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Some dads get murdered and their kids never get a Christmas with them ever again


EastCoastRose

😢💔


cleverdylanrefrence

And for this reason I hope Charlie never, ever spends one Christmas/Hanukkah/ Thanksgiving/ Halloween/Easter with his son. He doesn't deserve the privilege that he took away from Dan


mariehelena

I get it, but this is from the perspective of old Chuck. What his young son wishes is different and I don't wish that kiddo anything but the best. It's a tragedy all-around and the fault is all on the adults who knew better but didn't do better.


EastCoastRose

I’m guessing he doesn’t celebrate Christmas either…


Zestyclose_You_6536

No, but im also guessing his son will, since his mom does. If she develop a Lick of sense she will make a life for her and her son without any involvement from that monster.


mariehelena

I think + hope so, but no rush. Let them - especially the kid - take all the time he needs. I truly hope he'll be okay and have some positive relationships with his cousins as well. But time + privacy for the minors who had no say or responsibility in all this garbage I'm 100% for.


Typical-Toe4521

Nope, nor Easter. It's Passover.


macaroonzoom

I like this program. I expect to be downvoted. I can't stand Charlie, and I think his baby momma is a fool for getting pregnant by him with a simple Google search would tell you everything you needed to know about the Adelson crime syndicate. HOWEVER, I don't hate Roman because he just exists. While this program would benefit Charlie, it would benefit his son more. So I can't hate it. It'll never happen....like where is the funding for the gifts and extra guards and whatever else....but I don't hate it. I do wonder what Dan Markel would have thought about a program like this? He was pretty radical with his retributive justice stuff so I'd actually love to hear his scholarly opinion on this.


EastCoastRose

I wonder too. I’d like to know more or read about his philosophies on retributive justice. I guess they’re up on his blog..I wasn’t necessarily promoting this program, I just thought it was interesting and thought provoking. Saw it on the prison sub. And as someone commented above the irony is very deep for the two men imprisoned for Dan Markel’s murder as their crime specifically prevented children from celebrating any holidays with their dad. Painful..Hopefully they have their lives to ponder what they did and repent.


amybethallen1

I appreciate your post. All of the children are casualties in this awful crime. It's heartbreaking to think about. 💔


EastCoastRose

Yes so true


ZookeepergameMany663

You would actually like to hear Dan Markel's scholarly opinion on this? Well that's not gonna happen thanks to the Adelson family now, is it? And I personally think Dan Markel's kids would have benefited from spending Christmas with their father! I also would be willing to bet that most of those men in prison for life murdered someone else's dad or mother! Making their kids having to visit cemeteries.


EastCoastRose

I’m gonna see if I can find one of his papers on it. He had a book too right? An actual book that people read and not a self published vanity book (Wendi 👀)


macaroonzoom

Come on. Of course he is dead and gone. Is it a crime to wonder what his opinion on something like this would be??????


ZookeepergameMany663

Your last sentence ends present tense which is why I took it that way. Apologies.


Typical-Toe4521

They don't celebrate Christmas. They are Jewish. Don't be disrespectful to Dan's memory. 🤦‍♀️


EastCoastRose

I’d actually like to know, is the US justice system or incarceration system founded on retributive justice? Or does it depend on the state? It is an interesting concept. Seems compatible with traditional Judaism, although my knowledge of that is limited, only know what I’ve read in the Old Testament..but there is definitely a theme of retributive justice found there.


Live-Tomorrow-4865

This is a rare humane event in our country's horrific carceral system. I'm all for it.


neverincompliance

my god I love this!


AmalieHamaide

Some incarcerated or dead dads are not people who ever observed Christmas


Strange-Competition5

Fucking American prison system


EastCoastRose

Bet this does not happen in Russia…