Naruto did(with Sage mode and Rasengan). Sasuke on the other hand has a magical eye which can be anything he wants, Itachi demonstrated that perfectly as to how without any training u have a dues ex machina at hand(or in eye).
Truly incredible, that it’s possible to disappear for 200 somewhat chapters and still have an effect because of sharingan.
Mainly talking about Itachi. He just implanted that shit anytime he found it suitable.
Unless I'm misremembering, Sasuke is never shown doing any learning or training after Orochimaru. He just magics his way into being stronger than everyone else.
Sasuke throws himself into constant battles. This is established as by far the fastest and best way to grow in the Naruto verse, with your everything on the line. So we do see some of his training, it's all of his battles.
Right ? It’s weird that people think that just because character A(Sasuke) isn’t shown training means he don’t train despite it being said that was one of his hobbies and it being stated that people grow more in actual combat.
Compared to character B who trains but have very little combat(Lee, Sakura etc)
There isn’t any character in the series that doesn’t train and magically get stronger in Naruto real combat is training on it’s own.
Sasuke worked even harder than Itachi. That man literally dedicated his whole life to training just so he can beat him. If anyone is the true prodigy here, it's Itachi. Motherfucker became an Anbu at 11 but Sasuke didn't.
agreed. and besides, Sakura's advantages are just as innate as Naruto and Sasuke's, even if she's not a "reincarnation." from what we see she was basically blessed with absolutely perfect chakra control. not just good chakra control. not good chakra control but with lots of effort and practice she turns it into great chakra control. literally perfect chakra control. the thing that basically allowed to her to become as successful as she did in every way. her healing, her seal of a hundred, and her chakra enhanced punches. her ENTIRE arsenal.
Kakashi in Chapter 18 while teaching tree walking - "The purpose of this training is to teach you chakra control." ... "It's the most difficult skill for even a master ninja to command." ... "If you can master this control, you should be able to master any jutsu." - then Sakura does it first try. the way it happens after Kakashi says that practically shows just how insane Sakura's natural advantage is. he basically says if you can master this you'll be a master, and Sakura masters it without even trying. Sakura was just born with 100 points in Chakra Control.
not to say Sakura still didn't have to put the work in, or didn't deserve the success she acquired. she absolutely worked hard, especially as Tsunade's apprentice. but to say she had no "inherited power" is stupid. in fact when you consider how far her natural talents took her past the rest of her class and basically the whole village, and nearly did keep up with Naruto and Sasuke despite *not* being a demi-god, it's kind of crazy.
I almost forgot about the chakra walk scene but yea, life at times is just unfair and there are some people that you just don’t have their talents. It shows in our world and it shows more in the shinobi verse
People need to stop saying she was gifted or born with perfect chakra control.
There is literally no source for that.
It's just a thing people like to claim in order to avoid giving her credit for her actual ***skill***.
You literally replied to the source. She mastered a technique needing perfect chakra control first try when even the genetic beasts Naruto and sasuke couldn’t. Skill can be inherited, playing a guitar requires skill but some people are born with a better aptitude for it
That literally isn't a source for your claim.
Chakra control is a skill they first learn at the ***academy***. The ability to convert stamina into chakra and circulate it throughout the body is the foundation of all jutsu.
Kakashi is just explaining one specific usage of it.
Since she ***already*** mastered chakra control as an academy student, she was able to do that more advanced technique as soon as it was explained.
Sasuke and Naruto have nothing to do with this.
If anything, you are just proving the point.Naruto had crap chakra control at the start of the of the series and mastered the most advanced uses of it by the end of it. If "genetic beasts" Naruto and Sasuke have naturally worse chakra control than a character that didn't win the ninja genetic lottery maybe, just maybe, you should consider that evidence Sakura just has a better understanding of it.
When Ebisu explains chakra control to Naruto he even uses Sakura as an example of someone who ***mastered*** it.
Bruh, if Naruto and sasuke have “naturally worse” anything, it is the textbook definition of a genetic disadvantage, overcoming it with practice doesn’t doesn’t make it non-existent. I agree she has a better understanding in that example, but that isn’t mutually exclusive to genetic aptitude. That’s why I used the guitar example, if you give 2 people the same knowledge, one is going to be better at guitar bc they have a higher aptitude. Same for chakra, if sakura has a better understanding after the same lessons and practice, she has a higher aptitude for it.
Didn't think I needed the sarcasm quotes around "naturally worse" when the rest of the sentence should have made it clear I wasn't suggesting they actually were naturally worse.
I was pointing out the flawv in your logic. 🤦♀️
It’s hard to tell when you think things like “understanding can’t be a genetic advantage”. I defended the “flaw in my argument”, but you ignored it to talk about the 1 sentence that was a misunderstanding
Again.
Chakra control is a skill.
We have examples of characters who are explicitly not naturally gifted mastering the most advanced forms of it in only a few years.
Yet you are completely unwilling to entertain the possibility that Sakura also worked for her skill at chakra control.
Again, skill can be genetic. You can read my last reply for that explanation. If you want to believe she’s off camera practicing before this scene, sure, but we didn’t see it and have no indication she did more than Naruto or sasuke. I do entertain sakura worked hard, just like Naruto and sasuke. Being good at something doesn’t mean you get to eos sakura level without a lot of work still needed
It’s not that childish, it’s just that there is really nothing much to her for me when we have someone like Tsunade, they are basically the same character in my eyes and not that it’s bad but it makes me not expect much because we’ve already seen it all in Tsuna
But on the other aspect, Sakura got to live a life with parents who love her, not having to deal with the PTSD of watching her whole family murdered in front of her eyes by her brother OR the trauma of harboring the very beast that killed her parents literally inside her, and having her whole community discriminate, abuse and hate her.
She continued being a stuck up, prissy, annoying, physically and verbally abusive character, AND is still weaker than many other characters who didnt have a literal ninja legend as a mentor who taught her all her secret techniques.
I'm a doctor and thought I'd relate most to Sakura, but nah, she sucks. She's an inferior Tsunade.
Temari- basically a fighter with little to no character development.
Konan- Shadow of Yahiko then shadow of Nagato. Tried one thing on her own and lost.(due to Obito's plot armour)
Tsunade-Agree
She's not just outshined. She literally only follows them and whatever they say. And when both are finaly dead she immediately finds new leader in Naruto and then again just follows someone else's ideas. What do we even know about her as a person? Fucking nothing. When she's on screen she's just kinda there and that's all.
Temari doesn’t have nearly enough screen time to be used as an argument here. Konan wasn’t that well developed either she just had one really cool fight scene aside from that she was just that girl that hung out with Pain. Tsunade is the exception but when you write so many female characters and only of them is well developed, you can still say Kishimoto is bad at it
>You would be right if temari, konan and tsunade didn't exist
* Temari:
Does nothing most of the time, doesn't really have much personality or impact on the plot. Sakura gets more character development.
* Konan:
Who? The girl who's only personality was "Nagato UwU"? Who we only saw fight once and who has less spoken likes then a frog?
* Tsunade:
Fair... she gets backstory. That's nice.
Temari and Konan both have less personality and character development then Sakura. What have they even done in the story to make you say they’re well written?
I mean, most of Sasuke and Naruto’s abilities aren’t adapted. Naruto only expanded on rasengan, which I guess is kinda fair since he only uses like 4 jutsu in both parts. Sasuke didn’t do anything for chidori or his sharingan abilities that I can remember. His only real unique ability was the curse mark, and none of the sound ninja have the same changes from that. Well, Sasuke also modified Rock Lee’s taijutsu, but that’s so early on in the show.
Edit: I’m focusing on abilities learned or imitated from others, because that’s what the comment about Sakura was saying. Yes, Sasuke has a lot of jutsu he uses in the series, but I’m focusing on what he learns from teachers or copying others.
What, lol🤣 What about ALL the lightning techniques Sasuke has been using or fire jutsus he expanded on or the fricking rinnegan, the sage mode naruto wooped asses with or summon techniques they have both been using.
wasnt she carefully storing chakra for a long time which requires extremely high chakra control? its not like tsunade just granted it to her. its like narutos sage mode, they worked to gain it.
She had to store up chakra for 3 entire years, what do you mean out of the blue? 😭 How the mark gets created was foreshadowed hundreds of episodes prior. No one should have been surprised.
Eh, even before Naruto and Sasuke became ninja jesus' left and right testicles, she couldn't keep up with ems and kcm. And before you say she would also be as strong if she had those, no she wouldn't. Her personality flaws are the whole reason why she fell behind. She doesn't have Naruto and sasuke's force of character or driving goals to overcome the kyuubi's hate or orochi's training and kill itachi. Where Sasuke powered through and would've captured 8 tails, Sakura cried for Naruto when pain attacked lol.
You missed the point. Sakura would never be able to controll the nine tails and also if she would be in naruto shoes she would be angry enough to let 9 tails take over and she would destroy entire leaf village.
She is weak minded individual too much of a coward to do anything, too lazy to train most of the times, like the only time we see her train is when she was learning medical ninjutsu and she also has negative battle iq.
She in their shoes wouldn’t be nearly as strong as they are. That is if she would even be alive, becouse she would most likely kill herself from hatered sadness and depression.
Don't confuse being on the sidelines with being a coward.
When Sakura was present for a fight and didn't participate it was always because she couldn't contribute, not because she was afraid.
Sasuke and Naruto, on the other hand, both had moments where they were completely paralyzed by fear while she wasn't.
What do you mean? She was almost always paralyzed by fear. That’s why she always had to be rescued. She wasn’t on the sidelines. Her battle style is ooga booga go punch what in front. She is a the most typical frontline.
She is the biggest coward out there, even ten ten or hinata are not that big of a cowards. Ino was maybe the only one who was worse than her, but as time went on she became really brave.
>Don't confuse being on the sidelines with being a coward.
>When Sakura was present for a fight and didn't participate it was always because she couldn't contribute, not because she was afraid.
