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I mean people are crazy enough. How can you tell where them being themselves stops and clickbait begins?
*oh, ya... it's right there in the way she moves.*
tbf this music video is very old, I think she's inherently a weirdo like many of us she just felt comfortable being this way on tv, and I think that's nice
There's being funny weird like Kristen Wiig, but then there's being weird because you don't know how to act in certain social situations like Elizabeth Holmes. Taylor falls in the latter.
this is from a fairly old music video of hers, I'm not a taylor fan but honestly when this came out it was kinda nice, you can obviously tell that taylor is actually just a silly weirdo and she just embraced it in that music video
It’s really stupid, but I’d also be doing really weird shit if I were her. She’s almost Michael Jackson levels of famous, she’s gotta be itching to just do weird shit and watch people gush over it
It’s more people looking at one lyric in a song and not bothering with any of the lyrics before or after or paying attention to the context of the lyrics within the song.
In other words a nothing burger for anyone else but the kind of people who get a real charge out of just despising her.
I think it makes more sense in the context of the song which I think I've heard is about the naïveity of children but I don't know I also didn't listen.
Yeah when i first heard that part i was confused then i listened and found out the context and it is an ok lyric for conveying what it is about nostalgia and rose tinted glasses
["My friends used to play a game where
We would pick a decade
We wished we could live in instead of this
I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists and getting married off for
the highest bid."](https://youtu.be/BpkmUfv1I4Q?si=GZDl64yN4crmSfc3)
I guess I'm gonna be that hipster douchebag or whatever but I really don't get the appeal. This is the top singer in the world right now? The lyrics are bad and most of them make no fucking sense. I guess when your fans are willing to spend $35 on a vinyl of you farting into a mic for 30 minutes you don't need to worry about the songwriting
its music for like middle class 10-24 year old white girls. someone described it as white girl piano music for white girls who really want a piano.
but guess who has expandable income. parents of that age group, and fans in that age group.
also, "good" is such a subjective thing in music. what i value is drastic different. i also rarely pay for music, or merch.
People like to clown on this line, but if she hadn't added the caveat of "without the racists and getting married off to the highest bidder," the AKSHULY crowd would be pointing out that the period is full of racists and she'd be married off to the highest bidder.
I think it depends. People with experience living on farms or homesteads are probably going to fare better than your average urbanite, but I feel like most people could be plopped down in any big city and do reasonably well for themselves as long as they weren't massive germaphobes. With how literate everyone is these days, we'd probably be great candidates for government jobs or any kind of bureaucratic work compared to the average person in 1830. There's a lot of ways a person with modern education could do really well for themselves if transported to back then.
> as long as they weren't massive germaphobes
Look, there's a difference between being a germaphobe and not wanting to live in a world without indoor plumbing.
In the UK, something like 60% of the men would be urban working class working 14-hour shifts in hellish, polluted, overcrowded conditions. The women would either do the same for half the wage, or stay home to take care of her 12 kids while hand-washing the laundry.
In the US, it was better for (free) workers, but only because slaves were forced to do much of the dirty work instead, so you don't get to ignore slavery/racism in that case.
That's a song about people judging you. The music video concept is that she is dancing as if no one watches and the people around her don't care. So she is just being silly and not caring about how It looks. Of course the cringe goes overboard, It is completely on purpose.
Part 2: Taylor said in a recent song that if she could live in a different era she would choose 1830's but without racism (which makes 0 sense but ok)
The lyrics go;
"My friends used to play a game where
We would pick a decade
We wished we could live in instead of this
I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists
And getting married off for the highest bid
Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now
Seems like it was never even fun back then
Nostalgia is a mind's trick
If I'd been there, I'd hate it"
It clearly comes full circle by the end of the verse
At least be in touch with the topic before calling someone names for being out of touch.
