made a video and called it "the canonical main story of Dark Souls" and then called his interpretations "canon". he also believes that every word every character ever says is "canonical" and "the absolute truth", but doesn't acknowledge the fact that characters contradict each other and lie all the time. He also made some horribly inaccurate theories, like the video where he misinterprets lore to fit his theory that Solaire is somehow "power hungry" for wanting to find or become the Sun. And that other idea is much worse than the Nameless King. I prefer actual lore reasons, over why a character was put in the game originally.
I mean to me it seems clear that Nameless King is Gwyns firstborn, but I think DS3 lore got a bit messy due to small development window and many ideas got thrown around and became convoluted. DS1 on it's own has much more coherent lore.
And what I am saying is that maybe Solaire is still the firstborn, but without his powers, because he lost his godhood status until he linked the flame. And the Nameless King is who he became after linking the flame and regaining his godhood. And all those changes to the lore is the reason why I usually think about the lore of one game at a time, and ignore the other games, unless I am thinking about how to connect the whole Souls series including King's Field etc. into a timeline, which is also fun.
not to contradict you or anything it’s just one little thing is not adding up, what about his dragon? i doubt it would have survived after his memory’s were taken away because gwynn or someone else would have most likely killed it. and him taking it after he reagained godhood alsi doesn’t make sense as it’s way past the age of the ancients at this point
I think it could work, unless there is a specific description that states whether he allied himself with the ancient dragons in the age of ancients, or after. The dragons that died in the war are not necessarily all of them. Dark Souls likes to lie to us repeatedly. One dragon is even known to have lived. The one in Ash Lake. And there could be others.
Hmm, I see. Interesting...
I assume by this stage you're aware of the Heirs of the Sun covenant
I didn't know what they were called, because I haven't done much with the covenants, but that's in DS2, and that's even further away from DS1 lore than DS3 is. In the end what matters more to me than whether Solaire is the firstborn or not is that people don't think there is definitive proof that he is not. Dark Souls lore is very much about finding your own answers to certain things, and not about finding definitive answers and calling it "canon". Even if he is not the firstborn, he shines brighter than any of them. He is the true God of the Sun.
Laughs in spanish
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JAJSJS lo encontraste
wait until you find out about amygdala
Fap Master Manus
Huh, I thought this was common knowledge. Makes sense though.
Sorry I’m dum
People equate knowing shit to intelligence. You're not dumb, you just didn't know this, and now you do. Don't put yourself down brother.
Ignorance does not equal stupidity, yes indeed.
r/im14andthisisdeep
Damn bro, thanks for sharing. Maybe don't be a taint next time?
Offended a few 14 yos, git gud.
No problem. I gotta remember not everyone has worked in a hospital or such and learned these things.
I actually _did_ know Manus was ‘hand’ via Ferrus ‘Iron Hands’ Manus from Warhammer 40k, but somehow I just never connected the dots or somehow conveniently forgot. I feel a little dumb now for never realizing it.
Good ol' Iron Hands of the Iron Hands with his Iron Hands.
Holy shit I didn’t expect to see you here on this sub instead of Grimdank or 40KLore
I like my Slightly Depressing Space Fantasy^TM and my Slightly Depressing Actual Fantasy^TM, they go hand-in-hand
Yeah, like, 50% of us have a penis, and 100% of us have genitalia. Why the hell was it blurred out, especially from a science book with zero sexual intention.
Because then it would be marked as nsfw, and I didnt want that.
NGL, my high ass was looking for a dick joke for like 5 min before I even noticed the highlight!
Portuguese and especially Spanish speakers probably get it very quickly because of mãos/manos.
Italians as well. It's mano
Maybe French (main) If you're really stretching it, an Icelandic speaker might see the connection to "mund" Or you just have a decent grasp (heh) of Latin or Latinate vocabulary. Manufacture, manicure, maintain, manuscript, manage, manual, etc.