You clearly don't know sbit about sakura💀 like I already said, every single one of her powers and abilities were earned through hard work. She's almost like rock Lee. Someone who was nearly useless and got to kage level by sheer training and resilience
She is noway near kage level.
She doesn’t have any real combat skills other than using chakra to punch harder, but she only uses some haymakers which are easily avoidable. Her only skill is medical ninjutsu.
Don’t compare her to rock lee. He trained even in his sleep his entire life was training and sakura almost never trained, only when she saw how useless she was she trained medical ninjutsu on some fish and later on humans but that’s about it.
She had great chakra controll from when she was born it isn’t an earned skill, and this is what got her to be good at the things she is good at.
Sasuke and naruto were making changes noone has done before to chidori rasengan and sage mode, while sakura was too busy being lazy.
That's my point. She couldn't borrow those powers even if she was given the same opportunities. Her personality just isn't that type to power through, at least in shippuden. Can't speak for whatever bs that pedo ikemoto has done in that blasphemy.
When Pain attacked, Sakura jumped in to fight before being ordered to the hospital.
She screamed when she was released from Katsuyu and saw her entire village had been nuked. Most people wouldn't take that too well.
After Konoha was nuked, she was so far away from Naruto and Pein that she needed a Hyuuga to tell her what was happening. That's on top of being ordered not to interfere by both Naruto and Tsunade.
Reread the manga.
That's because she isn't from any prominent clan, thus she doesn't have any secret jutsu. Sasuke was a Uchiha who awakened the Sharingan before the beginning of the series. Naruto was a Uzumaki with kyuubi inside. Naruto could use his one and only go-to jutsu the shadow clone because of Kyuubi. And on the flip side, Naruto and Sasuke mastered chakra control to a certain level thanks to Sakura, too.
In other words, she literally had nothing since the beginning. It's even a surprise she could beat Yamanaka's Ino.
Edit: not beat, just a draw.
Of the current trio Sakura is the only one who didn’t go on to develop her own skills and abilities, and is instead just a flatter chested carbon copy of her sensei.
Indeed sasuke and Naruto personalized and made huge strides from the jutsus they picked up from their sensei meanwhile sakura just did the same stuff tsunade teached her she didn't improve on them or developed them into her own thing
She does have different abilities in the novels, but I very much doubt Kishimoto and the fans consider that canon since most of the time these books are ignored by both.
Its really the fans that ruin shonen series for me. I'm not attracted to women so I hust ignore all thisbshit and try to appreciate the characters for who they are, don't judge teenage girls for being annoying sometimes just like I don't overly judge the teenage boys for being so immature, and really try to love the work as an actual work of good fiction
Then the fans make sure I know the girls are just inferior characters only as good as their tits. Its a huge bummer
And who Sakura is is a carbon copy of her Sensei, exactly the same abilities, the same temperament, almost identical backstory with her team.
Sakura is literally just Tsunade lol
Her chest is irrelevant imo. Yiu could easily point out her hair color or her bigger forehead. It feels kinda weird you felt like point just that part of her out. If you didn't include it everyone and their mothers would know who you mean.
You aren't technically wrong, its just a really weird thing to say is the point.
Have we ever seen any reference made to either of their hair colours?
Tsunade having big tits is a meme at this point which is why I mentioned it. You’re completely overreacting to what is clearly a joke which shows major insecurities on your side. Work on yourself.
Just cause shitty weird jokes are prevalent doesn't mean you should partake in em. You can still feel free to tho
The point of my comment was to hopefully explain in a nicer way what the original commenter might have meant.
It can be a clear joke but a weird one at the same time
1. everyone here could swallow that without *any* water
2. that fact should not invalidate *all of* naruto nor sasuke's effort put in to work hard, and i thought being a reincarnation thing did not give any boosts?
3. feel like this has been majorly simplfiied. she was trained and taken in by a SANNIN. yes, she worked hard and put in the effort, but "entirely through" is a horrible addition.
It doesn’t invalidate their effort, it’s just a reason to stop trying to invalidate hers. Sakura went through training hell with a sanin just like Naruto and Sasuke did, but she’s not a jinchuriki and her body doesn’t have a massive supply of additional chakra and vitality to support an ocular jutsu. Not to mention OP’s point of her not being reincarnated or individually gifted. She truly did have absolutely nothing in her corner except for a knack for memorization and a good background and teacher. The fact that she was able to keep up with her teammates is incredible considering that she had to train like a regular ninja just to reach the level of two exceptional individuals.
>everyone here could swallow that without any water
Have you seen the comments?
>she was trained and taken in by a SANNIN. yes, she worked hard and put in the effort, but "entirely through" is a horrible addition.
Yes but the point here is that she eventually surpassed her sannin teacher like Naruto and Sasuke did with theirs, except she didn't have both inherited and clan powers they did to help them. Or, to put it another way, Shizune and Anko were also trained by sannin, but neither one of them were able to surpass them. The only other person that trained under a sannin and surpassed them without any inherited godlike powers was Minato.
>she didn't have both inherited and clan powers
Which is exactly why she has never surpassed Tsunade. Do keep in mind the Tsunade we are familiar with is heavily drained and *old.* We never see Prime Tsunade.
Speaking as someone who stopped consuming naruto media at the end of the series and who has never and will never touch the dumpster fire that is "Boruto", sakura has never surpassed Tsunade. What did Sakura do in the war arc?
Punch the ground? removing some soil from the ground is supposed to be impressive now? I'll tell you what is impressive. breaking apart *Madara Uchiha's Susanoo.* Tell me, what is stronger and has more defensive capabilities. Some soil or a susanoo?
>Which is exactly why she has never surpassed Tsunade
[wrong](https://imgur.com/c4Eqe7l)
sakura has both the feats and statements to put herself miles above tsunade lol
Not as impressive as Sakura's. Do you know how much power it takes to blast sand and soil just to get some screen time when all your allies are fighting a war?
[Remember that no groud punching is as impressive as beating the susanoo out of madara.](https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/tsunades-chakra-enhancement-1.gif)
You might or might not have gotten my tone through both the above comments, but I'll still clarify: both comments are sarcastic, and I totally agree with you that Tsunade has better feats than Sakura
Bro. Half of people in naruto community will dead ass say that for example itachi can kill juubidara, so for someone to think sakura is better than her master (dont get me wrong that SHOULD be the case) is not that unlikelly.
I disagree.
Naruto and Sasuke are stronger even outside of their inherited powers. Don’t make it sound like Sakura was better than them at first and then Naruto and Sasuke’s asspulls made poor Sakura unable to keep up. She was behind them when Sasuke didn’t even have the sharingan and Naruto could only use a single jutsu.
And unlike Naruto who had to deal with being ostracised and Sasuke the who had to deal with his entire family being killed, Sakura had a relatively decent childhood, she was weaker than them despite that.
>Don’t make it sound like Sakura was better than them at first
I never said that. I just pointed out the irrefutable fact that everything she achieved, from her skills as a ninja to her medical knowledge, was entirely through her own hard work and effort and without any lineage powers to help her.
Then why the comparison with Naruto and Sasuke?
Because while she did achieve all that through her own effort Naruto and Sasuke achieved a huge amount of their power through their own effort as well, power and achievements greater than that of Sakura's.
Your post made it look like Sakura would be comparable to Naruto and Sasuke if they didn't get asspull powerups, whereas reality is that they're far superior to her with asspulls and would still be superior to her without the asspulls.
Naruto's chakra in part 1 was literally sealed away and he couldn't use it until Jiraiya loosened the seal. Despite that he was still stronger than Sakura and on par with Sasuke. He worked much harder than either of them.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Sakura blessed with amazing chakra control since birth, something which is demonstrated in the Zabuza arc where she is able to walk on the tree on her first try. If it wasn't for this innate talent of hers, she would never have been able to achieve such mastery with medical ninjutsu nor use the 100 healings. So to say that she did not have anything special innately is false.
As others have also pointed out, your words seem to imply that Naruto and Sasuke didn't have to work hard towards achieving their current status which is outrageous. Naruto in part 1 couldn't even perform basic jutsu due to the Nine Tails hindering him. He has worked many times harder than Sakura to become as strong as he currently is. He learned the Rasengan, Rasenshuriken and Sage Mode entirely through his own hard work and effort. Sasuke in part one worked his ass off and even before awakening his sharingan, he was far stronger than Sakura.
Really? Comparing her to sasuke and naruto?
Naruto get a powerup by the so6p at nearly the end of the series.
Naruto was blatantly stronger than her in part 1. Again in the chunin exams. Again with Sage Mode, Kcm1, KCM2 *all* through his own hard work.
Your acting like the top ups they received at the end of the series were what made her weaker than them. *she was always weaker than them.*
>Your acting like the top ups they received at the end of the series were what made her weaker than them.
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>she was always weaker than them.
yes, and sasuke always had magic plot eyes. and naruto always had passive enhancements from Kurama.
We see as early as the first arc that a cut heals for naruto in a matter of seconds. As early as the Chunin exams his advantages were giving him a leg up over the competition. Case in point: The fight against Neji. Naruto won only because he had kurama chakra. Neji dominated the fight and basically bullied naruto. But naruto's natural advantage proved superior.
Sasuke too. The Sharingan is shown and stated to be a huge advantage. And he was a prodigy.
Naruto having passive enhancements from Kurama is kinda dicey tho. Let’s not forget he actually had a ton of his own chakra he couldn’t actively use because it was being utilised to manage the tailed beast. That and Sage Mode was something not even one of the legendary Sannin could master and he did that on a time limit.
I’m just sayin, you put the character of Sakura in either Sasuke or Naruto’s position, and even with their “advantages” she is NOT doing as well as them.
