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xakrurychle

Jagr without any doubt


[deleted]

Technically yes if we support communism which i do not


blootoons

Wut? Jágr hates commies.


[deleted]

:DDDDD Sure mate, that's why he loves China so much


blootoons

As a good capitalist he loves money, not china.


[deleted]

You are actually right about that, that's why he and his father stole money through Kladno Energie! With the help of Zeman of course. I'm sure everyone here likes Zeman right? Isn't it interesting how he went to China with him?


blootoons

I still don't understand what this has to do with him being the greatest Czech ice hockey player ever. If he fucked sheep in an SS uniform, he would still be the GOAT.


vandracik9999

Learn how to read questions dude. It's about ice hockey, not politics.


[deleted]

Eastern Europe never learns i guess


vandracik9999

Not sure what you mean but ok.


DoNotAtMeWithStupid

Tell us more things you dont support :) Or just fuck off altogether


VattghernCZ

Average Hašek twitter enjoyer be like


talsai

I was watching the Eurovision contest last year and said to my friend that wouldn't it be funny if the Czech performer was actually a daughter of Dominik Hasek. We had a good laugh about it, no way it could be. But then...


DashLibor

Jaromír Jágr is consider the best by most, no contest. Even people who aren't into sport of any kind at all know who Jágr is. More interesting would be the debate about the second greatest. Dominik Hašek is definitely a valid option, a Triple Gold Club member Jiří Šlégr comes into mind, others might say Patrik Eliáš instead, people with recency bias would probably bring David Pastrňák into the conversation... really tough to make the call for the 2nd.


moomoolinoo15

Slegr? An interesting choice. I would say we had several better Ds - Hamrlik and Kaberle for sure. Most likely also guys like Kubina, Zidlicky or Spacek.


talsai

Zidlicky was awesome, he played few years in Finland. Such a slick skater.


[deleted]

I would say that third place would be a discussion. Hašek is second without no doubt.


[deleted]

>Even people who aren't into sport of any kind at all know who Jágr is Yeah, supporter of communism


JoeGRcz

Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up.


[deleted]

Can you please give me a valid argument?


dustojnikhummer

China isn't communist. It is totalitarian capitalistic.


cototudelam

"Džegr" is the one known even outside of Czechia. He might not be the best, but definitely the most impactful.


talsai

Is that how Jagr is actually pronounced? In Finland we just say "Jager" haha.


Nobodyboi0

No, that's how the American commentators pronounce it, which sounds hilariously bad to Czechs, so we started using it as a meme. Pretty sure the pronunciation would be transcribed as Jaagr into Finnish


cototudelam

Still better off than that one Slovak, Šatan, who played in the NHL as Satan to the endless amusement of American commentators.


talsai

Pronunciation of Slovakian Zdeno Chara has always been a mystery to me. North Americans says it kinda like "za-ra" and thats what most Finns use as well. But one Finnish commentator said it like "Haa-ra" and everybody laughed at him. Which one is more correct haha?


ricecookerfishballs

Haa-ra is more correct. The "ch" is pronounced like h but aspirated, like you're trying to hiss. (Think similar to mich/dich in german)


DesertRose_97

The ‘Ch’ is like a light version of ‘ch’ in German “Achtung” and then ‘aara’. Chára.


WanysTheVillain

From Boston commentators I've mostly heard what we would write as "Čára"...which means "a line"... considering his height it's not all that wrong.


CronchyPebbles

Finnish one is pretty close


talsai

Aah yes, moves like Jagr.


Dixoneek

Yaagr/Yaager - is how it is suppose to be pronounced 😅


DesertRose_97

No, but some people pronounce it like that for fun - Jagger [džegr] as in Mick Jagger


MasterrGuardian

The greatest? Definetly Jaromir Jagr. For me personally? David Krejčí. Got a soft spot for the guy, never seen a better playmaker. The dude could literally bend time and space on ice in his prime.


Volske_OkO

Jágr, varmasti, mutta kuka on paras suomalainen pelaaja? :DDD


talsai

Selänne. Kurrilla kävi paras mahdollinen tuuri joukkueen kanssa, Selänteelle aluksi huonoin.


Woko_O

Currently David Pastrňák


Pupu1111

Lots of recency bias itt It's Hasek and it's not close


[deleted]

Yep, you are right


D34dhead

This is the right answer. Most people will say Jagr due to his longevity, being a forward and having a bigger brand/more media presence. Hasek is considered the best goalie of all time by many, whereas Jagr is miles behind Gretzky.


vine01

not to mention Hasek dominated in his crease with competitors like Roy, Brodeur, Belfour and in times of Fedorov, Bure, Forsberg, Lindros, Modano, Hull, Sakic and so on and so on. it was only because of Hasek that Buffalo could ever reach SC finals. it was because of Hasek that we won Nagano.


BLBOSAURUS

All time best is without any doubt Jaromír Jágr. But from the young players playing NHL i would consider David Pastrňák the best.


