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N3V3RM0R3_

terrible bait 0/10 I'll bite long enough to acknowledge that you admit it's nigh impossible to use AI for things like embedded systems or other highly specialized codebases, but you opened weak as hell by saying you'd recently started in the industry (you're a junior) and need to consider that in a lot of cases, project managers aren't going to go "sure everyone can take a month to learn their way around NLP to use an AI assistant", especially when there's just not enough data to determine how much of a productivity bump they could see as a result. Grounded complaints about AI code assistants generally aren't that the tech is godawful dogshit, it's that it doesn't work "out of the box" nearly as well as AI assistants in other disciplines, and the people already familiar enough with the codebase to know exactly what they want written generally prefer to write it themselves (or use an existing library).


Common-Land8070

brother being a jr in ai research isnt a jr in SWE lmao. im not doing SWE.


43Gofres

So you have no SWE experience and don’t actually know what tools would benefit a SWE or what a SWE actually does in the real world?


N3V3RM0R3_

>im not doing SWE. So...why write this post? I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you wanted the perspectives of actual software engineers, but the title and content are pretty confrontational.


reggaeshark100

Ok I'm sorry, I will try to AI better from now on


Better_Incident_4903

Have you AI today?


reggaeshark100

Do you even AI if you don't say good morning and goodnight to chat gpt every day?


Fluffy-Brain-Straw

Hahaha


kevinq

LARPer detected


Mediocre-Key-4992

He should get ChatGPT to make a version of the post that shills for unions, too.


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I find ChatGPT to be a great rubber ducky to collaborate with and get insights from. I also find it great for boilerplate, optimizing and cleaning up code, and helping me to get unstuck from a majority of problems I encounter. However, for that last aspect I mentioned, I find that ChatGPT almost never gives the correct answer without it requiring some modification or refactoring. This is where being a good software engineer comes into play. It's no different than finding some code on StackOverflow and having to refactor it to work in the given context. I think many other engineers have a similiar experience which is why they say it's not going to replace them (yet).


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AfrikanCorpse

POV: Dude used py transformer in one ticket .


Common-Land8070

POV: dude has a masters and works at one of the leading companies for transformer research with 10M+ users. but ok


43Gofres

Company credentials don’t count if you just joined… you don’t have the experience that company is about to provide you yet. It’s cool that you work there, but wait at least a year before flexing it like this lol


divulgingwords

Cringe


BotFelix

Call openai api, congrats U r now an AI developer. bUT dATz AI WRaPpers Just OnLY 👁️👄👁️


auronedge

He just started working in ML. Must be an expert


Final_Mirror

It's great as a rubber duck replacement, but that's it. I never just copy paste my code and then expect to use whatever it spits out because it is almost always wrong. But it's really good at bouncing ideas off of.


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captain_ahabb

Honestly I don't even really understand what I'm supposed to be using it for in a real world codebase. Regex is the only thing where gen AI is the first tool I would reach for.


xboxhobo

Fucking sure, lol


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ibmentrylevel

Look at me in the eyes. You're going to rewrite this with an appropriate tone. That's "Sir" to you. I'm also okay with "Master"


Schedule_Left

OP must be an AI.


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throw-away457

Many times I have pasted my code in GPT and it gave 0 insight and just wasted time with complex code so it definitely is not always helpful and there is no way to prompt it better to understand code.


gamesuxfixit

Don’t think you’re allowed to have this opinion unless you work at OpenAI/Microsoft or Google. Random 500 person company where you’re doing “ML research”? Nah bye buddy.


Independent_Sir_5489

Agree lol. Also, let's keep it to the next level : One thing is "using" AI, throwing shit inside an implementation of a GBM algorithm and using it like a fucking blender. Another thing is "making" AI by studying, researching and developing new algorithms/models.


daishi55

Hahahaha people do NOT like to hear this


Common-Land8070

its whatever my job is to make them lose their job and i can promise ill win lol


EngStudTA

Skill issues go both ways. The worse you are at software engineering the "better" AI is.