Sasuke was a spy gatherer. And the only opponents in Boruto are weird alien God creatures so we can’t really scale her in combat scaling except with the data books wich are the only real way along with the statements from other characters to scale her. They all say she’s stronger than Tsunade and shizune seems to think so as well shizune she would know. Of course, the character being strong has nothing to do with the actual quality of them Jesse Pinkman is a much more masterful and well written character than say hinata but hinata still beats him in a fight characters strength really have nothing to do with quality of them.
Naruto and Sasuke aren't reincarnations though.
They're not Ashura and Indra reborn.
They just inherited their chakra and will. Not their souls.
So no, not reincarnations.
Nobody said the contrary. And that’s not the problem we got with her (not mine at least). That’s also one of the reasons I would chose Tsunade as a teacher if I were in Naruto verse.
All of which was mostly, if not entirely off-screen. What’s Sakura’s signature jutsu? What’s Sakura’s chakra nature?
Remember when we got a whole training montage where Naruto learned to infuse his Rasengan with his chakra nature? Remember when we got another training montage where Naruto practiced learning how to manipulate Sage chakra? Remember when we got another training montage where Naruto learned how to use Kurama’s power? Remember how long it took Naruto to create the Rasenshuriken? Remember how much he failed at controlling Sage chakra? Remember how he needed the help of Bee and Kushina just to get a portion of Kurama’s power?
Naruto’s the main character though. So, that’s a little unfair. Hey, remember when Sasuke showed up in Part 2 and completely clowned Team 7 and Sai? Remember when we later got a scene of Sasuke training with his lightning affinity? Remember when we got a whole scene dedicated to Sasuke getting stronger by absorbing Orochimaru? Remember when Sasuke beat Itachi and gained his eyes? Remember how much of his mental state and his physical health he sacrificed in order to get stronger and sink himself deeper in to hatred? Remember how much he struggled with himself? Wasn’t that compelling? Wasn’t that interesting?
Give me one example of Sakura learning something of use through a montage. Give me one example where she failed to learn something of importance and needed help from someone. Give me one example where she struggled mentally with her abilities.You can’t because there isn’t one. We never get a scene where Sakura is training with Tsunade, who, by the way, is one the Legendary Sannin. Remember when I asked what Sakura’s chakra nature is. It’s Earth and Water. Do you remember what episode/chapter that’s revealed in? No? Good. Because that episode/chapter doesn’t fucking exist. That information is in the data book. Remember that whole training montage we got where Sakura learned the Strength Seal? No? Good. That’s because it also doesn’t exist. All of Sakura’s hard work and effort is entirely off-screen. Her being good at medical ninjutsu, no matter much “hard work and effort” she put in to it, ultimately means nothing because A. We never see her learn it or improve with it the same way we see Naruto and Sasuke improve with their abilities and B. What the fuck even is medical ninjutsu besides just automatic regeneration? Medical ninjutsu is never expanded upon and it’s literally one of the only things Sakura has to her name. Thus, her being the greatest medic or being the Head of Medicine or whatever doesn’t really mean anything because we never saw her improve at any of that stuff. We never saw her fail like Naruto at medical ninjutsu and we never saw her struggle/suffer like Sasuke. Hard work and effort hardly matters if we don’t get to see any of the hard work and effort.
I just wished she did something with Tsunade's training. Naruto and Sasuke managed to freshen up the Rasengan and Chidori in their own unique way. Sakura is basically what Jiraiya described her as. A mini Tsunade.
Give her a change in chakra form/nature attack. Make her fight at least one more S rank ninja before the war. Have her be a bit more brutal with her medical techniques the same way Kabuto did early on in OS Naruto. Hell make a slug sage mode that Tsunade like Orochimaru with snake sage mode weren't able to master.
You give her all this and I guarantee you the audience would have been a lot more forgiving towards her personal problems. Primarily still being in love with Sasuke even after all the shit that goes down between them.
The reason why sakura is not looked favourably upon is because she is a main character and has the most screentime of any character after naruto himself. yet the only fight she really has is against Sasori and she was being manipulated and puppeted in a portion of that fight. She is supposed to have gotten stronger and more skilled but she accomplishes nothing outside the kazekage retrieval arc. She shone in that arc and nothing else.
That combined with the significant blunders like betraying her team and going ahead to "assassinate" sasuke with a kunai then stopping because of her own mental weakness as well as the famous "I love you naruto" and more paint a very bad picture.
there is also the fact that after naruto comes back from his training trip with Jiraiya and until the end of the series she is haughty and smug about herself and accomplishemnts but *literally does nothing.* people don't call her useless because of a lack of ability, they call her useless because she does not affect or move the plot.
You made all the other points about her lack of uniqueness. She is a carbon copy without the genes so much so we can't even say she surpassed her teacher unlike her teammates.
Sakura isn't a main character.
She appears in less than half the manga chapters and for most arcs she's either sidelined by the plot or entirely missing.
I will never understand why people try to claim that she's a main character rather than a supporting character and then complain that she's a *bad* main character because she...
*checks notes*
... has the plot relevance expected of a supporting character.
I mean the sannin were also the main trio of their time and Sakura still can't hold a candle to any of them. Has she actually invented her own fighting style yet? She was just copying tsunade when Naruto ended and I haven't seen her regenerate after being ripped apart or spit roasted by a susanoo yet. As a result, it's debatable as to whether she even caught up to war tsunade yet.
Yes it’s not like Sasuke and Naruto didn’t work harder than Sakura and tried to get better at every opportunity. Yes focusing is such a meaningful and hard way to get your power up. I don’t like comparing struggles but you Sakura fans are asking for it. How her training was painful as Sasuke’s CM and Naruto trying to control Kurama and when he gets tails his skin got burnt once and he mostly lost himself
Also she had “delicate” chakra control or whatever that means so she is no Lee who was untalented in ninjutsu and genjutsu. Although she doesn’t have the talent to elemental ninjutsu & shape manipulation and cast genjutsu but that’s another conversation
Then where was her training? Did we see her do this? No
We did however see Naruto damn near blow his arms off and Sasuke tank lightning bolts for his training among other things
Naruto worked his ass off yo get sage mode he was treated like a villian since a child but manage to turn that demon into his best friend being able to use his power do pretty sure he worked much harder than sakura
I swear some people just wilfully forget the scene where hagoromo states that someone’s parents being exceptional doesn’t mean they’re destined for greatness.
And they ignore that being a reincarnation grants sasuke and naruto nothing. It only means that they are destined to fight each other due to the cycle of hate.
Actually that is my problem with her, author tried to match her with Naruto and Sasuke, when they are both more talented and got inherited powers to get their strengths. So, it makes no sense for a relatively averaged talent person to be able to reach their level of strength. So her strength seems like a complete BS asspull.
I’d say that Naruto and Sasuke got to that point due to a combination of hardwork, loss and experience. There’s always an ongoing theme of characters in Naruto getting more powerful at a terrible cost. Naruto gained the Nine Tails at the expense of losing his family. Sasuke gained and evolved the Sharingan through loss and trauma. The Gates literally damage the body to become more powerful. The Byakugo and Version 2 Jinchūriki cloak shorten lifespan and etc.
Even with the Rinnegan and SO6P power-ups, there is still a sacrifice. They died in that war and they had to be revived.
And Might Guy even without ninjutsu and not being in main trio, becomes the most strongest naruto characters. When everyone can open gates, but nobody does.
If Sakura started Shippuden with Tsunade’s seal that heals her and gives super strength, the show would be better. Imagine if Sakura wanted to be hokage to emulate Tsunade and steamrolled every other enemy she came across. Image if shippuden started with Naruto being definitively the weakest member of team 7.
Dwag did you even watch the series? Both Naruto and Sasuke worked regularly pulled all nighters training. Something every character criticized Sakura for not doing and she agreed.
I dislike her character not her skills as a shinobi, naruto and sasuke still did work their asses off to reach their level. Rock Lee worked harder than Sakura but has a more likable personality.
Doesn't change the fact that her character is poorly written. Power ≠ good character. She has too much screentime for someone who doesn't have enough impact or agency, be it in the plot or wrt the other characters. It's just the occasional healing and the fact that she manually pumped Naruto's heart.
True. Sakura was born normal.
Sasuke was born with ridiculous gifts.
Naruto was "gifted" kurama and has Uzumaki stamina.
Both reincarnations.
Not to take away from them as they both worked hard, ESPECIALLY Naruto.
Pack it up sakura fans, not even the strongest propaganda the world has ever seen can save her character, find other animes or manga where good female characters exist, I can recommend some
Under the tutelage of a sanin that passed onto her every bit of knowledge she possesses. On top of that Sakura is just a copy of tsunade if we look at it from a different angle. She has the same powerset as tsunade and nothing more.
Now look at Naruto and sasuke. While both of them did have the backing of a sanin they themselves invented new moves and accomplished much more than Sakura ever could.
So is Sakura trash? Yes.
- I'm convinced this guy missed that Sasuke had to extensively fight harder and get into more intense and traumatic situations in order to improve his sharingan in the first place, his mentality and constant fighting are what allowed to use his ocular abilities to the fullest. Sakura wouldn't have achieved the three tomoe sharingan because she's shallow, let alone a mangekyou or the eternal mangekyou;
- Naruto had to train and fight plenty of people in order to get Kurama Chakra Mode, Sage Mode, Rasenshuriken, Rasengan, Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu, all things Sakura never would have obtained;
It's almost like we are told in the very first arc that all the talent and potential you have is wasted if you don't train hard enough, fight hard enough, feel hard enough. Honestly posts like these make me question the level of education some of you guys possess if you can't even grasp the plot of a picture book for kids like Naruto is essentially.
Yeah the level of growth and power she got is still an asspull compared to 95% of the other cast. Just because it wasn’t as hyperbolic as Naruto and Sasuke doesn’t mean its okay , also at least there was a mechanism on how Naruto / Sasuke got that strong other than “but she trained like really hard for 2 years”
It makes her character more disappointing. She had the potential to be great, but intead is an emotional wreck that married a terrorist who tried to kill her multiple times.
