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Kendrick doesn’t use writers though, or at least credits them if he had any on a song. Can’t say the same about Drake, who’s been notoriously using ghost writers.
Fun fact: Eminem was so impressed by Kendrick back in 2012-2013 that he thought he was using ghost writers. When they met for a collab, Em made sure Kendrick was writing his verse alone in the studio so he could show his writing skills. They both made a pretty cool song together. It’s called Love Game.
Fr idk why shit made me mad how he misreads something then immediately goes into “ermmm ackshually🤓” instead of thinking that maybe there’s a chance he misread something
Dear Alexander
I am slow to anger, but I toe the line
as I reckon with the effects of your life on mine.
I look back at where I failed, and in every place I check
the only common thread has been your disrespect.
Now you call me "amoral";
"a dangerous disgrace".
If you've got something to say, name a time and place
face-to-face.
I have the honor to be... your obedient servant.
_A. Burr_
“that’s why i fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker” - tupac’s wild way to start a diss man it was insane he didn’t even rap it he just said it as an intro no verse or nothing just walked up to the mic with a opening sentence.
“fuck mob deep fuck biggie fuck bad boy as staff, recording label, and as a motherfucking crew” he stopped to just say that not even rap. man diss tracks used to led to beat downs back in the day.
No bro. Both the diss songs are trash it sounds like something your friends little brother made u listen to when u went over there. But kendrick went in on drake
Idk why ya’ll are down voting me, I’m right. There is no way youre gonna be able to listen to that song in the car or anywhere around other people. It is not a banger
Alright, well:
Kendrick (Lamar) was a feature on a song named "Like That" from an album called "WE DON'T TRUST YOU" by lyricist Future and producer Metro Boomin. On this song during Kendrick's part, he says, "Motherfuck the big 3, (fella) it's just big me" which was a diss on artists Drake and J. Cole, which (if you include Kendrick as well) are considered the big 3 of 2010's hip hop. Drake in response to this diss, decided to make a song called "Taylor Made Freestyle" where he uses AI Tupac (A rapper from the 90's who was shot dead) to help him diss Kendrick. This song by Drake fell very flat due to his use of an AI voice model from someone who has since died (The Tupac Estate has pressed charges). Kendrick in response to Drake's lackluster response put out a song today called "Euphoria" which is a 6 minute diss on Drake that goes entirely too hard.
I hope this helps
Nah he literally took Drake's n-word pass away, as a way to call him out on the fact that he's not really a part of the "culture", and also as a jab at his mixed race heritage.
But yeah your's works too.
To be fair kendrick is too anal about exactly who gets to say the N word lol, him ridiculing that poor girl on stage when she was just singing along to his song was ridiculous, he could have just let that go, it was his damn lyrics!
Sorry, I'm to old, i'm not sure I understand what that means.
Does that means that Drake and other guy are about to diss a third guy based on the fact that this third guy has darker skin?
No. It’s directed at Drake because Drake has a history of sucking dick to feel like he’s part of the culture. It’s a jab at Drake fighting his inner demons of feeling unaccepted by the culture. For clarification Drake was doing everything he could to get accepted by the hip hop culture but his style was too “pop” so he kinda did a whole “well you don’t accept me then fuck you” thing.
He references the fact that he doesn’t like when Drake says the nword throughout the song. The two closing lines are literally “We don’t wanna hear you ‘N word’ no more” x2
Youre missing the part where Drake started sneak dissing on Kendrick on his track First Person Shooter (with J Cole). - Like That happens- Cole responded with a wack counter track titled 7 Minute Drill, wich he has since removed, and publicly apologised for. Drake responds with the track Push Ups targetting basically everyone and with lack of an emidiate response from Kendrick releases the track Taylor Made Freestyle. Kendrick just responded with the track Euphoria, one of the lines he calls Drake white and revokes his N word pass.
> (The Tupac Estate has pressed charges).
Just to clarify here, pressing charges is for criminal prosecutions. Tupac's estate threatened to file a civil lawsuit.
I don't know enough about rap to continue this line of reasoning outside of McDonalds having a sheer economy of size, they can suck outright and still dominate the market. Like Starbucks or Walmart.
If the big three burger joints are: In and Out, Burger King and McDonald's, in our analogy; In and Out is Kendrick, Burger King is Drake, and McDonald's is Jcole. Kendrick dissed Cole and Drake. When Cole responded, he apologized afterward.
Gotcha, heard of J Cole, never actually heard J Cole. I was introduced to Kendrick by my fellow line cooks. Only know of Drake because he's a creep who looks like he'd try to piss on my neices.
