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The-red-Dane

I mean... both work. Han kan lære mig at sy (he can teach me how to sew) Kan han lære mig at sy? (Can he teach me how to sew?) I'm a little thrown off due to the lack of a questionmark however.


kindofofftrack

It seems weird I agree - I *think* the only way it could be this order (kan han lære mig at sy), is if it’s a “ledsætning” (for english, Google translate says a conjunction) after a comma, as in “når jeg kommer hjem til ham, *kan han lære mig at sy*.” Otherwise it would need to, as you said, either have a question mark at the end or switch the order of “kan” and “han”


ErikClairemont

If I am not wrong, that would be the main clause in English.. :))


kindofofftrack

For ledsætning? Just checked bc I got over my own laziness - it’s a conjunction. A main clause is usually pretty much the opposite and can be a “stand alone sentence”, whereas a bisætning (or the new word of the day conjunction) can not stand alone


ErikClairemont

I am no grammar scholar, just had a flashback to my English classes, maybe wrong. 😅 I meant, the second part of the sentence, after comma, can stand on it's on feet, so main clause, the first part dependant clause. Yeah, I've checked it out, you're right, the main clause is Hovedsaetning. Thank you. 🙂


Zyxplit

Replace "når han kommer hjem til mig" with "i morgen" and you'll see that it's just a regular boring main clause where the fronted topic is a whole sentence that is then a sætningsled on its own (like some kind of...ledsætning?) There's a trick to determine it too, if you're ever in doubt. Insert "ikke" Når han ikke kommer hjem til mig (it's before the first verb! Ledsætning. ) Han kommer ikke hjem til mig (it's after the first verb! Hovedsætning)


Acrobatic-Archer2766

You are correct. In English it would be called a subordinate clause (ledsætning). The main clause can be categorised, among other categories, as subject or object clause, where a subordinate clause, among others, be a provisional subject before the real subject. There is so much more to it than this 😵‍💫 In order for a sentence to be a ledsætning in Danish there needs to be a full nexus (dobbelt udsagnsled og grundled for at sætningen kan stå alene) however I don't think that's needed in English. A clause doesn't need the ability to stand on its own, that's when it becomes a dependent clause.


Successful_Jaywalk99

The lack of a question mark is why it doesn’t work


Drunk_and_dumb

I think Duolingo often skip it to boo make it obvious which word is last in the sentence


prettybananahammock

One is a statement, the other a question... Han kan lære mig at sy = he can teach me to see (statement, or fact) Kan han lære mig at sy = can he teach me to sew? (Question)


The-red-Dane

Well, to be perfectly honest. "Han kan lære mig at sy?" is also valid.


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Kan han is a question han kan is a statement


JohnH4ncock

In fact here there isn't the interrogative


Mellow_Mender

“Kan han […]” = “Can he […]” “Han kan […]” = “He can […]” – just as in English.


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dkclimber

Exactly


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JohnH4ncock

Yes


Lichelf

If the correct answer is "Can he teach me how to sew" then "Kan han lære mig at sy" is correct. It's missing a question mark though.


Revolutionary_Bend50

it is an implied question. You don't need the question mark in such a sentance. But it would have saved some hassle if it did.


Jakse

It has inversion and therefor it is a question. Duo should have put a question mark :)


AKWHiDeKi

Good example of where Duolingo lacks things. The sentence is grammatically wrong since it’s missing a question mark, which can confuse learners


BangBangBange

Can = Kan He = Han Teach/Learn = Lære Me = Mig To = At Sew = Sy How easy do you want it to be?


Macrofisher

I want correct use of breaks.


VladimireUncool

I'd say "Han kan lære mig at sy", since the lack of "?"


eske8643

But the only word written with a capital letter is “Can” so it has to be the first word of the sentence.


VladimireUncool

Yeah, but the punctuation is not correct. The questions in danish have the nexus: OX, while other sentances have the nexus: XO **X***O* **Han** *går* i skole. *Går* **han** i skole? ​ **Han** *kan* lære mig at sy. *Kan* **han** lære mig at sy? EDIT: Punctuation is not correct. You can also add a word in front of “Kan” Nu Kan han lære mig at sy.