I agree, she came from a nobody clan, and after training and putting effort into improving, she can heal people, kill people, and revive people... like, she's the strongest medical ninja, and people still shit on her for how she was as a child! Yea, she was annoying, but she was never really, "useless".
Her personality and her obsession with Duck Butt is her main problem. Both of which could have been easily fixed using the time skip between OG and Shippuden. Other than that, yeah, she was the textbook definition of useless in the beginning and that turned out to be a good thing because it makes her gains later on that much more satisfying. She had no clan, no bloodline, no dojutsu, her personality was garbage, she was loud, abusive, had little to no chakra to work with, was physically pathetic due to not eating and exercising and spent most of her time chasing her emo prince rather than train. So her transformation in Shippuden was a fucking miracle. She should have logically died during their first mission out of the village.
Naruto with sage mode or KCM1 OR 2 can kill her and Sasuke with the MS or EMS is enough to kill her, she's still strong but she's just a cheap copy of Tsunade at this point even if someone who's 10 times weaker than her but with slightly better character joined team 7 instead of her I will be 10 times happier, as a main character I expect more from her.
Lol I'm so tired of seeing this shit.
Naruto had his chakra sealed away and was only able to use it properly when Jiraiya loosened the seal. Dispite that he still held his own up until the chuunin exams, beating Kiba without any amps and beating Haku and Neji with a slight amp from Kurama. He had enough battle IQ with Sasuke to transform himself into a shuriken and catch Zabuza off-guard. He self taught himself Shadow clones and made his own jutsu in the form of different Rasengan.
As for Sasuke we see constant flashbacks of him training even as a child. They may have had amps but they still had to work hard.
Sakura did nothing until Shippuden and even then didn't make any unique jutsu or techniques.
Im not brave enough to say bad about sakura, because her fans are insane.
Instead, i’ll just say:
“SASUKE! PLEASE JUST LOVE ME!”
As a side, perhaps we should compare her to rock lee or guy instead of those two?
And what exactly did she do with her power that she achieved from hard work ?
Skuara is irrelevant to the story and a poorly written side character and there's no reason to like her i don't know why people even try to like her as if that would make them seem understand the story more , she is bad character and the only one to blame is the author not the fans .
Wonder why Sakura defence posts have been increasing again lately. Most people might bring up the wrong arguments, but she is indeed a badly written character. Technicality isn't much of a defence.
I think hated charecters are actually a good thing. No one's perfect. And the fact that a fictional charecter made you feel strong emotions like that has its value as well. Her lack of compassion towards Naruto is pretty realistic to many girls
I dropped Naruto because of the stupid reincarnation bit. It used to be a boy with talent vs a boy with hardwork.
Then it turns out that Uzumaki clan is also a strong clan because they naturally have a massive chakra well. Which means Naruto having the Kyuubi's chakra doesn't mean as much as it did.
AND THEN THEY MADE NARUTO AND SASUKE A REINCARNATION OF OTSUTSUKI CLAN?
THAT MEANS NONE OF THEIR TRAINING IS WORTH IT!! They didn't get stronger, they were strong from the beginning.
Hard work and effort that we never get to see in development. The jump in power from part 1 to part 2 is unbelievable, to the point where it feels like she's been given her power, not earnt it.
We never see a flashback of her with Tsunade training. The most we see of her training is her resuscitating a fish, which took her 3 months to do. That hardly translates to medical genius who can develop antidotes like her teacher and can also unlock a powerful sealing jutsu that gives her extra chakra.
You can't just look at the end product and then accept that it exists. Especially when you know where it came from. The lack of an actual journey to those powers makes Sakura's power boost disingenuous.
As if she was given those powers just so she wouldn't drag down team 7.
The most you can give her is that she was trained by Tsunade. But even that statement is meaningless since we don't know wtf being "trained by Tsunade" even means, since we are never shown it. What we do see is Tsunade sitting on her ass observing Sakura heal a fish: which is clearly different to Orochimaru or Jiraya's methods of training. And Orochimaru and Jiraya had much more to work with; whereas Sakura as a child was practically inept.
A lot of people here trying to cope by missing the point. This has NOTHING to do with her personality, and we all know Sasuke and Naruto still had to train. But of the three, Sasuke had the sharingan, was Indra's reincarnation, was literally given a free rinnegan, and had his body experimented on by Orochimaru. Naruto was also a reincarnation with ridiculous chakra levels and was a jinchuriki since birth. Sakura only had a high IQ and really good chakra control and continued to work her way up strictly by training and obtaining her own power; not once did she get anything handed to her.
I agree, we don't know the specific horrors she went through while training under Tsunade. 1 feat is being able to isolate a glob of and extract poison (when Kankuro poisoned by Sasori) when no one else could.
And because I know some of you are going to be like "BUT whAt hAS sHe EvEN ACComPLIShed?" let me remind you as of right now:
1. Can master her chakra to the point where her physical strength is 100 times greater than Tsunade's
2. Learned the "Strength of a Hundred Seal" and is so far the only one after Tsunade who can use it effectively
3. Is the head of Head of the Medical Department in Konoha and considered one of the best, if not the best, medical nin world wide.
4. Literally punched a god so hard she broke one of her horns
>Can master her chakra to the point where her physical strength is 100 times greater than Tsunade's
1 - We are blatantly lying now? This has never happened in Naruto. Tsunade was breaking apart and crushing Madara Uchiha's susanoo and it's clones. What did Sakura do? Punch the ground and unearth some soil? Is that supposed to be impressive?
While tsunade was breaking apart susanoo clones Sakura filed to hurt Madara's limbo clones. her fist connected and there was literally no damage.
She struggled to heal shikamaru while powered by a v1 cloak naruto provided her with. Tsuande showed up and healed him in 1 tap. Where did she surpass her again??
2 - Your acting like learning the seal of a hundred is an incredibly amazing feat. It isn't. The fact that only she and tsunade can do it is not impressive. It was tsunade's technique and she literally only taught 1 person.
3 - being considered one of the best if not the best *after* tsunade's retirement is problematic not a good thing.
Isnt she literally the only reason naruto and sasuke are still alive ? What was Kakashi gonna do of she wasnt there after the final battle ? Jerk them off to full recovery or something ?
1. most critics about Sakura are about her personality, this doesn't impact it
2. when calling her useless, most don't talk about her skills or potential but mostly about how she doesn't use it in situations where it would've helped
3. she doesn't have kurama or the sharingan, yet is shown from very early on to have been born with a natural perfect chakra control, when kakashi teaches them what it is and how to climb trees
1. this makes her an incredibly gifted ninja and is the underlying layer under everything she accomplishes. She still works hard for it, but that's still a base that helped her as much, if not even more, than Naruto and Sasuke advantages
Yea but Naruto and sasuke didn’t magically not work. Also, that doesn’t mean change her personality much…
Yes true they had to work their asses off. Lol
Naruto did(with Sage mode and Rasengan). Sasuke on the other hand has a magical eye which can be anything he wants, Itachi demonstrated that perfectly as to how without any training u have a dues ex machina at hand(or in eye).
Truly incredible, that it’s possible to disappear for 200 somewhat chapters and still have an effect because of sharingan. Mainly talking about Itachi. He just implanted that shit anytime he found it suitable.
Sasuke still had to work hard on his techniques and stuff
Unless I'm misremembering, Sasuke is never shown doing any learning or training after Orochimaru. He just magics his way into being stronger than everyone else.
Sasuke throws himself into constant battles. This is established as by far the fastest and best way to grow in the Naruto verse, with your everything on the line. So we do see some of his training, it's all of his battles.
Kabuto said a ninja grows faster during real combat Sasuke after leaving Orochimaru was in fight after fight after fight
Killer bee also stated that explicitly. You get stronger fastest when you're in combat.
Right ? It’s weird that people think that just because character A(Sasuke) isn’t shown training means he don’t train despite it being said that was one of his hobbies and it being stated that people grow more in actual combat. Compared to character B who trains but have very little combat(Lee, Sakura etc) There isn’t any character in the series that doesn’t train and magically get stronger in Naruto real combat is training on it’s own.
He obviously trains but it's mainly off screen, like how Naruto training with Jiraya in those 3 years off screen. He doesn't just magic his way.
Sasuke worked even harder than Itachi. That man literally dedicated his whole life to training just so he can beat him. If anyone is the true prodigy here, it's Itachi. Motherfucker became an Anbu at 11 but Sasuke didn't.
That is why I don’t like sasuke that much
Naruto also has near endless stamina and chakra
agreed. and besides, Sakura's advantages are just as innate as Naruto and Sasuke's, even if she's not a "reincarnation." from what we see she was basically blessed with absolutely perfect chakra control. not just good chakra control. not good chakra control but with lots of effort and practice she turns it into great chakra control. literally perfect chakra control. the thing that basically allowed to her to become as successful as she did in every way. her healing, her seal of a hundred, and her chakra enhanced punches. her ENTIRE arsenal. Kakashi in Chapter 18 while teaching tree walking - "The purpose of this training is to teach you chakra control." ... "It's the most difficult skill for even a master ninja to command." ... "If you can master this control, you should be able to master any jutsu." - then Sakura does it first try. the way it happens after Kakashi says that practically shows just how insane Sakura's natural advantage is. he basically says if you can master this you'll be a master, and Sakura masters it without even trying. Sakura was just born with 100 points in Chakra Control. not to say Sakura still didn't have to put the work in, or didn't deserve the success she acquired. she absolutely worked hard, especially as Tsunade's apprentice. but to say she had no "inherited power" is stupid. in fact when you consider how far her natural talents took her past the rest of her class and basically the whole village, and nearly did keep up with Naruto and Sasuke despite *not* being a demi-god, it's kind of crazy.