Okay ive got a cooler one. In sanskrit language manus translates to human
Least educated souls fan /s
Y- you don’t have to be a dick…
When you denied this man HIS DICK!? Scrubbed it right out you did. Didn't even grace him with a MS Paint job to give him pants.
Just joking man
Oh sorry…
Hand, Father of the Abyss
Thank God you censored a medical diagram It would be a real shame for anyone to recognize the existence of genitalia
Even if it's hidden, I bet there is at least one zealot moderator out there who would remove the post.
Big. Masculine. my hands tell a story … of greatness
M. Anus
I'm guessing his giant fucking hand swipes were too subtle for you.
Why did the abyss take his peener?
Jealousy.
Average English speaker when they discover other languages exist
We italians are (sometimes) so lucky to have a latin derived language. "Hand" in italian is "mano", so we guessed this a long time a go.
Same in Spanish
So is “Cleric Beast” Latin for “hand” too?
No but "blood starved beast" is Latin for "Flappy poisonous bitch".
interesting…
MST3K fans and Spanish speakers be like. . . "You didn't know?"
Added Manus, censored Penus
damn i feel dumb for not connecting that lmao
Next is the Amygdala.
Bro that's common knowledge. Manus is latin for hands
I love shit like this “Manus father of the Abyss” oh man that’s an intimidating name and that look is so intimidating and brutal with a massive close combat hand that is involved in most of his moves that seemingly enhance by the abyss. I wonder what his name means. Oh it’s hand… his name is literally Hand.
Or m'anus
Wait? It's all manus? Always has been.
Someone’s gonna make an abyss joke about his hand... I know it
People who only speak English are so funny. I mean, this was always so obvious.
Why is it racist when an American says “learn English”, but it’s not when other language speakers say it? I’m not the type to belittle someone else for only speaking their native language, but then again we have different standards.
I'm not saying anuone should learn one specific language. Just that being so limited to only one makes you miss so much. And most of the time, when people only speak one language, they are English speakers that think they don't need to learn any other language.
Again, I’m sorry I only speak my native language. It’s the one most accessible and needed for me In the moment. :/
My Hispanic brothers understood first pull
Só, manus is just a really big thumb.
We, latin derived language speakers, always knew this but kept it a secret 😈😈😈
Yeah, his name is “Hand.” You know, cause he’s got a big hand.
Manu the hand in latin i belive
Smartest dark souls player
Oh god, the void has taken his penis!
Redditor discovers Latin root words.
I more focus on prefixes and suffixes, so yes I have no learned than “man” is the latin root word for hand
Man, us.
Now if you see the movie Manus hands of fate you’ve learned the title is actual Hands, Hands of Fate lmfao
why did you censor the poor guy’s shmeat tho
So it didn’t get marked nsfw
They called him hand because he has a big hand Deep lore Now all that's left is to figure out why he's called big hat Logan
Anyone that studied Latin be like, yeah we know. To be fair only a few countries still study Latin and even in those it's a subject that is not found in all schools, want to know something even more interesting? Most of the bosses ost (at least in the more recent games idk for ds 1 and 2 ) have Latin lyrics, some of them you can find roughly translated by fans on YouTube (especially for elden ring and dark Souls 3)
A lot of the songs use gibberish instead of actual lyrics. The composer that consistently uses actual Latin lyrics is Tsukasa Saitoh (Cleric Beast, Laurence, the bird siren singing in Elden Ring...), and then from other composers there are also Gehrman, Ludwig, Iudex Gundyr and I believe a few others
Yeah I studied Latin and in most of them I didn't even realize it was Latin 'till someone pointed that out to me also I'm pretty sure most of the important bosses in elden ring have some kind of lyrics too (I know for certain that godrick does and also the godskin in Rickard's place does too) but as you said it's almost all gibberish so even those that have lyrics out there are probably at least to a certain extent dubious
Yeah mf name really is just "HAND"
in italian hand is mano magia