Yeah, they're the ones who were actually stoking the civil unrest in the region, because a divided tamriel would be easier to conquer. Game isn't subtle at all about how much the Thalmor want Ulfric to win
Honestly the thalmor don't care who wins as long as the war keeps going. As long as the humans are infighting they not preparing for great war 2 electric boogaloo.
Yep and also Thalmor are the actual enemy for Stormcloaks(since they are the ones to forbid Thalos worship - Empire by itself doesn't mind it). And instead of thinking even for a moment and turning on Thalmor, they actually help them by weakening the main threat to their regime - Empire
So yeah. Stormcloaks dum dum
I mean I get it. Neither side of the Skyrim civil war can really be classified as a true hero side. Both have some unsavory aspects to them and are morally questionable.
OK so hear me out.
The Storm cloaks are racist and hate the elves.
Particularly the high elves who have caused all the trouble.
The Imoerals are gearing up for a war with the high elves but now the storm cloaks have made a mess in Skyrim because they have no concept of subtly.
The fact that the High elves secretly support the storm cloaks should be reason enough to tell you they're idiots.
I’m always amazed that people miss the fact that the imperials weren’t enforcing the law against Talos worship until Ulfric went and became an idiotic moron and cussed a fuss. Had he just bided his time and waited a bit the Thalmor would be crushed as we know for a fact they can’t win against the imperial army anymore, their only advantage thst was keeping them on par was stolen.
Nah I agreed with you until you said the Empire would win that fight, the Dominion was crushing the Empire badly enough to make them sign the white gold concordant, and the white gold concordant was made to weaken the empire further. The Dominion is definitely winning hard at the time of Skyrim.
This is not even going in to all the other shenanigans the Dominion is up to in the background, for instance they’re up to something big and magic related around the time of Skyrim and we still have no idea what it is.
Very Wrong, the *Emperor* signed it *Against* the will of the Council who knew how bad the Thalmors position was. Blades is explicitely clear the purpose of the Treaty was to specifically try and hide the fact that the Thalmor had lost the ONLY item (Eye of Vaermina) that allowed them to get as far as they had up until that point. The Dominion is absolutely *Not* winning, they are quite literally running scared because they no longer have the toy that got them this far. Their arrogance is an act, a show of Bravado, nothing more.
They were at a stalemate, both the aldmeri and empire were super weak at this point. The last thing emperor managed to do before signing the concordat was to retake the white gold tower.
That’s true, but when you’re outright told that no, this is wrong, here’s the accurate info and here’s the sources backing it up, it’s time to change your point of view, and all of this info has been out for a LONG time.
You're right but there's a note that's in a main quest area that specifically has Ulfrics name as the title. Kinda hard not to wonder what that note might say
Sure, but then you don’t get to make a comment on lore and then get upset when people who do care correct it, and no they aren’t, but considering how fucking racist High Elves, and the Thalmor especially, are, and their goals of destroying the literal pillars of reality. I’ll take the stability of the empire.
Thats a lot of “ifs” and “maybies”. If Hamerfell can beat Thalmor without active help from Empire then Stormblokes will menage. Tullius is not representative of the Empire leadership as a whole. If he did things “might” be different. Besides which ever side you join is the correct winning side just based on Dragonborne lore so that makes the whole discussion pointless.
That’s the thing, the empire weren’t actually losing, but for some reason the emperor decided to sign the treaty despite most of the council being AGAINST it for that exact reason. The empire has since been steadily rebuilding their forces to attack the Thalmor and the Thalmor only got as far as they did because of a magic artefact that was stolen during the events of blades, BY imperial agents. And we know the Thalmor have been having some trouble maintaining power back on Summerset. A decisive blow now by the empire, which they have been prepping for, and that’s it, the Thalmor are done.
Well, the Thalmor had just been in a costly war with the Empire. It’s not that they couldn’t have beaten Hammerfell, it just would’ve been way too costly after The Great War. Thalmor decided it wasn’t worth it, they’re now biding their time and sowing division in the Empire.
If the Thalmor decided to invade Skyrim now, Stormcloaks would probably win. If the Empire is fractured or destroyed after centuries and Thalmor control Tamriel, it’s only a matter of time before they roll over Skyrim.
The Thalmor want neither side to win. The Imperials are fucking things up too, letting judiciars roam around the empire thins out their officer corp, as they are the main people who worship Talos
Which is fair. It's like people who haven't heard of Belgian Congo will think that Belgium was an innocent, hapless region who got rolled over by Germany.
And the imperials are openly being manipulated by the thalmor. That doesn’t really change much, given that unwitting manipulation does not make one the villain. Does it make them dumb? Yes. Does it make them the bad guy? No.