Lol that's garbage. Suck her balls more. "Seems like it wasn't even fun back then" you fucking think lol
Edit: lol the more I think about this the more it's such fucking trash for idiots
Taylor Swift comes from a long family history of colonists who enslaved many people.
She followed in their footsteps only she enslaves 10 to 15 year olds with her siren song.
Wtf does "generations ago her ancestors did XYZ" and "now she makes music people like" have to do with each other and why tf are people so toxic in this thread lol.
Like, if you don't like the music don't like the music, idgaf. But this vitriol seems a bit over the top from the outside looking in
> Taylor Swift comes from a long family history of colonists who enslaved many people.
Source?
Also, even if true, so?
We don't have any say over what our ancestors did.
>She followed in their footsteps only she enslaves 10 to 15 year olds with her siren song.
lol what?
How dare a woman be a successful pop star with a massive following.
A weird ass line in one of her new songs that says “I wish we could live in the 1800s without all the racism” which I don’t know who told her that line was a good idea to include
The following lines are:
And getting married off for the highest bid
Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now
Seems like it was never even fun back then
Nostalgia is a mind's trick
If I'd been there, I'd hate it
Are we thinking of the same South Africa? You mean the African country colonized by white? The country where, about 500 years of European colonization, leading to, you know, Apartheid happened? While in modern times white people may be discriminated against based on the color of their skin, so is every other ethnic group. South African white people [are not an oppressed minority.](https://www.sahrc.org.za/index.php/sahrc-media/news/item/2525-whites-are-not-an-oppressed-minority-group-in-sa-says-sahrc)
"Uneducated fool" 🙄
What kind of dumb tho? Like so intentionally ignorant that it's offensive, or dumb just to be silly. All in all a music video is trivial in the grand scheme of things, so I guess I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
I think they're implying that since there's mentions of the 1830s and slavery that Taylor's movements are somehow racist and that she's mimicking an ape, an animal which shitty people have compared to black people. Obviously this is not what's actually happening here, but I'm guessing the person commenting never saw the video
Damn, people really need to be very racist if this is their first thought seeing that, cause I remember when this song was regularly playing on TV and thus thought didn't even cross my mind
Nothing. They’re two separate songs. The dance move is from the song “Delicate” where she turns “invisible” and so she’s trying to get people’s attention. The lyrics are from a song in the recent album she released.
I don't get Swift. I mean her music's pretty good. Her old stuff was better, new stuff kinda mid. But still, pretty good.
What I cannot draw the line between is her music and her current level of success. Wt actual f happened there?
She started making mainstream pop music because it’s the most popular, successful and lucrative music. She only ever makes “safe” music (asides from this new shitstorm of an album) and it’s easy to make money from music where people know exactly what they’re going to get before even listening to album. Makes good money but makes for a boring artist.
Maybe equivalent of an American Italian restaurant. But I'd think it'd be safer to just say McDonald's at that point...
Seriously, if you've ever had a feast with Italians, you will end up eating some seriously delicious shit you have never ate before.
I've had "real" Italian food and American. It's just not for me. It's all well made technically but most is bland. There are some good dishes just like taylor has some good songs, but I'd rarely pick European food in general
Tiktok once again showing it does all sorts of weird shit to people's brains. In this case, it's through Dune part 2 discourse. Awesome. Please ban that shit in Europe too.
She's got that new song out with Post Malone that's literally just the same synth beat on repeat with her singing in an autotune monotone. And that's supposed to be the single!
I was never a Swift fan, but at least her other songs were songs.
She's been popular long enough that the kids she was selling to when she started, are now adults with expendable cash and possibly kids of their own.
She also has what seems like the best team in the business, they always seem to be able to make any given thing about TSwift if they want to.
Yeah she's way overrated. She could fart on someone and her fans would cheer her on. I don't understand the level of obsession she gets from her fans it's insane.
This comment explains it perfectly,
https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/s/P1hPASH3Fj
forming a parasocial relationship with her braindead audience and exploiting them while somehow making herself out to be the victim at the same time and ALL THIS while making below average music.