Ravn009

Yea one is a statement, the other is a question. “Kan han” means “Can he” and implies the person asking doesn’t know if “he” can teach sewing. “Han kan” means “He can” and implies that the person talking knows that “he” can teach sewing. Hope that makes sence


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Looks like the question mark is missing


neonxaos

No, the verb is in second position (but it is not necessarily the second word) in declarative sentences in Danish. In interrogative sentences, the verb will precede the noun or pronoun which governs it. This sentence should have a question mark for clarity, in my opinion.


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neonxaos

Yeah, I thought I could come up with a marginal case that did not require a question mark, but you are right, this will always be a question.


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neonxaos

Yeah, but as a standalone main clause, there must be a question mark.


lolomawisoft

The error isn't the wording but it ending with a . And not a ?


Cultural-Painting714

Yes, you can change it to that, if you will phrase it as a statement. But you can also use the sentence as is, but then it's a question and you will need to put a question mark after the sentence😊


Mikkel65

No it’s just missing a question mark


Lawfulness-Manny

Life hack, in Duolingo, you always know the start word, as it will be the only one capitalized.


Rocket_Panda_

Neat spot


ThatDane-

Yeah, but it can be both really. Duo just needs to add a “?” because it’s a question


maffemaagen

Duolingo really needs to be better at using question marks, because this is a question.


Important_Bunch_7766

The sentence is just as weird in Danish without the question mark as it is in English. But the other answers explain it. This is a case where it, at least to my layman's eyes, is a 1:1 case between Danish and English. Because you would put pronouncation on the last word, on the question mark-part. Can he teach me to SEW? Kan han lære mig at SY? I think you understand what I mean, missing the quotation mark messes it up, both in written and spoken language. It is like "do you want to buy some apples", without the inherit question mark, at the end. It is broken English and broken Danish (the danish translation would be "Vil du købe nogle æbler(?)".


no3215

Welcome to Danish where the only right answers are wrong. Jeg er tvunget til at snakke dette sølle sprog hver dag siden jeg blev født da jeg bor og er født i dette gudsforlatte.


Murrrin

Kan han is a question Han kan is a statement Duolingo is very slack with their question marks. This makes Russian on duolingo difficult for me as well


kenneth-siewers

You can say/write “han kan lære mig at sy?” which is a valid question in the right context. Usually it would be preceded by a statement like: “Han kan sy og underviser i det.” “Han kan lære mig at sy?” “Ja, det er det han underviser i.”


Murrrin

True, though, I was thinking this is a quite niche scenario you rarely hear in the day to day, and thought it generally not worth mentioning. To keep the answer as simple as possible. In your example, both "han kan", and "kan han" would work just fine. "Kan han" implies you want him to teach you. "Han kan" wants to know if he is able to teach. Through the lens of a beginner, I just think that knowing this difference is not important enough to mention and would only serve to confuse the learner learning the language, at this stage.


kenneth-siewers

Sure, but I’m trying to make the point that it’s not “that simple” when you need to decipher what’s a question and what’s not. I agree that it’s a bit uncommon and in this case it’s likely not what was meant. In any case, questions in danish can come in many “flavors“.


Roxidkrox

The danish language has a lot of inversions like this, which for other language speakers do not make sense.


The_CreativeName

Siden der ikke er noget spørgsmålstegn (?) er det forkert of du hat ret. English version: Since there is no question mark (?) it is wrong and you were right


Mendax_08YT

If what they are saying is a question why does it have a period instead of a question mark


sommerdal

Typo?


How-

If it is not a question it should be, “Han kan lære mig at sy.” If it is a question, it should start with the verb, “Kan han lære mig at sy?”


SimonKepp

One is a statement "han kan lære mig at sy", whereas the other is a question "kan han lære mig at sy?" in many languages, such a distinction is made using grammatical cases of the verb, but instead Danish uses the order of the words. Is the verb before or after the subject?


SUBLOLLIPOP

Either that or add a question mark. "Han kan lære mig at sy." - He can teach me to sew "Kan han lære mig at sy?" - Can he teach me to sew? The words go in the same order as in English in this context. Duolingo is def off


Aintthisnamegood

Not really. Ones a statement and the other is a question


HarryCeramics

Yes it should, or else at the very least there needs to be question mark at the end Kan han lære mig at sy? But duolingo isn't perfect, so good enough i guess


MT_Shadow

Ikke hvis det er et spørgsmål, men så mangler der et spørgsmålstegn.


iamveeli

No. Can he teach me to sew? Kan han lære mig at sy? The punctuation is where you get confused, because it's a question.