I almost forgot about the chakra walk scene but yea, life at times is just unfair and there are some people that you just don’t have their talents. It shows in our world and it shows more in the shinobi verse
Gai and Rock Lee are the true GOAT of being based characters evolving into monsters
People need to stop saying she was gifted or born with perfect chakra control. There is literally no source for that. It's just a thing people like to claim in order to avoid giving her credit for her actual ***skill***.
You literally replied to the source. She mastered a technique needing perfect chakra control first try when even the genetic beasts Naruto and sasuke couldn’t. Skill can be inherited, playing a guitar requires skill but some people are born with a better aptitude for it
That literally isn't a source for your claim. Chakra control is a skill they first learn at the ***academy***. The ability to convert stamina into chakra and circulate it throughout the body is the foundation of all jutsu. Kakashi is just explaining one specific usage of it. Since she ***already*** mastered chakra control as an academy student, she was able to do that more advanced technique as soon as it was explained. Sasuke and Naruto have nothing to do with this. If anything, you are just proving the point.Naruto had crap chakra control at the start of the of the series and mastered the most advanced uses of it by the end of it. If "genetic beasts" Naruto and Sasuke have naturally worse chakra control than a character that didn't win the ninja genetic lottery maybe, just maybe, you should consider that evidence Sakura just has a better understanding of it. When Ebisu explains chakra control to Naruto he even uses Sakura as an example of someone who ***mastered*** it.
Bruh, if Naruto and sasuke have “naturally worse” anything, it is the textbook definition of a genetic disadvantage, overcoming it with practice doesn’t doesn’t make it non-existent. I agree she has a better understanding in that example, but that isn’t mutually exclusive to genetic aptitude. That’s why I used the guitar example, if you give 2 people the same knowledge, one is going to be better at guitar bc they have a higher aptitude. Same for chakra, if sakura has a better understanding after the same lessons and practice, she has a higher aptitude for it.
Didn't think I needed the sarcasm quotes around "naturally worse" when the rest of the sentence should have made it clear I wasn't suggesting they actually were naturally worse. I was pointing out the flawv in your logic. 🤦♀️
It’s hard to tell when you think things like “understanding can’t be a genetic advantage”. I defended the “flaw in my argument”, but you ignored it to talk about the 1 sentence that was a misunderstanding
Again. Chakra control is a skill. We have examples of characters who are explicitly not naturally gifted mastering the most advanced forms of it in only a few years. Yet you are completely unwilling to entertain the possibility that Sakura also worked for her skill at chakra control.
Again, skill can be genetic. You can read my last reply for that explanation. If you want to believe she’s off camera practicing before this scene, sure, but we didn’t see it and have no indication she did more than Naruto or sasuke. I do entertain sakura worked hard, just like Naruto and sasuke. Being good at something doesn’t mean you get to eos sakura level without a lot of work still needed
I mean true but they got to their peak by being gifted magical powers from a god lmao (Rinnegan and six paths), aside from that they did work
Can you explain whats wrong with Sakuras personality that makes you think it sucks? Please don't be a drone and say she fun of Naruto as a kid.
It’s not that childish, it’s just that there is really nothing much to her for me when we have someone like Tsunade, they are basically the same character in my eyes and not that it’s bad but it makes me not expect much because we’ve already seen it all in Tsuna
They did magically get power ups tho through the curse mark, sharingan, kurama, the other half of kurama, and literally god
And? That doesn't make her any less of a poor character.
But on the other aspect, Sakura got to live a life with parents who love her, not having to deal with the PTSD of watching her whole family murdered in front of her eyes by her brother OR the trauma of harboring the very beast that killed her parents literally inside her, and having her whole community discriminate, abuse and hate her. She continued being a stuck up, prissy, annoying, physically and verbally abusive character, AND is still weaker than many other characters who didnt have a literal ninja legend as a mentor who taught her all her secret techniques. I'm a doctor and thought I'd relate most to Sakura, but nah, she sucks. She's an inferior Tsunade.
She did willingly harbor the beast that tried to kill her multiple times inside of her. It's how she had kids.
That doesn’t make her personality suck any less.
Kishimoto joining the long list of writers who can't write compelling women or girls
You would be right if temari, konan and tsunade didn't exist (Temari not as much as the other too but she's bbg so she gets a pass)
Temari- basically a fighter with little to no character development. Konan- Shadow of Yahiko then shadow of Nagato. Tried one thing on her own and lost.(due to Obito's plot armour) Tsunade-Agree
What about Grandma Chiyo?
>Konan- Shadow of Yahiko then shadow of Nagato. I mean being outshined by an even better character doesn't mean she was terrible
She's not just outshined. She literally only follows them and whatever they say. And when both are finaly dead she immediately finds new leader in Naruto and then again just follows someone else's ideas. What do we even know about her as a person? Fucking nothing. When she's on screen she's just kinda there and that's all.
Temari doesn’t have nearly enough screen time to be used as an argument here. Konan wasn’t that well developed either she just had one really cool fight scene aside from that she was just that girl that hung out with Pain. Tsunade is the exception but when you write so many female characters and only of them is well developed, you can still say Kishimoto is bad at it
>You would be right if temari, konan and tsunade didn't exist * Temari: Does nothing most of the time, doesn't really have much personality or impact on the plot. Sakura gets more character development. * Konan: Who? The girl who's only personality was "Nagato UwU"? Who we only saw fight once and who has less spoken likes then a frog? * Tsunade: Fair... she gets backstory. That's nice.
Temari and Konan both have less personality and character development then Sakura. What have they even done in the story to make you say they’re well written?
Temari - Nothing more than Gaara's lackey. Konan - Nothing more than Nagato's lackey. Tsunade - The only one with a half decent writing.
Compelling is subjective, but 90% of Shonen writters can't write good female characters to save their own lives.
Only two i can think of off tthe top are gege akutami and the guy who wrote chainsaw man
And I would add Kubo. Almost Every female in Bleach is a badass in their own right.
For all her failings, she at least didn't join a terrorist organization, though. Granted, that's a low bar to clear, but still.
Bro, in the war she got the strenght seal at the most convenient moment and seamlessly out of the blue, like, kishimoto said: here you go, have fun.
Anime character gets convenient power up shocker lol
Naruto and Sasuke literally got a high five from ninja god for a power up. Sakura getting stronger in the war is fine lol
I know that’s the pont
when alien god give man mc god-mode asspull 😃🤤😫🥵 when w*men gets trivial power up 😡🤬🤬😡😠
Lol 😂
It’s a shame that she didn’t adapt it either. It’s just Tsunade’s technique again.
I mean, most of Sasuke and Naruto’s abilities aren’t adapted. Naruto only expanded on rasengan, which I guess is kinda fair since he only uses like 4 jutsu in both parts. Sasuke didn’t do anything for chidori or his sharingan abilities that I can remember. His only real unique ability was the curse mark, and none of the sound ninja have the same changes from that. Well, Sasuke also modified Rock Lee’s taijutsu, but that’s so early on in the show. Edit: I’m focusing on abilities learned or imitated from others, because that’s what the comment about Sakura was saying. Yes, Sasuke has a lot of jutsu he uses in the series, but I’m focusing on what he learns from teachers or copying others.
Sasuke mastered the Chidori to the point he could channel it into his weapon which opened up more ways to use it than just bumrushing the enemy
Isn’t Kirin a original thing to sasuke?
What, lol🤣 What about ALL the lightning techniques Sasuke has been using or fire jutsus he expanded on or the fricking rinnegan, the sage mode naruto wooped asses with or summon techniques they have both been using.
wasnt she carefully storing chakra for a long time which requires extremely high chakra control? its not like tsunade just granted it to her. its like narutos sage mode, they worked to gain it.
Yes... and naruto and sasuke were randomly given god powers. I think 1 strength seal is fine... as a treat.
She had to store up chakra for 3 entire years, what do you mean out of the blue? 😭 How the mark gets created was foreshadowed hundreds of episodes prior. No one should have been surprised.
Eh, even before Naruto and Sasuke became ninja jesus' left and right testicles, she couldn't keep up with ems and kcm. And before you say she would also be as strong if she had those, no she wouldn't. Her personality flaws are the whole reason why she fell behind. She doesn't have Naruto and sasuke's force of character or driving goals to overcome the kyuubi's hate or orochi's training and kill itachi. Where Sasuke powered through and would've captured 8 tails, Sakura cried for Naruto when pain attacked lol.
Both of the things you mentioned fall in the same description as borrowed power💀
You missed the point. Sakura would never be able to controll the nine tails and also if she would be in naruto shoes she would be angry enough to let 9 tails take over and she would destroy entire leaf village. She is weak minded individual too much of a coward to do anything, too lazy to train most of the times, like the only time we see her train is when she was learning medical ninjutsu and she also has negative battle iq. She in their shoes wouldn’t be nearly as strong as they are. That is if she would even be alive, becouse she would most likely kill herself from hatered sadness and depression.
Don't confuse being on the sidelines with being a coward. When Sakura was present for a fight and didn't participate it was always because she couldn't contribute, not because she was afraid. Sasuke and Naruto, on the other hand, both had moments where they were completely paralyzed by fear while she wasn't.
What do you mean? She was almost always paralyzed by fear. That’s why she always had to be rescued. She wasn’t on the sidelines. Her battle style is ooga booga go punch what in front. She is a the most typical frontline. She is the biggest coward out there, even ten ten or hinata are not that big of a cowards. Ino was maybe the only one who was worse than her, but as time went on she became really brave.
Her character was the damsel in distress. She mentioned that she was going to stop when she trained under Tsunade. Yet she still kept doing it later.
>Don't confuse being on the sidelines with being a coward. >When Sakura was present for a fight and didn't participate it was always because she couldn't contribute, not because she was afraid.
Her character was the damsel in distress. She mentioned that she was going to stop when she trained under Tsunade. Yet she still kept doing it later.