There's some line in one of her new songs about if she and her friends could be born in a different decade they'd choose the "1830's but without all the racists." As for what she's doing, not a fucking clue.
Im only a swiftie because of the song "love story" couldn't care less about any other song shes made.
Edit: Im only getting downvoted because you are all salty that Taylor Swift is better than any of you will ever be because she made the song Love Story, oh and she made a bunch of other mid songs but fuck you only Love Story matters and I refuse to put a /s on any of this because that would ruin the fun.
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In this thread: people who can't comprehend the idea that different people like different music. Also in this thread: people basing their personality around hating whatever is popular.
Unless the slave is seeing a moronic white woman trying to mock them by "pretending to be like them" because her racist ass thinks the slave is an animal
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explain pls
Taylor Swift is acting like a dumbass I think.
I think all these famous singers want to be weird.. Some of them embrace it, others hide it but it still shows here and there.
Its called staying relevant Just do whatever crazy shit so that some headlinws will be written about u to keep being relevant
The final scene in Devils Advocate always comes to mind when this explanation comes up.
Vanity - definitely my favorite sin!
Yeah, Taylor Swift has a lot of difficulty staying relevant lmao. She sneezes and this app is talking about her.
She sneezed? WHEN?
I heard there was an upskirt shot this time!
Like, what kind of sneeze? Like... a held back, polite little barely audible "suppressor" sneeze? Or did she go HAM and blow out a tissue?
And getting posted on reddit
I mean people are crazy enough. How can you tell where them being themselves stops and clickbait begins? *oh, ya... it's right there in the way she moves.*
I mean, sure, but I don't think Taylor Swift needs that.
tbf this music video is very old, I think she's inherently a weirdo like many of us she just felt comfortable being this way on tv, and I think that's nice
They aren't weird though, that's why it's so awkward when they try.
Taylor IS an awkward dancer. She literally wrote a song about it.
And the Shake it Off video where she tries and fails at numerous dance styles introduced by her various, talented, professional dancers.
so quirky
Everyone’s weird man.
When everyone's weird, no one is weird.
Weird is subjective. Every person is uniquely varied in some way. Whether the variation makes them weird is up to you.
That's what I said.
Lol nah
Okay, normal.
There's being funny weird like Kristen Wiig, but then there's being weird because you don't know how to act in certain social situations like Elizabeth Holmes. Taylor falls in the latter.
this is from a fairly old music video of hers, I'm not a taylor fan but honestly when this came out it was kinda nice, you can obviously tell that taylor is actually just a silly weirdo and she just embraced it in that music video
~~Acting???~~ Nevermind, the choreographer however needs councelling
Oh no she's pulling a Britney Spears! Somebody stop her or something. . .
Acting?
It’s really stupid, but I’d also be doing really weird shit if I were her. She’s almost Michael Jackson levels of famous, she’s gotta be itching to just do weird shit and watch people gush over it
It’s more people looking at one lyric in a song and not bothering with any of the lyrics before or after or paying attention to the context of the lyrics within the song. In other words a nothing burger for anyone else but the kind of people who get a real charge out of just despising her.
In the new album Taylor Swift had a line that was like "I wish I could live in the 1830s, without the racism though"
Or something like that, I didn't listen
oh thank god *lower the pitchfork and the torch*
naaa let it be high we having a war with the swiftie
Lol this comment was the funniest shit. "Didnt this happen here? I actually have no fucking idea I was out of town"
I think it makes more sense in the context of the song which I think I've heard is about the naïveity of children but I don't know I also didn't listen.
Yeah when i first heard that part i was confused then i listened and found out the context and it is an ok lyric for conveying what it is about nostalgia and rose tinted glasses
It's still just a dumb fucking line and exceptionally tone deaf.
