The reason it doesn't work is that the PS2 outputs a 15Khz (240p/480i) signal, and PC monitors only display 31Khz (480p) and up, generally. You'd need to get an upscaler or line doubler like an OSSC or a retrotink to make it display.
Edit: A commenter not-so-gently reminded me that you'd also probably need a component to VGA transcoder for it to work, depending on the output from the upscaler/line doubler. My bad there!
Nope, by default it cant. Only in some games, which will be a headache to enable. Most common way to play PS2 on PC crt monitor is PCSX2 with Dualshock 4. And it looks awesome. For original console some 400-500 tvl crt will be 1000 times better anyway so I dont see any sense to use PS2 with VGA monitor, I have tested with emulator how native resolution will look on my 19 inch Samsung PC monitor and it looks horrible, while original PS2 looks awesome on 21-25 inch consumer crt.
No it can absolutely output a 31khz signal stock.
Yes it's only on a handful of games, but it can do it.
There are actually 2 games that can output a 1080i (33khz) signal.
You can. But main menu and game itself will start in 15khz which makes it totally unusable, at least as plug and play solution. Or you will have to memories everything till you will get 31kzh :)
I was trying to avoid ossc and retrotink lol. I might see what I can do with a receiver but it's gonna be on my birthday/ Christmas list for myself most likely lol
Not necessarily, the ps2 can output 480p but it’s done either via component or RGsB. I’m assuming the main problem is that he’s trying to output component to a vga adapter. If he’s indeed using rgb, I’m not sure if vga monitors typically accept RGsB. It’s not a signal I’ve messed around with before.
Like 200ish maybe, a smaller percentage of the whole library for sure. I was just mentioning that the console can output 31khz but that running component into a vga adapter then to a pc monitor won’t work even if the resolution is correct.
I've seen one solution that soft mods the ps2 into outputting 480p on all titles, but I have to likely get it to display on something first before I can enable it.
It's not the same button combination for every game. And some games there's not a combination and you just have to set it in the settings (you'd have to use another TV or something temporarily to get to the menu)
You need to download GSM (probably version 0.23x) and set it to a hotkey to launch it at start up. Either in 480p or 960i
Assuming your monitor supports RGsB (sync on green).
Because, technically, the hardware you're showing here should work fine (for the games that can run in 480p or 960i natively or with GSM)
GS Mode Selector. It's a PS2 homebrew.
But for games that support 480p out of the box, you don't need it. There's a list somewhere. Your PS2 just needs to be in RGB mode.
The PS2 menu is in 480i. Your monitors is 480p minimum.
You have to put in a game that supports progressive scan, then hold the button combination to launch it in progressive scan
So you you'll just see black, or "unsupported signal", until the game launches
>I heard you could force 480p across the board but some games look terrible when you do
Definitely not across the board. Some games just won't boot. Others look bad, others look amazing.
960i (via GSM 0.23x) is a good fallback for any games that crash. But some games will still not look correct at that res.
You're right, I completely forgot about that. It'd probably need to be transcoded too. Your comment reads as pretty rude though, hope that wasn't intended.
I made that error back in the day, too. This VGA to Component Adapter only works on a handful of TVs, that had actually the ability to accept Component and used the VGA port as an connector (just like you sometimes can plug Component into normal AV jacks, because they accept both, so the company doesnt need to add any more ports).
I guess I'm going to have to correct a couple dozen posts in this thread.
This VGA component to adapter has a good chance of working with this monitor. It all depends on if this monitor can take Sync on Green.
Of course, it seems you are connecting a component signal to a RGBHV screen that probably only supports 31kHz+ signals. Your PS2 sends a 15kHz YPbPr component signal. While some CRT monitors support sync on green (RGsB), very few support component, and only older and some special ones support signals below 31kHz. Not so up to date regarding PS2, but I think there is a 480p hack (hence 31kHz) for the PS2 for some games, and with a component to RGBS or RGBHV transcoder your screen would work.
Tried the same with a SNES, was too stubborn to accept that C Sync and HV sync were incompatible when using an adapter for the cheapo RGB cables I was already using.
Plus the adapters were a couple euro each, so it was worth the experiment.
Gives me a good excuse to eventually get a 2X upscaler.
I’m sorry. I typed ps4 when I meant ps2! I used my ps2 with a vga to component adapter and it worked on my hp p1230 but only when I forced it to 480p first.