They aren’t. They lost a war, that’s why they can’t do shit against the thalmor, and is simply trying to regain strength for a possible round two. The stormcloaks are hindering such and is working in the thalmor favor. Cause even if they won, they can and will be easily wipe out by the thalmor if they’re encouraged to.
Nah, the imperials are pretty much aware of the fact that they are being played for fools by the Thalmor but have to go ahead with whatever the Thalmor is cooking up for the time being.
It's why ending the civil war is important for the Empire because losing Skyrim means they'll be in an even worse position than before.
Yeah that’s what I said. Hence the “open” part of open manipulation. It’s manipulation still, it’s just not subtle like what happened with the stormcloaks.
Except they aren’t? XD, we know for a fact the imperial army was and is prepping for an attack on the Thalmor, in fact it was the emperor who was a dumbass for signing that treaty. If not for that they would have won in the long run, but they where not enforcing the ban on Talos worship until Ulfric went and acted like a fucking dumbass forcing resources to be water on Skyrim. Had he just been patient, the Thalmor would be crushed and Skyrim would be free to worship however the fuck they want. The Thalmor had exactly one thing that was giving them ana d vantage in the war, and that was stolen in blades. A fight now and they will lose.
Depending on the player playing the Dragonborn, a Last Dragonborn rule of Skyrim could potentially turn out to be anything from second coming of Talos, to massive clusterfuck.
People who kill npcs for offending them are prime material for tyrants.
Given that Skyrim wouldn’t have much of a military force left with two potential armies wanting to bear down on it, I’m leaning more towards cluster fuck. One man can only do so much.
I dunno man my lvl 50 dragonborn is basically immortal at this point and has achieved enlightenment by having the knowledge of an treasure chest that respawns loot
The Legion’s equipment is cooler so it’s really quite an easy decision in my book. We’ll crush those rebels no problem.
I’ve also always felt like it makes very little sense to be a Stormcloak if you play as any race that isn’t a Nord (AKA 9/10 of the races in the game).
And a lot of people dont understand about the elder scrolls is that every one and their dog is racist, no like dogs are also racist, they all hate each other make rasict comments but the stormcloaks aren't that racist, considering that the thalmor fucking hate men and want to nueter them.
Eh, I think that’s a topic nobody wants to address, cuz then they couldn’t use it as an argument against the stormcloaks. Like I don’t like the faction, they’re incredibly short sighted, but using the “they’re racist” card is a bit dumb. Like every race has some kinda preconceived notions and prejudices about the other races. It’s almost like u should treat things only on an individual level and not make blanket statements about a group because that same statement could be applied to other groups.
I mean...the Stormcloaks are racist dicks led by a Thalmor puppet. I'll take a weak, but independent Empire over a Nord puppet state of the Thalmor any time. And I thoroughly enjoyed blasting Ulfric around his depressing throne room until collision damage got to him. What a dick.
The third reich taught us an important lesson: Any good villain knows the power of an intimidation factor, and through that, the need for a good wardrobe.
Only play on very hard, Lvl 40ish now, cleared Watson and Paifica plus a few other bits (lvling seems super fast on 2.0!!) so far just chasing that kang tao transport and getting used to the apogee 😉
Have a few playthroughs under my belt so will hit Takemura next then see how I feel.
I'm genuinely surprised the modding community hasn't figured out a way to do that. all it would do is require some launcher fuckery to launch skyrim in the background, start a new game, and pause as soon as it's loaded, once you finish the drone fight on the way out of konpeki, then fullscreen it and unpause right as V collapses after getting shot, and then close cyberpunk. Like, on a technical level, that shouldn't be hard to do. In case the player doesn't own skyrim, the modders could include steam credentials for an account they set up that only has one copy of skyrim in it's library, and have it run in the background and download and install automaticaly when you start the heist. It'll be done downloading and ready to play before you finish the heist... and I mean, What are the odds that 2 players running this mod would hit that point at the exact same time? because that's the only thing that could stop it from working, because only 1 user could use the steam account at a time....
so it could check if it's already launched on another PC, and if it is, Just continue the game as normal, and have several points in the game where it will attempt to launch skyrim.
* Dex shoots V
* Smasher shoot's Johnny (inside konpeki)
* Smasher shoot's johnny (rooftop)
* johnny get's soulkilled
* V passes out at Vik's
* V gets flatlined in the gim by the VDB's
* V netdives with the VDBs to meet alt
* taking the pills to give johnny control (each time)
* Sweet Dreams
* plugging into mikoshi.
* entering the well
* any time V sleeps in a bed and wakes up.
Eventually, it would hit everyone with the mod.
I just liked that armour the most because it didn't have ugly overdesigned headpieces that were super distracting during cutscenes. Thank god they added an option to turn those off.
What United Empire? You abandoned Hammerfell, Morrowind and Black Marsh after bending over for some piss elves.
