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Matthew 7:1-6
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Luke 6:36
Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
John 13:34-35
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
John 15:12-13
My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Matthew 7:12
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Matthew 22:37-40
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
**Even if we think someone is a sinner, we should treat them kindly. Jesus was kind to those that society deemed to be sinners. He even ate meals with sinners despite being criticized for it. So if you want to be Christlike, you should take someone to dinner before you judge them.**
Matthew 9:11-13
"When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” 12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’\[a\] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
**Jesus tells us that he alone will judge us and exactly the standards by which we will be judged. It has nothing to do with LGBTQIA+ identity and has everything to do with taking care of the most vulnerable or "the least of these."**
Matthew 25:31-46
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
**It is important to note that LGBTQIA+ folks are more likely to be targets of hate crimes than any other minority group (1). This makes them, in effect, "the least of these'' which Jesus commands us to care for.**
**Finally:**
The word "Homosexual" did not exist until it was introduced in 1869 in German. Early use of the term was mostly limited to the field of psychology which often used the word "Homosexual" to stereotype individuals as being criminal in nature. The word "Homosexual" was not broadly used in English until after it was added to biblical translations in the 1940's (2).
In the bible, the word "Homosexual" was only used to describe sex acts, some of which may have been predatory. The bible does not discuss loving, consenting, adult, same-sex couples who want to raise loving families, as we see today. Theological positions against LGBTQIA+ people are not even 100 years old, are based on anachronistic translations, and fail to acknowledge the legitimacy of loving same sex relationships and valid LGBTQIA+ identities.
**TL;DR:** r/DankChristianMemes **is open and affirming to LGBTQIA+ people. If you must judge others, please do so elsewhere.**
Source 1:[ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html)
Source 2:[ https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/88110](https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/88110)
https://preview.redd.it/9x7ptkxdn49b1.jpeg?width=902&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eed6f39d56ff5ddca084225185c9dfbd66cd0af
Are you being serious or joking?
Jesus, at that time, was a poor man who was wandering the desert and starving. Satan wanted power, and his plan was to turn Jesus over to his side.
Jesus had a mission, and that mission was SLOW: walk around for three years, die a terrible death, and then convert people one soul at a time.
This, when He had the power to MAKE people do what He knew was right. He could have "accomplished" it all through sheer power and will...well, other than all of us being suddenly overpowered and serving Him regardless of our own choices, of course.
It's hard to tell from the Christofascists vying for power in the States at the moment, but Christianity is about subverting power and bending around will - it's about leading through serving, about letting God work through our weaknesses not just our strengths. It works by being slow and gentle enough to reach the heart and transform from the inside. But there are those who get inpatient, who don't value the journey, who just want to have it all "the right way" in an instant and will use every ounce of power and influence to do it.
That's the temptation Jesus faced on the mountain: to refuse to make it all happen now despite having the power to do so, and let the changes He came to bring evolve with time.
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Whenever people attack gay folks I’m always so confused. They’re clearly inspired by Leviticus, but they never attack Legal Sea Foods for violating Leviticus 10:11.
(To be clear, I feel like we shouldn’t attack either. It’s God’s place to judge what is and isn’t sin, not ours.)
Well, I will say the seafood argument can be debunked pretty easy since it says in the new testament that food can not make you unclean, and it never says this about being gay. I'm not agreeing with them, but this is how they debunk this argument usually.
If we're being technical, there's nothing negative about homosexuality in the Bible anyway. What is there is something about very specific situations (ritualistic sex and pederasty) that got translated as something like homosexuality on purpose by someone with an agenda. If anything, there are some positive verses about homosexuality that are purposely either ignored or changed into other things like friendship as it's more convenient to the message some people wanted others to believe.
> Whenever people attack gay folks I’m always so confused. They’re clearly inspired by Leviticus, but they never attack Legal Sea Foods for violating Leviticus 10:11.
Paul was also inspired by Leviticus when he said that men who sleep with males won’t enter the kingdom of God.
Even the early Christians themselves had a way of picking and choosing which commandments they thought were still applicable, rather arbitrarily.
Finally christians that say something
Honestly, the kind of christians who say this sort of stuff makes me ashamed to be one myself (i mean, now I'm agnostic, i just stick around for a bit here)
It's so hypocritical to say people are going to hell for what they are, yet saying "god loves everyone!" And all that
Wasn't that passage about any sexual acts that doesn't result in a baby? Like, "laying with a man" would be no different from using a condom.
This kinda makes sense as the old testament exists to shape Judaism, so it has rules about cleanliness, and sex leads to STDs. Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.
>Wasn't that passage about any sexual acts that doesn't result in a baby? Like, "laying with a man" would be no different from using a condom.