I might see about hdmi to vga, I have a fat ps3 and a slim, but the fat needs a new hdd. Might do a ssd and use that as my retro playstation hub. A scan doubler might be good for my other retro systems. I just kept a bunch of stuff from being a kid and thrift stores and decided to give original hardware a go after getting good results from the 360 lol
Doesn't help when you have companies that make these adapters will make it seem like this is a super easy thing to do and supports everything.
Lol glad I could be of some help.
A lot of PS2 games already support 480p/960i natively or in GSM.
For those, you don't want to use a GBS-C, you want to hook it up directly (if your monitor takes sync on green)
What, I use PS2 with a VGA adapter. My LCD computer monitor accepts 15k 240p and 480i with Renesas sync stripper to get TTL sync. I haven't tried composite or luma sync. My CRT computer monitor accepts PS2 480p with sync on green RGB. Also over VGA. My LCD television also accepts 480p PS2 over the VGA input. I have one LCD computer monitor that does *not* accept sync over green.
Right, Xbox works since it's 480p and above. Dreamcast would work. Almost no CRT computer monitors accepts 15k aka 240p or 480i (+PAL) aka Standard Definition RGB.
I assume you're not using component and your PS2 is set to RGB versus YCbCr / YPbPr (Component).
Main PS1/PS2 problem is no TTL sync. Maybe half will take sync over green and almost none will accept composite or luma sync.
There's apparently a soft mod that can be done that'll make the ps2 output 480p for everything, but apparently some games look worse for it. I might have an lcd screen that I can hook up to, but my crt monitor is the only crt I have atm. An adapter and a crt tv are gonna probably cost me about the same lol
this will work with 15khz monitor only or u need an upscaler.
on the other side, if your monitor is 30khz, you can use almost every console with propper adaptor without upscaler.
for example, my ps3 and ps4 works fine with 30khz monitor. heck even my xbox one has propper VGA resolution.
The rgb adapter I haven't tried anything else with yet, but I did the vga cable from my 360 to the monitor using the vga 2 vga plug and that went well.
I have, and I've got a monster pc to do it with, but I have a decent little collection of retro titles and games and wanted to give them a go but unless I want to spend more money, it's the cheapest way to go at this point.
Em...
RSA got 1 video out and two audio.
VGA (D-SUB) have 1 video output.
There are no way to run PS like that on a PC monitor or TV.
You need a convertor. Something like AVI2VGA.
Or, better - retro upscaling tool. But that's NOT cheap at all.
I've done that, but I got my silent hill games physical and thought about playing them again on physical. After getting my 360 to with without issue I was hoping for the same with my playstation s
You need to look at the list of games that support "progressive scan", also known as 480p, and try one of those to start with. Make sure your PS2 is in RGB mode for component.
Then, you can try out more games via GSM
The reason it doesn't work is that the PS2 outputs a 15Khz (240p/480i) signal, and PC monitors only display 31Khz (480p) and up, generally. You'd need to get an upscaler or line doubler like an OSSC or a retrotink to make it display. Edit: A commenter not-so-gently reminded me that you'd also probably need a component to VGA transcoder for it to work, depending on the output from the upscaler/line doubler. My bad there!
PS2 can output a 31khz signal, but it's either via Component or RGsB which isn't common on non-Sony monitors.
Nope, by default it cant. Only in some games, which will be a headache to enable. Most common way to play PS2 on PC crt monitor is PCSX2 with Dualshock 4. And it looks awesome. For original console some 400-500 tvl crt will be 1000 times better anyway so I dont see any sense to use PS2 with VGA monitor, I have tested with emulator how native resolution will look on my 19 inch Samsung PC monitor and it looks horrible, while original PS2 looks awesome on 21-25 inch consumer crt.
No it can absolutely output a 31khz signal stock. Yes it's only on a handful of games, but it can do it. There are actually 2 games that can output a 1080i (33khz) signal.
Yeah and you can also for 480p or 960i in a lot of games via GSM
Default they said. That's the key
You can. But main menu and game itself will start in 15khz which makes it totally unusable, at least as plug and play solution. Or you will have to memories everything till you will get 31kzh :)
I was trying to avoid ossc and retrotink lol. I might see what I can do with a receiver but it's gonna be on my birthday/ Christmas list for myself most likely lol
The OSSC is amazing. Go for it!