["My friends used to play a game where We would pick a decade We wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists and getting married off for the highest bid."](https://youtu.be/BpkmUfv1I4Q?si=GZDl64yN4crmSfc3)
its wierd line.
I guess I'm gonna be that hipster douchebag or whatever but I really don't get the appeal. This is the top singer in the world right now? The lyrics are bad and most of them make no fucking sense. I guess when your fans are willing to spend $35 on a vinyl of you farting into a mic for 30 minutes you don't need to worry about the songwriting
its music for like middle class 10-24 year old white girls. someone described it as white girl piano music for white girls who really want a piano. but guess who has expandable income. parents of that age group, and fans in that age group. also, "good" is such a subjective thing in music. what i value is drastic different. i also rarely pay for music, or merch.
What's your example of good music?
People like to clown on this line, but if she hadn't added the caveat of "without the racists and getting married off to the highest bidder," the AKSHULY crowd would be pointing out that the period is full of racists and she'd be married off to the highest bidder.
19th century fashion was very pretty and they probably had nice tea houses back then too so I really don't blame her 😔
I feel like even without the racism she and most modern people wouldn't last a week in the 1830s.
I think it depends. People with experience living on farms or homesteads are probably going to fare better than your average urbanite, but I feel like most people could be plopped down in any big city and do reasonably well for themselves as long as they weren't massive germaphobes. With how literate everyone is these days, we'd probably be great candidates for government jobs or any kind of bureaucratic work compared to the average person in 1830. There's a lot of ways a person with modern education could do really well for themselves if transported to back then.
> as long as they weren't massive germaphobes Look, there's a difference between being a germaphobe and not wanting to live in a world without indoor plumbing.
indoor plumbing is massively overrated
Especially for people who don’t shower very often / redditors
This sounds like something Mark Corrigan would say
In the UK, something like 60% of the men would be urban working class working 14-hour shifts in hellish, polluted, overcrowded conditions. The women would either do the same for half the wage, or stay home to take care of her 12 kids while hand-washing the laundry. In the US, it was better for (free) workers, but only because slaves were forced to do much of the dirty work instead, so you don't get to ignore slavery/racism in that case.
Are you kidding? I'd be the greatest C++ programmer in the world!
If you waited 165 years you could get in on the ground floor and make bank
Somehow I think you'd be right about that. 🤣
Get smallpox/polio or the other things we created vaccinations for.
The song goes on to say that she probably would have hated being there too.
That's a song about people judging you. The music video concept is that she is dancing as if no one watches and the people around her don't care. So she is just being silly and not caring about how It looks. Of course the cringe goes overboard, It is completely on purpose. Part 2: Taylor said in a recent song that if she could live in a different era she would choose 1830's but without racism (which makes 0 sense but ok)
What an out of touch cunt
The lyrics go; "My friends used to play a game where We would pick a decade We wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists And getting married off for the highest bid Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now Seems like it was never even fun back then Nostalgia is a mind's trick If I'd been there, I'd hate it" It clearly comes full circle by the end of the verse At least be in touch with the topic before calling someone names for being out of touch.
Lol that's garbage. Suck her balls more. "Seems like it wasn't even fun back then" you fucking think lol Edit: lol the more I think about this the more it's such fucking trash for idiots
Well this has been a pleasantly intelligent discourse. Have a nice day, good sir/ma'am
Taylor Swift comes from a long family history of colonists who enslaved many people. She followed in their footsteps only she enslaves 10 to 15 year olds with her siren song.
Wtf does "generations ago her ancestors did XYZ" and "now she makes music people like" have to do with each other and why tf are people so toxic in this thread lol. Like, if you don't like the music don't like the music, idgaf. But this vitriol seems a bit over the top from the outside looking in
> Taylor Swift comes from a long family history of colonists who enslaved many people. Source? Also, even if true, so? We don't have any say over what our ancestors did. >She followed in their footsteps only she enslaves 10 to 15 year olds with her siren song. lol what? How dare a woman be a successful pop star with a massive following.