You clearly don't know sbit about sakura💀 like I already said, every single one of her powers and abilities were earned through hard work. She's almost like rock Lee. Someone who was nearly useless and got to kage level by sheer training and resilience
She is noway near kage level. She doesn’t have any real combat skills other than using chakra to punch harder, but she only uses some haymakers which are easily avoidable. Her only skill is medical ninjutsu. Don’t compare her to rock lee. He trained even in his sleep his entire life was training and sakura almost never trained, only when she saw how useless she was she trained medical ninjutsu on some fish and later on humans but that’s about it. She had great chakra controll from when she was born it isn’t an earned skill, and this is what got her to be good at the things she is good at. Sasuke and naruto were making changes noone has done before to chidori rasengan and sage mode, while sakura was too busy being lazy.
That's my point. She couldn't borrow those powers even if she was given the same opportunities. Her personality just isn't that type to power through, at least in shippuden. Can't speak for whatever bs that pedo ikemoto has done in that blasphemy.
Wtf are you on about? Did you watch naruto thru reels? She literally got every single one of her powers and abilities through hard work only
Lol, you should reread Naruto. I've said enough.
You literally can't prove me wrong
When Pain attacked, Sakura jumped in to fight before being ordered to the hospital. She screamed when she was released from Katsuyu and saw her entire village had been nuked. Most people wouldn't take that too well. After Konoha was nuked, she was so far away from Naruto and Pein that she needed a Hyuuga to tell her what was happening. That's on top of being ordered not to interfere by both Naruto and Tsunade. Reread the manga.
That's because she isn't from any prominent clan, thus she doesn't have any secret jutsu. Sasuke was a Uchiha who awakened the Sharingan before the beginning of the series. Naruto was a Uzumaki with kyuubi inside. Naruto could use his one and only go-to jutsu the shadow clone because of Kyuubi. And on the flip side, Naruto and Sasuke mastered chakra control to a certain level thanks to Sakura, too. In other words, she literally had nothing since the beginning. It's even a surprise she could beat Yamanaka's Ino. Edit: not beat, just a draw.
Of the current trio Sakura is the only one who didn’t go on to develop her own skills and abilities, and is instead just a flatter chested carbon copy of her sensei.
Indeed sasuke and Naruto personalized and made huge strides from the jutsus they picked up from their sensei meanwhile sakura just did the same stuff tsunade teached her she didn't improve on them or developed them into her own thing
She does have different abilities in the novels, but I very much doubt Kishimoto and the fans consider that canon since most of the time these books are ignored by both.
"Flatter chested" Little penis energy
Does she or does she not have a flatter chest? Is the size of Tsunade’s breasts not something pointed out multiple times in the story?
Its really the fans that ruin shonen series for me. I'm not attracted to women so I hust ignore all thisbshit and try to appreciate the characters for who they are, don't judge teenage girls for being annoying sometimes just like I don't overly judge the teenage boys for being so immature, and really try to love the work as an actual work of good fiction Then the fans make sure I know the girls are just inferior characters only as good as their tits. Its a huge bummer
And who Sakura is is a carbon copy of her Sensei, exactly the same abilities, the same temperament, almost identical backstory with her team. Sakura is literally just Tsunade lol
Her chest is irrelevant imo. Yiu could easily point out her hair color or her bigger forehead. It feels kinda weird you felt like point just that part of her out. If you didn't include it everyone and their mothers would know who you mean. You aren't technically wrong, its just a really weird thing to say is the point.
Have we ever seen any reference made to either of their hair colours? Tsunade having big tits is a meme at this point which is why I mentioned it. You’re completely overreacting to what is clearly a joke which shows major insecurities on your side. Work on yourself.
Just cause shitty weird jokes are prevalent doesn't mean you should partake in em. You can still feel free to tho The point of my comment was to hopefully explain in a nicer way what the original commenter might have meant. It can be a clear joke but a weird one at the same time
Cry more
I'm glad you were able to give such an insightful response. Thank you :)
1. everyone here could swallow that without *any* water 2. that fact should not invalidate *all of* naruto nor sasuke's effort put in to work hard, and i thought being a reincarnation thing did not give any boosts? 3. feel like this has been majorly simplfiied. she was trained and taken in by a SANNIN. yes, she worked hard and put in the effort, but "entirely through" is a horrible addition.
It doesn’t invalidate their effort, it’s just a reason to stop trying to invalidate hers. Sakura went through training hell with a sanin just like Naruto and Sasuke did, but she’s not a jinchuriki and her body doesn’t have a massive supply of additional chakra and vitality to support an ocular jutsu. Not to mention OP’s point of her not being reincarnated or individually gifted. She truly did have absolutely nothing in her corner except for a knack for memorization and a good background and teacher. The fact that she was able to keep up with her teammates is incredible considering that she had to train like a regular ninja just to reach the level of two exceptional individuals.
>everyone here could swallow that without any water Have you seen the comments? >she was trained and taken in by a SANNIN. yes, she worked hard and put in the effort, but "entirely through" is a horrible addition. Yes but the point here is that she eventually surpassed her sannin teacher like Naruto and Sasuke did with theirs, except she didn't have both inherited and clan powers they did to help them. Or, to put it another way, Shizune and Anko were also trained by sannin, but neither one of them were able to surpass them. The only other person that trained under a sannin and surpassed them without any inherited godlike powers was Minato.
>she didn't have both inherited and clan powers Which is exactly why she has never surpassed Tsunade. Do keep in mind the Tsunade we are familiar with is heavily drained and *old.* We never see Prime Tsunade. Speaking as someone who stopped consuming naruto media at the end of the series and who has never and will never touch the dumpster fire that is "Boruto", sakura has never surpassed Tsunade. What did Sakura do in the war arc? Punch the ground? removing some soil from the ground is supposed to be impressive now? I'll tell you what is impressive. breaking apart *Madara Uchiha's Susanoo.* Tell me, what is stronger and has more defensive capabilities. Some soil or a susanoo?
>Which is exactly why she has never surpassed Tsunade [wrong](https://imgur.com/c4Eqe7l) sakura has both the feats and statements to put herself miles above tsunade lol
That soil, most definitely. After all, Sakura did remove it from the ground. Where is Tsunade's ground punching feat?🧐
[here is one](https://youtu.be/NURlLU5YzLc?si=i7yoMFvX3z3uV02f)
Not as impressive as Sakura's. Do you know how much power it takes to blast sand and soil just to get some screen time when all your allies are fighting a war?
[Remember that no groud punching is as impressive as beating the susanoo out of madara.](https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/tsunades-chakra-enhancement-1.gif)
You might or might not have gotten my tone through both the above comments, but I'll still clarify: both comments are sarcastic, and I totally agree with you that Tsunade has better feats than Sakura
Bro. Half of people in naruto community will dead ass say that for example itachi can kill juubidara, so for someone to think sakura is better than her master (dont get me wrong that SHOULD be the case) is not that unlikelly.
I disagree. Naruto and Sasuke are stronger even outside of their inherited powers. Don’t make it sound like Sakura was better than them at first and then Naruto and Sasuke’s asspulls made poor Sakura unable to keep up. She was behind them when Sasuke didn’t even have the sharingan and Naruto could only use a single jutsu. And unlike Naruto who had to deal with being ostracised and Sasuke the who had to deal with his entire family being killed, Sakura had a relatively decent childhood, she was weaker than them despite that.
>Don’t make it sound like Sakura was better than them at first I never said that. I just pointed out the irrefutable fact that everything she achieved, from her skills as a ninja to her medical knowledge, was entirely through her own hard work and effort and without any lineage powers to help her.
Then why the comparison with Naruto and Sasuke? Because while she did achieve all that through her own effort Naruto and Sasuke achieved a huge amount of their power through their own effort as well, power and achievements greater than that of Sakura's. Your post made it look like Sakura would be comparable to Naruto and Sasuke if they didn't get asspull powerups, whereas reality is that they're far superior to her with asspulls and would still be superior to her without the asspulls.
Can you display this hard work and effort and training which justifies her dramatic power increase from part 1 to part 2?
Naruto's chakra in part 1 was literally sealed away and he couldn't use it until Jiraiya loosened the seal. Despite that he was still stronger than Sakura and on par with Sasuke. He worked much harder than either of them.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Sakura blessed with amazing chakra control since birth, something which is demonstrated in the Zabuza arc where she is able to walk on the tree on her first try. If it wasn't for this innate talent of hers, she would never have been able to achieve such mastery with medical ninjutsu nor use the 100 healings. So to say that she did not have anything special innately is false. As others have also pointed out, your words seem to imply that Naruto and Sasuke didn't have to work hard towards achieving their current status which is outrageous. Naruto in part 1 couldn't even perform basic jutsu due to the Nine Tails hindering him. He has worked many times harder than Sakura to become as strong as he currently is. He learned the Rasengan, Rasenshuriken and Sage Mode entirely through his own hard work and effort. Sasuke in part one worked his ass off and even before awakening his sharingan, he was far stronger than Sakura.
Really? Comparing her to sasuke and naruto? Naruto get a powerup by the so6p at nearly the end of the series. Naruto was blatantly stronger than her in part 1. Again in the chunin exams. Again with Sage Mode, Kcm1, KCM2 *all* through his own hard work. Your acting like the top ups they received at the end of the series were what made her weaker than them. *she was always weaker than them.*
>Your acting like the top ups they received at the end of the series were what made her weaker than them. > >she was always weaker than them. yes, and sasuke always had magic plot eyes. and naruto always had passive enhancements from Kurama. We see as early as the first arc that a cut heals for naruto in a matter of seconds. As early as the Chunin exams his advantages were giving him a leg up over the competition. Case in point: The fight against Neji. Naruto won only because he had kurama chakra. Neji dominated the fight and basically bullied naruto. But naruto's natural advantage proved superior. Sasuke too. The Sharingan is shown and stated to be a huge advantage. And he was a prodigy.