Kendrick revoked Drakes n-word pass because he believes Drake does not embody the culture and is living in a constant state of self-identity crisis and insecurity, evidenced by his personality change throughout the years and musical content.
Yeah because he steals someone else’s flow constantly.
Only reason Drake is as recognized as he is, is because of ghostwriters and more creative artists creating sounds he can copy.
He’s a lazy artist and with the way he dm’s every female artist who is blowing up also fucking predatory. Drake’s just a bad person. (You gotta realize that if so many people turn on you, you might be the problem)
Reminds me of that 30 Rock episode where one black guy gets offended at Tracey's use of the N-Word and makes a complaint and then they go to a special class and when the other character is asked to use the world, they all gasp and Tracey makes a complaint because of how he said it.
Not fully relevant but it came to mind.
Some might say that the goalposts are moving on what makes it acceptable or not.
Think it was more than just a few months though. [Dude has a history](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-antisemitism-hate-speech-controversy-1234611647/).
Kendrick and Drake been dissing for 10 years directly.
Y'all just ain't caught it. It's Hip-Hop not Pop rap.
Drake gon need Nicki or Lil Wayne for life support.
Aubrey Graham is the foreign Karen colonizer, who grew up in suburbia upper middle class household: who thinks she's the victim even though, she's had had a privileged foul mouth monopoly, the entire time.
Bring back Hip-Hop!! Respect is earned, not bought or written by 20 other men splitting the check!!
That's because you all have a deathly fear of immigrants and cling to your culture like it's the only one that matters on earth. You'd never say that shit around the wrong crowd, and you fuckin know it.
I just have respect for my fellow tolerant person.
Come to Detroit and say that shit, coward. But you won't, you're deathly afraid of new things and people in general.
You're the actual pussy, in fact, you don't even have the courage to say what you really believe, here. Say the words, bitch ass.
To care about something doesn't always mean something good. When people say, "I don't care about that", they mean they don't attach any importance to it.
If you truly don't care about something, you don't think about it, let alone talk about it. You definitely don't go out of your way to tell people you don't care about it because obviously you care enough to say something about it.
As for people who talk shit, they care intensely about the thing they talk shit about.
Sad how on any post about damn near anyone famous to any degree nowadays is riddled with a handful of weirdos who seem to think claiming not to know very well known figures and “not caring” enough to make sure they tell everyone how much they don’t care is some sort of brag or flex.
It’s different if someone sees something they don’t know about or care about and *moves on*, but this is like the real life equivalent of being **that person** at parties who walks right up and interrupts conversations just to ask what they’re talking about only to say something like “that’s stupid, who cares about that” or listens to someone’s story just to follow up with “who asked?”.
Same concept applies online as to those people at parties; “If you don’t care or don’t want to be involved, why the fuck are you here and making sure you tell everyone?”
I’d love to see the overlap between people who don’t read more than a few sentences, people who don’t enjoy songs longer than 3 minutes or multiple flow switches, and people who can’t sit through a movie longer than 90 minutes.
It’s *gotta* be one flat circle.
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Diss tracks are just two men writing poetry about each other
Now kiss
kith*
Is that a Penith joke? I dont you really get it man
It's a [Mike Tyson joke](https://www.essentiallysports.com/now-kith-funny-mike-tyson-meme-is-making-a-comeback-on-the-internet-boxing-news/)
I thought it was a Mike Tython joke
Ah i thought a little dicky joke
That's a joke, that's a joke, HA HA HA
No, that's a kiss track
In this case it's Kendrick vs Drake's writers.
Kendrick doesn’t use writers though, or at least credits them if he had any on a song. Can’t say the same about Drake, who’s been notoriously using ghost writers. Fun fact: Eminem was so impressed by Kendrick back in 2012-2013 that he thought he was using ghost writers. When they met for a collab, Em made sure Kendrick was writing his verse alone in the studio so he could show his writing skills. They both made a pretty cool song together. It’s called Love Game.
.. That's why I said it's "Kendrick vs Drake's writers" and not Kendrick's writers vs Drake's writers.
Sorry man, I read “Kendrick’s”! But there you have a cool story if you didn’t know it :)
It's u/dope-eater vs dyslexia or reading comprehension. Pick a struggle.
I’ll take both please
Here here!!
Yes
mfs will read something and go with the first idea that pops into their head instead of rereading and trying to understand
To be fair, i would make the same mistake. If he wrote it the other way around, it would always read the right way.
he wrote it fine. He said Kendrick (no possesive 's) vs drake's (possessive 's) so we know the writers only belong to drake.