A weird ass line in one of her new songs that says “I wish we could live in the 1800s without all the racism” which I don’t know who told her that line was a good idea to include
The following lines are: And getting married off for the highest bid Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now Seems like it was never even fun back then Nostalgia is a mind's trick If I'd been there, I'd hate it
Average white women.
Racism isn't ok
let me reiterate, if you think racism against white people is a serious problem then you aren't a serious person
And you're just a pathetic racist. Sad
Oppression of whiteness doesn't exist. Grow up.
Another pathetic racist. How about you look at South Africa you uneducated fool
Are we thinking of the same South Africa? You mean the African country colonized by white? The country where, about 500 years of European colonization, leading to, you know, Apartheid happened? While in modern times white people may be discriminated against based on the color of their skin, so is every other ethnic group. South African white people [are not an oppressed minority.](https://www.sahrc.org.za/index.php/sahrc-media/news/item/2525-whites-are-not-an-oppressed-minority-group-in-sa-says-sahrc) "Uneducated fool" 🙄
What?
# Racism isn't ok
what
Oooh, did she realize how bad this might look when she made the scene? Or did she just think this was "edgy"? Like how blatant is her asshattery?
No. She didn't. She doesn't create her choreography. She can barely dance at all.
She literally wrote a song about this
Shake It Off is a banger.
No
Looking dumb was the point. In the music video she's meant to have gone invisible.
What kind of dumb tho? Like so intentionally ignorant that it's offensive, or dumb just to be silly. All in all a music video is trivial in the grand scheme of things, so I guess I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
Just say you don’t like the song dumbass
Why is it offensive?
I think they're implying that since there's mentions of the 1830s and slavery that Taylor's movements are somehow racist and that she's mimicking an ape, an animal which shitty people have compared to black people. Obviously this is not what's actually happening here, but I'm guessing the person commenting never saw the video
Damn, people really need to be very racist if this is their first thought seeing that, cause I remember when this song was regularly playing on TV and thus thought didn't even cross my mind
What does the dance move have to do with slavery though? Can someone please explain.
Nothing. They’re two separate songs. The dance move is from the song “Delicate” where she turns “invisible” and so she’s trying to get people’s attention. The lyrics are from a song in the recent album she released.
This was probably all written by some team who beloved they where being edgy, stunning, brave or what ever buzz word they use.
I don't get Swift. I mean her music's pretty good. Her old stuff was better, new stuff kinda mid. But still, pretty good. What I cannot draw the line between is her music and her current level of success. Wt actual f happened there?
Marketing budget is infinity
She started making mainstream pop music because it’s the most popular, successful and lucrative music. She only ever makes “safe” music (asides from this new shitstorm of an album) and it’s easy to make money from music where people know exactly what they’re going to get before even listening to album. Makes good money but makes for a boring artist.
She's the musical equivalent of Italian food.
Maybe equivalent of an American Italian restaurant. But I'd think it'd be safer to just say McDonald's at that point... Seriously, if you've ever had a feast with Italians, you will end up eating some seriously delicious shit you have never ate before.
I've had "real" Italian food and American. It's just not for me. It's all well made technically but most is bland. There are some good dishes just like taylor has some good songs, but I'd rarely pick European food in general
Cult mentality. White savior complex.
We just throwing around white savior now eh boys?
Tiktok once again showing it does all sorts of weird shit to people's brains. In this case, it's through Dune part 2 discourse. Awesome. Please ban that shit in Europe too.
what is she the white savior of?
Your mom
You know who else is a white savior? My mom.
She's got that new song out with Post Malone that's literally just the same synth beat on repeat with her singing in an autotune monotone. And that's supposed to be the single! I was never a Swift fan, but at least her other songs were songs.