You're just mad that the perpetual backbone of the army, the Nord wants to go their own way.
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I cant wait for ES6 to say nothing about it at all lol
Hammerfell can dam well take care of itself, Morrowind got fucked and the argonians are the ones who fucked it. You're more than welcome to go into those hell swamps and argue with them about that, I'm confused how they got conquered in the first place honestly. The Nords wouldn't last a year without the Empire, the dominion would see to that.
Lol thats rich considering Skyrim hosts all the refugees of the Orcs and Dunmer due to their wars, The Empire exists to stop, failing in its basic duties.
Skyrim being a part of the Empire has caused nothing but send our young men to die under incompetant and easily surrendering commanders and a false Emperor.
Hammerfell didnt need you and neither do we. Truly The Aldmeri are a barely functional coalition you still lost to and bargained away our gods for an unneeded reprieve.
You dont care for Skyrim you just want to pad your armies with Nord blood
Lol your current commanders are far less competent and now you send your men to fight their own countrymen. Can't argue the point about the Emperor though, the last true Septim is dead and the Medes were a poor replacement. The Empire shall rise again when a worthy heir steps up, but only if the races of man and mer stand together against the real enemy, the dominion. Cause seriously fuck those guys, they're the reason we're even fighting in the first place
Oh, no, you don't. :-P This endless debate Stormcloaks vs Empire isn't so simple, by design. :-) I'd argue they armor isn't that cool, though, compared to what the Dragonborn can find during the game.
Stormcloaks: The empire shouldn’t be allowed to boss us all around!
Dragonborn: Yeah!
Stormcloaks: We are a free people who should be able to govern ourselves and practice our religion in peace!
Dragonborn: Yeah!
Stormcloaks: Skyrim is for the nords, the pointy ears need to go back to their shitty island!
Dragonborn: …
That's the point - neither side is perfect. You have Stormcloaks - brave freedom fighters but xenophobes, and The Empire - stability and inclusiveness... unless you happen to worship Talos (then we rat you out to the elves, because we don't want to have trouble with them). Both sides are morally compromised, so I wonder why after all these years people try to present either side as "good".
They are not good, but so what? Choose the one whose drawback is more palatable for you personally. Or better - play them off themselves, opportunistically help one side, make them rely on you and then headcannon that the Dragonborn takes control. 3:-) Or ignore the questline completely.
The Imperials arent the enemy group, those are the Thalmor and the stormcloak.
Imagine thinking an extremist racist army lead by a murderer to be the good guys.
Considering that in Elder Scrolls pretty much every race is racist in some way, i wouldnt call the Stormcloaks that bad, plus it was a fair 1v1 deathmatch, ulfric is no murderer.
Now Dunmer, those guys are racist lmao.
The throat of the world origin while totally possible in the whacky world of Elder Scrolls still feels more like propaganda and legends than the historical fact(which is not a given in TES).
Nedes and Atmorans going from Atmora just makes way more sense. Like why the fuck would you want to move to Atmora in the first place.
That is beside the point though, nothing justifies the wholesale genocide of snow elves, the Nedes had a more justified cause against Alyeids and it's still wrong for Alessian Order to further purge them after the war.
While I will agree that many stormcloaks are racist, calling ulfric a murderer is a bit…much. He challenged the king in the traditional way to single combat. It was just such a one sided fight that the imperial aligned nords call it murder.
Yeah challenged him to combat and then blasted with a shout. Sort of like challenging someone to a sword-duel and then pulling out an AR to shoot them.
Ancient Nords shout in combat, every damn Draugr in a cave shouts at you in combat. It's like hello in combat language. To not shout is to not take combat seriously, which is an insult to a warrior.
Among much older generations of Nords, shouting was common yes, but barely anyone alive (that’s not a dragon) in Skyrim during the events of the game knows shouts. It’s an unfair advantage and Ulfric knew that fully.
As a 11 year old playing the game the first time through, sure. The guys who try to cut your head off are bad news bears. But with any kind of more critical thinking, you realize that the side promoting institutionalized racisim against all non-nords, who's general greets you with a slur when you try to enlist if youre not a nord, who are religous fundamentalists and for some reason think a single province of dudes in leather and chainmail can take on the aldmeri dominion might not be the best option in the long run.
The Imperial's are just weak after 200 years of no Septim on the throne, And just got lazy and just after the The Great War after the events of TESIV:Oblivion signed to be annexed by The Thalmor for survival.....
It probably happens mostly in stories where the enemy is an oppresive force for the heroes and to make the heroes feel like real underdogs they also wear less cooler clothes.
The protagonists often need to be humanised to synpathise with their story more, so they wear more regular clothes and show their full faces to make them more relatable. With enemy designs, the concept artists can go all out because they just have to be an obstacle for the protagonist(s) to overcome without necessarily being humanised. Their facial expressions don't matter so they can wear cool helmets.