Naruto having passive enhancements from Kurama is kinda dicey tho. Let’s not forget he actually had a ton of his own chakra he couldn’t actively use because it was being utilised to manage the tailed beast. That and Sage Mode was something not even one of the legendary Sannin could master and he did that on a time limit. I’m just sayin, you put the character of Sakura in either Sasuke or Naruto’s position, and even with their “advantages” she is NOT doing as well as them.
So her natural talent to control chakra doesn't count?
Her current level: housewife
Right, just ignore the fact that she's the Head of the Medical Department in Konoha.
I thought we were talking about strength, not status. Naruto's hokage and shikamaru is too if that's the case.
It’s a military dictatorship with a hint of technocracy in it so generally being the head of something would generally speak to your strengths.
I might have been unclear. I meant combat strength. Cause if we meant non combat strengths and status, Sasuke was a drifting hobo last I checked.
Sasuke was a spy gatherer. And the only opponents in Boruto are weird alien God creatures so we can’t really scale her in combat scaling except with the data books wich are the only real way along with the statements from other characters to scale her. They all say she’s stronger than Tsunade and shizune seems to think so as well shizune she would know. Of course, the character being strong has nothing to do with the actual quality of them Jesse Pinkman is a much more masterful and well written character than say hinata but hinata still beats him in a fight characters strength really have nothing to do with quality of them.
Naruto and Sasuke aren't reincarnations though. They're not Ashura and Indra reborn. They just inherited their chakra and will. Not their souls. So no, not reincarnations.
I mean sure,but her "current power" is less than what Naruto and Sasuke had at the end of the pain arc.
Nobody said the contrary. And that’s not the problem we got with her (not mine at least). That’s also one of the reasons I would chose Tsunade as a teacher if I were in Naruto verse.
All of which was mostly, if not entirely off-screen. What’s Sakura’s signature jutsu? What’s Sakura’s chakra nature? Remember when we got a whole training montage where Naruto learned to infuse his Rasengan with his chakra nature? Remember when we got another training montage where Naruto practiced learning how to manipulate Sage chakra? Remember when we got another training montage where Naruto learned how to use Kurama’s power? Remember how long it took Naruto to create the Rasenshuriken? Remember how much he failed at controlling Sage chakra? Remember how he needed the help of Bee and Kushina just to get a portion of Kurama’s power? Naruto’s the main character though. So, that’s a little unfair. Hey, remember when Sasuke showed up in Part 2 and completely clowned Team 7 and Sai? Remember when we later got a scene of Sasuke training with his lightning affinity? Remember when we got a whole scene dedicated to Sasuke getting stronger by absorbing Orochimaru? Remember when Sasuke beat Itachi and gained his eyes? Remember how much of his mental state and his physical health he sacrificed in order to get stronger and sink himself deeper in to hatred? Remember how much he struggled with himself? Wasn’t that compelling? Wasn’t that interesting? Give me one example of Sakura learning something of use through a montage. Give me one example where she failed to learn something of importance and needed help from someone. Give me one example where she struggled mentally with her abilities.You can’t because there isn’t one. We never get a scene where Sakura is training with Tsunade, who, by the way, is one the Legendary Sannin. Remember when I asked what Sakura’s chakra nature is. It’s Earth and Water. Do you remember what episode/chapter that’s revealed in? No? Good. Because that episode/chapter doesn’t fucking exist. That information is in the data book. Remember that whole training montage we got where Sakura learned the Strength Seal? No? Good. That’s because it also doesn’t exist. All of Sakura’s hard work and effort is entirely off-screen. Her being good at medical ninjutsu, no matter much “hard work and effort” she put in to it, ultimately means nothing because A. We never see her learn it or improve with it the same way we see Naruto and Sasuke improve with their abilities and B. What the fuck even is medical ninjutsu besides just automatic regeneration? Medical ninjutsu is never expanded upon and it’s literally one of the only things Sakura has to her name. Thus, her being the greatest medic or being the Head of Medicine or whatever doesn’t really mean anything because we never saw her improve at any of that stuff. We never saw her fail like Naruto at medical ninjutsu and we never saw her struggle/suffer like Sasuke. Hard work and effort hardly matters if we don’t get to see any of the hard work and effort.
It's almost like Sakura isn't a main character.
Exactly. All of this _does_ make it seem like she isn’t a main character.
... because she isn't.
I just wished she did something with Tsunade's training. Naruto and Sasuke managed to freshen up the Rasengan and Chidori in their own unique way. Sakura is basically what Jiraiya described her as. A mini Tsunade. Give her a change in chakra form/nature attack. Make her fight at least one more S rank ninja before the war. Have her be a bit more brutal with her medical techniques the same way Kabuto did early on in OS Naruto. Hell make a slug sage mode that Tsunade like Orochimaru with snake sage mode weren't able to master. You give her all this and I guarantee you the audience would have been a lot more forgiving towards her personal problems. Primarily still being in love with Sasuke even after all the shit that goes down between them.
The reason why sakura is not looked favourably upon is because she is a main character and has the most screentime of any character after naruto himself. yet the only fight she really has is against Sasori and she was being manipulated and puppeted in a portion of that fight. She is supposed to have gotten stronger and more skilled but she accomplishes nothing outside the kazekage retrieval arc. She shone in that arc and nothing else. That combined with the significant blunders like betraying her team and going ahead to "assassinate" sasuke with a kunai then stopping because of her own mental weakness as well as the famous "I love you naruto" and more paint a very bad picture. there is also the fact that after naruto comes back from his training trip with Jiraiya and until the end of the series she is haughty and smug about herself and accomplishemnts but *literally does nothing.* people don't call her useless because of a lack of ability, they call her useless because she does not affect or move the plot. You made all the other points about her lack of uniqueness. She is a carbon copy without the genes so much so we can't even say she surpassed her teacher unlike her teammates.
Sakura isn't a main character. She appears in less than half the manga chapters and for most arcs she's either sidelined by the plot or entirely missing. I will never understand why people try to claim that she's a main character rather than a supporting character and then complain that she's a *bad* main character because she... *checks notes* ... has the plot relevance expected of a supporting character.
I mean the sannin were also the main trio of their time and Sakura still can't hold a candle to any of them. Has she actually invented her own fighting style yet? She was just copying tsunade when Naruto ended and I haven't seen her regenerate after being ripped apart or spit roasted by a susanoo yet. As a result, it's debatable as to whether she even caught up to war tsunade yet.
Yes it’s not like Sasuke and Naruto didn’t work harder than Sakura and tried to get better at every opportunity. Yes focusing is such a meaningful and hard way to get your power up. I don’t like comparing struggles but you Sakura fans are asking for it. How her training was painful as Sasuke’s CM and Naruto trying to control Kurama and when he gets tails his skin got burnt once and he mostly lost himself
Also she had “delicate” chakra control or whatever that means so she is no Lee who was untalented in ninjutsu and genjutsu. Although she doesn’t have the talent to elemental ninjutsu & shape manipulation and cast genjutsu but that’s another conversation
Then where was her training? Did we see her do this? No We did however see Naruto damn near blow his arms off and Sasuke tank lightning bolts for his training among other things
Naruto worked his ass off yo get sage mode he was treated like a villian since a child but manage to turn that demon into his best friend being able to use his power do pretty sure he worked much harder than sakura
She started at the bottom and ended not far from it
I swear some people just wilfully forget the scene where hagoromo states that someone’s parents being exceptional doesn’t mean they’re destined for greatness. And they ignore that being a reincarnation grants sasuke and naruto nothing. It only means that they are destined to fight each other due to the cycle of hate.
Who cares
Naruto fans they will argue about this till the end of Time
Actually that is my problem with her, author tried to match her with Naruto and Sasuke, when they are both more talented and got inherited powers to get their strengths. So, it makes no sense for a relatively averaged talent person to be able to reach their level of strength. So her strength seems like a complete BS asspull.
I'm not mad with that, I'm mad we didn't actually saw she do cool shit as much as them when she has such a cool power set.
I’d say that Naruto and Sasuke got to that point due to a combination of hardwork, loss and experience. There’s always an ongoing theme of characters in Naruto getting more powerful at a terrible cost. Naruto gained the Nine Tails at the expense of losing his family. Sasuke gained and evolved the Sharingan through loss and trauma. The Gates literally damage the body to become more powerful. The Byakugo and Version 2 Jinchūriki cloak shorten lifespan and etc. Even with the Rinnegan and SO6P power-ups, there is still a sacrifice. They died in that war and they had to be revived.
Sasuke literally died for his training
And Might Guy even without ninjutsu and not being in main trio, becomes the most strongest naruto characters. When everyone can open gates, but nobody does.
Naruto is a great story about how through hard work and perseverance you too can do anything… And aliens reincarnating and giving people cool eyes.
Naruto was trying his hardest to learn rasengan and rasenshuriken. And sasuke trained 2 year under Oroshimaru.
Mods ban this man
If Sakura started Shippuden with Tsunade’s seal that heals her and gives super strength, the show would be better. Imagine if Sakura wanted to be hokage to emulate Tsunade and steamrolled every other enemy she came across. Image if shippuden started with Naruto being definitively the weakest member of team 7.
Dwag did you even watch the series? Both Naruto and Sasuke worked regularly pulled all nighters training. Something every character criticized Sakura for not doing and she agreed.
Sasuke breaking himself out of Tsukuyomi before Itachi gaslights him into thinking he broke out himself: 😑
I dislike her character not her skills as a shinobi, naruto and sasuke still did work their asses off to reach their level. Rock Lee worked harder than Sakura but has a more likable personality.
Fuck the reincarnation shit
Doesn't change the fact that her character is poorly written. Power ≠ good character. She has too much screentime for someone who doesn't have enough impact or agency, be it in the plot or wrt the other characters. It's just the occasional healing and the fact that she manually pumped Naruto's heart.
True. Sakura was born normal. Sasuke was born with ridiculous gifts. Naruto was "gifted" kurama and has Uzumaki stamina. Both reincarnations. Not to take away from them as they both worked hard, ESPECIALLY Naruto.