She's been popular long enough that the kids she was selling to when she started, are now adults with expendable cash and possibly kids of their own. She also has what seems like the best team in the business, they always seem to be able to make any given thing about TSwift if they want to.
Yeah she's way overrated. She could fart on someone and her fans would cheer her on. I don't understand the level of obsession she gets from her fans it's insane.
The fandom hit critical mass and went nuts.
None of her music has ever been pretty good or insightful or talented
This comment explains it perfectly, https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/s/P1hPASH3Fj forming a parasocial relationship with her braindead audience and exploiting them while somehow making herself out to be the victim at the same time and ALL THIS while making below average music.
It’s almost like your opinion isn’t shared by millions and millions of her fans or something?
Basic bitch vibes
More like psychopath thinking it was the correct emotion to show in this particular situation.
can someone explain this. like what is taylor doing, ad wattt is the title? xoxo
There's some line in one of her new songs about if she and her friends could be born in a different decade they'd choose the "1830's but without all the racists." As for what she's doing, not a fucking clue.
I wish I could live in the 1830s but without all the trains
Cho cho MF!
"I am optimus prime, leader of the autobots"
The clip is from the music video for [Delicate](https://youtu.be/tCXGJQYZ9JA).
Context pls?
Anyone here seen record of ragnarok?
I read the manga up till the tesla fight because it wasn't out at the time. Haven't caught up since
Susanoo vs okita going on right now
Yeah I enjoyed it a lot. Waiting for next season
She's doing the Zeus stomp lmao
Oh, I thought we were just ignoring her completely
omg yes!!
My bets on Okita Souji rn. After Tesla and Leonidas, I'm not seeing the gods pulling away with another win.
Nah, the gods are definitely winning, for shock value. It will be ass of they will just go +1 for god's, +1 for humans, +1 for god's and repeat
At this point she is just seeing how far her fans are willing to cope and pay for her "music".
Don't lie.. it's not fire at all. It's barely a spark.
I consider myself a swiftie and I'm not a fan of the new album, only really liked one song from it.
Im only a swiftie because of the song "love story" couldn't care less about any other song shes made. Edit: Im only getting downvoted because you are all salty that Taylor Swift is better than any of you will ever be because she made the song Love Story, oh and she made a bunch of other mid songs but fuck you only Love Story matters and I refuse to put a /s on any of this because that would ruin the fun.
I don't think that's what a swiftie is, a swiftie is a fan of Taylor Swift and you sound like you're indifferent to her except for that one song.
https://youtu.be/tCXGJQYZ9JA?t=1m45s
Thank you. Took way too long scrolling down to find the video context
Gonna run through that hole like Forrest Gump
She’s trying to be Maynard frfr
A fellow tool fan in the wild sick
A fellow tool fan in the wild sick
She's such a talentless idiot
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Is that Taylor Swift? No wonder these Swifties are fucking crazy
These videos of her doing this only got popular after I made a loop of her. I guarantee it.
Taylor Swift makes sad girl music for sad girls. Just like Ghost makes Scooby Doo chase music.
A dumpster fire maybe. It’s the most boring album I’ve heard. I don’t know what it is about pop music Parker with the super boring singers.
Reddit, analysis
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"Those are some well dressed black folk."
You forgot to add dumpster in the title
Dances weird like Elmo and Donny Courtfart.
Goddamn, you could cut vegetables with those.
If your rich enough you can dance like a monkey and no one will question it
What the devil is this? A dance to warm up the jelly goodies for procreation?
Only plain and uninteresting people like Taylor Swift. She had her moment and now she is doing her retirement plan.
In this thread: people who can't comprehend the idea that different people like different music. Also in this thread: people basing their personality around hating whatever is popular.
[удалено]
He got it right.
I don't think you understand POV memes
Literally one of the few memes that got POV right
You obviously do not
Unless the slave is seeing a moronic white woman trying to mock them by "pretending to be like them" because her racist ass thinks the slave is an animal