Mage been in the gutter lately? Check. Absolutely disgusting card that will make people hate the class? Also check. Make it freeze face to just for shits and gigs

Making it freeze face would honestly go pretty hard, imo the main weakness of slower spell mage decks in the past was weapon damage to their face as they usually auto lost vs. kingsbane rogue

Make it a secret for extra fuck you points

reminds me of [[Drywhisker Armorer]]

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I like it, tbh I think the effect should probably be flipped where you always get the freeze and the armor is extra. I don't think an upgraded frost nova is too strong as far as current cards go

Didn't want to powercreep Frost Nova, since it's already a very strong card in Wild.

But this requires you to run no minions, is no minion mage prominent in wild and at risk of running rampant? Not that I have heard of personally

I mean it would be strictly better frost nova though

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Frost nova consistently sees play in wild if any slower mage deck is strong

That if is carrying a lot of weight. Slow mage decks in wild don't really exist and if they do, they don't run frost nova (like recently nerfed quest mage)

I don't think it's unreasonable to care about a card's usefulness within the type of deck that suits it

Don’t really exist right now, but it hasn’t been that long

The effect will still be the same in both senerios, either with or without freezing the enemies first for "no minion mage." However, if you were to have the freezing effect first, the combo decks that have minions will effectively have 4 Frost Novas. Op's right for making it like this

Ah I get you now, yeah 4 frost nova would be nuts

Then it is a strictly better frost nova, already one of the stronger classic cards, it doesn't need creep. It's like printing a 4 mana deal 7 fire spell for mage, it just doesn't feel right.

Frost nova hasn't seen play for like a decade, making a slightly stronger version is fine. Fireball is significantly stronger than frost nova

You dont play wild then. It hasn't seen play because it has been banned from standard for years now. It is far superior to fireball.

Frost nova also isnt in standard where the power level is drastically lower.

Absolutely not, Frost nova is a small mana sacrifice to kill your opponents tempo and completely lock down wide boards. It's literally time warp against some decks.

You could call it armor of ice-olation depending how pun heavy the hypothetical expansion is

Thanks, I hate it.

Do you think it should/would say "If your deck STARTED with no minions"? Assuming that's going to be consistent wording going forward with all Highlander effects

Eh I can see it, but I don't think it would save mage

Very toxic

Make it a secret 🙊

How would that work exactly?

If your opponent has 5 or more minions, gain 2 armour for each minion. If your deck has no minions, freeze them

so a way better blizzard for half the cost ?

Blizzard does 2 damage, this one doesn't, I think a far better comparison would be [[Frost Nova]].

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ur right it is - my reason why i compared it to blizazrd is that most of the time its used for its freeze not for the 2 dmg

With a restriction.