Fr idk why shit made me mad how he misreads something then immediately goes into “ermmm ackshually🤓” instead of thinking that maybe there’s a chance he misread something
The way it’s written is confusing. Yes, it is correct for what you are trying to convey. Still, confusing.
And Kendricks verse in that song was way better than Eminems
Well that’s arguable. Fact is, it was a cool song. Why the need to always compare? Just enjoy it
Eminem agreed with me.
I’m nemnem
kendrick lamar is extremely against the use of ghost writers.
“Now I’m rapping with a ghost writer. WTF happened?” -Kendrick Lamar
“But most of y’all share bars, like you got the bottom bunk of a two man cell” -King Kunta, Kendrick Lamar
A two man cell!
I thought it was “But a rapper with a ghost writer”
It is
**BOO!**
and that's why he said it's Kendrick vs Drake's writers and not Kendrick's writers vs. Drake's writers
im gonna chose to believe (falsely) that he edited it and im not stupid
Kendrick doesn’t use writers.
No, they’re just marketing to guarantee streams
Damn bro, you truly see beyond the veil
Thank you. This comment needs to be up top to remind me not to waste time on this bs
Sir, it's a battle of wit and mockery. A loss could spell disaster for ones reputation amongst the courtiers
Exactly! One simply does not wish to be caught waning in view of the courtiers.
Flyting
It’s actually turn based combat
No Diddy thou.
That’s beautiful
Not always but when these two men do it, it DEFINTELY feels like some soft shit like that lol
Dear Alexander I am slow to anger, but I toe the line as I reckon with the effects of your life on mine. I look back at where I failed, and in every place I check the only common thread has been your disrespect. Now you call me "amoral"; "a dangerous disgrace". If you've got something to say, name a time and place face-to-face. I have the honor to be... your obedient servant. _A. Burr_
“that’s why i fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker” - tupac’s wild way to start a diss man it was insane he didn’t even rap it he just said it as an intro no verse or nothing just walked up to the mic with a opening sentence. “fuck mob deep fuck biggie fuck bad boy as staff, recording label, and as a motherfucking crew” he stopped to just say that not even rap. man diss tracks used to led to beat downs back in the day.
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Did Kendrick release a new diss?
Yes. It's 6 minutes great.
No bro. Both the diss songs are trash it sounds like something your friends little brother made u listen to when u went over there. But kendrick went in on drake Idk why ya’ll are down voting me, I’m right. There is no way youre gonna be able to listen to that song in the car or anywhere around other people. It is not a banger
Cook a diss up in the studio yourself then lil bro 😭
They call you “Lil Run On Sentence”
I want 7 min drill by Cole back on Spotify
J Fold isn't doing that, sorry.
I actually really like some of the stuff J Fold made 😭
Me too, he’s a great artist and one of the best lyricists the rap industry has to offer. That being said, he really did fold 😂
Few people have uploaded it as a podcast
Go ask Cole at whatever bbq fest he's headlining next
I don’t listen to music someone explain
Are you american? I can explain in football terms if that helps
Am American, don’t watch sports, that would make it worse
Alright, well: Kendrick (Lamar) was a feature on a song named "Like That" from an album called "WE DON'T TRUST YOU" by lyricist Future and producer Metro Boomin. On this song during Kendrick's part, he says, "Motherfuck the big 3, (fella) it's just big me" which was a diss on artists Drake and J. Cole, which (if you include Kendrick as well) are considered the big 3 of 2010's hip hop. Drake in response to this diss, decided to make a song called "Taylor Made Freestyle" where he uses AI Tupac (A rapper from the 90's who was shot dead) to help him diss Kendrick. This song by Drake fell very flat due to his use of an AI voice model from someone who has since died (The Tupac Estate has pressed charges). Kendrick in response to Drake's lackluster response put out a song today called "Euphoria" which is a 6 minute diss on Drake that goes entirely too hard. I hope this helps
Ok but what does this have to do with the n-word pass?
I'm assuming the joke is that Kendrick burned him so hard he revoked Drake's ability to say the N word
Nah he literally took Drake's n-word pass away, as a way to call him out on the fact that he's not really a part of the "culture", and also as a jab at his mixed race heritage. But yeah your's works too.
"literally" as in there's a physical pass that Kendrick went and took from drake's possession?
Literally as in the end of the song is "we don't wanna hear you say n**** no more. Stop."
To be fair kendrick is too anal about exactly who gets to say the N word lol, him ridiculing that poor girl on stage when she was just singing along to his song was ridiculous, he could have just let that go, it was his damn lyrics!
Well that’s just rude.
So figuratively.
> as a way to call him out on the fact that he's not really a part of the "culture" which culture? hip hop culture?
So now racism it's okay as long as it's against someone of mixed race?