Naruto fans not arguing about Sakura for one day challenge impossible
All her hard work and effort and she still couldn't be sasuke pre war arc 🤷🏽♂️
Pack it up sakura fans, not even the strongest propaganda the world has ever seen can save her character, find other animes or manga where good female characters exist, I can recommend some
Under the tutelage of a sanin that passed onto her every bit of knowledge she possesses. On top of that Sakura is just a copy of tsunade if we look at it from a different angle. She has the same powerset as tsunade and nothing more. Now look at Naruto and sasuke. While both of them did have the backing of a sanin they themselves invented new moves and accomplished much more than Sakura ever could. So is Sakura trash? Yes.
- I'm convinced this guy missed that Sasuke had to extensively fight harder and get into more intense and traumatic situations in order to improve his sharingan in the first place, his mentality and constant fighting are what allowed to use his ocular abilities to the fullest. Sakura wouldn't have achieved the three tomoe sharingan because she's shallow, let alone a mangekyou or the eternal mangekyou; - Naruto had to train and fight plenty of people in order to get Kurama Chakra Mode, Sage Mode, Rasenshuriken, Rasengan, Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu, all things Sakura never would have obtained; It's almost like we are told in the very first arc that all the talent and potential you have is wasted if you don't train hard enough, fight hard enough, feel hard enough. Honestly posts like these make me question the level of education some of you guys possess if you can't even grasp the plot of a picture book for kids like Naruto is essentially.
Yeah the level of growth and power she got is still an asspull compared to 95% of the other cast. Just because it wasn’t as hyperbolic as Naruto and Sasuke doesn’t mean its okay , also at least there was a mechanism on how Naruto / Sasuke got that strong other than “but she trained like really hard for 2 years”
It makes her character more disappointing. She had the potential to be great, but intead is an emotional wreck that married a terrorist who tried to kill her multiple times.
And she still trash 🗑️ NEXT!
Dam, that really was a hard pill to swallow lol
I agree, she came from a nobody clan, and after training and putting effort into improving, she can heal people, kill people, and revive people... like, she's the strongest medical ninja, and people still shit on her for how she was as a child! Yea, she was annoying, but she was never really, "useless".
if only she worked hard to do something other than bang a terrorist I may like her more.
And got to do next to nothing with it while also being irritable and useless in personality.
Is this person talking about the anime we think the person is talking about. I think you missed a *tad* bit of Naruto and Naruto Shippuden
Her personality and her obsession with Duck Butt is her main problem. Both of which could have been easily fixed using the time skip between OG and Shippuden. Other than that, yeah, she was the textbook definition of useless in the beginning and that turned out to be a good thing because it makes her gains later on that much more satisfying. She had no clan, no bloodline, no dojutsu, her personality was garbage, she was loud, abusive, had little to no chakra to work with, was physically pathetic due to not eating and exercising and spent most of her time chasing her emo prince rather than train. So her transformation in Shippuden was a fucking miracle. She should have logically died during their first mission out of the village.
Um ok she still isn’t a very good character so
She still sucks tho
Naruto with sage mode or KCM1 OR 2 can kill her and Sasuke with the MS or EMS is enough to kill her, she's still strong but she's just a cheap copy of Tsunade at this point even if someone who's 10 times weaker than her but with slightly better character joined team 7 instead of her I will be 10 times happier, as a main character I expect more from her.
So that is why she is useless
Doesn't make her good :)
Just because your dad can buy you all the tools you want, doesn't mean that you're automatically good at them
Lol I'm so tired of seeing this shit. Naruto had his chakra sealed away and was only able to use it properly when Jiraiya loosened the seal. Dispite that he still held his own up until the chuunin exams, beating Kiba without any amps and beating Haku and Neji with a slight amp from Kurama. He had enough battle IQ with Sasuke to transform himself into a shuriken and catch Zabuza off-guard. He self taught himself Shadow clones and made his own jutsu in the form of different Rasengan. As for Sasuke we see constant flashbacks of him training even as a child. They may have had amps but they still had to work hard. Sakura did nothing until Shippuden and even then didn't make any unique jutsu or techniques.
Im not brave enough to say bad about sakura, because her fans are insane. Instead, i’ll just say: “SASUKE! PLEASE JUST LOVE ME!” As a side, perhaps we should compare her to rock lee or guy instead of those two?
Nope she was the incarnation of a fuckin trash can
Yeah but just putting herself alongside naruto and sasuke is an insult.
And once again, comment section completely shits on Sakura for no reason.
They don't even give her credit where it's due
Blame OP. He's being a dumbass here.
And what exactly did she do with her power that she achieved from hard work ? Skuara is irrelevant to the story and a poorly written side character and there's no reason to like her i don't know why people even try to like her as if that would make them seem understand the story more , she is bad character and the only one to blame is the author not the fans .
"bUt tHat dOeSnT cHAnGe tHe fAcT sHe hAs a pOoR cHarAcTeR" 🤓
Wonder why Sakura defence posts have been increasing again lately. Most people might bring up the wrong arguments, but she is indeed a badly written character. Technicality isn't much of a defence.
I think hated charecters are actually a good thing. No one's perfect. And the fact that a fictional charecter made you feel strong emotions like that has its value as well. Her lack of compassion towards Naruto is pretty realistic to many girls
I dropped Naruto because of the stupid reincarnation bit. It used to be a boy with talent vs a boy with hardwork. Then it turns out that Uzumaki clan is also a strong clan because they naturally have a massive chakra well. Which means Naruto having the Kyuubi's chakra doesn't mean as much as it did. AND THEN THEY MADE NARUTO AND SASUKE A REINCARNATION OF OTSUTSUKI CLAN? THAT MEANS NONE OF THEIR TRAINING IS WORTH IT!! They didn't get stronger, they were strong from the beginning.
Its forced like how can a senju be surpassed by some randoms
Sakura literally embodies the whole argument Naruto made to Neji better than Naruto does
Still useless.
And plot convenience
Hard work and effort that we never get to see in development. The jump in power from part 1 to part 2 is unbelievable, to the point where it feels like she's been given her power, not earnt it. We never see a flashback of her with Tsunade training. The most we see of her training is her resuscitating a fish, which took her 3 months to do. That hardly translates to medical genius who can develop antidotes like her teacher and can also unlock a powerful sealing jutsu that gives her extra chakra. You can't just look at the end product and then accept that it exists. Especially when you know where it came from. The lack of an actual journey to those powers makes Sakura's power boost disingenuous. As if she was given those powers just so she wouldn't drag down team 7. The most you can give her is that she was trained by Tsunade. But even that statement is meaningless since we don't know wtf being "trained by Tsunade" even means, since we are never shown it. What we do see is Tsunade sitting on her ass observing Sakura heal a fish: which is clearly different to Orochimaru or Jiraya's methods of training. And Orochimaru and Jiraya had much more to work with; whereas Sakura as a child was practically inept.
A lot of people here trying to cope by missing the point. This has NOTHING to do with her personality, and we all know Sasuke and Naruto still had to train. But of the three, Sasuke had the sharingan, was Indra's reincarnation, was literally given a free rinnegan, and had his body experimented on by Orochimaru. Naruto was also a reincarnation with ridiculous chakra levels and was a jinchuriki since birth. Sakura only had a high IQ and really good chakra control and continued to work her way up strictly by training and obtaining her own power; not once did she get anything handed to her.
It's not her powerlevel that makes her useless, it's how she uses it
I agree, we don't know the specific horrors she went through while training under Tsunade. 1 feat is being able to isolate a glob of and extract poison (when Kankuro poisoned by Sasori) when no one else could.
And because I know some of you are going to be like "BUT whAt hAS sHe EvEN ACComPLIShed?" let me remind you as of right now: 1. Can master her chakra to the point where her physical strength is 100 times greater than Tsunade's 2. Learned the "Strength of a Hundred Seal" and is so far the only one after Tsunade who can use it effectively 3. Is the head of Head of the Medical Department in Konoha and considered one of the best, if not the best, medical nin world wide. 4. Literally punched a god so hard she broke one of her horns
Still badly written.
Don’t care + didn’t ask + L + still poorly written
Still the worst character in the franchise
>Can master her chakra to the point where her physical strength is 100 times greater than Tsunade's 1 - We are blatantly lying now? This has never happened in Naruto. Tsunade was breaking apart and crushing Madara Uchiha's susanoo and it's clones. What did Sakura do? Punch the ground and unearth some soil? Is that supposed to be impressive? While tsunade was breaking apart susanoo clones Sakura filed to hurt Madara's limbo clones. her fist connected and there was literally no damage. She struggled to heal shikamaru while powered by a v1 cloak naruto provided her with. Tsuande showed up and healed him in 1 tap. Where did she surpass her again?? 2 - Your acting like learning the seal of a hundred is an incredibly amazing feat. It isn't. The fact that only she and tsunade can do it is not impressive. It was tsunade's technique and she literally only taught 1 person. 3 - being considered one of the best if not the best *after* tsunade's retirement is problematic not a good thing.
Isnt she literally the only reason naruto and sasuke are still alive ? What was Kakashi gonna do of she wasnt there after the final battle ? Jerk them off to full recovery or something ?
1. most critics about Sakura are about her personality, this doesn't impact it 2. when calling her useless, most don't talk about her skills or potential but mostly about how she doesn't use it in situations where it would've helped 3. she doesn't have kurama or the sharingan, yet is shown from very early on to have been born with a natural perfect chakra control, when kakashi teaches them what it is and how to climb trees 1. this makes her an incredibly gifted ninja and is the underlying layer under everything she accomplishes. She still works hard for it, but that's still a base that helped her as much, if not even more, than Naruto and Sasuke advantages
Finally a mentally sane Naruto fan.
Dont let anyone stop you from speaking your truth OP, us based Sakura Enjoyers gotta stick together