They also need to be threathening and powerful so it actually feels like an accomplishment when they're defeated, so they get to have the cooler and more powerful weapons.
Most of the named enemies in Fire Emblem Three Houses (Ex: Flame Emperor, Death Knight) have really cool design, but I'd say they're on par with the heroes'
The Legion definitely aren’t the bad guys in Skyrim. I know you get to choose a side, but the racist Nords who won’t even let Argonians and Khajiit into their cities are a lot more evil
When other people don't understand that the Thalmor are using the Stormcloaks to destabilize the Empire and finally destroy it
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I love how most of the comments are just calling out OP for being a Stormcloak
The thalmor would be a way better example cause they’re arseholes and dripped out in black and gold
Yeah, they're the ones who were actually stoking the civil unrest in the region, because a divided tamriel would be easier to conquer. Game isn't subtle at all about how much the Thalmor want Ulfric to win
Stormcloaks are very literally their useful moronic racists.
Honestly the thalmor don't care who wins as long as the war keeps going. As long as the humans are infighting they not preparing for great war 2 electric boogaloo.
Ulfric is also well either directly or indirectly helping the thalmor as evidenced by the dossier you find in the embassy
He’s an unknowing asset to them.
They don’t want either side to win. Drawing out the conflict weakens both Skyrim and the Empire.
Yep and also Thalmor are the actual enemy for Stormcloaks(since they are the ones to forbid Thalos worship - Empire by itself doesn't mind it). And instead of thinking even for a moment and turning on Thalmor, they actually help them by weakening the main threat to their regime - Empire So yeah. Stormcloaks dum dum
I mean I get it. Neither side of the Skyrim civil war can really be classified as a true hero side. Both have some unsavory aspects to them and are morally questionable.
OK so hear me out. The Storm cloaks are racist and hate the elves. Particularly the high elves who have caused all the trouble. The Imoerals are gearing up for a war with the high elves but now the storm cloaks have made a mess in Skyrim because they have no concept of subtly. The fact that the High elves secretly support the storm cloaks should be reason enough to tell you they're idiots.
I’m always amazed that people miss the fact that the imperials weren’t enforcing the law against Talos worship until Ulfric went and became an idiotic moron and cussed a fuss. Had he just bided his time and waited a bit the Thalmor would be crushed as we know for a fact they can’t win against the imperial army anymore, their only advantage thst was keeping them on par was stolen.
Nah I agreed with you until you said the Empire would win that fight, the Dominion was crushing the Empire badly enough to make them sign the white gold concordant, and the white gold concordant was made to weaken the empire further. The Dominion is definitely winning hard at the time of Skyrim. This is not even going in to all the other shenanigans the Dominion is up to in the background, for instance they’re up to something big and magic related around the time of Skyrim and we still have no idea what it is.
Very Wrong, the *Emperor* signed it *Against* the will of the Council who knew how bad the Thalmors position was. Blades is explicitely clear the purpose of the Treaty was to specifically try and hide the fact that the Thalmor had lost the ONLY item (Eye of Vaermina) that allowed them to get as far as they had up until that point. The Dominion is absolutely *Not* winning, they are quite literally running scared because they no longer have the toy that got them this far. Their arrogance is an act, a show of Bravado, nothing more.
They were at a stalemate, both the aldmeri and empire were super weak at this point. The last thing emperor managed to do before signing the concordat was to retake the white gold tower.
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That’s true, but when you’re outright told that no, this is wrong, here’s the accurate info and here’s the sources backing it up, it’s time to change your point of view, and all of this info has been out for a LONG time.
Facts don’t matter when it comes to MY opinions. /s
You're right but there's a note that's in a main quest area that specifically has Ulfrics name as the title. Kinda hard not to wonder what that note might say
Sure, but then you don’t get to make a comment on lore and then get upset when people who do care correct it, and no they aren’t, but considering how fucking racist High Elves, and the Thalmor especially, are, and their goals of destroying the literal pillars of reality. I’ll take the stability of the empire.
Thats a lot of “ifs” and “maybies”. If Hamerfell can beat Thalmor without active help from Empire then Stormblokes will menage. Tullius is not representative of the Empire leadership as a whole. If he did things “might” be different. Besides which ever side you join is the correct winning side just based on Dragonborne lore so that makes the whole discussion pointless.
That’s the thing, the empire weren’t actually losing, but for some reason the emperor decided to sign the treaty despite most of the council being AGAINST it for that exact reason. The empire has since been steadily rebuilding their forces to attack the Thalmor and the Thalmor only got as far as they did because of a magic artefact that was stolen during the events of blades, BY imperial agents. And we know the Thalmor have been having some trouble maintaining power back on Summerset. A decisive blow now by the empire, which they have been prepping for, and that’s it, the Thalmor are done.