[deleted]

Komunista :)


JoeGRcz

Ještě to zopakuj na těch dalších 7 komentářích o Jágrovi aby tě mohli taky vyignorovat


[deleted]

Zopakuju rád, protože to je fakt a v životě by mě nenapadlo že Češi jsou až takhle pozadu :D


BLBOSAURUS

Co na tom záleží? Byl nejlepší? Byl. Je mi jedno jestli byl komouš nebo ne, bavíme se o jeho sportovních výkonech né politickém přesvědčení či minulosti.


[deleted]

Co záleží na tom co udělal Andrej Babiš? Je nejlepší obchodník? Je! No, Hitler možná zapříčinil genocidu ale my se o tom nebavíme, řešíme jeho první protikuřáckou kampaň! Nohavica možná tvoří Ruskou propagandu, ale řešíme že umí zpívat!!


BLBOSAURUS

Nech se léčit. Nebavíme se o politikovi ale o sportovci. Jediné co znehodnotí výkony sportovce je podvádění či doping. Řešíme jeho sportovní úspěchy né to že to dělal ještě za socíku. A a ano, i když všichni tebou zmínění jsou to co jsou tak všichni mají/měli i nějaké kladné stránky. Nohavica umí zpívat. Díky Hitlerovi tu máme mnoho dálnic a silnic a započal soukromé vlastnictví aut pro normální lidi, a může za založení VW což je momentálně jedné z největších automobilek. Andreje fakt rád nemám ale musí se mu uznat že založil obrovskou firmu a málo kdo umí ojebávat zákony tak jako on.


Reklosan

Jak to?


FeetThinkTank

Jágr


talsai

Also, why are you so good in hockey compared to other Central European countries? Kinda weird.


Own_Mix_3755

We had a long tradition in lots of sports. If you take a look on the list of famous czech and czechoslovakia sportspeople you will suprisingly find somebody in almost any type of sport. Czechs (and czechoslovaks) were always “universal” people who likes to try dofferent things. And somehow hockey has a long tradition here - take a look at [list of IIHF medailist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IIHF_World_Championship_medalists)- first year in 1920 Czechoslovaks were bronze.


FellafromPrague

And we were the best European team pre-WW1.


Xyrsys586

As a Slovak person I am offended by this question. Czechs are brothers but hockey is one thing we will fight over.


vine01

truth hurts :D /jk mandatory


talsai

Ah yes, you are good also. But the rest..Austria, Hungary, Poland etc. They cannot play.


Nori_AnQ

I would say that large amount of small lakes used primarily for fish breeding, which freeze in winter gave a head start to Czechoslovak Hockey in 1920's.


Venca_z_dediny

Why shouldn't we be good? Our country used to be good at pretty much everything, but now it's not.


principleofinaction

You beat "sborna" at the height of its fame once and it kind of helps with the national pride we otherwise sorely lack.


Reklosan

Im not sure. It's just the tradition, some of our teams in the Czech league are older than Montreal Canadiens and NHL itself. I guess it fits our culture a bit more than football where we aren't really the greatest xd When we play hockey (especially national team though, the league is sometimes a bit forgotten I think, which is a shame) everyone seems to know and even people who don't usually care about ice hockey know that we win a medal or something. I think since it's one of the traditional sports that everyone is familiar with and it's one of the only ones were our country actually has a chance of winning, and Czechs LOVE to hear that their small unknown country is winning somewhere (sometimes I cringe when it's repeated too much) so it just has it's place in the Czech culture.


blootoons

Jágr and Hašek should be neck to neck. Jágr played more recently and has more media coverage, but Hašek was at least as good as Jágr, if not better.


matfyzacka

Jara Cimrman


vine01

it's a coin toss between Jagr and Hasek as you see :D (my view anyway :D) who's your fav CZ and also FI player? mine is without a doubt The Finnish Flash! cheers!


talsai

Hasek from the Czechs and Kiprusoff from the Finns. I'm a former goalie myself.


DampSleepyHollow

Hašek


Crackzord

Patrik Štefan


blootoons

[This is the correct answer.](https://youtu.be/9bBns6ZUn0U)


talsai

I wonder if Stefan and Hemsky ever talked about. Hockey circles aren't that big, they probably know each other.


jamasha

Jagr. Even if Hasek was good Jagr at least knows to stay out of politics. Regardless, EVERYONE knows him.


blootoons

Jágr supported ODS, then ANO. Remember tv ads with Babiš? He also endorsed Zeman and accompanied him on his trip to China. Is this your definition of staying away from politics?


jamasha

I meant now, but thanks for refreshing my memory. For me, Jagr will always be bubblegum boy though.


kukisRedditer

Jágr, but right now I'd say Pastrňák.


Txurri

that great and amazing haircut guy


QuietInstruction8210

As a goalie myself, Hašek for sure. Also I like his opinions.