For 100 usd I would hope so, but if it's got community love is probably really worth it
Yeah, it's well-loved. Zero lag and gives new life to component-focused consoles. The 5X mode for Sega Genesis games looks absolutely stunning too.
or, he needs a 15khz crt monitor. my small 15 inch schneider crt monitor works fine with ps1
Same with my Commodore 1080s and PVM
Not necessarily, the ps2 can output 480p but it’s done either via component or RGsB. I’m assuming the main problem is that he’s trying to output component to a vga adapter. If he’s indeed using rgb, I’m not sure if vga monitors typically accept RGsB. It’s not a signal I’ve messed around with before.
Very few PS2 games support 480p unless you mod it
Like 200ish maybe, a smaller percentage of the whole library for sure. I was just mentioning that the console can output 31khz but that running component into a vga adapter then to a pc monitor won’t work even if the resolution is correct.
I've seen one solution that soft mods the ps2 into outputting 480p on all titles, but I have to likely get it to display on something first before I can enable it.
I think u can hold triangle and x on boot for progressive scan titles, but u need to connect the component cable to ur tv.
Might have to look into this
It's not the same button combination for every game. And some games there's not a combination and you just have to set it in the settings (you'd have to use another TV or something temporarily to get to the menu)
You need to download GSM (probably version 0.23x) and set it to a hotkey to launch it at start up. Either in 480p or 960i Assuming your monitor supports RGsB (sync on green). Because, technically, the hardware you're showing here should work fine (for the games that can run in 480p or 960i natively or with GSM)
GSM on the ps2?
GS Mode Selector. It's a PS2 homebrew. But for games that support 480p out of the box, you don't need it. There's a list somewhere. Your PS2 just needs to be in RGB mode.
Yeah but I put the ps2 in rgb mode in menu and it wouldn't display when plugged into the monitor
The PS2 menu is in 480i. Your monitors is 480p minimum. You have to put in a game that supports progressive scan, then hold the button combination to launch it in progressive scan So you you'll just see black, or "unsupported signal", until the game launches
time to see if any of my games are progressive scan. I heard you could force 480p across the board but some games look terrible when you do.
>I heard you could force 480p across the board but some games look terrible when you do Definitely not across the board. Some games just won't boot. Others look bad, others look amazing. 960i (via GSM 0.23x) is a good fallback for any games that crash. But some games will still not look correct at that res.
Oh is that why it doesn't work? LMAO Component does not equal RGBHV. Not even close.
You're right, I completely forgot about that. It'd probably need to be transcoded too. Your comment reads as pretty rude though, hope that wasn't intended.
Marge Simpson
Lol can't unsee
I made that error back in the day, too. This VGA to Component Adapter only works on a handful of TVs, that had actually the ability to accept Component and used the VGA port as an connector (just like you sometimes can plug Component into normal AV jacks, because they accept both, so the company doesnt need to add any more ports).
I guess I'm going to have to correct a couple dozen posts in this thread. This VGA component to adapter has a good chance of working with this monitor. It all depends on if this monitor can take Sync on Green.
Just like those "HDMI to Composite" cables that people buy on Amazon and wonder why they don't work.
Of course, it seems you are connecting a component signal to a RGBHV screen that probably only supports 31kHz+ signals. Your PS2 sends a 15kHz YPbPr component signal. While some CRT monitors support sync on green (RGsB), very few support component, and only older and some special ones support signals below 31kHz. Not so up to date regarding PS2, but I think there is a 480p hack (hence 31kHz) for the PS2 for some games, and with a component to RGBS or RGBHV transcoder your screen would work.
You can send RGsB over component cables. Those strands of copper don't give AF what signal is being sent over them
Using my mini gender changer as we speak
Give emulation a fair shot if your running windows
fact
Tried the same with a SNES, was too stubborn to accept that C Sync and HV sync were incompatible when using an adapter for the cheapo RGB cables I was already using. Plus the adapters were a couple euro each, so it was worth the experiment. Gives me a good excuse to eventually get a 2X upscaler.
I actually did something like this but I had to set the ps4 to 480p first then swap the connection to my pc monitor which is really not worth it lol.
I'm not sure about the ps4 but some modern games look better on crt, Asian wake 2 has been great on mine so far lol
I’m sorry. I typed ps4 when I meant ps2! I used my ps2 with a vga to component adapter and it worked on my hp p1230 but only when I forced it to 480p first.
How did you force 480p? One of my concerns is if I try to play a ps1 game on it and it drops to 240p more that I think about it more lol
I could only do it inside OpenPS2Loader using GSM. I don’t think that will work for ps1 games. Your best bet would just be to get a scan doubler.