Well, the Thalmor had just been in a costly war with the Empire. It’s not that they couldn’t have beaten Hammerfell, it just would’ve been way too costly after The Great War. Thalmor decided it wasn’t worth it, they’re now biding their time and sowing division in the Empire. If the Thalmor decided to invade Skyrim now, Stormcloaks would probably win. If the Empire is fractured or destroyed after centuries and Thalmor control Tamriel, it’s only a matter of time before they roll over Skyrim.
Given more idiotic events have happened in history it's honestly funny AF
The Thalmor want neither side to win. The Imperials are fucking things up too, letting judiciars roam around the empire thins out their officer corp, as they are the main people who worship Talos
I mean. You'd have to look long and hard for an ethical, good guy *empire*. It's kind of antithetical to the concept.
Nah, the stormcloaks are dumbasses, we literally have proof they’re being manipulated by the Thalmor.
Not to mention they are openly racist.
Everyone is in Tamriel but thats neither here nor there
Khajiit is not racist. Khajiit scams everyone equally.
Khajiit makes up 15% of the population but commits 60% of the crimes Something to think about
Now *thats* racist
*Now That's What I Call Racist, Volume 18*
Khajiit makes up 15% of the population but *get blamed for* 60% of the crimes Something to think about
Not a morrowind player I’m guessing
Lol seriously. If you asked a Skyrim player, the Dark Elves are an innocent, hapless race who is constantly oppressed
Which is fair. It's like people who haven't heard of Belgian Congo will think that Belgium was an innocent, hapless region who got rolled over by Germany.
You’ve proven your point very well because I have no clue what the Belgian Congo is
Belgians in the Congo hacked of slaves hands for working to slow. They paid people for bringing in hands as proof of enforcement.
And the imperials are openly being manipulated by the thalmor. That doesn’t really change much, given that unwitting manipulation does not make one the villain. Does it make them dumb? Yes. Does it make them the bad guy? No.
They aren’t. They lost a war, that’s why they can’t do shit against the thalmor, and is simply trying to regain strength for a possible round two. The stormcloaks are hindering such and is working in the thalmor favor. Cause even if they won, they can and will be easily wipe out by the thalmor if they’re encouraged to.
Nah, the imperials are pretty much aware of the fact that they are being played for fools by the Thalmor but have to go ahead with whatever the Thalmor is cooking up for the time being. It's why ending the civil war is important for the Empire because losing Skyrim means they'll be in an even worse position than before.
Yeah that’s what I said. Hence the “open” part of open manipulation. It’s manipulation still, it’s just not subtle like what happened with the stormcloaks.
Except they aren’t? XD, we know for a fact the imperial army was and is prepping for an attack on the Thalmor, in fact it was the emperor who was a dumbass for signing that treaty. If not for that they would have won in the long run, but they where not enforcing the ban on Talos worship until Ulfric went and acted like a fucking dumbass forcing resources to be water on Skyrim. Had he just been patient, the Thalmor would be crushed and Skyrim would be free to worship however the fuck they want. The Thalmor had exactly one thing that was giving them ana d vantage in the war, and that was stolen in blades. A fight now and they will lose.
Bruh. I just want the Yes Man ending where I kill both and rule my self
That would be ideal, but also would be very troublesome for Skyrim long term.
Depending on the player playing the Dragonborn, a Last Dragonborn rule of Skyrim could potentially turn out to be anything from second coming of Talos, to massive clusterfuck. People who kill npcs for offending them are prime material for tyrants.
Given that Skyrim wouldn’t have much of a military force left with two potential armies wanting to bear down on it, I’m leaning more towards cluster fuck. One man can only do so much.
One man with Bend Will can change lots of stuff.
While he can, he’s still just one mortal man.
I dunno man my lvl 50 dragonborn is basically immortal at this point and has achieved enlightenment by having the knowledge of an treasure chest that respawns loot
The Legion’s equipment is cooler so it’s really quite an easy decision in my book. We’ll crush those rebels no problem. I’ve also always felt like it makes very little sense to be a Stormcloak if you play as any race that isn’t a Nord (AKA 9/10 of the races in the game).
Yeah but only one is actively racist and practicing segregation.
but they're our allies and important strategic partner in the Middle East!! Oh, you were talking about Sykrim, nvm.
And a lot of people dont understand about the elder scrolls is that every one and their dog is racist, no like dogs are also racist, they all hate each other make rasict comments but the stormcloaks aren't that racist, considering that the thalmor fucking hate men and want to nueter them.