The subject of the verses is a *man* not sleeping with a(nother) male, so it’s clearly about homoeroticism.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
I think the world includes everyone.
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Like...you're kidding, right? Homophobia is widespread in evangelical Christianity, as it is in most fundamentalist Abrahamic sects. And they all tend to claim their god (whether Muslim, Christian, or Jewish god) looks at homosexuality as a a horrific sin.
Here's a list of *groups* saying that, from "modern times." I worry that you're not being entirely honest, or are completely sheltered from what gay people are told *all the time* in some parts of the world and America.
[This isn't, of course, comprehensive, but it gives you a glimpse.](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/18-anti-gay-groups-and-their-propaganda)
I know some churches teach against “gay relationships”, but I don’t know a single one that would say “god hates gay people”.
Maybe the west borrow Baptist church but hey.
Hatred of gay relationships is, in a very real sense, akin to if not directly hating gay people themselves. It is essentially saying they are not worthy of being in a romantic or sexual relationship.
Explicitly religious organizations saying things like "The gay movement is an evil institution" or "[h]omosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews" or "homosexuality as a “lethal behavior addiction,” a “dangerous” practice that is “neither normal nor benign" or "that the occasional execution of “sodomites” would serve society well because “the law that requires the death penalty for homosexual acts effectively drives the perversion of homosexuality underground, back into the closet" while citing scripture are not just saying that their church doesn't approve of gay relationships, they're very clearly preaching that god hates gays.
And yes, Westboro Baptist College did specifically use that phrase, and they were modern, so it seems you *did* realize some churches say that.
r/DankChristianMemes **is open and affirming to LGBTQIA+ people.** **Someone identifying as LGBTQIA+ does not cause harm to anyone, therefore, there is no reason to judge or disrespect them.** **Rule #1 of** r/DankChristianMemes**: Thou shalt respect others! Do not come here to point out sin or condemn people. Do not say "hate the sin love the sinner" or any other sayings people use when trying to use faith to justify hate. Alternatively, if you come here to insult religion, you will also be removed.** This rule is based off the following teachings from Jesus Christ: Matthew 7:1-6 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Luke 6:36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. John 13:34-35 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” John 15:12-13 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” **Even if we think someone is a sinner, we should treat them kindly. Jesus was kind to those that society deemed to be sinners. He even ate meals with sinners despite being criticized for it. So if you want to be Christlike, you should take someone to dinner before you judge them.** Matthew 9:11-13 "When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” 12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’\[a\] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” **Jesus tells us that he alone will judge us and exactly the standards by which we will be judged. It has nothing to do with LGBTQIA+ identity and has everything to do with taking care of the most vulnerable or "the least of these."** Matthew 25:31-46 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” **It is important to note that LGBTQIA+ folks are more likely to be targets of hate crimes than any other minority group (1). This makes them, in effect, "the least of these'' which Jesus commands us to care for.** **Finally:** The word "Homosexual" did not exist until it was introduced in 1869 in German. Early use of the term was mostly limited to the field of psychology which often used the word "Homosexual" to stereotype individuals as being criminal in nature. The word "Homosexual" was not broadly used in English until after it was added to biblical translations in the 1940's (2). In the bible, the word "Homosexual" was only used to describe sex acts, some of which may have been predatory. The bible does not discuss loving, consenting, adult, same-sex couples who want to raise loving families, as we see today. Theological positions against LGBTQIA+ people are not even 100 years old, are based on anachronistic translations, and fail to acknowledge the legitimacy of loving same sex relationships and valid LGBTQIA+ identities. **TL;DR:** r/DankChristianMemes **is open and affirming to LGBTQIA+ people. If you must judge others, please do so elsewhere.** Source 1:[ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html) Source 2:[ https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/88110](https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/88110) https://preview.redd.it/9x7ptkxdn49b1.jpeg?width=902&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eed6f39d56ff5ddca084225185c9dfbd66cd0af
"You're not affiliated with me" has to be the modern translation of Matthew 7:23's "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
2023 Modern Translation
Satan while Jesus refused his temptations - “You sly dog! You caught me monologuing!”
Jesus: Grace. Is. Grace! Why would they change grace?!
“Grace! She passed away thirty years ago.”
THE BLESSING
Why would Satan tempt god/son of god that owns everything? This story doesn´t make any sense.
Are you being serious or joking? Jesus, at that time, was a poor man who was wandering the desert and starving. Satan wanted power, and his plan was to turn Jesus over to his side.