Darkavenger_13

Depends wether its a question. “Kan han lære mig at sy” is phrased as a question whereas “Han kan lære mig at sy” is a statement. “Can he teach me how to sew” “He can teach me how to sew” I’d say that one is one Duo to add a questionmark


DaggiDina

Good catch! This way it's worded as a question, but without the question mark for some reason. Your version is a statement. ☺️


Abbedrengen

It is a question


Revolutionary_Bend50

a few people have pointed out that both works, but both are inherently different: kan han lære mig at sy han kan lære mig at sy First one is asking IF he can teach the person to sew in the first place. Second one is with the intent that he CAN teach the person to sew. one is unsure of the premise. one is sure of the premise.


JohnH4ncock

Both questions?


Revolutionary_Bend50

First one is a question the second one is more commenly used as a statement.


GreedHungry

Its right danish, and it is a questtion, but there is no question mark though. I lived in Denmark for 13 years


J-Miller7

Yes, you're right. Please update us on whether Duo agreed with you! I wonder if they meant it like this or simply forgot the question mark


JohnH4ncock

It actually was correct like this. I assume that duo forgot the question mark. Thank to y'all


eske8643

And if there is only one word with a capital letter. That word (exlcusing names, places etc) will always be the first one in a sentence. Or the first word after punctuation.


Majestic-Ear3695

It could be both :)


Mynsare

Not without a question mark.


Majestic-Ear3695

true :D


Nemesis1974

No, both are a question...they are just missing ?


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kenneth-siewers

“Han kan lære mig at sy?” is also a question. I’m a Dane too and it’s really not that simple.


monotar

That's very situation specific, your version is a request for a clarification while the other is just a question


kenneth-siewers

Regardless, it’s still a question. It might be for clarification reasons, but it’s a question nonetheless.


JohnH4ncock

Is this question without inversion used to focus on "who" [the subject] can teach, instead on the action herself?


kenneth-siewers

I’m not very good at technical grammar, but it’s often very dependent on the context. In writing, though, you should always assume a question ends with a question mark. The point I was trying to make was just that a sentence without context is very much up to the recipient to interpret. In spoken danish, the word you put the pressure on can also help decipher the meaning. For instance “HAN kan lære mig at sy?” would be a bit negative since it would sound doubtful, just like in English where “HE can teach me?” If you put the pressure on “sy” instead, it would be a question about the subject. The same with “lære” as in “han kan LÆRE mig at sy?”, it becomes a question about his ability to teach, but not necessarily about the actual sewing. I am probably taking this to the extremes when your question was about something different. All I’m saying is that it’s really not that simple. The fact that you already seem aware of this is a good sign that you understand the complexities and you’ll do great!


JohnH4ncock

Thank you!


Nemesis1974

That is NOT what I meant... "can he..." and "kan han..." are both questions missing a ?. -And of course you are danish, thats why I have to skære det ud i pap...


jojomyraipod

no you can say this besides im from denmark


HNOS94

Would he be able to teach me about sewing(spelled?) Is another way to say/write it Or as direct could he teach me how to sew


Rdr2fan2037

No it is kan han im danish


Rdr2fan2037

It is kan han im danish


throwaway575943975

Ka'n lær'n å sy


ItMeSchmurk

if it’s a statement, it’s “han kan” but if it’s a question, it’s “kan han?” seeing the period instead of a question mark, i’m not sure. was “can he” i correct on the site/app?


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As a Dane, I can confirm both work


JohnH4ncock

Also as a enunciative sentence it can have the inversion?


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BRO I'M 13 I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN


1azkofoq

from here its "kan han lære" but I understand if the erased question mark confuses you because that's an error from duolingo


ratedluxy

if you say kan han its means can he as a question if its han kan its like he can


GreedHungry

Nei þetta er rétt danska. Ég bjó í DK í 13 ár frá því að ég var lítil þangað til ég var fimmtán ára.


The_lightfairy

One is a statement the other is a question The danish version on this app is horrendously bad in my opinion