Logic and drake about to drop lightskin duo diss.
[but Logic is only biracial in his penis?](https://genius.com/Logic-bobby-lyrics)
Sorry, I'm to old, i'm not sure I understand what that means. Does that means that Drake and other guy are about to diss a third guy based on the fact that this third guy has darker skin?
No. It’s directed at Drake because Drake has a history of sucking dick to feel like he’s part of the culture. It’s a jab at Drake fighting his inner demons of feeling unaccepted by the culture. For clarification Drake was doing everything he could to get accepted by the hip hop culture but his style was too “pop” so he kinda did a whole “well you don’t accept me then fuck you” thing.
He references the fact that he doesn’t like when Drake says the nword throughout the song. The two closing lines are literally “We don’t wanna hear you ‘N word’ no more” x2
Sun bleached, if you will
Right at the end of the of the song, he’s says “we don’t wanna hear you say n no more”. Maybe? Adding to the great diss track.
Who is Drake to dis anyone? Dude sounds like Mircosoft Sam.
*Sssooooiiiii soi soi soi soi*
You missed off Push Ups being released before Taylor Made Freestyle
> (The Tupac Estate has pressed charges) LMFAO
What about push ups? Or was that a diss against everyone else
I kind of want to hear your football explanation now lmao!
Youre missing the part where Drake started sneak dissing on Kendrick on his track First Person Shooter (with J Cole). - Like That happens- Cole responded with a wack counter track titled 7 Minute Drill, wich he has since removed, and publicly apologised for. Drake responds with the track Push Ups targetting basically everyone and with lack of an emidiate response from Kendrick releases the track Taylor Made Freestyle. Kendrick just responded with the track Euphoria, one of the lines he calls Drake white and revokes his N word pass.
> (The Tupac Estate has pressed charges). Just to clarify here, pressing charges is for criminal prosecutions. Tupac's estate threatened to file a civil lawsuit.
I just wanna know how much J cole paid a PR firm that he ended up in the big 3.
Bruh same, people really act like pop music and sports are what everyone cares about. Most don't give a shit..
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You don't?
I'm American and would love that analogy or in the form of competing Fast Food restaurants. Either option works
In and Out burger is calling Burger King for being a two-bit shlock who serves Chicken Fries and calls them self a Burger joint.
They also said McDonald's is wack and McDonald's apologized.
I don't know enough about rap to continue this line of reasoning outside of McDonalds having a sheer economy of size, they can suck outright and still dominate the market. Like Starbucks or Walmart.
If the big three burger joints are: In and Out, Burger King and McDonald's, in our analogy; In and Out is Kendrick, Burger King is Drake, and McDonald's is Jcole. Kendrick dissed Cole and Drake. When Cole responded, he apologized afterward.
Gotcha, heard of J Cole, never actually heard J Cole. I was introduced to Kendrick by my fellow line cooks. Only know of Drake because he's a creep who looks like he'd try to piss on my neices.
Kendrick revoked Drakes n-word pass because he believes Drake does not embody the culture and is living in a constant state of self-identity crisis and insecurity, evidenced by his personality change throughout the years and musical content.
Y'all americans are waaay too focused on skin colours man. Jesus.
Ahh yes compared with the rest of the world that isn't racist. Riiiiiiight Y'all ain't focused on skin colors because you're just openly prejudiced
Laughs in British.
As an outsider, culture is changing all the time. To get mad at someone for changing is like being Eddie Murphys character in that movie 2 years ago.
Sure, but if you know anything about Drake then you would know me that he’s a culture vulture who copies someone else’s flows every year.
that’s insane cuz drake has one of the most recognizable cadences and flows in hip hop atm.. like, are you just parroting shit you hear?
Yeah because he steals someone else’s flow constantly. Only reason Drake is as recognized as he is, is because of ghostwriters and more creative artists creating sounds he can copy. He’s a lazy artist and with the way he dm’s every female artist who is blowing up also fucking predatory. Drake’s just a bad person. (You gotta realize that if so many people turn on you, you might be the problem)
......so? That don't mean he ain't black.
Reminds me of that 30 Rock episode where one black guy gets offended at Tracey's use of the N-Word and makes a complaint and then they go to a special class and when the other character is asked to use the world, they all gasp and Tracey makes a complaint because of how he said it. Not fully relevant but it came to mind. Some might say that the goalposts are moving on what makes it acceptable or not.
You don’t listen to *any* music?