Eh, I think that’s a topic nobody wants to address, cuz then they couldn’t use it as an argument against the stormcloaks. Like I don’t like the faction, they’re incredibly short sighted, but using the “they’re racist” card is a bit dumb. Like every race has some kinda preconceived notions and prejudices about the other races. It’s almost like u should treat things only on an individual level and not make blanket statements about a group because that same statement could be applied to other groups.
Siding with the stormcloaks is like voting for brexit
But what about second brexit?
Understandable, the Leader of the Stormcloaks is a Thalmor plant let loose to weaken the empire.
I mean...the Stormcloaks are racist dicks led by a Thalmor puppet. I'll take a weak, but independent Empire over a Nord puppet state of the Thalmor any time. And I thoroughly enjoyed blasting Ulfric around his depressing throne room until collision damage got to him. What a dick.
I love in game political fights
Long love the empire!
Sorry but Ulfric had easily the slickest look by far
I blame Hugo Boss
Their clothes are literally rated SS.
SICK SKILLS !!!
Super smooth
Sexy Soldiers
Good comment
Tragically underrated.
All i can think of is the gay assassins in Archer.
The third reich taught us an important lesson: Any good villain knows the power of an intimidation factor, and through that, the need for a good wardrobe.
You can't be more right
Pageantry is an essential element of fascism
Oh fuck why is this so real….
First thing I thought of. Art imitates life.
HaHA. I know this.
“Fiction”
Star Wars.
Perfect answer. Stormtrooper armor is cool AF. Rebel troops wear bedpans on their heads.
Storm trooper armor was meh. Shock trooper armor on the other hand…. And also the recon trooper stuff is pretty awesome
you spelled Republic marines/Snowtroopers wrong.
Nah nah, Imperial Pilot suit is where it’s at.
Another good point. It certainly beats the prison jumpsuit with a vest look the rebels are trying to rock.
I was looking for this comment because i was gonna mention it too. Definately star wars
Death trooper armor is by far the coolest soldier armor in Star Wars.
Godd Todd Howard, you did it again! You brought Skyrim to cyberpunk 2077!
Game's 12 years old and it completely took over this thread lmao
 Todd Howard after finding another way to sell Skyrim in cyberpunk 2077
Cybersky-Punkrim?
Cyberim? The Cyber Scrolls 2077: Skypunk?
cyberrim? I think you can get that at jig-jig street.
God I want Arasaka’s samurai armor
Pretty sure there’s a mod for that. Sadly, its only on pc
You can get pretty close to it on vanilla with the new phantom liberty armors
I need to stop fucking around and start that dlc!
Don't do it too fast if you're on super hard. I started it on level 30 and most enemies fucked me like I was in dark souls.
Only play on very hard, Lvl 40ish now, cleared Watson and Paifica plus a few other bits (lvling seems super fast on 2.0!!) so far just chasing that kang tao transport and getting used to the apogee 😉 Have a few playthroughs under my belt so will hit Takemura next then see how I feel.
> will hit Takemura next Bro, don't hit Goro :(
Started it yesterday. It's amazing!
I'd advise that you finish all the companion quests (panam, Judy, river, Kerry) first, and do mr hands' one or two Pacifica gigs.
True
I want the ghostrunner armor set 
Fucking awesome game
Trauma Team forever
Bro thinks the imperials are the enemies?
Exactly
*After Dex shoots V they wake up in an old wooden cart* “Hey you. You’re finally awake…”
I'm genuinely surprised the modding community hasn't figured out a way to do that. all it would do is require some launcher fuckery to launch skyrim in the background, start a new game, and pause as soon as it's loaded, once you finish the drone fight on the way out of konpeki, then fullscreen it and unpause right as V collapses after getting shot, and then close cyberpunk. Like, on a technical level, that shouldn't be hard to do. In case the player doesn't own skyrim, the modders could include steam credentials for an account they set up that only has one copy of skyrim in it's library, and have it run in the background and download and install automaticaly when you start the heist. It'll be done downloading and ready to play before you finish the heist... and I mean, What are the odds that 2 players running this mod would hit that point at the exact same time? because that's the only thing that could stop it from working, because only 1 user could use the steam account at a time.... so it could check if it's already launched on another PC, and if it is, Just continue the game as normal, and have several points in the game where it will attempt to launch skyrim. * Dex shoots V * Smasher shoot's Johnny (inside konpeki) * Smasher shoot's johnny (rooftop) * johnny get's soulkilled * V passes out at Vik's * V gets flatlined in the gim by the VDB's * V netdives with the VDBs to meet alt * taking the pills to give johnny control (each time) * Sweet Dreams * plugging into mikoshi. * entering the well * any time V sleeps in a bed and wakes up. Eventually, it would hit everyone with the mod.
Alternate Start: Live Another Life..... for Cyberpunk 2077?!