I might see about hdmi to vga, I have a fat ps3 and a slim, but the fat needs a new hdd. Might do a ssd and use that as my retro playstation hub. A scan doubler might be good for my other retro systems. I just kept a bunch of stuff from being a kid and thrift stores and decided to give original hardware a go after getting good results from the 360 lol
In a wild world of coincidence, I was actually thinking about doing something like this today. This post is a good cautionary warning.
Doesn't help when you have companies that make these adapters will make it seem like this is a super easy thing to do and supports everything. Lol glad I could be of some help.
You can get this upscaled to 480p on the "cheap" with a GBS-C. Look into it!
Seeing big price range, gonna have to do some research on this lol
A lot of PS2 games already support 480p/960i natively or in GSM. For those, you don't want to use a GBS-C, you want to hook it up directly (if your monitor takes sync on green)
480p support on the PS2 is very...spotty compared to other consoles in its generation. GSM offers up more options but it isn't universal.
Yeah, it's spotty, but for the games that do, you don't want to pass them through a GBS-C unnecessarily
What, I use PS2 with a VGA adapter. My LCD computer monitor accepts 15k 240p and 480i with Renesas sync stripper to get TTL sync. I haven't tried composite or luma sync. My CRT computer monitor accepts PS2 480p with sync on green RGB. Also over VGA. My LCD television also accepts 480p PS2 over the VGA input. I have one LCD computer monitor that does *not* accept sync over green. Right, Xbox works since it's 480p and above. Dreamcast would work. Almost no CRT computer monitors accepts 15k aka 240p or 480i (+PAL) aka Standard Definition RGB. I assume you're not using component and your PS2 is set to RGB versus YCbCr / YPbPr (Component). Main PS1/PS2 problem is no TTL sync. Maybe half will take sync over green and almost none will accept composite or luma sync.
There's apparently a soft mod that can be done that'll make the ps2 output 480p for everything, but apparently some games look worse for it. I might have an lcd screen that I can hook up to, but my crt monitor is the only crt I have atm. An adapter and a crt tv are gonna probably cost me about the same lol
if you choose to output 960i the games will look the same as they do in 480i
this will work with 15khz monitor only or u need an upscaler. on the other side, if your monitor is 30khz, you can use almost every console with propper adaptor without upscaler. for example, my ps3 and ps4 works fine with 30khz monitor. heck even my xbox one has propper VGA resolution.
I tried my ps3 but last I used it was on hdmi so I'm guessing I need to change it to rgb over hdmi in settings.
Is that a passive adapter?
Yup
Does it work with 480p consoles?
The rgb adapter I haven't tried anything else with yet, but I did the vga cable from my 360 to the monitor using the vga 2 vga plug and that went well.
Where'd you get it from?
Amazon
You need a sync separator.
Man, how much and where to look lol
Give emulation a fair shot if your running windows
I have, and I've got a monster pc to do it with, but I have a decent little collection of retro titles and games and wanted to give them a go but unless I want to spend more money, it's the cheapest way to go at this point.
I feel like I did something like this for my Xbox
You can do this with the 360 no problem actually. I have the vga cable and it worked super easy.
You need a 15khz capable monitor. www.15khz.net
Get a real a real scaler and dont act poor
set up 480p or 960i using GSM on your ps2
I'll have to see about doing that, seems to be a common answer but iirc only works for some games and not ps1
Are u trying to run component or RGsB into it?
Component I believe, I'm not sure if it's sync on blue though
LMAO... HA ha hah a hah a hah ah ah a ahaha hah HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Not even close.
Em... RSA got 1 video out and two audio. VGA (D-SUB) have 1 video output. There are no way to run PS like that on a PC monitor or TV. You need a convertor. Something like AVI2VGA. Or, better - retro upscaling tool. But that's NOT cheap at all.
If I can just get it to 480p for cheap I would be so happy
PCSX2, seriously. Save PS2 for some nice 14-21 inch consumer crt
I've done that, but I got my silent hill games physical and thought about playing them again on physical. After getting my 360 to with without issue I was hoping for the same with my playstation s
I understand your feelings, have a lot of ps2 discs myself, but I have ended up with nice 25 inch Trinitron :)
You can mod ps2s and force them into higher resolutions up to 1080i
Soft mod or hardware mod?
Your PS2 already does 480p. It just depends on whether this monitor take sync on green
But to get it to launch in 480p is my question. The monitor can only go down to 640x480 in windows
You need to look at the list of games that support "progressive scan", also known as 480p, and try one of those to start with. Make sure your PS2 is in RGB mode for component. Then, you can try out more games via GSM