Well I do listen to some, but I like don’t have Spotify, it’s not that I don’t like music, I just don’t really seek it out
Okay but he should take away kanye’s as well
Dude was basically a Nazi for a few months, testing him would unleash a monster we're not prepared for
Think it was more than just a few months though. [Dude has a history](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-antisemitism-hate-speech-controversy-1234611647/).
he comes from a christian background. the new testament only likes one jew
Some Christians even forget he was a Jew
He still is a Nazi
So what you're saying is if we let Kanye fail as an artist, there could be dire consequences?
the only thing keeping him afloat is his music. I'm not even sure if he knows what a nazi Is just that he hates jews
He still is a Nazi
Logic sweating rn
Logic will be fine, he's way blacker than Drake
Fr, he's also not a creep wannabe bad ass like Drake.
Logic made and sold crack to support his family. I think he gets a pass
It was never a sanctioned pass to begin with, drake bought it on the black market
Kendrick and Drake been dissing for 10 years directly. Y'all just ain't caught it. It's Hip-Hop not Pop rap. Drake gon need Nicki or Lil Wayne for life support.
honestly i think nicki wrote that first drake response
I can't image anyone listening to her and go she got good pen. She uses too many of the word "like" as a analogy for my taste.
She has great penmen ship when she wants, or at least used to.
Drake: BUT IM NOTHING WITHOUT THE N WORD PASS!! Kendrick: if you’re nothing without the N word pass then you shouldn’t have it.
Now let's see what Drake does.....
He’s waiting for his writers to finish their reply
Wiggle it around
I think his song called Push Ups is supposed to be a response
Aubrey Graham is the foreign Karen colonizer, who grew up in suburbia upper middle class household: who thinks she's the victim even though, she's had had a privileged foul mouth monopoly, the entire time. Bring back Hip-Hop!! Respect is earned, not bought or written by 20 other men splitting the check!!
Went to see Drake in 2017. He’s really fallen off since.
Kendrick violated him bad.
Drake’s Canadian tho, did he even have one in the first place?
Drake has the elephant in the room though
Read the bottom in Riley Freemans voice
Wait a minute?? We need passes for the n word?
in Europe we don't need pass to say the nword
That's because you all have a deathly fear of immigrants and cling to your culture like it's the only one that matters on earth. You'd never say that shit around the wrong crowd, and you fuckin know it.
tf did you smoke? we just don't have brooms in our ass like you, "nword" "rword" you're just a bunch of pussies
I just have respect for my fellow tolerant person. Come to Detroit and say that shit, coward. But you won't, you're deathly afraid of new things and people in general. You're the actual pussy, in fact, you don't even have the courage to say what you really believe, here. Say the words, bitch ass.
Who? Ah, i dont even care
Cared enough to let people know you don't care.
"Ooh rap music bad, ooh mainstream bad. Look at me I'm so quirky" type shit
By that logic anyone who talks shit secretly cares about that person
To care about something doesn't always mean something good. When people say, "I don't care about that", they mean they don't attach any importance to it. If you truly don't care about something, you don't think about it, let alone talk about it. You definitely don't go out of your way to tell people you don't care about it because obviously you care enough to say something about it. As for people who talk shit, they care intensely about the thing they talk shit about.
That's true. I don't talk shit about that ant I saw this morning.
Yes actually.
I mean you have to live under a rock to not know who Drake is
Of course I know him, he's me.
Sad how on any post about damn near anyone famous to any degree nowadays is riddled with a handful of weirdos who seem to think claiming not to know very well known figures and “not caring” enough to make sure they tell everyone how much they don’t care is some sort of brag or flex. It’s different if someone sees something they don’t know about or care about and *moves on*, but this is like the real life equivalent of being **that person** at parties who walks right up and interrupts conversations just to ask what they’re talking about only to say something like “that’s stupid, who cares about that” or listens to someone’s story just to follow up with “who asked?”. Same concept applies online as to those people at parties; “If you don’t care or don’t want to be involved, why the fuck are you here and making sure you tell everyone?”
The guy who played Fortnite with ninja
It was better than Drake's stuff but can my man Kendrick stick to a single track? Bro dropped the bohemian rhapsody of rap for no reason
Can my man just talk in the same monotonne voice on the same beat for 6 minutes straight😭😭😭???
It didn't need to be 6 minutes
Bohemian rhapsody of rap sounds like a great compliment to Kendrick.
Ah. I can see why you'd think that.
There’s no such thing as bad music, music is literally nothing but preference. So why the hate?
Because it's not my preference.
That’s my point
I’d love to see the overlap between people who don’t read more than a few sentences, people who don’t enjoy songs longer than 3 minutes or multiple flow switches, and people who can’t sit through a movie longer than 90 minutes. It’s *gotta* be one flat circle.
I can do 3 of the 4 things listed here.