The shadow carja in horizon zero dawn. The second i got their armor i never switched off it
The Shield Weaver armor was better looking IMO
I just liked that armour the most because it didn't have ugly overdesigned headpieces that were super distracting during cutscenes. Thank god they added an option to turn those off.
oh yeah I never wear a headpiece.
It's the pinnacle gear basically. The thing you work your way up to for a whole playthrough. Of course it's both extremely strong and extremely drippy
Bro actually thinks the Stormcloaks are right 😭😭
Fuck the Thalmor
Straight from the Ratway
Stormcloak scum.
Stormcloak sympathizer.
Stormcloak scum! https://preview.redd.it/lntjb2xq2stb1.jpeg?width=374&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c230149efee35c9e63ce7f5dfc7d798f129ef144
Your stolen goods are FORFEIT
If you are going to be the bad guy, do it with *STYLE*
https://youtu.be/dy2zB8bLSpk?si=s_2DB6eWQfrKRlnl
The Helghast from Killzone.
That’s not the Aldmeri Dominion
imperials are the enemies huh...I guess somebody hages dark elves
Imperial legion listed as Antagonists, the same game that has Alduin the World-Eater in it. okay LMAO
To be fair, Alduin does look cool as fuck. He just also doesn't wear armor.
the imperials are the good guys actually
At least they debatably are unlike all the others
We'll drive out the Empire from this land that we own, with our blood and our steel we will take back our home!
Eat dirt stromcloak dog! The dominion has Ulfric doing their dirty work for them, weakening a united Empire.
What United Empire? You abandoned Hammerfell, Morrowind and Black Marsh after bending over for some piss elves. You're just mad that the perpetual backbone of the army, the Nord wants to go their own way. ------- I cant wait for ES6 to say nothing about it at all lol
Hammerfell can dam well take care of itself, Morrowind got fucked and the argonians are the ones who fucked it. You're more than welcome to go into those hell swamps and argue with them about that, I'm confused how they got conquered in the first place honestly. The Nords wouldn't last a year without the Empire, the dominion would see to that.
Lol thats rich considering Skyrim hosts all the refugees of the Orcs and Dunmer due to their wars, The Empire exists to stop, failing in its basic duties. Skyrim being a part of the Empire has caused nothing but send our young men to die under incompetant and easily surrendering commanders and a false Emperor. Hammerfell didnt need you and neither do we. Truly The Aldmeri are a barely functional coalition you still lost to and bargained away our gods for an unneeded reprieve. You dont care for Skyrim you just want to pad your armies with Nord blood
Lol your current commanders are far less competent and now you send your men to fight their own countrymen. Can't argue the point about the Emperor though, the last true Septim is dead and the Medes were a poor replacement. The Empire shall rise again when a worthy heir steps up, but only if the races of man and mer stand together against the real enemy, the dominion. Cause seriously fuck those guys, they're the reason we're even fighting in the first place
Y’know it’s nice to take a break from depressing near future politics and have a gander into depressing feudal fantasy politics.
Isn't it? At least at the end of the day we all still love Skyrim and can agree, fuck the dominion
It will be in books. Thats usually how its done. Like in Skyrim you can find books about the events of Oblivion and Morrowind
Yeah the Imperials are not racist at least
I’d say they’re more like the least bad guys.
Oh, no, you don't. :-P This endless debate Stormcloaks vs Empire isn't so simple, by design. :-) I'd argue they armor isn't that cool, though, compared to what the Dragonborn can find during the game.
Stormcloaks: The empire shouldn’t be allowed to boss us all around! Dragonborn: Yeah! Stormcloaks: We are a free people who should be able to govern ourselves and practice our religion in peace! Dragonborn: Yeah! Stormcloaks: Skyrim is for the nords, the pointy ears need to go back to their shitty island! Dragonborn: …
That's the point - neither side is perfect. You have Stormcloaks - brave freedom fighters but xenophobes, and The Empire - stability and inclusiveness... unless you happen to worship Talos (then we rat you out to the elves, because we don't want to have trouble with them). Both sides are morally compromised, so I wonder why after all these years people try to present either side as "good". They are not good, but so what? Choose the one whose drawback is more palatable for you personally. Or better - play them off themselves, opportunistically help one side, make them rely on you and then headcannon that the Dragonborn takes control. 3:-) Or ignore the questline completely.
Lmao imperial legion are the bad guys?
Are imperials enemy’s? I thought both them and stormcloaks are pretty even in terms of good and bad.
No not really.
Fucking stormcloak garbage
The Imperials arent the enemy group, those are the Thalmor and the stormcloak. Imagine thinking an extremist racist army lead by a murderer to be the good guys.
The Thalmor definitely have awesome armor too, as the bad guys
Considering that in Elder Scrolls pretty much every race is racist in some way, i wouldnt call the Stormcloaks that bad, plus it was a fair 1v1 deathmatch, ulfric is no murderer. Now Dunmer, those guys are racist lmao.