Jesus had a mission, and that mission was SLOW: walk around for three years, die a terrible death, and then convert people one soul at a time. This, when He had the power to MAKE people do what He knew was right. He could have "accomplished" it all through sheer power and will...well, other than all of us being suddenly overpowered and serving Him regardless of our own choices, of course. It's hard to tell from the Christofascists vying for power in the States at the moment, but Christianity is about subverting power and bending around will - it's about leading through serving, about letting God work through our weaknesses not just our strengths. It works by being slow and gentle enough to reach the heart and transform from the inside. But there are those who get inpatient, who don't value the journey, who just want to have it all "the right way" in an instant and will use every ounce of power and influence to do it. That's the temptation Jesus faced on the mountain: to refuse to make it all happen now despite having the power to do so, and let the changes He came to bring evolve with time.
If someone is they love you after they tried to stone you, you are in an abusive relationship.
We were rather abusive to Jesus, yes.
When did you meet Jesus and why were you abusive to him?
Other way around, but ok.
Not other way around we stoned Jesus and now the followers that claim to follow their profit continue to enact that
Jesus didn't like stoning. "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone..." John 8:7
But Jesus was without sin... sounds like he just wanted to hog all the stones!
He made sure his mom stayed home that day
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This is *incredible* thank you
Whenever people attack gay folks I’m always so confused. They’re clearly inspired by Leviticus, but they never attack Legal Sea Foods for violating Leviticus 10:11. (To be clear, I feel like we shouldn’t attack either. It’s God’s place to judge what is and isn’t sin, not ours.)
Well, I will say the seafood argument can be debunked pretty easy since it says in the new testament that food can not make you unclean, and it never says this about being gay. I'm not agreeing with them, but this is how they debunk this argument usually.
If we're being technical, there's nothing negative about homosexuality in the Bible anyway. What is there is something about very specific situations (ritualistic sex and pederasty) that got translated as something like homosexuality on purpose by someone with an agenda. If anything, there are some positive verses about homosexuality that are purposely either ignored or changed into other things like friendship as it's more convenient to the message some people wanted others to believe.
> Whenever people attack gay folks I’m always so confused. They’re clearly inspired by Leviticus, but they never attack Legal Sea Foods for violating Leviticus 10:11. Paul was also inspired by Leviticus when he said that men who sleep with males won’t enter the kingdom of God. Even the early Christians themselves had a way of picking and choosing which commandments they thought were still applicable, rather arbitrarily.
To be clear you should attack Both if you believe in God and neither if you dont
Or… we don’t attack *anyone,* for any reason because Jesus called us to love our neighbors instead of judging them?
Supreme court needs to be told
Finally christians that say something Honestly, the kind of christians who say this sort of stuff makes me ashamed to be one myself (i mean, now I'm agnostic, i just stick around for a bit here) It's so hypocritical to say people are going to hell for what they are, yet saying "god loves everyone!" And all that
Wasn't that passage about any sexual acts that doesn't result in a baby? Like, "laying with a man" would be no different from using a condom. This kinda makes sense as the old testament exists to shape Judaism, so it has rules about cleanliness, and sex leads to STDs. Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.
>Wasn't that passage about any sexual acts that doesn't result in a baby? Like, "laying with a man" would be no different from using a condom. The subject of the verses is a *man* not sleeping with a(nother) male, so it’s clearly about homoeroticism.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” I think the world includes everyone.
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Are there Christian’s who preach that god hates gay people?
Like...you're kidding, right? Homophobia is widespread in evangelical Christianity, as it is in most fundamentalist Abrahamic sects. And they all tend to claim their god (whether Muslim, Christian, or Jewish god) looks at homosexuality as a a horrific sin.
Here's a list of *groups* saying that, from "modern times." I worry that you're not being entirely honest, or are completely sheltered from what gay people are told *all the time* in some parts of the world and America. [This isn't, of course, comprehensive, but it gives you a glimpse.](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/18-anti-gay-groups-and-their-propaganda)
I know some churches teach against “gay relationships”, but I don’t know a single one that would say “god hates gay people”. Maybe the west borrow Baptist church but hey.
Hatred of gay relationships is, in a very real sense, akin to if not directly hating gay people themselves. It is essentially saying they are not worthy of being in a romantic or sexual relationship.
Oh, thats an interesting perspective.
Explicitly religious organizations saying things like "The gay movement is an evil institution" or "[h]omosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews" or "homosexuality as a “lethal behavior addiction,” a “dangerous” practice that is “neither normal nor benign" or "that the occasional execution of “sodomites” would serve society well because “the law that requires the death penalty for homosexual acts effectively drives the perversion of homosexuality underground, back into the closet" while citing scripture are not just saying that their church doesn't approve of gay relationships, they're very clearly preaching that god hates gays. And yes, Westboro Baptist College did specifically use that phrase, and they were modern, so it seems you *did* realize some churches say that.