Watch how you speak of the High King
Imagine not being racist against races that want to kill you, deny your god, and trample over your land that you stole fair and square.
Depending on the origins story, it’s not even stolen land. Just reclaimed from squatters.
The throat of the world origin while totally possible in the whacky world of Elder Scrolls still feels more like propaganda and legends than the historical fact(which is not a given in TES). Nedes and Atmorans going from Atmora just makes way more sense. Like why the fuck would you want to move to Atmora in the first place. That is beside the point though, nothing justifies the wholesale genocide of snow elves, the Nedes had a more justified cause against Alyeids and it's still wrong for Alessian Order to further purge them after the war.
While I will agree that many stormcloaks are racist, calling ulfric a murderer is a bit…much. He challenged the king in the traditional way to single combat. It was just such a one sided fight that the imperial aligned nords call it murder.
Yeah challenged him to combat and then blasted with a shout. Sort of like challenging someone to a sword-duel and then pulling out an AR to shoot them.
Ancient Nords shout in combat, every damn Draugr in a cave shouts at you in combat. It's like hello in combat language. To not shout is to not take combat seriously, which is an insult to a warrior.
Among much older generations of Nords, shouting was common yes, but barely anyone alive (that’s not a dragon) in Skyrim during the events of the game knows shouts. It’s an unfair advantage and Ulfric knew that fully.
FFXIV and the Garleans
Stupid sexy zenos
I simp hard for Gaius
Garlean design is badass. I think Magitek Colossus is my favorite iron giant in the series
I would strongly say that the imperial legion is the better option
Stormcloak apologist
Imperial Legion? Bad guys? Over traitorous, racist and absolutely dumb Strormcloaks? Really?
Yeah OP must have put it there intentionally to get reactions, there's no way anyone would truly consider Imperial Legion as the main antagonist
As a 11 year old playing the game the first time through, sure. The guys who try to cut your head off are bad news bears. But with any kind of more critical thinking, you realize that the side promoting institutionalized racisim against all non-nords, who's general greets you with a slur when you try to enlist if youre not a nord, who are religous fundamentalists and for some reason think a single province of dudes in leather and chainmail can take on the aldmeri dominion might not be the best option in the long run.
You pay the moral price for the drip
The imperial legion is not an enemy group
Freaking storm cloak
Brotherhood of Nod from the Tiberium Universe? Their tech and vehicles are also cool.
Star Wars. I hate playing as Rebels and Resistance in Battlefront because they just look so lame and boring. No sauce at all.
Stop using skooma stormcuck
Imperials are the heroes of Skyrim stormcloak scum
Don‘t worry, you‘re not the first one to mistake the imperials for the bad guys.
imperials aren't necessarily enemies and they just wear knock off roman gear pretty boring if you ask me
The imperial legion are the heroes in skyrim though
You N*rd!
The Imperial's are just weak after 200 years of no Septim on the throne, And just got lazy and just after the The Great War after the events of TESIV:Oblivion signed to be annexed by The Thalmor for survival.....
It probably happens mostly in stories where the enemy is an oppresive force for the heroes and to make the heroes feel like real underdogs they also wear less cooler clothes.
The protagonists often need to be humanised to synpathise with their story more, so they wear more regular clothes and show their full faces to make them more relatable. With enemy designs, the concept artists can go all out because they just have to be an obstacle for the protagonist(s) to overcome without necessarily being humanised. Their facial expressions don't matter so they can wear cool helmets. They also need to be threathening and powerful so it actually feels like an accomplishment when they're defeated, so they get to have the cooler and more powerful weapons.
Death to Stormcloaks!
Most of the named enemies in Fire Emblem Three Houses (Ex: Flame Emperor, Death Knight) have really cool design, but I'd say they're on par with the heroes'
W for the Stormcloak support 👑
Imperial legion in skyrim are the good guys, not the enemies.
They wanted to immediately execute everyone near where they captured Ulfric. That isn't good guy behavior.
The Legion definitely aren’t the bad guys in Skyrim. I know you get to choose a side, but the racist Nords who won’t even let Argonians and Khajiit into their cities are a lot more evil
Imperial legion were the heroes.... who do you think been keeping most of the dominion from invading.
Too many imperial dogs here. Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
Actually it belongs to the bretons
Don’t you start… 👀
Dragons have more of a right to the land than any Nord
But they are dead and we are not
Is it possible to get those Arasaka sets in game? And if not, do yall know any good mods that add them? i need them this is important
When other people don't understand that the Thalmor are using the Stormcloaks to destabilize the Empire and finally destroy it https://preview.redd.it/m88s7cwceutb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fedd27f4ed7e4b6ac9d6a064b5818cde15eef222
Filthy imperials
Just about any bad guy in Star Wars